Valkyrie

SpitfireIV

Just seen the trailer for this movie, its in cinema's Friday.

Based on actual events, a plot to assassinate Hitler is unfurled during the height of WWII.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0985699/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBxK3frsbxA

Looks like a decent movie, except for two gripes I have, the first being that Tom Cruise is the main character and second, that its in English (the language is a big big gripe of mine!) for some reason I'd have a lot more respect for this movie had it been in German. The trailer seems typical, over blown, edge of the seat Hollywood (I was waiting to see someone running from a burning car before it blew up to be honest!).

Whats the concensus? Anyone rushing out to see this movie or will it just be one of those flicks that you'll see if there's nothing else on?

todolist

Not much tension watching this....I think we all know the Fuhrer got away.Oopss...just gave away the ending:D

bikki

Not a Tom Cruise fan,

At a press conference for the film he actually said he grew up wanting to kill Hitler and that he studied wwII history and document from the era. But then in the same breath admited he never knew there where assissnation atempts on Hitler intill he read the script.

:rolleyes:

Even i knew of this plot from history class's in school.

FuttBucker

i hate tom cruise but shall go see it anyway, this was the closest to being successful out of all the assassination attempts on hitler i believe so should be good

old boy

i was in n.y for christmas, and this was slated by the critics on tv. reviews were bad, and it was not expected to do well at the box office.

Illkillya

I saw this a couple of weeks ago... interesting story, and some nice history bits (like seeing Hitler's residence in the mountains, assuming it was filmed on location). Good tension at times. They went a bit too far with the "we have to show the world that we weren't all like him". I enjoyed it overall, but Tom Cruise was completely wrong for the lead role.

Savman

Illkillya wrote: »

Tom Cruise was completely wrong for the lead role.

I've been thinking that everytime the trailer comes on, I'm waiting for him to whip off the eye patch to reveal some hi-tech MI5 laser guided missile contraption :pac:

FionnMatthew

Apart from Cruise, it's quite a respectable cast!

Looks like overblown nonsense though.

It looks like it's torn between the depiction of the Nazis you get in Indiana Jones, and the depiction you get of them in Downfall.

One or other would be acceptable, but I can't see it as credible if the Nazis are Indy Nazis, and I can't just enjoy it as fun if it's trying to be credible.

Might give it a miss. Or just wait and see.

SpitfireIV

I'll probably catch it at some point myself............just so I can see how bad it is of course! :pac:

Speaking of war movies, anyone seen 'The Counterfeiters'? just watched it tonight, very enjoyable movie!!

speedboatchase

Has a good average on Rotten Tomatoes and did well in the U.S, if you can seperate the man and the actor Cruise has given us some great films so I have hope

FionnMatthew

speedboatchase wrote: »

if you can seperate the man and the actor

In his case I don't think I can.

senordingdong

They could have atleast tried German accents.

lostexpectation

how much was about these guys wanting to take over instead?

SpitfireIV

lostexpectation wrote: »

how much was about these guys wanting to take over instead?

Does that matter? Who would you rather have in control? Hitler or Tom Cruise......seriously?! :P

senordingdong

Scientology for all?

Hmmm....I wonder if Tom Cruise can make the trains run on time?

Mr.Applepie

Illkillya wrote: »

I saw this a couple of weeks ago... interesting story, and some nice history bits (like seeing Hitler's residence in the mountains, assuming it was filmed on location).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehlsteinhaus

There are amazing views from up there

ekevosu

I watched the 6 minutes of the start released on apple trailers (www.apple.com/trailers) and it looks like it could be a good movie.

As for the OP's comment about the film not being in German - for the mainstream movie going public, they don't want to go to see a movie and have to read subtitles. I don't mind them at all but one of my housemates refuses to watch movies with subtitles. From what I saw of the start, they start off the movie speaking German and slowly drift into English.

Quint

Yeah, but not even German accents? I heard that all the good guys (the good ss members:rolleyes:) have english and american accents, and the bad guys have german ones.

TinCool

I'm off to the flicks to see it tonight. Just gonna sit back and eat my pop corn and enjoy it.

Running Bing

Quint wrote: »

Yeah, but not even German accents? I heard that all the good guys (the good ss members:rolleyes:) have english and american accents, and the bad guys have german ones.

Ha, I was thinking myself watching the trailer it would'nt be a very hard plot to rumble...just look for the lads who sound like they grew up in North Dakota.


This is a major gripe of mine....why are they speaking with American accents? same with Enemy at the gates. Its supposed to be Soviet Russia and they all sound like they just stepped of the set of great expectations.

Quint

I heard a clip of it on the radio and thought Tom Cruise played an american undercover or something. When I heard he was actually supposed to be german I almost shat my pants laughing! Maybe he's afraid of doing accents ever since he was ripped into for Far and Away

mike65

Babybing wrote: »

This is a major gripe of mine....why are they speaking with American accents? same with Enemy at the gates. Its supposed to be Soviet Russia and they all sound like they just stepped of the set of great expectations.

Ed Harris? (what the) Dickens?

Mossy Monk

Looking past the accents I really enjoyed it. One other problem I had was that Hitler sounded like a pussy. Nothing like what you hear in the old news reels.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Cruise and the director have said in interviews that they felt that if they weren't going to speak German it didn't make a bit of sense to just speak English in a German accent, and they thought it would just distract viewers or something...apparently they were wrong. :P
I reckong I'll probably go see this. Cruise is a muppet but he's well capable of being a very good actor, and the rest of the cast is pretty solid. It seems like it's much better than people were expecting it to be, though the trailer is a bit cringey...

321654

I thought this was a good watch.
All of the actors, including cruise did a good job.

I read a lot of reviews by critics who couldnt possibly have seen the movoe when they wrote the reviews. I hate that.

Maskhadov

quite interesting plot at the beginning but levels out near the end. Still very watchable.

robgordon

I don't get all the Tom Cruise hate. He's a fine actor, I think. This was a good movie as well

Lamper.sffc

robgordon wrote: »

I don't get all the Tom Cruise hate. He's a fine actor, I think. This was a good movie as well

Regardless of who tom cruise is. ( an As*hole by the way) It doesnt mean he is suddenly a bad actor. It just means its harder to stomach him in a movie regardless of acting ability.

PS. The man represents true evil, no question.

Thrill

It's getting some good reviews. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/mhsngbauqlkf/

SpitfireIV

Well, just back from seeing this movie!

What did I think? Well...........I'm almost ashamed to say that I actually thought it was a pretty decent movie! I did enjoy it. Ok, there is that issue of the language and I found it slightly odd that there were British, American and German actors all dressed as Germans, but talking in there native accents, it was odd, but, in saying that I think the begininning of the movie was well done!

The name of the movie is presented in German 'Walküre' and then turns into English 'Valkyrie', then for the first few minutes we hear Cruises character talking and writing in German, then it blends into English, I thought that was well done and sort of made the language somewhat bearable as if it was a German movie transformed into English :cool:

I did find the Hitler character rather odd, he had a really strange accent, didnt sound 'very' German at all, they should have got Bruno Ganz to do the job again :P

The movie does take a little while to get going, all the different characters etc have to be built up and such before it gets to the assination attempt and the aftermath, but once it gets going I found it pretty tense in places (even though I and I'd imagine most people were aware of the outcome!)

Certainly not a great, epic movie, but then not bad either!

mikemac

Thrill wrote: »

It's getting some good reviews. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/mhsngbauqlkf/

I'd read that and the others on that page and RTE gave 5/5 to five of the six films.

Either it's a fantastic week for films or RTE are easily impressed