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Dublin Bus cuts 290 jobs and 10% of fleet

  • 16-01-2009 3:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭


    who's next ???? hosptals , Fire Brigade , superman ???


    (article below taken from rte.ie)

    290 jobs are to go at Dublin Bus as part of a series of cost-cutting measures.


    Dublin Bus is also withdrawing 120 buses, which is 10% of its fleet.

    It said no routes will be removed, but some services would be amalgamated and that the frequency of buses would be adjusted in some areas.

    AdvertisementThe new plans are due to come into effect in March and Dublin Bus said it will be informing the public about the changes.

    The 290 job losses will happen across all grades at Dublin Bus and 160 of these will be compulsory redundancies.


    But the NBRU and SIPTU have said they will oppose any compulsory redundancies and work to protect jobs.


    The unions said they will consider these and other cost-cutting proposals in the coming days.

    A similar meeting between management and unions at Bus Éireann is due to take place on Tuesday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭Draupnir


    They put the bus up by 10 cent last week, now they are cutting the service? Christ on a bike.

    Dublin Bus need to stop chasing private bus companies out of business so we can all get to places on time rather than randomly standing in the street for a service where timetables do not exist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    Draupnir wrote: »
    Christ on a bike.

    {CHORTLE]

    Amazing how they didn't announce this before they jacked up the prices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Wonder will the other bus services be affected, like bus eireann.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    I did some work for Dublin Bus on behalf of a client and I had reason to be in the Broadstone station to do some work on a bus. I couldn't get over what I saw when I was working there, mechanics with buses on lifts about 2 feet off the ground and asleep on a creaper board under the bus listening to a walkman!

    I also saw what looked to me like lads gathering together for an hour at a time to talk about what looked like "union business", with loads of talk like, "No, we're not agreeing to this and we're not doing that"...

    I'm not surprised they are losing big money, a private business with the same set up that was not being breastfed by the state would have gone t*ts up long ago...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    Wonder will the other bus services be affected, like bus eireann.

    With any luck they'll just cut all services to Tallaght.
    That'll solve a few problems.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 995 ✭✭✭Ass


    Dublin bus is a disgrace. They should get Michael O'Leary to run it. He'll sort the fuckers out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭deleriumtremens


    Dublin bus can suck me wavin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    Hopefully this'll scare the remaining employees into being some what customer friendly i.e. not total pricks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i hope that old baldy twat that drives the 45 is one of the first to go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Of course the govt arent hoping if they keep pulling s**t like this that we'll all get pissed off and buy lovely taxable cars...sure not at all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭nevaeh-2die-4


    What they need to do is stop replacing smashed bus shelters.
    Once its smashed fook it, that’s it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    i hope that old baldy twat that drives the 45 is one of the first to go

    has he got a little beard and beady glasses?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Bambi wrote: »
    has he got a little beard and beady glasses?

    last time i saw the little twat he had a grey goaty and tinted glasses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Sounds like the exact same one who works the 13/A. A universally despised ignorant little bollix. If they sacked him they'd probably turn the company around


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    Draupnir wrote: »
    They put the bus up by 10 cent last week, now they are cutting the service? Christ on a bike.

    Dublin Bus need to stop chasing private bus companies out of business so we can all get to places on time rather than randomly standing in the street for a service where timetables do not exist.

    Well said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    Dublin bus is like a mob {unions} run company.
    I guy I used to drink with know of about 6-7 people who would arrive to the depot, clock-in and then go to the pub for the day and get either come back pissed as hell and clock-out or if they can't walk or be arsed they'd get a friend to clock-out for them.

    So they were been paid for ~ 40 hours normal pay and 5-10 hours over time, for doing no work at all......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Bambi wrote: »
    Sounds like the exact same one who works the 13/A. A universally despised ignorant little bollix. If they sacked him they'd probably turn the company around
    If it's the guy I'm thinking it is, wanker.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    the little arsehole accused me of robbing one morning. i was getting on the 45 in blackrock main street to go to deans grange cross roads and put €1 in. he asked me where i was going and i told him, he then says 'its €1.50 you thief, ive had enough of people like you robbing CIE'. i paid the €1.50 and sat down more embarrased than angry. even if the fare was €1.50 he didnt have to make a show of me on front of a busy bus. little bollox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    What are the unions going to do?

    I feel sorry for the guys who will lose their jobs but I really really hope no strikes will be called.


