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BLOCK CAPITALS on credit cards etc

  • 26-01-2009 06:34PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭


    Was talking to someone over the weekend and they were going on about the reason that there are capitals on your credit card, drivers license, passport etc is because the government/NWO owns you. I couldn't much sense out of them, other than that the government owns you cos they put capitals on your passport. Sounds all a bit weird. I looked it up on Google and there a few sites thats kinda explain it.

    Can anyone here explain it in a sensible way and how it would actually be implemented. Thats if you've heard it.

    Edit: I would have said it was to make them easier to read by human & machine. So you dont mix up an I and l


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    I don't necessarily stand by any of this, but apparently it has got to do with merchant law.

    Here is a video with scary music: http://www.loveforlife.com.au/node/5859

    Here is the actual UCC: http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/ucc.table.html

    And this puts it into a bit more perspective: http://freedom-school.com/buck-act.pdf


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    its to do with the Soverign Being as defined by Admiralty Law

    Coat, Mahatma
    Mahatma Coat

    those are my name as legaly defined as a Person

    mahatma coat or MAHATMA COAT or COAT, MAHATMA are not my name as a soverign being they are corporate entities created as representatives of you for legal purposes, I have been lookin into this one for a while but the more you research the murkier it gets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭dSTAR


    MC ~ here is a video by Australian Thomas Anderson which explains in easy to understand terms the concept of the 'Strawman'. Not sure if you have come across it before but it is definitely worth listening to.

    The Strawman Illusion - The Matrix Revealed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,884 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    And this puts it into a bit more perspective: http://freedom-school.com/buck-act.pdf

    The "Buck Act" is funnier than the "Fake moon landings thead

    More info on the "Buck" act


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Thanks for that info. Still cant believe that anyone could actually think that they are owned because their name is in caps. Or that their name is an asset on the stock exchange. Makes as much sense now as it did over the weekend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭geraardo


    Im gonna go with its easier to read:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    Was talking to someone over the weekend and they were going on about the reason that there are capitals on your credit card, drivers license, passport etc is because the government/NWO owns you. I couldn't much sense out of them, other than that the government owns you cos they put capitals on your passport. Sounds all a bit weird. I looked it up on Google and there a few sites thats kinda explain it.

    Can anyone here explain it in a sensible way and how it would actually be implemented. Thats if you've heard it.

    Edit: I would have said it was to make them easier to read by human & machine. So you dont mix up an I and l

    Didnt think you would believe that:eek:

    But yes, its true, everything is coded. All computerised.

    Honestly its been in the workings for years.
    Next is DNA monitoring and finger printing every office block you go into. So they will track you down instantly. When you type your credit card details ove the net, they have you down to a a small passport sized photo on the data base and your every pee sized info on what you buy and spend is there:D

    Welcome to the assembly line.

    Good thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭miss_shadow


    Yeah,i remember when i was 13,9 years ago, me and dad were going through customs in an airport and they already had my dads photo and every single detail of his on their computer!he didn't have a passport either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    mysterious wrote: »
    Didnt think you would believe that:eek:

    But yes, its true, everything is coded. All computerised.

    Honestly its been in the workings for years.
    Next is DNA monitoring and finger printing every office block you go into. So they will track you down instantly. When you type your credit card details ove the net, they have you down to a a small passport sized photo on the data base and your every pee sized info on what you buy and spend is there:D

    Welcome to the assembly line.

    Good thread.

    Your reply has nothing to do with what I asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    Yeah,i remember when i was 13,9 years ago, me and dad were going through customs in an airport and they already had my dads photo and every single detail of his on their computer!he didn't have a passport either.

    Back in 84, My mam going through the gates when in America, was told that everything about her was on file and that the CIA have EVERYTHING in documents of your life on it too. Your lass poop to your last dinner almost


    That was 84..... People are only beginning to realise this, only for the war on terror propaganda ;)

    They questioned her cus of her second name. Very prominent name too in America. CIA hate that second name;). So they decided to question her for two hours. When they gathered it was getting nowhere, they just let her go.


    Also people today are only realising the techology they had back then, credit cards, passports, ID cards, everything is all numbered, and each person has a specific number on them.

    Your life is numbered, practically.
    Alot of people are stopped for very specific reasons, and it's nothing to do with terrrorism. The terrorism was only used to tighten the security even more. Which suits the nature of the CIA work.

    The credit card numbering IMO, is also very significant. I'm sure if i add all the numbers and block capital letters to one number. This would be coded. I'm a number fanatic. It helps me dicern things more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    Your reply has nothing to do with what I asked.

    I know, but I just responded. Is that ok????:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    mysterious wrote: »
    I know, but I just responded. Is that ok????:rolleyes:

    Why did you quote me then, as if it was reply to the questions I asked? Don't need another thread going off in a tangent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    I apologise sincerely thecommander. If it had cause so much trouble even.

