Cannabis plants seized from Newry house fire

gerTheGreat

A man in 40s has been arrested following the discovery of a number of cannabis plants at a house fire in Newry, Co Down, last night.
Shortly before 10pm, emergency services responded to fire at a house in the Clermont Gardens area of the city.
On arriving, police found a number of cannabis plants and items used in the cultivation of the drug.
The fire is not believed to have been started maliciously.
Police later released the man has since been released pending further enquiries.

My favourite line:

The fire is not believed to have been started maliciously.

I can just imagine the neighbours stoned out of their heads.


Link: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0123/breaking22.htm

sdanseo

Heh, they went to all the trouble saving it from the fire and now the police will just burn it anyway. What a waste of resources, in more ways than one :P

Seriously though, I wouldnt have shed many tears over a drug dealer. Actually, that's Karma for you. Grow/sell drugs and your house goes up - nice.

DarkJager

What a ****in waste of good chronic...

Rowley Birkin QC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlQSwY-YiH4

:pac::pac:

max_power

You sir are a moron.

Sharpshooter

That's not very nice.

m83

You see the trouble with drugs, heroin in particular, they're just so damned moreish!

raah!

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Heh, they went to all the trouble saving it from the fire and now the police will just burn it anyway. What a waste of resources, in more ways than one :P

Seriously though, I wouldnt have shed many tears over a drug dealer. Actually, that's Karma for you. Grow/sell drugs and your house goes up - nice.

You're a horrible person then, why would you assume karma shares your misplaced hatred for people who like to inebriate themselves differently than you do?

This was nearly the most disgusting post I've ever read here.

Hellm0

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Heh, they went to all the trouble saving it from the fire and now the police will just burn it anyway. What a waste of resources, in more ways than one :P

Seriously though, I wouldnt have shed many tears over a drug dealer. Actually, that's Karma for you. Grow/sell drugs and your house goes up - nice.

Since when does growing Marijuana make you a drug dealer? Some people grow for personal use. Between people spraying fiber glass on green in order to raise it's weight and scumbag dealers mixing hash with shoe polish I think it is far better for people to grow their own. This also halts the flow of funds to the wrong people, if criminal organizations receive money from selling cannabis then obviously then this would obviously be preferable.

max_power

Sharpshooter wrote: »

That's not very nice.

Maybe not but his/her uneducated and moronic opinion led me to believe that he/she was indeed a moron.

1) Someones a drug dealer cause they grow some pot in their own house?

2) To say that anyone that does so deserves to have their house burn down is one of the most retarded ideas ever.

gags89

dudes, i can tell you being high right now....weed is whopper, not addictive, creates less problems than the booze,less belly and people are always in a good mood smokin it!..people get aggro drinking...
so hush up..


and roll.

Davidius

drugs lol

m83

gags89 wrote: »

dudes, i can tell you being high right now....weed is whopper, not addictive, creates less problems than the booze,less belly and people are always in a good mood smokin it!..people get aggro drinking...
so hush up..


and roll.

Tune in again at the same time tomorrow for more Obvious Words of Wisdom from The Stoner.

DarkJager

gags89 wrote: »

dudes, i can tell you being high right now....weed is whopper, not addictive, creates less problems than the booze,less belly and people are always in a good mood smokin it!..people get aggro drinking...
so hush up..


and roll.

Ah man, don't be making me crave a hit of the budalicious sticky icky green **** now. I've 2 hours of work left ffs!

max_power

Didn't think this would descend into a "Yo i smoke pot" thread so quick.

K-9

They made a right hash of that!

sdonn_1

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Heh, they went to all the trouble saving it from the fire and now the police will just burn it anyway. What a waste of resources, in more ways than one :P

Seriously though, I wouldnt have shed many tears over a drug dealer. Actually, that's Karma for you. Grow/sell drugs and your house goes up - nice.

yeah right:pac:

sdanseo

raah! wrote: »

You're a horrible person then, why would you assume karma shares your misplaced hatred for people who like to inebriate themselves differently than you do?

This was nearly the most disgusting post I've ever read here.