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    the little arsehole accused me of robbing one morning. i was getting on the 45 in blackrock main street to go to deans grange cross roads and put €1 in. he asked me where i was going and i told him, he then says 'its €1.50 you thief, ive had enough of people like you robbing CIE'. i paid the €1.50 and sat down more embarrased than angry. even if the fare was €1.50 he didnt have to make a show of me on front of a busy bus. little bollox


    In all fairness that kind of irks me too when people don't pay the correct fair. "That's 1.50" would have sufficed though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    In all fairness that kind of irks me too when people don't pay the correct fair. "That's 1.50" would have sufficed though.

    oh it wrecks my head too, its just that every other driver accepted €1 so i assumed that was the fare


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    There was this Brian Cowen lookalike who used to drive the 25A out by Palmerstown and hated everyone who got on the bus. He tormened students for years. One day a foreign national got on the bus and he abused this passenger, calling him a "nig nog" and racially abusing him...

    The rest is history!

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2000/0922/hatred.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    What are the unions going to do?

    I feel sorry for the guys who will lose their jobs but I really really hope no strikes will be called.

    I think we need a few strikes to wake people up a bit!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    As long as the bald moustach'd 49 driver isn't effected. If anyone else gets this bus you'll know what I mean. Tallaght to town via EVERYWHERE, but still manages to get you to town in less than 15 minutes
    Domo230 wrote: »
    FFS they need to create more buses and routes, not cut some of the ones they already have.

    They need to cut the 46a. Waiting for a buses all I see is the ****ing 46A. Every 30 ****ing seconds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Domo230 wrote: »
    FFS they need to create more buses and routes, not cut some of the ones they already have.

    If they let the market look after itself, the government wouldn't have to capitalise the fleet and everything that comes with it. This company is another example of the cosy semi-state operations where the normal rules of business don't apply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    Leave the 46A alone. If they cut that then all I can get is a 46C, 746, 145, 63 or 84 :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I emplore thee to save Ray of 75/111 fame.

    Nicest Man Ever!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Seifer wrote: »
    Leave the 46A alone. If they cut that then all I can get is a 46C, 746, 145, 63 or 84 :pac:

    Don't forget the occasional 3 that somehow unexplicably ends up on that route:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    They wont cut the profitable routes. So all the toffs who get the 46A rest easy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Tom65


    They announce this the day after the RSA have said newly qualified drivers might have their driving rights curbing, along with new rules for learner drivers. And a couple of weeks after putting the fares up.
    Add to that the awful state of cycle lanes.

    I think everyone should just walk. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Hopefully Dublin Bus, and every other government organisation getting pay cuts/job losses go on strike simultaneously. Mayhem ensues!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    They wont cut the profitable routes. So all the toffs who get the 46A rest easy.
    Would be a bit silly if they did I suppose.
    Better off cutting the routes where the passengers cause hundreds of euro worth of damage on the buses and only pay schoolchild fare despite never going to school.
    I drive to college most of the time now anyway so I'm not too worried.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    They should bring back those little yellow IMP buses - zooming around corners with passengers falling off the seats - full of pensioners with their free travel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    How are they in trouble? I bet they are not, just want to maximise profits. If anything the busses are getting busier.

    Problem with this recession. Companies have being making profits in the millions, if not billions. Since they are so used to this great profit, when there's a recession and they only make 60% of their normal profits, they panic and start making cuts left right and centre to keep their profits up high. I have no doubt in my mind that this was not needed, same with most redundancies. It's poxy, lets burn the government... burn them all. Bastards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,373 ✭✭✭ongarite


    How are they in trouble? I bet they are not, just want to maximise profits. If anything the busses are getting busier.

    Don't generalise too much while your at it. Dublin Bus lost €10m last year and are projecting losses of €35m this year.
    The government scrapped the fuel rebate scheme that all bus operators, not just Dublin Bus, used to avail of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Oh I was talking about less people driving into town, using public transport a lot more than we used to. How the hell are they losing so much money? You rarely see an empty bus. It's not like the fares are cheap either. Rise in fuel costs and other overheads such as heating and lighting, possibly contribute, but I doubt it would be to the cost of 35 mil deficit. Am I wrong here? I am sure there were other ways to save the company a few pound, guess the easiest thing for managment to do is to cut jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Oh I was talking about less people driving into town, using public transport a lot more than we used to. How the hell are they losing so much money? You rarely see an empty bus. It's not like the fares are cheap either. Rise in fuel costs and other overheads such as heating and lighting, possibly contribute, but I doubt it would be to the cost of 35 mil deficit. Am I wrong here? I am sure there were other ways to save the company a few pound, guess the easiest thing for managment to do is to cut jobs.

