Alice In Chains singer, yay or nay?

brendansmith

The new lad im on about now.

Got my ticket to see them in oz, i know they played afew years back in Ireland.
Does anyone who went have any opinions on them now that they would like to share?

Passenger

He does his job well. Got decent stage presence too. No complaints from a fan point of view and certainly none from a technical point of view. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Chaosangel

Duvall isnt it?..saw em a few year back alrite thought he had a great stage presence,good singer considering who he's stepping in for,the band were tight out anyway so your in for a good show

Parsley

From what I remember of seeing them, he did the job very well indeed.

Doctor J

Hopefully people don't expect a Staley clone and AIC can get past the "It's not Alice In Chains without...." bull**** which has plagued the likes of Sepultura. Expect something different and enjoy it. He seems like a good singer and a decent bloke and it's great to see that band in action again.

buck65

Its not AIC without... o sorry Doctor J
but it's not though. Saley as AIC in my eyes i'd have no inerest in this band now. Saw AiC waay back in the Point supporting Megadeth 1990?. Staley poured his heart out in those songs and became them that is why I think now they are just another band.

Doctor J

I was also at that gig. Mike Starr was pouring his heart out too

h8red

Is Jerry Cantrell still with them? He was as much AIC as Staley was.

Doctor J

Yep, it's Cantrell, Kinney, Inez and Duvall now

h8red

Sweet. Cantrell is the business.

finbarr

Never saw 'em with Layne. Did see them supporting Metallica a few years back and they were fantastic... Duvall did justice to the old stuff and has me looking forward to any new music from them.

Some of my favourite music is Jar Of Flies and their Unplugged album but we all know there'll never be a Layne Staley in AIC again so...

buck65

so change the name!

seachto7

How come people let AC/DC off for replacing Bon Scott, but AIC get slagged off....

Doctor J

seachto7 wrote: »

How come people let AC/DC off for replacing Bon Scott, but AIC get slagged off....

or Iron Maiden, or Faith No More, or Pantera etc

lurrrvs2sp00ge

meh

finbarr

Doctor J wrote: »

or Iron Maiden, or Faith No More, or Pantera etc

You could add Anthrax, Cryptopsy, Skid Row, Helloween, Sabbath, Trouble, Queen, Thin Lizzy, Van Halen...

Myself and the wife were talking about this years Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame and the whole 25 years after your 1st album requirement. She jokingly mentioned that it should only apply to a band that maintained the same line-up for that 25 years... Silly I know but when we started thinking about it there's actually f**k all bands that haven't changed line-up in that time frame. Maybe they should all change thier names too... After all it's not the same band anymore is it???

Doctor J

A band name is nothing more than a label to print on the front of a record sleeve. It's not a guarantee of good tunes, of adhering to any genre or musical style. Seeing Metallica on an album does not guarantee that the music within will bear any resemblance in sound, quality or anything else to Master Of Puppets, for example. It's just a brand name, like Volkswagen or Mr. Kipling. Times change, people change, music changes, it's a good thing. Enjoy the journey.

Crosby, Stills and Nash, however, now if one of them goes, fair enough, but if the keyboard player from Rammstein leaves, is it really less Rammstein?

Motley Crue

brendansmith wrote: »

i know they played afew years back in Ireland.

Mainstage support to Metallica during the Summer of 06 because Korn pulled out at the last minute to Alice In Chains were moved from Tent Headliners to Main Stage openers. Metallica, especially James, has always been a huge supporter of this band in any formation - he played with them at Rock Am Ring the same year - and I think the new guy knows enough of the old classics to put on a good show. But I would hope the new album is enough to get them through the usual "Im going for the old ****" phase

The OP would be wise to watch the footage below, the view is terrible, but the sound is excellent....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBe_vT9J6Yw

seachto7

Anthrax replaced their singer, didn't do them too much harm. I can listen to both but prefer John Bush era for sure.

Doctor J

I think he was referring to Neil Turbin too, the first singer. Anthrax's success came during the eras of their second and third singers

seachto7

Doctor J wrote: »

I think he was referring to Neil Turbin too, the first singer. Anthrax's success came during the eras of their second and third singers

forgot about Neil Turbin, and Anthrax replaced Bush with Belladonna, and now have a new singer again...

toffo

DuVall was excellant when they supported 'tallica.
Rock Am Ring stuff from 06 here
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Alice+In+Chains+Rock+Am+Ring+2006

brendansmith

I dont see a problem with the members of a band maintaining the name should one member leave/die/get kicked out. Axl is pushing it abit though.

Why bother change the name? They are gonna be playing the old favourites anyway and it gives the band a helping hand when trying to get going again.

With or without Layne i cant wait to see alice in chains play, there is too much sh1te and not enough of the bands that i grew up listening still touring in any shape or form to be getting bogged down in specifics.