Hellm0 wrote: »

Since when does growing Marijuana make you a drug dealer? Some people grow for personal use. Between people spraying fiber glass on green in order to raise it's weight and scumbag dealers mixing hash with shoe polish I think it is far better for people to grow their own. This also halts the flow of funds to the wrong people, if criminal organizations receive money from selling cannabis then obviously then this would obviously be preferable.

I'm assuming that he was growing it to deal to people. I don't have a particular problem with hash, it seems relatively harmless compared to cocaine or heroin etc. But dealing it is still very wrong. If people want to try it, fine, source it how you will. But people who try to get others hooked on any drug for personal gain, where there is potential for health to be affected, is not on.

Maybe my comment was a little harsh but my point stands tbh.

DarkJager

sdonn_1 wrote: »

I'm assuming that he was growing it to deal to people. I don't have a particular problem with hash, it seems relatively harmless compared to cocaine or heroin etc.

Maybe my comment was a little harsh but my point stands tbh.

Fail.

raah!

sdonn_1 wrote: »

I'm assuming that he was growing it to deal to people. I don't have a particular problem with hash, it seems relatively harmless compared to cocaine or heroin etc. But dealing it is still very wrong. If people want to try it, fine, source it how you will. But people who try to get others hooked on any drug for personal gain, where there is potential for health to be affected, is not on.

Maybe my comment was a little harsh but my point stands tbh.

Oh my god...

Please just go do a search on wikipedia, or a government site even.

The only way there is any point here, is if you think selling things that are bad for your health to people is immoral. You don't think that though, so you're just wrong in million different ways.

It's ridiculous having such a strong opinion on something you know absurdly little about.Every part of your post there was ridiculous.

JC 2K3

sdonn_1 wrote: »

I'm assuming that he was growing it to deal to people. I don't have a particular problem with hash, it seems relatively harmless compared to cocaine or heroin etc. But dealing it is still very wrong. If people want to try it, fine, source it how you will. But people who try to get others hooked on any drug for personal gain, where there is potential for health to be affected, is not on.

Maybe my comment was a little harsh but my point stands tbh.

No it doesn't.

You seem to have absolutely no proper comprehension of what a drug is or anything about them.

sdanseo

Right, so drug dealing is moral, legal, safe and harmless and you all support it. Nice.

I think dealing in something that's illegal, and proven to be bad for your health on many levels is wrong, yes. OK, so cigarettes and alcohol are the same thing, but they're on the right side of the law at the very least. Hypothetically, if the guy was dealing, he was breaking the law, and exploiting the addiction of others for personal gain, and probably starting the addiction in the first place too. My point is and always was as simple as this: I think that is wrong, no matter what the substance - be in heroin, hash, cigarettes, anything. If people choose to drink, smoke or inject themselves with fcuking battery acid then let them. But exploiting someone's addiction to a substance is an entirely different matter.

Explain to me exactly why I don't have a point rather than telling me to wiki things and calling me clueless please. As for the reason I have a strong opinion, I have seen and hard what drugs can do to entire communities. They are the absolute scourge and are distributed by the scum of the earth. Maybe the fact I've stayed away from them is the reason I apparently know nothing about the subject

hostchecker

Wow crazy thread guys

DarkJager

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Right, so drug dealing is moral, legal, safe and harmless and you all support it. Nice.

I think dealing in something that's illegal, and proven to be bad for your health on many levels is wrong, yes. OK, so cigarettes and alcohol are the same thing, but they're on the right side of the law at the very least.

So that makes those substances safer than cannabis? Give me a break. Just because they can be sold over the counter doesn't mean ****. It just means they have a wider and more influential user base than weed. FYI, if someone is growing weed, they're more than likely not going to be standing on street corners peddling it to kids in the chance of getting them hooked. They are most likely using it for personal use and sorting out a few friends who smoke.

sdonn_1 wrote:

Hypothetically, if the guy was dealing, he was breaking the law, and exploiting the addiction of others for personal gain, and probably starting the addiction in the first place too. My point is and always was as simple as this: I think that is wrong, no matter what the substance - be in heroin, hash, cigarettes, anything. If people choose to drink, smoke or inject themselves with fcuking battery acid then let them. But exploiting someone's addiction to a substance is an entirely different matter.

