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Why do we have to pay for Parking?

  • 25-01-2009 09:23PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 510 ✭✭✭


    Well....why are the public charged for parking their car on the side of a road? I can't see any logical explanation for it (well other than tax for the government to waster, but as I said 'logical' reasons)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,172 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    steo87 wrote: »
    Well....why are the public charged for parking their car on the side of a road? I can't see any logical explanation for it (well other than tax for the government to waster, but as I said 'logical' reasons)?

    Satellite towns for example have people coming into the town, parking their cars and travelling to work in somebody elses car clogging up the town.

    I dont agree with Clare county council charging people to park in a car park since 2 years ago even though the same car park has been there 30 years. It makes no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    steo87 wrote: »
    Well....why are the public charged for parking their car on the side of a road? I can't see any logical explanation for it (well other than tax for the government to waster, but as I said 'logical' reasons)?

    Have you seen how much traffic is around?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭FlutterinBantam


    To try to ensure fair disribution of the most wanted parking spaces and to prevent **** parking in the on place all day thus denying others the chance to park for 10-15 mins.

    Simple really:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Because people will pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    Because the man said so.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    davyjose wrote: »
    Because they have people by the short and curlies.
    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    Hagar wrote: »
    FYP

    Final year project?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    m83 wrote: »
    Fixed your post
    FYP.

    See what I did there? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Hagar wrote: »
    I'm a traffic warden

    FYP*

    *This is fun

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Need the money to carry out roadworks on the same spot every year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,587 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Hagar wrote: »
    FYP
    m83 wrote: »
    Final year project?
    Hagar wrote: »
    FYP.

    See what I did there? :pac:
    davyjose wrote: »
    FYP*

    This is fun

    :pac:

    :rolleyes: WTF!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    :rolleyes: FYP!!
    FYP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    I don't. I just change my car every 3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭CamperMan


    I have never paid for parking.... I park the car where it costs you nothing then walk the rest of the way :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Stealth Tax, many more on the way.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,484 ✭✭✭JIZZLORD


    stealth tax eh?
    so a car park in the centre of a town isn't using valuable land that could be easily sold off and developed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    JIZZLORD wrote: »
    stealth tax eh?
    so a car park in the centre of a town isn't using valuable land that could be easily sold off and developed?

    The side of the road is valuable land that could be easily sold off and developed? Single-lane bowling alleys all the way down main street ftw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭PurpleBerry


    realcam wrote: »
    Single-lane bowling alleys all the way down main street ftw.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,290 ✭✭✭dresden8


    The answer to this and so many other questions is

    They really, really, really want to get their hands on your money.

    It's usually the answer to "Why are they doing something so nonsensical"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    JIZZLORD wrote: »
    stealth tax eh?
    so a car park in the centre of a town isn't using valuable land that could be easily sold off and developed?
    For a start who owns it? The council is the people, the state is the people, of themselves these bodies own nothing, they merely hold it in trust for the people they are systematically fleecing. Anyway point to the queue of developers with bulging pockets of cash willing to build anything nowadays. They don't exist, do they?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭asdasd


    The council is the people, the state is the people, of themselves these bodies own nothing, they merely hold it in trust for the people they are systematically fleecing.

    except some people use it more than others. You are paying for a road surface which has to be maintained, so better you than people who dont use it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭starn


    CamperMan wrote: »
    I have never paid for parking.... I park the car where it costs you nothing then walk the rest of the way :D

    Me to.

    I think shopping centers have some check charging for parking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    It makes perfect sense tbh.

    Town Council's need a certain ammount of money, for obvious reasons. Sewage works, road maintanance, putting those pretty little flower baskets up, stuff like that. And probably a lot more.

    So charging people for parking's obviously a good way to get it.
    And if parking wasn't charged, people would, as has been mentioned, just leave their cars in places all day thus making it more difficult to get parking for short periods of time/ just in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    davyjose wrote: »
    FYP*

    *This is fun

    :pac:

    I've been FYPping all day. now my stones are starting to hurt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 669 ✭✭✭Photi


    CamperMan wrote: »
    I have never paid for parking.... I park the car where it costs you nothing then walk the rest of the way :D

    Your driveway?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,382 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    1. Carparks cost money. Tarmacking, painting, maintenance, dealing with run-off, water pollution, etc. These costs need to be covered. No such thing as a free lunch.

    2. Free carparking would mean everybody and their dog jumping in the car, rather than using public transport/cycling/walking. Do you really think we need more incentives to drive in this country?

    3. Free carparking would mean everyone parking for as long as they wanted with little turnover. This would be particularly bad for local businesses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,786 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    asdasd wrote: »
    except some people use it more than others. You are paying for a road surface which has to be maintained, so better you than people who dont use it..
    Hair splitting, some of the people driving have no children yet their taxes support schools and teachers salaries. The answer to councils economic woes lies not in screwing over people for cents here and there but better management of resources. They are without exception scandalously inept and self-serving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,263 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    It's so that the cretins voted on to the local councils by other cretins can do their bit to bankrupt all of the shops in a town-centre, by charging an arm and a leg to park there and keeping the customers away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    it doesn't cost that much to run a car park - nobody really complains about their parking spot so it's a great business to be in. you can allocate a plot of wasteland for parking like they do in some towns and people will park on it.

    you don't need to have flower pots and a perfectly smooth surface before people will park their cars on it so if the space is available parking should be free so that people can get access to the town. it doesn't really encourage people to go and shop in the town if they are already down a few eur before they even leave the car park

    in america you hardly ever have to pay for parking because they have huge amounts of land available to them. here towns are built into a very small space because thats how they used to do it long ago before there were cars. now every space that can hold a car is worth money


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 6,382 Mod ✭✭✭✭Macha


    towel401 wrote: »
    it doesn't cost that much to run a car park - nobody really complains about their parking spot so it's a great business to be in. you can allocate a plot of wasteland for parking like they do in some towns and people will park on it.
    For a properly run car-park, the p.a. cost/car space is estimated at around €4000/year. Surprisingly enough, there are laws and you can't just throw up a sign and call it a carpark.
    towel401 wrote: »
    you don't need to have flower pots and a perfectly smooth surface before people will park their cars on it so if the space is available parking should be free so that people can get access to the town. it doesn't really encourage people to go and shop in the town if they are already down a few eur before they even leave the car park
    The point is for people to pay for the service they're using and encourage them to use other, more sustainable forms of transport.
    towel401 wrote: »
    in america you hardly ever have to pay for parking because they have huge amounts of land available to them. here towns are built into a very small space because thats how they used to do it long ago before there were cars. now every space that can hold a car is worth money
    The urban development in Ireland over the last 20 years has been of an incredibly low-density and basically copying the American model. This makes these places very car-dependent. America is not an ideal to be lived up to, rather it's an example of what not to do in urban planning.


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