    I was interested in this topic, I don't know much of it, so I gave my thoughts I would like to know more about it, thats why I asked is not ok??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    I walked into a bank in Toronto in June 06 and opened and account, they gave me my card straight away didnt have any name on it just a 16 digit card number.

    What does that mean?

    A few months later I used said card to book a flight from San Francisco to New York and when I was going through to the departures area I was stopped and all my belongings were searched and swabed for trace residue.

    I cant believe I never made the connection, they were cataloging my details cause my name wasnt on my card. Its so obvious, random spot check my backside. They probably know what songs were on my Ipod as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    mysterious wrote: »
    the CIA have EVERYTHING in documents of your life on it too. Your lass poop to your last dinner almost
    ...
    They questioned her cus of her second name. Very prominent name too in America. CIA hate that second name;). So they decided to question her for two hours. When they gathered it was getting nowhere, they just let her go.
    So, they had detailed documents on her life, but felt the need to question her for two hours until they figured they were getting nowhere???

    Where, exactly, were they trying to get, if htey knew everything there was to know?
    The credit card numbering IMO, is also very significant.
    How Credit Card numbers are assigned is no secret. Its a fairly well-documented process. There is nothing significant about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Yeah,i remember when i was 13,9 years ago, me and dad were going through customs in an airport and they already had my dads photo and every single detail of his on their computer!he didn't have a passport either.


    Where were you flying from? What details did they have? Was it actually customs or the check-in? Why was your father going through customs without a passport?

    Your post is very short on details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    amcalester wrote: »
    A few months later I used said card to book a flight from San Francisco to New York and when I was going through to the departures area I was stopped and all my belongings were searched and swabed for trace residue.

    I have a bank card, with my name on it, and I've been stopped and searched. What's your point? Random checks happen at airport, alot of non random ones happen too, but for you to be able to match up your search with you bank card is just playing a guessing game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Sorry I was being sarcastic, of course random searches happen.


    I was just using that as an example of how some people take 2 unrelated occurences and try and link the 2 into some sort of conspiracy when there is no real basis for it.

    I hope I explained myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    amcalester wrote: »
    Sorry I was being sarcastic, of course random searches happen.


    I was just using that as an example of how some people take 2 unrelated occurences and try and link the 2 into some sort of conspiracy when there is no real basis for it.

    I hope I explained myself.

    Get ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    bonkey wrote: »
    So, they had detailed documents on her life, but felt the need to question her for two hours until they figured they were getting nowhere???

    Where, exactly, were they trying to get, if htey knew everything there was to know?

    CIA, like to fool around. ask people stuff,

    It doesn't have to appear the slightest bit logical or sane to them. They ask pretty retarded question.

    In her opinion it was just like that, "like they were getting nowhere and left her off" In their cases they wanted specific info.

    You know people from all walks get stopped and let another pass by.

    Again for specific reasons bonkey.
    How Credit Card numbers are assigned is no secret. Its a fairly well-documented process. There is nothing significant about it.

    I agree I didn't say it was a big secret.
    The government are open about this whole big brother agenda now. They can invade your privacy within reach at this rate.

    Like for example the government send out stupid mails like asking how much saving's is in your bank. And the funny thing is they already know, but they still send out the letter stating bla bla, we need all documents, savings account info, how much you earn per week, etc etc.

    My only point as I've said to thecommander,they all ready know everything

    That's all my point was.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    mysterious wrote: »
    CIA, like to fool around. ask people stuff,

    It doesn't have to appear the slightest bit logical or sane to them. They ask pretty retarded question.

    Must have been a quiet day at Langley if they had nothing better to do.

    It doesnt have to appear logical to who? The CIA or the person being questioned?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    amcalester wrote: »
    Must have been a quiet day at Langley if they had nothing better to do.

    It doesnt have to appear logical to who? The CIA or the person being questioned?

    It doesn't have to appear logic to the client. Don't think the CIA are bothered about what the client is thinking about their work.

    The CIA have their agenda. And that could be anythinnnnnnnnnnnnnng.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    You're right the CIA objective could be anything, you dont know what it is (neither do I) and anything you say would be just a guess.

    I just find it hard to believe that CIA operatives would be stopping your mother and questioning her for 2 hours because they didnt like her second name.

    Also who told her the CIA have all her details?

    And if they already had all her details then they would have known beforehand that it was going to go nowhere so why did it take 2 hours to come this already known conclusion.

    I can't help but think that because you want to believe in some sort of world wide conspiracy/coverup that you are willing to overlook the obvious and twist any details/facts to suit your own preconcieved ideas.