I don't think it said anywhere he was dealing, they just found the plants in his house. Having plants in the house does not mean you are going to deal it, but of course anti-drug fascists don't understand that and probably can't grasp that concept either. Again, how are you jumping to the conclusion that he was forcing anyone into an addiction?

Explain to me exactly why I don't have a point rather than telling me to wiki things and calling me clueless please. As for the reason I have a strong opinion, I have seen and hard what drugs can do to entire communities. They are the absolute scourge and are distributed by the scum of the earth. Maybe the fact I've stayed away from them is the reason I apparently know nothing about the subject

You don't have a point, plain and simple. Your post sounds like that of someone who has been brainwashed by all the anti-drug spook stories which are so far off the mark its not even funny. As for the people who deal them being "scum of the earth", again you are exhibiting the hysteria of an anti drug fascist. Heroin dealers? Yes they are scum. But a guy growing some weed for personal use or because he prefers the relaxed feeling of a few tokes rather than getting pissed out of his brains like an idiot, is defo not scum of the earth. The people I know who deal smoke or smoke it themselves, hold down steady good paying jobs and have certifications behind them, on top of looking after their families - far from the street peddler you seem to have sterotyped upon every user of a drug. And you've seen and heard what drugs do to communties? You're defintely clueless if you drag weed into that debate.

Wow, this thread went off the rails quickly.

raah!

Cannabis isn't addictive. Doing something against the law doesn't mean you deserve to get your house burned down.

By your logic there you should wish the same fate on all shops who sell cigarettes, a far more harmful and addictive thing. You should be ranting about alcohol, cigarettes, and fat and everything else, if you really think what you've said you think. But you don't your only targetting weed (and more justifiably, heavier drugs).

No one ever said drug dealing was legal.. and if your one of those fellows who roots their ideas of right and wrong in legal/illegal. Then you actually can't by logical contradiction, condemn weed and other unhealthy things (alcohol cigarettes) at the same time. You understand?. So you can't say that weed is bad and legal things are good (unless the only basis for your argument is that one is illegal and the other not). You have to say they are all good, or all bad. This obviously isn't what you've been doing, and it's obvious what type of person you are. If you didn't have the minority of drug users to condemn, you wouldn't do it, you wouldn't be around shouting that all off licencses should be burned down. Because you're a hateful little coward.

It's not up to you whether or not people chose to harm themselves. Someone selling weed is no differnt to a shop selling alcohol. If you were really so opposed to things like "starting addiction blah blah blah" then you'd be out protesting in front of off licesnes too. You don't though, so you're a hypocrite


Learn to differentiate between drugs. That you just call them all "drugs" and put weed in the same sentences as heroin and cocain. This shows you know nothing. Another thing, if you do chose to use the term "drugs" remeber that this includes cigarettes and alcohol. If you say "illegal drugs" again you are making a distinction which implies you think the legal ones are ok.

You should admit to yourself that you know nothing about this, you obviously don't. Weed is not a "hard drug"

Now, yes I support people growing their own weed , and then selling it, a poster has already outlined how helfpul this can be as regular smokers do not have to buy from scum bags from regular scum bags then, who spray it with all sorts of harmful things.

As to your hideous blind reverence for the law, it was once illegal for women to vote, for gay people to be gay... blah blah blah blah blah. I hope you change your opinion, because apart from agreeing with the law, you are condemning a group of people who have never done anything to you, and simply chose to spend their free time differently.

The only point you've actually made, is that weed is illegal, and by saying that people who sell this deserve to have their house burned down, and not everyone who breaks the law shows again, you're just targeting a minority. Go look up wikipedia.

sdanseo

Deleted User wrote: »

Wow, this thread went off the rails quickly.

Tell me about it.

My statements above were based on the gross generalisation that all drug dealers are out to get people addicted for personal gain with no regard for their health. Where this is the case, let them fukcing rot. Where it is not, I apologise for the generalisation.

To clarify, I am perfectly able to differentiate between drugs, hard or not, and their effects etc. It's the raw principle referred to above that I was getting at.

