unfair?

pepsicokeacola

any1 else think its outlandish the way some people pick art which is much easier than other subjects yet get the same points as someone who does a real subject?

cautioner

Some people are musical. Should they get docked marks for doing Music?
Same goes for science, languages, maths, etc... no?

pepsicokeacola

art and music should be for outside the classroom. am i given a b1 for how much i lift?

cautioner

I don't understand your argument. Art and Music require learning, ability, and creativity, just like, let's say, English. I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be school subjects.

friendface

You do realize there is a big element of learning in Art History also. It's not just a doss subject. Creative people who take art may also be more likely to be worse at Maths or more technical subjects, well that was the case with a few people I know, including myself There is a lot of work in Art throughout the year preparing project work and compiling background information so it really isn't an easy-A subject.

I would be more concerned with people taking subjects like 'Agricultural Science' to get into courses like Medicine or Dentistry, :eek: If I had known about it when I was doing the leaving, I would have probably taken it though to get into Architecture, lol

TBH, there are a few subjects in the leaving which are good for picking up points, but I don't believe Art is one of them.

zonEEE

lol art isn't about finger painting theres a lot more to it.

MathsManiac

Also has the lowest A1-rate of all higher-level subjects, by a long shot, so hardly the place to go hunting for the top points.

Stats here: http://www.examinations.ie/statistics/statistics_2008/nat_stats_2008n.pdf

Fad

Is the only reason you post on Boards to annoy people?

I get that people do infact troll, but are there not more fun corners of the internet that you could waste your time on?

Its like you're the new Regob or something.

Davidius

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

any1 else think its outlandish the way some people pick art which is much easier than other subjects yet get the same points as someone who does a real subject?

lol.

pepsicokeacola

MathsManiac wrote: »

Also has the lowest A1-rate of all higher-level subjects, by a long shot, so hardly the place to go hunting for the top points.

Stats here: http://www.examinations.ie/statistics/statistics_2008/nat_stats_2008n.pdf

ummmm i have a theory here. you get many wasters doing art thinking its easy(which of course its not) so they expect to need to do nothin and get an a1, but get a shock and get a d2 or somethin like that jus my theory so maby not

p1akuw47h5r3it

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

any1 else think its outlandish the way some people pick art which is much easier than other subjects yet get the same points as someone who does a real subject?

No.

And I'd find art way harder then,for example, business. I can't draw for ****

friendface

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

any1 else think its outlandish the way some people pick art which is much easier than other subjects yet get the same points as someone who does a real subject?

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

ummmm i have a theory here. you get many wasters doing art thinking its easy(which of course its not) so they expect to need to do nothin and get an a1, but get a shock and get a d2 or somethin like that jus my theory so maby not

Um, are you not just contradicting yourself now... :rolleyes:

pepsicokeacola

its not easy but compared to real subjects like maths, irish, english, business it is easy and a bit irrelevant

laura!

art isn't just drawing and sculpting.... there's the art history side too which seems just as hard to learn as any other subject. so your saying if you find the subject easy to get good marks in you shouldn't get the same points as someone else who did biology????? thats stupid.... lots of people find geography really easy and will easily get A's in the leaving..... but if they find is easy does that mean they should get lower points????????

pepsicokeacola

im just saying. if it was fact wud i have had a question mark after unfair?

cautioner

pepsicokeacola wrote:

any1 else think its outlandish the way some people pick art which is much easier than other subjects

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

you get many wasters doing art thinking its easy(which of course its not)

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pepsicokeacola

could u delete that please the colour hurts my eyes

My God, you really keep coming out with brilliant statements.

I don't do art, thankfully. But, from what I know about it, I'd consider it one of the hardest. It's a lot harder than, say, maths - as it's subjective. Most subjects are objective, they're the easy ones; but the hard ones are the subjective ones: English, art, history etc.

As has already been said, it has the lowest A1 rate while still being a relatively obscure subject.

Why not pick on applied maths, which has one of the highest A1 rates?

Davidius

I think Higher Maths is the easiest subject.

0 points for me so?

pepsicokeacola

well generaly the kids who do applied maths in my school would be a bit further up the food chain than the art people

Davidius

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

well generaly the kids who do applied maths in my school would be a bit further up the food chain than the art people

Cannibalistic! :pac:

pepsicokeacola

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

well generaly the kids who do applied maths in my school would be a bit further up the food chain than the art people

And you do neither? I guess I know where you are on the food chain so.

Tell me, on what basis are you claiming art to be so ridiculously easy? Give me some evidence, or your point is just moot.

challengemaster

TROLL FAIL.

pepsicokeacola

imo art is for the people who feel history will be just too much for them.

pepsicokeacola

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

imo art is for the people who feel history will be just too much for them.