    When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭mysterious


    amcalester wrote: »
    You're right the CIA objective could be anything, you dont know what it is (neither do I) and anything you say would be just a guess.

    I just find it hard to believe that CIA operatives would be stopping your mother and questioning her for 2 hours because they didnt like her second name.

    Also who told her the CIA have all her details?
    The staff did themselves.

    The Staff actually just said if for random choice maybe. But she was pulled in left in an office for a period of time, then came along questionings. it was like robot yes no answers. The immigration was brought, up work, lving you name it was asked. She was pregnant with me.

    After all this, they bacially told her the CIA have everything on file, and everyrhing that goes through this Airport is monitored by us..

    Her second name is only a guess. The CIA dont like this name:D I'm just throwing that out there But there could be a 100 possiblities. I could tell you something else about this name, and who it's related too, but that's private. But im stressing my point the CIA can stop you if they damn like now. Another reason they questioned her, was she was a nurse and what her job was. She was a nursery nurse, for playschool kids. They kept repeatedly questionned her about this, and they were saying no your a nurse etc. She said it was the most retarded thing she had to go through. She wasnt allowed to explain things. it was yes no answers all the time.

    And if they already had all her details then they would have known beforehand that it was going to go nowhere so why did it take 2 hours to come this already known conclusion.

    Its the CIA. they do all sorts of stupid stuff. it's the same with passports, once you arrive at airport they all have you down on the database in the airport you arrive in. This is really basic stuff man.
    I can't help but think that because you want to believe in some sort of world wide conspiracy/coverup that you are willing to overlook the obvious and twist any details/facts to suit your own preconcieved ideas.

    When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras

    Well you make sound like that yourself. I'm just saying that thousands of peopl eget stopped all the time, for no apparent reason. This was back in 84. My parents were recently in america, and a friend of theirs who is an old woman who was Irish was stopped going through the gates, shes not a terrorist or anything, but my parents went through, and no it wasnt baggage or anything. She got stopped and that was that, but they eventually let her through. Why they stopped he. God only knows. Its no conspiracy.

    I'm just stating the point, that these things happen, and there is nothing in conpiracy about it. They can track you and monitor all they want now.

    I'm not twisting anything ffs, will you lighten up man. Believe what you want. I'm stating a fact that happened to my mother when travelling to America. I don't really care if you think I'm twisting it. I don't see any benifet in twisting this story. I know many people got stopped like this in this fashion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    mysterious wrote: »

    They questioned her cus of her second name. Very prominent name too in America. CIA hate that second name;). So they decided to question her for two hours. When they gathered it was getting nowhere, they just let her go.
    mysterious wrote: »
    Her second name is only a guess. The CIA dont like this name:D I'm just throwing that out there But there could be a 100 possiblities.

    Which is it? Did they question her because of her 2nd name or was it was of the other 99 possibilities?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    A lot of it is Profile Bias too, Customs guy looks at name on list or looks at people shuffling through the que and makes snap decisions about who to harass, I generally didnt get harassed till I grew a beard and ponytail,

    we used to abuse this fact when Shmugglinn sctufff back from Shumweere.

    one of the lads would go ahead lookin all suspect and 99 out of 100 times he would be pulled in for a 'Random' Search, I would trot on lookin 'respectable' and be waved through,

    not that I condone Smugglin or anything like that, but I'm just givin it as an example


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭billy the squid


    amcalester wrote: »
    I walked into a bank in Toronto in June 06 and opened and account, they gave me my card straight away didnt have any name on it just a 16 digit card number.

    What does that mean?

    A few months later I used said card to book a flight from San Francisco to New York and when I was going through to the departures area I was stopped and all my belongings were searched and swabed for trace residue.

    I cant believe I never made the connection, they were cataloging my details cause my name wasnt on my card. Its so obvious, random spot check my backside. They probably know what songs were on my Ipod as well.

    Actually the Canadians are bringing in a law so they can check your ipod.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    A lot of it is Profile Bias too, Customs guy looks at name on list or looks at people shuffling through the que and makes snap decisions about who to harass, I generally didnt get harassed till I grew a beard and ponytail,

    A perspective which would support the notion that they aren't actually that well informed about who the people in front of them are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,388 ✭✭✭Kernel


    bonkey wrote: »
    A perspective which would support the notion that they aren't actually that well informed about who the people in front of them are.

    Not necessarily Bonkey. It proves that smugglers will still get through, but I doubt the powers that be are all that worried about MC's hemp slippers. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 350 ✭✭free-man


    http://blip.tv/file/1758967

    Apparantly if you draw a box around your signature on any document its not legally binding :) Called the 4 corners rule..

    Interesting stuff although I've not got time to be an expert on law or getting out of things only to have a laywer smack down on you..


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