Granted I was unaware that not all people growing and selling small amounts of cannabis are involved in this, but are merely catering for friends on a small scale. While this is illegal, I'm not a bloody angel and I've no problem with this. It's the idea of people being lured into any drug habit that I can't stand and this doesn't apply in that scenario.

That is as deep as any feeling went in this thread for me. In fact the initial post was meant to be mildly humorous. Feck it, lesson learned not to generalise. Clearly the jest was too well disguised. Combined with people reading a bit too much into things; ye've al gang-raped me for a silly comment, which is nice. :rolleyes:

Thread over, tbh.

madmik

Hellm0 wrote: »

Since when does growing Marijuana make you a drug dealer? Some people grow for personal use. Between people spraying fiber glass on green in order to raise it's weight and scumbag dealers mixing hash with shoe polish I think it is far better for people to grow their own. This also halts the flow of funds to the wrong people, if criminal organizations receive money from selling cannabis then obviously then this would obviously be preferable.

people put fiber glass on badly grown weed so it looks like its laden with thc crystals
to raise the weight it would be easier to dampen the weed or not dry it out fully

adding fiber glass is a filthy practice and should be punishable by death

god knows what damage inhaling shards of fiberglass could do to your lungs long term

robby^5

Protip: Cannabis is not habit-forming.

javaboy

robby^5 wrote: »

Protip: Cannabis is not habit-forming.

Yes it is. It may not be chemically addictive but it is habit-forming.

Diabhal Beag

Stoner population of Boards.ie has had a get-together WOO HOO

raah!

hrrm yes, perhaps we were a tad over-sensitive, but you must admit what you said was really rather terrible.

So a fire eh?

sdanseo

Little Shyte wrote: »

Stoner population of Boards.ie has had a get-together WOO HOO

Except me of course :P

Actually this thread has stressed me out, I might try it now

hot2def

madmik wrote: »

people put fiber glass on badly grown weed so it looks like its laden with thc crystals
to raise the weight it would be easier to dampen the weed or not dry it out fully

adding fiber glass is a filthy practice and should be punishable by death

god knows what damage inhaling shards of fiberglass could do to your lungs long term

it isn't fiberglass, its glass beads. and according to the British Thorasic Society, not a great deal of damage....


"The first reports of grit weed circulated in late summer, but the groups have only recently received pictures of the beads taken with an electron microscope by an anonymous scientist. There have been rumours of users experiencing a tight chest for days after smoking grit weed, but a spokesperson for the British Thoracic Society said that the contamination was unlikely to be dangerous because the particles are too big to be inhaled into the lungs.

An analysis carried out by the French Observatory of Drugs and Drug Addiction found that the glass particles are between 0.02 and 0.3 millimetres across. But Richard Russell, a consultant at Imperial College London, said few particles above 0.015 millimetres would be able to pass into the lungs because they are too big."


from here
http://nathanr.ca/health/dangerous-marijuana-in-circulation/

nibble

javaboy wrote: »

Yes it is. It may not be chemically addictive but it is habit-forming.

As is anything that people may derive pleasure from...

dr.bollocko

max_power wrote: »

You sir are a moron.

Banned.

javaboy

nibble wrote: »

As is anything that people may derive pleasure from...

Agreed.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I buy my weed in a shop, coffee and a smoke, it's great You think I am a scumbag? I mean, it's perfectly legal and I ain't harming anybody. Money is even going to the government.

Java is right, robby^5 is completely wrong with that statement.

To let you people know, cannibis IS addictive, it is not as addictive as alcohol or nicotine. It is way low on the addictive scale, but people may become dependant on it, as they do sleeping pills, alcohol or caffene.

Sdonn_1 educate yourself, were you raised by jesus freaks? Alcohol and nicotine is ok because the government says so, yet cannibis and other drugs are bad for the same reason? Learn to think for yourself... Damn I wish personal abuse was allowed for such occasions.

nobodythere

sdonn_1 wrote: »

My statements above were based on the gross generalisation that all drug dealers are out to get people addicted for personal gain with no regard for their health. Where this is the case, let them fukcing rot. Where it is not, I apologise for the generalisation.

