Why does Obama offer hope?

faceman

Im curious as to why people in general see Obama becoming US president offers hope to the world. Sure its great that he is the first non white president of the US and that the US can be mature enough to leave prejudice at the door, but where is the hope coming from?

His election speeches were pretty general (most of them anyway) when it came to topics and he didnt go into specific detail on many topics, bar the financial crisis.

So Im trying to work out why we are so hopeful?

So for $1m, is it because:

a) Women think he is hot
b) He is African American
c) He is charismatic
d) He has an ipod

Unfortunately due to Bush, there are no lifelines remaining!

javaboy

"Why does Obama offer hope?"

Because catchy vague sound bites get people elected.

CreepingDeath

faceman wrote: »

So Im trying to work out why we are so hopeful?

Because Hollywood portrays black American presidents as cool.
And he's young so has more energy for change and perceived capacity to handle stress.

Quint

Because he's not Bush and not a republican

Pighead

javaboy wrote: »

"Why does Obama offer hope?"

Because catchy vague sound bites get people elected.

Not quite true. If that were the case Ross Perot would have been a shoe back in 92 against Clinton.

Ross for Boss V It's time to change America.

Pighead knows which one he would have picked. Ross for Boss, Ross for Boss, Ross for Boss.

javaboy

Pighead wrote: »

Not quite true. If that were the case Ross Perot would have been a shoe back in 92 against Clinton.

Ross for Boss V It's time to change America.

Pighead knows which one he would have picked. Ross for Boss, Ross for Boss, Ross for Boss.

But Americans don't usually like "The Boss" (except Springsteen obviously) so it was a doomed campaign. Boss makes it sound like you're working for him whereas all this change/hope stuff gives you a nice "we're all in this together" vibe.

ejmaztec

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Because Hollywood portrays black American presidents as cool.
And he's young so has more energy for change and perceived capacity to handle stress.

They drop like flies in "24". :eek:

Kold

Because the world is in dire need of hope at the moment. Where there's a need, there's a niche.

Turd Ferguson

Its cos he's straight outta Compton, boyeeeeee

Sam Vimes

Quint wrote: »

Because he's not Bush and not a republican

that sums it up pretty nicely. any president other than dubya would offer hope at this stage, up to and including a block of cheese

Pighead

javaboy wrote: »

But Americans don't usually like "The Boss" (except Springsteen obviously) so it was a doomed campaign. Boss makes it sound like you're working for him whereas all this change/hope stuff gives you a nice "we're all in this together" vibe.

It's a good point javaboy. Pighead has to get into the habit of putting more thought about what exactly these slogans are saying.

Mustn't get so dazzled by the clever rhymes or shiny lettering. Never been much good at this voting lark.

During 6th year in college whilst voting for the Class Prefect, Pighead gave away his precious vote to a thicko called Donna who had absolutely no leadership or people skills. She would have been a rubbish prefect. Shamefully it was her
"A vote for Donna is a vote for a chance to have a free squeeze of my boobies" slogan that drew Pighead in.

Professey Chin

javaboy wrote: »

"Why does Obama offer hope?"

Because catchy vague sound bites get people elected.

Yes they can

The Mad Hatter

Sam Vimes wrote: »

that sums it up pretty nicely. any president other than dubya would offer hope at this stage, up to and including a block of cheese

Sarah Palin?

javaboy

Pighead wrote: »

During 6th year in college whilst voting for the Class Prefect, Pighead gave away his precious vote to a thicko called Donna who had absolutely no leadership or people skills. She would have been a rubbish prefect.

What are you? A doctor?

Turd Ferguson

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Sarah Palin?

He said up to and including. Sarah Palin is on the opposite side of that block of cheese along with a shoe, a half empy jar of marmite and Jaws (all of which wouldnt make very good Presidents at all)

Pighead

javaboy wrote: »

What are you? A doctor?

Only a Doctor of love.:cool:

Pighead went to the De La Salle College, a secondary school in Dundalk. Wonderful school in a wonderful town. It was the logical place to go as Pighead is also wonderful.

Sam Vimes

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Sarah Palin?

don't be so insulting to cheese!

