pricing a ber cert

muffler

fogibear wrote: »

oh yea most importantly i got a rating of a b3 ..... better than my leaving cert

Some would say that applies to a lot of the assessors

sydthebeat

fogibear wrote: »

oh yea most importantly i got a rating of a b3 ..... better than my leaving cert

thats a good rating..

its a mid terrace, so im guess it newly built, gas boiler, no chimneys, ope front gas fire, room stats.....

sinnerboy

muffler wrote: »

Some would say that applies to a lot of the assessors

Hey ! I resemble taht rimark

Hawk Wing

I do them for 75 all in, just landed 150 units, there are too many of them around Limerick, its dog eat dog at this stage

topcatcbr

Hawk Wing wrote: »

I do them for 75 all in, just landed 150 units, there are too many of them around Limerick, its dog eat dog at this stage

How can you afford to do this. €75 less €30.25 SEI fee leaves you at €44.75 per cert. and assuming it takes you between 2 and 4 hrs per cert travel to and from job. Pay for your insurance (assuming you have some), net connection, phone etc .

Im delighted you posted this becausi i was looking forward to hearing how someone charging this was making money.

Can you let me know. Thanks.:)

Hawk Wing

topcatcbr wrote: »

How can you afford to do this. €75 less €30.25 SEI fee leaves you at €44.75 per cert. and assuming it takes you between 2 and 4 hrs per cert travel to and from job. Pay for your insurance (assuming you have some), net connection, phone etc .

Im delighted you posted this becausi i was looking forward to hearing how someone charging this was making money.

Can you let me know. Thanks.:)

Three developments, all the same units basically, a weeks work at most, whayey! I'd charge 100 normally of course, developer wants to get them all out of the way as he is going renting them out (hopefully for him)

clint_eastman

i think €75 per unit is ok in this case as its a large development, but there's no way in hell that you could charge that for 1 off houses and expect to make money.... open to correction of course!

Hawk Wing

clint_eastman wrote: »

i think €75 per unit is ok in this case as its a large development, but there's no way in hell that you could charge that for 1 off houses and expect to make money.... open to correction of course!

This whole thing is a joke in fairness! I only work in a chipper and passed the chevron course for new build and existing! (i done cad in college though) in a week! any clown could manage it! make rain while it pours! i can't see it lasting for long though..i can only see 2-3 months in it at best..

sydthebeat

Hawk Wing wrote: »

This whole thing is a joke in fairness! I only work in a chipper and passed the chevron course for new build and existing! (i done cad in college though) in a week! any clown could manage it! make rain while it pours! i can't see it lasting for long though..i can only see 2-3 months in it at best..

.."yer 'avin a laugh...."

Hawk Wing

sydthebeat wrote: »

.."yer 'avin a laugh...."

no, working for PH McCarthy for a few years years, now doing this and a few other things, it is not exactly brain surgery is it? any simpleton with a cert as a architectural technician or something could swing it

Quazzie

Hawk Wing wrote: »

no, working for PH McCarthy for a few years years, now doing this and a few other things, it is not exactly brain surgery is it? any simpleton with a cert as a architectural technician or something could swing it

TROLL!!!

muffler

I've seen enough. Hawk Wing has just been muffled.

ben bedlam

Aparently posters here who encourage people to shop around for the cheapest, best value BER will be reprimanded or banned for some reason.

Quazzie

ben bedlam wrote: »

Aparently posters here who encourage people to shop around for the cheapest, best value BER will be reprimanded or banned for some reason.

I think it was more about the way he represented his views in a way that would seem to be enticing a hostile response. This is called trolling and is against most charters on boards and indeed most other online forums.

EDIT: The feedback forum is the proper place for such discussions.

muffler

ben bedlam wrote: »

Aparently posters here who encourage people to shop around for the cheapest, best value BER will be reprimanded or banned for some reason.

If you have a complaint you can either PM one of the mods or post a thread in either the feedback or help desk forums but do not question any moderator or his decisions on thread.

jimmysull

Does anyone know if the expiry date of the qualification is an important factor in choosing a BER assessor?
SEI and the BEr directory both state the expiry date.
Should I only choose one with loads of time left as they have recently been certified? or is it just that they need to "renew" (as opposed to requalify) every year?

sinnerboy

jimmysull wrote: »

Does anyone know if the expiry date of the qualification is an important factor in choosing a BER assessor?
SEI and the BEr directory both state the expiry date.
Should I only choose one with loads of time left as they have recently been certified? or is it just that they need to "renew" (as opposed to requalify) every year?