Beekay

Seen them at the Metallica gig too. Great stuff! Good singer!

Was talking to him after Metallica played aswell. he was just standing at a side barrier when everything was finished watching all the fans leave so me and my sis went up for a chat. Real down to earth guy.

Motley Crue

http://www.stellarproducts.biz/alinchroamri.html

This DVD should be a must since the band have yet to release a new album with a newer lineup

jenizzle

Saw them with Metallica, and also in Austria the same year. William DuVall is a solid singer and front man. Definitely a show to enjoy!

Neo#

Motley Crue wrote: »

http://www.stellarproducts.biz/alinchroamri.html

This DVD should be a must since the band have yet to release a new album with a newer lineup

Is that a bootleg because I cant find it on amazon or anywhere else? Might be worth a purchase.

Motley Crue

Neo# wrote: »

Is that a bootleg because I cant find it on amazon or anywhere else? Might be worth a purchase.

Yes its a bootleg but its pro shot from a German TV programme so its watchable

Neo#

Must get it!

poundhound

The whole "Not the same without Staley" arguement is dependent on whether you ever seen them with Layne Stayley. Most people on this thread mention the Metallica show, but having seen Alice in Chains in the SFX back in 1993 (i think), I cant muster up any enthusiasm for them since Stayley's death. "DIRT" is easily the best album of the grunge era, inc "NEVERMIND". You can really sense the turmoil that the frontman was embroiled in throughout the album. "Down in a hole" is a monster of a song.....hear, "...I have been guilty of kicking myself in the teeth, look at me now Im a man who wont let himself be". Their show in the SFX was f@cking intense and I remember reading Jerry Cantrells tour diary in Kerrang at the time where he said, the Dublin show was the first time he was actually scared of the crowd such was their entusiasm. It was a privilage to be there.

Chuchu

Wow... I had no idea about this. A huge AIC fan from the get go, saw them support Megadeth in the Point and was at the aforementioned AMAZING SFX gig (also interesting re tour diary, thanks for that, there was an atmosphere there alright) but to get to the point even though I am a HUGE fan of Staley's voice (he really was unique, NO ONE sounds like him) I'd be very open to listening to the new guy and to any new music AIC put out. Interesting news indeed.

Motley Crue

poundhound wrote: »

having seen Alice in Chains in the SFX back in 1993 (i think), I cant muster up any enthusiasm for them since Stayley's death.

To be fair, I'd say most people on this thread aren't old enough to have seen Alice In Chains in the SFX in 93....in any case, from all accounts of anyone I have ever spoken to, that was the the most amazing gig the band has ever played

jenizzle

poundhound wrote: »

The whole "Not the same without Staley" arguement is dependent on whether you ever seen them with Layne Stayley. Most people on this thread mention the Metallica show, but having seen Alice in Chains in the SFX back in 1993 (i think), I cant muster up any enthusiasm for them since Stayley's death. "DIRT" is easily the best album of the grunge era, inc "NEVERMIND". You can really sense the turmoil that the frontman was embroiled in throughout the album. "Down in a hole" is a monster of a song.....hear, "...I have been guilty of kicking myself in the teeth, look at me now Im a man who wont let himself be". Their show in the SFX was f@cking intense and I remember reading Jerry Cantrells tour diary in Kerrang at the time where he said, the Dublin show was the first time he was actually scared of the crowd such was their entusiasm. It was a privilage to be there.

Thats great to hear. Show definitely sounds amazing and nobody is doubting the talent that was Layne ... but maybe it's time for people to get over it and move on? The band are certainly trying to...

poundhound

One of the things I remember about that show was that Stayley said right from the outset, "Dublin, you give us a show and we'll give you a show!".At various stages throughoutout the gig the stage was swamped by fans and stagedivers while the band played on regardless. The security guards didnt know what the f@ck was happening. Stayley stood motionless centre stage, while Cantrell looked a tad uncomfortable with the preceeedings. Layne Stayleys menacing stance was only broken when some chancer decided to help himself to a swig of the frontmans bottle of JD. Que Layne Stayley, "Hey Jack, don't fcuk with my Jack!".The SFX was a dump of a venue but Ive seen some great gigs there, Kings X in 1990, Queensryche in 1991, AIC in 1993, The Black Crowes, Suede, Stone Temple Pilots in 1994 and Skunk Anansie and Iron Maiden in 1995. Great days!

seachto7

I still can' t understand how AC/DC are getting away with their change of singer. No one seems to be slating them...