Biggins

As some already said: Because he's not Bush and not a republican.

Also:

* He's worked from leaving education, from the ground upwards directly serving the poorest of the people daily. He was the best of the best in his years of college and could have gotten any job with huge wages in companies, yet he decided to go into the worst areas and serve the public in low paid legal roles.
* Because he's a thinker. He has a nick-name "No Drama Obama". In other words, he's far less likely to over react and act irrationally. He is widely known and respected both sides of the political fence for his honesty and perseverance is seeking to get a job done.
* Because he is the first president that is opening willing to take on the major drug companies that have Washington buried in lobbyists.
* Because he is a more peaceful natured person - not a war monger.
* Because he believes in the rule of law - and not see it as something to be circumvented.
* Because he truly believes in free speech. He has also stated that the because of changes in the presidential law under muppet Bush, those laws have gone too far and he intends to revoke them. He also intends to re-change a number of laws back to pre-Bush era.
* Because other countries will be willing to work with him given his more open and peaceful nature. A lot of countries (friend and foe) have stated that they also see a great opportunity to take steps forward together in commerce, democracy and understanding (and if America does start recovering, every one will get some knock on effect). This all makes the world perhaps a better safer place maybe!
* Because he wants to tackle the warring African countries and bring peace and stability to them through peaceful means. Mugabe look out!
* Because maybe he is what he appears to be, a down to earth nice guy. A guy that although still has to work within the corrupt American political apparatus, he can still inspire others to go along with him and start making changes to it as he wants to.

Turd Ferguson

Biggins wrote: »

As some already said: Because he's not Bush and not a republican.

Also:

* He's worked from leaving education, from the ground upwards directly serving the poorest of the people daily. He was the best of the best in his years of colleges and coul have gotten any job with huge wages in companies, yet he decided to go into the worst areas and serve the public in low paid legal roles.
* Because he's a thinker. He has a nick-name "No Drama Obama". In other words, he's far less likely to over react and act irrationally. He is widely known and respected both sides of the political fence for his honesty and perseverance is seeking to get a job done.
* Because he is the first president that is opening willing to take on the major drug companies that have Washington buried in lobbyists.
* Because he is a more peaceful natured person - not a war monger.
* Because he believes in the rule of law - and not see it as something to be circumvented.
* Because he truly believes in free speech. He has also stated that the because of changes in the presidential law under muppet Bush, those laws have gone too far and he intends to revoke them. He also intends to re-change a number of laws back to pre-Bush era.
* Because other countries will be willing to work with him given his more open and peaceful nature. A lot of countries (friend and foe) have stated that they also see a great opportunity to take steps forward together in commerce, democracy and understanding (and if America does start recovering, every one will get some knock on effect). This all makes the world perhaps a better safer place maybe!
* Because he wants to tackle the warring African countries and bring peace and stability to them through peaceful means. Mugabe look out!
* Because maybe he is what he appears to be, a down to earth nice guy. A guy that although still has to work within the corrupt American political apparatus, he can still inspire others to go along with him and start making changes to it as he wants to.

Yeah, what Biggins said

IvaBigWun

Why does Obama offer hope?

Because the media said so.

Hard Larry

Because if he was offering The Big Issue you'd walk right by him.

b0bsquish

woo change~!

Darkbloom

Biggins said the best reasons but it should also be noted that the big thing that got him elected was his reaction to the financial crisis - he looked strong and McCain - well, he made a comment about the fundamentals being strong and looked completely hopeless.

IvaBigWun

Hard Larry wrote: »

Because if he was offering The Big Issue you'd walk right by him.

Racist.

antomorro-sei

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Because the media said so.

x2, biggest reason IMO

RobFowl

Pighead wrote: »

"A vote for Donna is a vote for a chance to have a free squeeze of my boobies" slogan that drew Pighead in.

To be fair it's hard to argue with that slogan !
Unless Brian cowen uses it :eek:

gurramok

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Because Hollywood portrays black American presidents as cool.
And he's young so has more energy for change and perceived capacity to handle stress.

Told ye he would get elected because of the likes of 24!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=55009280&postcount=101

Hazys

Biggins wrote: »

As some already said: Because he's not Bush and not a republican.

