Eircom official:Music piracy 'good for rock stars'!

gurramok

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0115/breaking81.htm

Quite an eye-opener:cool:.

Think i'll forgive Eircom aka Eircon for past evildoings like expensive dial-up/broadband on these comments

McDowell defending the record labels, remember him in his glorious days as Minister for Justice?

An Eircom official told colleagues they should think of music piracy as ‘sharing’ and “helping the health and good living of rich cocaine sniffing rock stars by leaving them with less free money to spend on sex and drugs”, the High Court heard today.
*snip*
He read an email from Eircom’s head of Internet Protocol, Denis Curran, of January 2001, which suggested “the MP3 piracy issue” be on the agenda of the next management meeting.

“We need to reach a decision on how we are going to handle this,” the email said. “PS ‘piracy’ is a loaded term. Could we say ‘sharing‘- ‘piracy’ implies there’s something wrong with it.
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“Think of it as helping the health and good living of rich cocaine sniffing rock stars by leaving them with less free money to spend on sex and drugs.”

Mr McDowell said Eircom was also this week advertising its broadband packages on a website, Pirate Bay, which was being prosecuted in Sweden over alleged large scale illegal music piracy.

galwayrush

HAHAHAH. Only applies to older real rock stars. Modern rock / pop lite ****e performers / mime artists would be wasted on a single bottle of buckfast.

samhail

breaking news of what some eircom guy said 8 years ago the time it takes to get to our ears !

gurramok

Struggling to think of modern rock stars if they exist

Louis Walsh a pioneer or rock stars?

I liked this bit in the article as just weird

Because of illegal downloading, the remuneration now going to recorded music had been reduced to “a trickle” with a very severe knock-on effect. Concerts and live performances were now the only source of income and records had lost their value almost completely.

Now, i never knew that the labels got/get huge sums of revenue from concerts as concerts were where the real money was earned by the artists.

Biggins

Ok - own up!

Who's been downloading wee Daniel O'Donnell???
...and how can we cure your pain?

Who are the rock stars anyway?
Pebbles, The Rolling Stones...???

gurramok

Danny snorts coke?

It might explain those high notes at times:)

Nick_oliveri

I take back all the **** ive ever said about them, seriously, this is amazing and i think the big 4 can go **** themselves. One critisism i have though, Artists never got the "trickle" from their album sales in the first place, they got the smallest percentage, and that was that. Record companies have been riding artists for years.

Wagon

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

I take back all the **** ive ever said about them, seriously, this is amazing and i think the big 4 can go **** themselves. One critisism i have though, Artists never got the "trickle" from their album sales in the first place, they got the smallest percentage, and that was that. Record companies have been riding artists for years.

Yep. Don't even bother going for a record deal.

1) Form a band.
2) Write some music, keep writing at your own pace and be as creative as you want to be
3) Get a mate who's intereted to manage your band,
4) Get some gigs locally.
5) Get your other mate do do up a website.
6) Keep playing.
7) Get more of your mates to be roadies.
8) You'll make no money but it'll be fun!

Terry

If you're half decent you can earn money by playing live.
**** the record companies.

Toiletroll

gurramok wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0115/breaking81.htm

Quite an eye-opener:cool:.

Think i'll forgive Eircom aka Eircon for past evildoings like expensive dial-up/broadband on these comments

McDowell defending the record labels, remember him in his glorious days as Minister for Justice?

OK - Eircom, I may very well come back to you in the future after this one!

Nick_oliveri

Seriously though, implement software that will stop it...lol.

Come off it, go back and harrass your own ISP's......GTFO

Nick_oliveri

Mr McDowell said Eircom was also this week advertising its broadband packages on a website, Pirate Bay, which was being prosecuted in Sweden over alleged large scale illegal music piracy.

Just noticed this, google ads? Mcdowell can use internets?

galwayrush

It would still take the average Eircom user a week to download an album in modern Ireland.:rolleyes:

lostexpectation

Record companies settle action against Eircom
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhsngbqlmhau/
the companies said they had agreed a joint approach under which they will work closely together to end the abuse of the internet by copyright infringers.

Eircom said it will warn the subscriber that unless the infringement ceases, the subscriber will be disconnected.

await the details of this

TheZohanS

gurramok wrote: »

Danny snorts coke?

It might explain those high notes at times:)

I'd say you're one letter out there.:)

The guy

This might make up for the crappy broadband packages.

Biggins

The guy wrote: »

This might make up for the crappy broadband packages.

...and their rip-off prices. Click here and compare! :eek:

old boy

[QUOTE=Nick_oliveri Record companies have been riding artists for years.[/QUOTE]

not naming anyone BUT theres a few i wouldnt mind riding myself, them record companys have all the joy

ejmaztec

That must mean that Eircom won't mind not charging us for uploading and downloading voices on our landlines.

The guy

Biggins wrote: »

...and their rip-off prices. Click here and compare! :eek:

Don't forget NTL

€42 for 24mb, that is nice.