In 99% of cases this is not the case. In the other 1%, wtf has it got anything to do with the topic of this thread? Cannabis is no more addictive than cornflakes just to make that clear to you.

old boy

grasshopa wrote: »

In 99% of cases this is not the case. In the other 1%, wtf has it got anything to do with the topic of this thread?
















Cannabis is no more addictive than cornflakes just to make that clear to you.

stats beg to differ

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

grasshopa wrote: »

In 99% of cases this is not the case. In the other 1%, wtf has it got anything to do with the topic of this thread? Cannabis is no more addictive than cornflakes just to make that clear to you.

Do some research on it, you will find that cornflakes are less addictive than cannabis. MDMA (found in XTC) Is less addictive than cannabis, would you believe that?

sdanseo

grasshopa wrote: »

In 99% of cases this is not the case. In the other 1%, wtf has it got anything to do with the topic of this thread? Cannabis is no more addictive than cornflakes just to make that clear to you.

I know enough people* that can't shake the stuff to prove you wrong without diggin up statistics or research or any of that bollocks - to the extent I have deliberately never ask them where they get the stuff because I just dont wanna know. Trust me, it's addictive - for some people at least.

Mrs.

Cannabis stupifies people, alters there reality, as does alcohol, in a different way. I know more people that are addicted to it than to alcohol, and those that try to give it up keep relapsing, with mood swings like roller coasters. Smoke something that has shoved up someone's arse from Morocco/mixed with god knows what/profits the criminals that traffic women and children like animals? Everyone has their crutch for escaping reality, but this one is particularly lame. Paranoia is not an attractive trait.

mikom

Mrs. wrote: »

Cannabis stupifies people, alters there reality,

Ironing.


Protip.
Most people that refer to Cannabis as hash haven't got a clue what they are talking about.
Show me a man that can grow hash.

Wertz

Re-registrate not fade away
Re-registrate not fade away

wild_cat

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

Stoner population of Boards.ie has had a get-together WOO HOO

I'm not a stoner but when I read that first post I felt like saying something myself.

I'm allergic to sufferers of "Maude Flanders syndrome".

wild_cat

mikom wrote: »

Ironing.


Protip.
Most people that refer to Cannabis as hash haven't got a clue what they are talking about.
Show me a man that can grow hash.

Turf anyone?

El Weirdo

Mrs. wrote: »

I know more people that are addicted to it than to alcohol...

No you fucking don't. Stop lying.

My name is URL

Mrs. wrote: »

Cannabis stupifies people, alters there reality, as does alcohol, in a different way. I know more people that are addicted to it than to alcohol, and those that try to give it up keep relapsing, with mood swings like roller coasters. Smoke something that has shoved up someone's arse from Morocco/mixed with god knows what/profits the criminals that traffic women and children like animals? Everyone has their crutch for escaping reality, but this one is particularly lame. Paranoia is not an attractive trait.

What's yours? Seems to work a treat

RichieC

The man probably kept a company in business for another month with all the gear he had to buy to grow it.. and pays more for electrics too.

Assuming it's only personal use he's a model citizen.. though probably a ****ty sparks if his setup caused the fire.

Chuck Stone

sdeire wrote: »

But dealing it is still very wrong.

Why?

But people who try to get others hooked on any drug for personal gain, where there is potential for health to be affected, is not on.

The evil drug pusher is a myth.

Right, so drug dealing is moral, legal, safe and harmless and you all support it. Nice.

Supporting prohibition of drugs is immoral, harmful, and inadvertently provides a revenue source for criminal drug gangs.

As for the reason I have a strong opinion, I have seen and hard what drugs can do to entire communities.

And you think locking people up and giving them criminal records which will limit their life choices is helpfull?

They are the absolute scourge

Substance abuse is a problem - drugs are just substances.

and are distributed by the scum of the earth.

Drugs can't be sold by legitimate suppliers because of prohibition, ergo, criminals fill the void.

Prohibition adds to the problem of substance abuse by giving criminals an income stream and criminalising abusers and recreational users.