Well, personal opinions don't count for much. Unless you can back your claims up with some statistics or facts, you're points are completely irrelevant.

challengemaster

He may just be trying to make himself feel better because he's shít at history.

Just one of many possibilities though - I really don't know.

Saibh

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

any1 else think its outlandish the way some people pick art which is much easier than other subjects yet get the same points as someone who does a real subject?

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

its not easy but compared to real subjects like maths, irish, english, business it is easy and a bit irrelevant

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

well generaly the kids who do applied maths in my school would be a bit further up the food chain than the art people

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

imo art is for the people who feel history will be just too much for them.

I'm sorry to say this but I am guessing you are trolling - my son did art :mad:

implausible

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

well generaly the kids who do applied maths in my school would be a bit further up the food chain than the art people

And can the people who are "further up the food chain" spell and use proper grammar and punctuation? I feel you may be at the bottom of that particular chain darling:rolleyes:

pepsicokeacola

Saibh wrote: »

I'm sorry to say this but I am guessing you are trolling - my son did art :mad:

i feel for you but don't be that angry. it was HIS choice.

Fad

Saibh wrote: »

I'm sorry to say this but I am guessing you are trolling

not even doing it well, he's trowelling:

http://www.churchbrick.com/church%20brick/Trowel.JPG
complete ruining of page format is me highlighting how annoying he is.............

pepsicokeacola

deemark wrote: »

And can the people who are "further up the food chain" spell and use proper grammar and punctuation? I feel you may be at the bottom of that particular chain darling:rolleyes:

why wud i use proper spelin on the internet i mean its not like you get given a grade or anything. relax

Davidius

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

i feel for you but don't be that angry. it was HIS choice.

Do you see where you're going wrong?

You have to try to be believable when performing this art. It's not just a case of say whatever annoys people!

(:pac:)

Saibh

Fad wrote: »

not even doing it well, he's trowelling:

Troll in the biggest term (and I think it is a she - only guessing) I am probably worse for feeding the damn thing.

Hence my dear Troll - go away (forever)

I'm slightly disappointed with this troll; they usually do a far superior job.

Fad

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

why wud i use proper spelin on the internet i mean its not like you get given a grade or anything. relax

Read the charter, failure to abide by it=bannage.

Your bannage=happiness even if its only temporary.........

challengemaster

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

I'm slightly disappointed with this troll; they usually do a far superior job.

Maybe he didn't do art because he's not at all creative?

Fad

challengemaster wrote: »

Maybe he didn't do art because he's not at all creative?

*looks back at page 2 and giggles*

Nah, he's just a tool:pac:

challengemaster

No yore a trowel!

(The puns will just get worse, won't they, Fad?) :pac:

pepsicokeacola

nice clique u have goin on in here lads. pathetic

Flipz4Rollz

Saibh

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Fad

challengemaster wrote: »

No yore a trowel!

(The puns will just get worse, won't they, Fad?) :pac:

In real life, I hate puns, on the internet, even more!

(There are few exceptions, but there are some)

challengemaster

Tell me, Pepsietc.etc., what subjects do you do?

Fad

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

nice clique u have goin on in here lads. pathetic

Then why post here if its soooooooo beneath you?

pepsicokeacola

business
irish
history
english
maths
french
classics
geography

challengemaster

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

history

Ah, theory correct! He's trying to make himself feel better for doing shíte.

Fad

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

business
irish
history
english
maths
french
classics
geography

Amusingly, 3 of those subjects are regarded as relatively easy A's and are frequently picked up by repeat students.

pepsicokeacola

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

business
irish
history
english
maths
french
classics
geography

Since you're so very judgemental, let me be.

Geography and Business, unarguable considered two of the easiest Leaving Cert. subjects.

History and Classics, yes, they'd be harder.

But, don't you see that passing remarks about how easy you percieve subjects to be is pointless? Because someone can say right back that Geography and Business are considered pretty easy.

The point I'm trying to make, and always have been trying to make, is that the difficulty of a subject is highly subjective. I'd put art in the same boat as history, and indeed english. It isn't an easy subject, because not one single subject on the LC is easy. Why? Because everyones different. I personally find app. maths, maths and physics to be very easy. Does that mean they are? No. Does that give other people the right to complain about how easy I percieve them to be? No.

The moral of my story is that difficulty is subjective; it's subjective because everyone is different.

implausible

pepsicokeacola wrote: »

why wud i use proper spelin on the internet i mean its not like you get given a grade or anything. relax

Oh, so it's a choice? You can spell, you just choose not to?

I would've thought, given your superior attitude, that you would be eager to show off your proficiency in a real subject.

pepsicokeacola

no need for the condescending tone.