CreepingDeath

Just seen this story on the RTE News.

The music industry is to supply the IP addresses of music uploaders and downloaders. Eircom then sends out a warning notice, and if they fails to stop them, then they'll disconnect the user.

Feck, I'd better do any downloading I want before this hits NTL !

Oh yeah, I'm sure a load of people will now downgrade there superfast broadband connections if they're not going to be using bittorrent 24-7 from now on !

yoyo

Stay away from public P2P networks and you be fine :pac:

Nick

Deliverance XXV

lostexpectation wrote: »

Record companies settle action against Eircom
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhsngbqlmhau/
the companies said they had agreed a joint approach under which they will work closely together to end the abuse of the internet by copyright infringers.

Eircom said it will warn the subscriber that unless the infringement ceases, the subscriber will be disconnected.

await the details of this

Yup! It's on the €ircom website now.

http://news.eircom.net/breakingnews/general/14837500/?view=Standard

To be honest I never thought i'd see €ircom crack?

Eric Cartman

everyone to rapid$hare

The guy

yoyo wrote: »

Stay away from public P2P networks and you be fine :pac:

Nick

You don't happen to have a demonoid or what.cd invite do you?

yoyo

The guy wrote: »

You don't happen to have a demonoid or what.cd invite do you?

Dont use torrents full stop :pac: , although the private sites will probably be safer if users wish to use torrents :P

Nick

The guy

yoyo wrote: »

Dont use torrents full stop :pac: , although the private sites will probably be safer if users wish to use torrents :P

Nick

Ah, Peer Guardian is fine for me.

Dunder Mifflin

Ha

BaconZombie

Haha the Irony ....

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0128/download_av.html

pakblue

Just encrypt your torrents
http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-encrypt-BitTorrent-traffic/

Run_to_da_hills

This is just the start of "Big Brother" policing the net with automated search robots, next it will be censorship.

CreepingDeath

pakblue wrote: »

Just encrypt your torrents
http://torrentfreak.com/how-to-encrypt-BitTorrent-traffic/

That might protect you from the ISP, not the music industry.

I "imagine" the music industry has a custom bittorrent client.
They search for torrents of their music files and download them, all the time logging all the IP addresses of those they connect too. (encrypted or not) Then they can log who is seeding and who is downloading.

Encryption just stops an ISP from working out what your network traffic is (torrent traffic), it doesn't stop a valid torrent client program from connecting and giving the game away.
Anyways, it would be fairly obvious to an ISP what you were doing based on your download stats from the month, eg. 30Gb usage.

PeerGuardian sounds okay, it stops known IP address ranges of anti-P2P organisations from connecting to your bittorrent client.
But there's nothing stopping those people from using their home connections.

Anyways, I'm just saying neither encryption nor Peer Guardian 2 are 100% protection.

rayhartjnr

if you used zippyshare rapidshare etc could they find out?

Biggins

rayhartjnr wrote: »

if you used zippyshare rapidshare etc could they find out?

The music industry so far has tried to take on Rapidshare in Germany and so far have proved unsuccessful. Rapidshare just move their servers out of the legal empowered countries.
As for they also having a direct go at Rapidshare users, I have seen no cases so far but others might correct me on this (and are welcome to, if only for my own "wanting to know too" reasons).

Stev_o

I very much doubt anything will change people have been downloading for years i doubt they will go on a mass spree of disconnections especially during the oncoming recession. Plus what's to stop anyone from just changing over once you get disconnected?

Cool Mo D

CreepingDeath wrote: »

That might protect you from the ISP, not the music industry.

I "imagine" the music industry has a custom bittorrent client.
They search for torrents of their music files and download them, all the time logging all the IP addresses of those they connect too. (encrypted or not) Then they can log who is seeding and who is downloading.

Encryption just stops an ISP from working out what your network traffic is (torrent traffic), it doesn't stop a valid torrent client program from connecting and giving the game away.
Anyways, it would be fairly obvious to an ISP what you were doing based on your download stats from the month, eg. 30Gb usage.

PeerGuardian sounds okay, it stops known IP address ranges of anti-P2P organisations from connecting to your bittorrent client.
But there's nothing stopping those people from using their home connections.

Anyways, I'm just saying neither encryption nor Peer Guardian 2 are 100% protection.

Encrypting your torrent is completely worthless if the tracker your using (assuming it's bittorent) is run by the record companies - a tactic they apparently commonly use.

Donald-Duck

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

This is just the start of "Big Brother" policing the net with automated search robots, next it will be censorship.

You're still full of crap. They are perfectly entitled to set their own rules and regulations ON THEIR SERVICE. The same reason you don't get to demand the bus stops at the exact location you want unless it has a bus stop there. You don't even know how your super magic search robots work. As you showed clearly a few weeks ago in another post where you claimed encryption was easily cracked as well.