    Oh just maybe the buying of buses, paying of staff, fixing buses, people not paying the correct fare.

    You never seen an empty bus because you probably only get on them at rush hour, I've been the only person on buses several times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭Seifer


    Oh I was talking about less people driving into town, using public transport a lot more than we used to. How the hell are they losing so much money? You rarely see an empty bus. It's not like the fares are cheap either. Rise in fuel costs and other overheads such as heating and lighting, possibly contribute, but I doubt it would be to the cost of 35 mil deficit. Am I wrong here? I am sure there were other ways to save the company a few pound, guess the easiest thing for managment to do is to cut jobs.

    You don't see empty buses at rush hour but outside those times there are buses doing their routes with hardly anyone on them.
    Vandalism costs them a load too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Oh just maybe the buying of buses, paying of staff, fixing buses, people not paying the correct fare.

    You never seen an empty bus because you probably only get on them at rush hour, I've been the only person on buses several times

    I gave an example, I didn't state that it was limited to them very few over heads.

    Paying the correct fare, surely this is a problem of the past? Can't see how people get away with it when the busman can clearly see what goes into the machine. That's a variable that can be fixed.

    No I rarely see an empty bus, unless it is out of service of course. In fact I see more times than a little that busses are over crowded and pass me... not good :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck



    Paying the correct fare, surely this is a problem of the past? Can't see how people get away with it when the busman can clearly see what goes into the machine. That's a variable that can be fixed.

    I know people who 18/19 and pay the school childs fair


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    BOFH_139 wrote: »
    Dublin bus is like a mob {unions} run company.
    I guy I used to drink with know of about 6-7 people who would arrive to the depot, clock-in and then go to the pub for the day and get either come back pissed as hell and clock-out or if they can't walk or be arsed they'd get a friend to clock-out for them.

    So they were been paid for ~ 40 hours normal pay and 5-10 hours over time, for doing no work at all......

    "Another guy guy I used to drink with, his dog that used to drive the buses and get full sick pay when he had a batch of puppies."

    Sounds like management at Dublin Bus needs to be shaken up if that was the case - but I tend not to believe stories from 'a guy, who knew a guy he used to drink with'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,335 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    the little arsehole accused me of robbing one morning. i was getting on the 45 in blackrock main street to go to deans grange cross roads and put €1 in. he asked me where i was going and i told him, he then says 'its €1.50 you thief, ive had enough of people like you robbing CIE'. i paid the €1.50 and sat down more embarrased than angry. even if the fare was €1.50 he didnt have to make a show of me on front of a busy bus. little bollox

    Did yea lodge a complaint against him? I would guess yea didn't bother right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions


    Are the government supposed to be trying to convince people to get out of their cars and onto public tansport? Did they not set a target of reducing carbon emmissions by 3% per year until 2012? Did i hear that the government where planning for certain parts of the city centre to be car free in the near future?

    Fook me, how shambolic do they have to become before we say enough?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭blahblahblah.


    BOFH_139 wrote: »
    Dublin bus is like a mob {unions} run company.
    I guy I used to drink with know of about 6-7 people who would arrive to the depot, clock-in and then go to the pub for the day and get either come back pissed as hell and clock-out or if they can't walk or be arsed they'd get a friend to clock-out for them.

    thats souds like the 44 standing around for hours and no bus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭lisbon_lions


    kerbdog wrote: »
    Did yea lodge a complaint against him? I would guess yea didn't bother right?

    Dublin Bus / lodge a complaint? What a joke - were you serious when you asked that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Oisinjm


    I would have thought with the recession more people would be taking the bus :S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭AMIIAM


    That sounds like Ruari qquinn to me!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    I wonder what will happen to the endangered 84 bus route. Only two have been spotted in their natural habitat since 1996.

    There should be a disclaimer at the end of the timetables saying *bus times & routes are hypothetical, may not actually exist*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    peasants and their public transport...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,245 ✭✭✭psycho-hope


    ah the 84 it might turn up it might not and sure if the mood takes the driver he might leave early:rolleyes:


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