poundhound

Probably because Brian Johnston is unique himself and the band really only received mass success from 1980 onwards. Remember AC/DC's first album with Johnston on vocals is arguably their best album and the 3rd biggest selling album of all time.Regardless of your preference, not only did Brian Johnston step into Bon Scotts shoes, he contributed to taking them to another level.Ive often wondered what Back in Black would sound like with Bon Scott on vocals?! Cant imagine anyone but Johnston singing those songs.

seachto7

was Back in Black written before Bon died? Would he have been due to sing over the tracks that are on the album? Or did the album take shape around Brian's vocal style?

off topic, sorry...

anyways, I'd be open to hearing some new AIC, and if it's good, it'll be good...

poundhound

Back in Black was released 3 months after Bon Scots death, so Id imagine it was at the latter stages of writing when he passed away. Actually, I read in a recent AC/DC biography that when Bon Scot was being praised for the success Highway to Hell received, he often answered, "wait till you see what we have lined up next!".

Sephiroth_dude

I wish they'd come back to ireland........I dont mind what singer they have as long as they tour.the new guy sounds decent enough though.

Motley Crue

seachto7 wrote: »

I still can' t understand how AC/DC are getting away with their change of singer. No one seems to be slating them...

Prob because this is an Alice In Chains thread:rolleyes:

thebigcheese22

Aye, with a Stone Temple Pilots album out next year, coupled with new material by Pearl Jam and AIC, 2009 could be a mini 1991!

*crosses fingers*

tony1kenobi

poundhound wrote: »

One of the things I remember about that show was that Stayley said right from the outset, "Dublin, you give us a show and we'll give you a show!".At various stages throughoutout the gig the stage was swamped by fans and stagedivers while the band played on regardless. The security guards didnt know what the f@ck was happening. Stayley stood motionless centre stage, while Cantrell looked a tad uncomfortable with the preceeedings. Layne Stayleys menacing stance was only broken when some chancer decided to help himself to a swig of the frontmans bottle of JD. Que Layne Stayley, "Hey Jack, don't fcuk with my Jack!".The SFX was a dump of a venue but Ive seen some great gigs there, Kings X in 1990, Queensryche in 1991, AIC in 1993, The Black Crowes, Suede, Stone Temple Pilots in 1994 and Skunk Anansie and Iron Maiden in 1995. Great days!

Agreed.....saw smashing pumpkins do 3 hours there.........you were front and centre stage even if you were at the back. The Ambassador(if it's still going) is similar..

...I wouldn't go to Alice In Chains, I haven't forgiven AC/DC.......Pantera was a hair band before Big Phil'.....blah...blah....blah.....

Motley Crue

Whatever happened to the SFX, did they tear it down or something?

thebigcheese22

I know this thread is about Will DuVall but I just came across this tribute video to Layne -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfFtyOpwQkQ

Don't get me wrong, I hear the new guy is really good and I will be buying the album when its out in the summer.
I found this video really touching anyways. I love AIC and Layne has the same birthday as me
In the interviews you can see he had these two sides - the hardcore rock star and the troubled soul. He really is a loss to the Rock/Metal world and I find it so sad geniuses like him can get so ****ed up from drugs. I can honestly say I'm never gonna try the stuff, if thats the one thing I learn from this man, I'l be happy.

RIP Layne - You'l never be forgotten.

Motley Crue

thebigcheese22 wrote: »

I can honestly say I'm never gonna try the stuff, if thats the one thing I learn from this man, I'l be happy.

RIP Layne - You'l never be forgotten.

Read the last interview he ever did and you will never want to even talk about drugs again.

poundhound

Can you paste a copy of this interview? Id love to read it.

Doctor J

All you need to do is watch the Unplugged video to see how bad he was, years before his death. He was ****ed back then. Mark Lanegan was in a similar way when Screaming Trees appeared on Later around the same time (one of the videos is on the Later Louder DVD), skeletal face with pasty white skin, drugs are bad mmmmkay?

jenizzle

Drugs are indeed bad, but they gave some people something to sing about, including Layne (Hate to Feel, Angry Chair etc... ). Not forgetting some of his best work with Mad Season. Above is a great album.

T3h-Slayer

Alice in chains is just great!!! and their unplugged are awesome!

brendansmith

Yeah, went to that gig last night anyway.

Jerry is as tight as f*ck live, new singer is very good but im afraid the venue was seating and the aussie crowds dont really go as mental as the Irish so it whole thing seemed abit tame.

seachto7

There are quite a few clips from the soundwave festival on youtube. Feck it, I'd defo go to see them anyways if they make it over these parts.
It's not Layne.Grand job.Who is anyone to say the rest of the band can't get on with their lives and play?
It comes across that there's quite a few posters on the net who would rather run Jerry's life for him to suit themselves....
"He can't call it AIC etc etc" What? Says who? Some 15 yr old?
Then, you can't call it AC/DC if that's the case etc etc. People forget Mike Inez is/was a replacement too...