Assessors have to pay an annual fee to stay on the register . The expiry date only tells you when they have to pay their next fee to SEI to remain on the register. That's all

If you see an expiry date of Jan 2010 - that could be Assessors 2nd year on the register it could mean he is brand new to BER - you can't tell

The Assessors "qualification" does not expire

No6

sinnerboy wrote: »

The Assessors "qualification" does not expire

Alltough as the SEI national Exam for assessors hasn't been rolled out are any of us truly qualified and what happens to those who fail the exam, will they be able to go back to hairdressing or whatever !!!

Green_Man

Like choosing any service always check around for price and expertise, for the BER assessor if they have expired on SEI register they will not be able to get a BER certificate for you property.
Personally I think it is more important for the advisory report to be accurate and to understand the best changes you should make to gain on energy efficiency and cost of changes.

dunie001

what happens to those who fail the exam, will they be able to go back to hairdressing or whatever !!!

Assessors can keep repeating the exam until they pass...mind you though if anyone could fail that exam the first time then maybe they shouldn't have become assessors in the first place!

A multiple choice and open book exam is probably what the exam will be...so how could anyone fail that!

d'Oracle

By having absolutly no understanding of how buildings work.

dunie001

sad but unfortunately true...

CATWOMEN

Why is it that it only costs 75 pounds to have this assessment done in England.
I am selling my house and have to get it done.
its a scam for to get house owners cough up more money.
the cost of the assessor registering the paper work is only 25euro.
and i bet if i offered a bit of extra cash to an assessor the better the assessment.
just another government scam.

topcatcbr

CATWOMEN wrote: »

Why is it that it only costs 75 pounds to have this assessment done in England.
I am selling my house and have to get it done.
its a scam for to get house owners cough up more money.
the cost of the assessor registering the paper work is only 25euro.
and i bet if i offered a bit of extra cash to an assessor the better the assessment.
just another government scam.

I'm glad you got that of your chest.

If you really want to know why ask your self would you after doing 4 years in collage to get a degree then spend a min of €6000 do 4 hrs work for €75 - 25 (+ VAT).

Or you could if you like go through the previous posts which explain why in detail it costs as much as it does.

Or you could just hold on to your misguided view and remain happy in the knowledge you are going to be ripped off.

sydthebeat

CATWOMEN wrote: »

Why is it that it only costs 75 pounds to have this assessment done in England.
I am selling my house and have to get it done.
its a scam for to get house owners cough up more money.
the cost of the assessor registering the paper work is only 25euro.
and i bet if i offered a bit of extra cash to an assessor the better the assessment.
just another government scam.

If you want to know why it cost less in the UK... well, firstly, find out what the assessment consists of in the UK!!!!

it consists of obtaining significantly less on site information, thus both on site and office time is considerably less...

If you are selling your house, great, you need it to sell it...

but if you have to then go and buy a house, dont you want to know what the energy rating is... or do you want a 'cheap as chips' rating....

Supertech

Why is it that it only costs 75 pounds to have this assessment done in England.
I am selling my house and have to get it done.
its a scam for to get house owners cough up more money.
the cost of the assessor registering the paper work is only 25euro.
and i bet if i offered a bit of extra cash to an assessor the better the assessment.
just another government scam.

Just goes to show another failing of the system at the moment - people are not interested in the findings of the cert, just want a bit of paper to allow them to sell their houses. I think the whole thing is going to need a revamp before too long.

CATWOMEN

Why is it not the same cert in England.
this was a directive from the eu.
both England and Ireland are in the eu.
I know a guy good friend of mine,
he payed 6000 euro to do assessors course.
took him six weeks to complete.
to be come an assessor .
How many of you out there paid 6000 euro
for this course. seems to me there's. Theirs a lot of you out there.
last week in my local paper there was a guy who will do it for free.
until you sell your house or change tenants.

sinnerboy

Not sure where you are going with this

You correctly point out that BER results from an EU directive - so it is not " a govt. scam" as you allege in your opening post .

Syd has correctly pointed out that , in implementation of the EU directive - the UK and Ireland differ . That's known as "subsidiarity" i.e. EU-speak meaning states are allowed latitude in implementation .

You have both your 1. good friend and 2. the local paper guy to ask for a quote . Not to mention , as you have stated yourself , there are plenty of assessors to choose from . So your problem is ...... what ?

topcatcbr

You initially whined about the cost here vs the £75 in uk now you inform us you can get it done for free. I think Free is substantially less than £75 so maybee its the uk where the "scam" is.

Troll away.

CATWOMEN

My problem is this
1. Government has taken money 6000 euro to train a glut of assesors,
that now have no work.
2 Prices for this cert can cost anything from 250euro
to 750 euro.
3 In my profession if i charged from 250 to one customer to do a job
and 750 to another for the same work to another.
i would be out of buissness in a week.
4.To anyone getting a ber shop around.
Or move to england.