Also:

* He's worked from leaving education, from the ground upwards directly serving the poorest of the people daily. He was the best of the best in his years of college and could have gotten any job with huge wages in companies, yet he decided to go into the worst areas and serve the public in low paid legal roles.
* Because he's a thinker. He has a nick-name "No Drama Obama". In other words, he's far less likely to over react and act irrationally. He is widely known and respected both sides of the political fence for his honesty and perseverance is seeking to get a job done.
* Because he is the first president that is opening willing to take on the major drug companies that have Washington buried in lobbyists.
* Because he is a more peaceful natured person - not a war monger.
* Because he believes in the rule of law - and not see it as something to be circumvented.
* Because he truly believes in free speech. He has also stated that the because of changes in the presidential law under muppet Bush, those laws have gone too far and he intends to revoke them. He also intends to re-change a number of laws back to pre-Bush era.
* Because other countries will be willing to work with him given his more open and peaceful nature. A lot of countries (friend and foe) have stated that they also see a great opportunity to take steps forward together in commerce, democracy and understanding (and if America does start recovering, every one will get some knock on effect). This all makes the world perhaps a better safer place maybe!
* Because he wants to tackle the warring African countries and bring peace and stability to them through peaceful means. Mugabe look out!
* Because maybe he is what he appears to be, a down to earth nice guy. A guy that although still has to work within the corrupt American political apparatus, he can still inspire others to go along with him and start making changes to it as he wants to.

To add to that, he is also an excellant public speaker who can inspire people. He made people believe in change, and he made them believe he could do it.

If you can inspire people like that they become motivated to follow you and work for you, unlike Bush who people hated and opposed.

dr.bollocko

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Racist.

Banned.

Wudyaquit

antomorro-sei wrote: »

x2, biggest reason IMO

x2 = 4
Rupert Murdoch et al and their pro-democrat, pro-minority agenda have fooled us all again. But RTE's the worst - Anne Doyle's up to something reporting the news using reports and pictures from the States - makes me sick.
Another 4 years of Bush would tickle my bits just fine.

Orizio

He doesn't.

But people are easily led by hype.

Mint Sauce

because after 8 years of dubwa, anything is a plus, also he looks/sounds kinda cool

:cool:

S.I.R

faceman wrote: »

Im curious as to why people in general see Obama becoming US president offers hope to the world. Sure its great that he is the first non white president of the US and that the US can be mature enough to leave prejudice at the door, but where is the hope coming from?

His election speeches were pretty general (most of them anyway) when it came to topics and he didnt go into specific detail on many topics, bar the financial crisis.

So Im trying to work out why we are so hopeful?

So for $1m, is it because:

a) Women think he is hot
b) He is African American
c) He is charismatic
d) He has an ipod

Unfortunately due to Bush, there are no lifelines remaining!

he brings us painting at affordable prices.

wylo

Because he has created a chain reaction, if people believe "they can" then they can. Hope creates confidence, confidence feeds off itself. Obama is just a representation of what America has wanted to become after 8 years of W. Even his speeches are based around everybody coming together to make the country better. Think of him as the person that gave them that push using excellent public speaking.

Biggins

Biggins wrote: »

* Because he truly believes in free speech. He has also stated that the because of changes in the presidential law under muppet Bush, those laws have gone too far and he intends to revoke them. He also intends to re-change a number of laws back to pre-Bush era...

He's NOT wasting any time!

POTUS Obama Halts Bush Rules and Regs

January 20, 2009 7:05 PM

The new paint in the White House likely hasn’t even dried yet, but newly-minted President Barack Obama’s team is already on the job.

When government workers return to their desks tomorrow after today's holiday, they will be met with some new instructions. This afternoon, White House Chief of Staff and Assistant to the president, Rahm Emanuel issued a memorandum ordering all U.S. government agencies to stop implementing any pending rules and regulations issued by the Bush administration until the Obama administration has an opportunity to review and sign off on them.

Per the memorandum, any proposed or final regulation cannot be published until it has been approved by an agency head appointed by President Obama. The memorandum also advises extending for 60 days the date of regulations in the Federal Register that have not yet been implemented.

You can read the memo HERE.

Source: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/potus-obama-hal.html

Call Me Jimmy

I really think black people voted for him because he's black and white people voted for him to rid their guilt about the slavery of his people.

brendansmith

Because when all hope is gone, the hopeful become the hopeless and hope becomes hopeless for the hopeful.

Hopefully this will help I hope.

brendansmith

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I really think black people voted for him because he's black and white people voted for him to rid their guilt about the slavery of his people.

Plus also if skeletor got elected he would have used his new power for evil

Biggins

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I really think black people voted for him because he's black and white people voted for him to rid their guilt about the slavery of his people.

Crikey, thats a hell of a generalisation.

Sorry but I disagree. In this day and age of folk worrying about their home, medical bills, children's education, job security etc I suspect they have moved on from the way outdated modes of thinking you possess.
I think most see him as a possible start of future solutions to their worries. A hope for the future...

Steve.Pseudonym

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I really think black people voted for him because he's black and white people voted for him to rid their guilt about the slavery of his people.

There's probably an element of that, but I'd say he mostly won on his own merits. He clearly came across as the best candidate from the primaries onwards, he's charismatic, intelligent and appears genuine. I don't know how things will turn out for him, but I wish him the best of luck.

BraziliaNZ

Because white people are afraid that if they don’t like him that they will be called racist

DublinWriter

Meh, because people got tired of the puppet on the right-hand and favoured seeing a new puppet appear on the left-hand.

The_B_Man

Coz, according to this really "in the know" political guru that i read an article on, they elected bush coz they knew he'd be crap, and then made him look crapper, so the next president would look super cool after him. thats why people think obama rocks and gives hope.

gino85

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I really think black people voted for him because he's black and white people voted for him to rid their guilt about the slavery of his people.

slavery of his people?, his mother was white and his father was actually from africa

saying that though he cant actually do worse than bush and seems alot more intelligent

Biggins

The_B_Man wrote: »

Coz, according to this really "in the know" political guru that i read an article on, they elected bush coz they knew he'd be crap, and then made him look crapper, so the next president would look super cool after him. thats why people think obama rocks and gives hope.

Surely that belongs in the conspiracy section? Thats like saying a person/group organised it that we elected Fianna Fail so that in the end Fianna Gael could get in!

Please!!!! :rolleyes:

4zn76tysfajdxp

Biggins wrote: »

Surely that belongs in the conspiracy section? Thats like saying a person/group organised it that we elected Fianna Fail so that in the end Fianna Gael could get in!

Please!!!! :rolleyes:

Yeah! What a ludicrous notion!

*Over-the-top, unconvincing laughter*

javaboy

Imo it's far more believable that FF deliberately screwed up their budget to expedite a general election so that FG would be in power for the duration of the recession and the sheeple would come to associate FG with the BAD TIMES.

Sam Vimes

javaboy wrote: »

Imo it's far more believable that FF deliberately screwed up their budget to expedite a general election so that FG would be in power for the duration of the recession and the sheeple would come to associate FG with the BAD TIMES.

it was very lucky for bertie that he got out just as this whole recession started. very nice for him.

i'm actually glad that FF won just so they can't blame the current problems on FG

4zn76tysfajdxp

javaboy wrote: »

Imo it's far more believable that FF deliberately screwed up their budget to expedite a general election so that FG would be in power for the duration of the recession and the sheeple would come to associate FG with the BAD TIMES.

Justin Lee Collins for Taoiseach: good times!

not yet

Hate to piss on your chips folks, but there is a part in the new testement that says the devil will rise in the west to become the most powerful man on earth, starting a war between brothers etc etc.....

Ha Ha just thought I'd dampen down all the giddyness out there..

Rob_l

not yet wrote: »

Hate to piss on your chips folks, but there is a part in the new testement that says the devil will rise in the west to become the most powerful man on earth, starting a war between brothers etc etc.....

Ha Ha just thought I'd dampen down all the giddyness out there..

so it was never a choice of connaught or hell they are both the same place is what you are saying? :eek:

I always knew they were evil out there