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Can deaf people "hear" themselves think?

  • 14-01-2009 6:47pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Show_me_Safety


    I've often wondered this but if somebody was born deaf, and has never heard a sound or the english language then how can they hear thoughts in their head?

    I suppose the same could be said for people who are blind.

    I'm very interested to find out.

    Any ideads are welcome, or better if somebody who is deaf could clarify this for me!

    thanks a million
    SmS

    :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    I always wondered this too kinda.
    My question was always since we think in english, what does someone both deaf & dumb think in.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Yeah I have 2 questions to add to the confusion:

    a) do blind people dream?
    b) If you threw a flashbang into a room full of blind & deaf people, would it have any effect??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Cmol



    I suppose the same could be said for people who are blind.

    I would assume blind people wouldnt have a problem hearing thoughts in their head... what with being able to speak and all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    There deaf not brain dead. Sure when you hear your thoughts your not actually using your ears.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Yeah I have 2 questions to add to the confusion:

    a) do blind people dream?
    b) If you threw a flashbang into a room full of blind & deaf people, would it have any effect??

    A) of course.
    B) They feel the sudden change of air pressure alone exploding outwards from the device.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Vain wrote: »
    There deaf not brain dead. Sure when you hear your thoughts your not actually using your ears.
    But if youve been deaf since birth and youve never heard a voice do you have an internal one:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    can blind people get blind drunk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    can blind people get blind drunk?
    nope.deaf drunk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,309 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Vain wrote: »
    There deaf not brain dead. Sure when you hear your thoughts your not actually using your ears.
    Yea but you are talking to yourself in English. If they never heard English what way are they thinking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I honestly don't know.:rolleyes:


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    so weird.. how do they construct thoughts without a language?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    This topic is way too serious for after hours:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    But if youve been deaf since birth and youve never heard a voice do you have an internal one:confused:

    Of course and I would imagine so .Being deaf doesnt mean your other sensory perceptions, like thoughts are affected .Just like singing along to a tune in your head like '' I can hear music ,sweet sweet music '' . :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    I've often wondered this but if somebody was born deaf, and has never heard a sound or the english language then how can they hear thoughts in their head?
    :)

    I would imagine they would have learned to sign.
    So , their thoughts would be in sign.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Show_me_Safety


    but i dont understand!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Wait, thinking in English? Do you never think without using words?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    can blind people get blind drunk?

    Sure they can , but I'd say they'd get some stick for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    I'm awfully befuddled! To thee humanities forum with this thread! Hurrah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Davidius wrote: »
    Wait, thinking in English? Do you never think without using words?
    I do but when im trying to figure somethin out im usually explaining it to myself in my own head


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    What if the voices in your head started talking to you in spanish then?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Vain wrote: »
    This topic is way too serious for after hours:D

    Definitely too serious for mid week, bring it back at the weekend when i'm pissed.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    DarkJager wrote: »
    What if the voices in your head started talking to you in spanish then?
    That's the ol possession ,a few paraectomol usually sorts it out .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    DarkJager wrote: »
    What if the voices in your head started talking to you in spanish then?

    Que?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    DarkJager wrote: »
    What if the voices in your head started talking to you in spanish then?
    Id be amazed and confused since I cant speak or understand spanish but im suddenly speaking it to myself


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 280 ✭✭Show_me_Safety


    DarkJager wrote: »
    What if the voices in your head started talking to you in spanish then?

    you can't suddenly begin thinking in spanish cos you don't know spanish!
    deaf people don't know english...so how can they think in it!!!??!?!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Id be amazed and confused since I cant speak or understand spanish but im suddenly speaking it to myself
    Like those people ,who sometimes never had a days schooling in their life ,they get a bang on the head and suddenly wake up speaking mid 14th century gothic lingo ,yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Its easy to speak spanish :rolleyes: Just put "el" before you say something, and add random o's onto the end of words e.g

    El threado is confusingo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Deaf people can read and write so while they probably don't think in the same sounds as a person with hearing I'm sure they think with the same words.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Onikage


    latchyco wrote: »
    Like those people ,who sometimes never had a days schooling in their life ,they get a bang on the head and suddenly wake up speaking mid 14th century gothic lingo ,yes.

    Most people can do that after a skinfull.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Its easy to speak spanish :rolleyes: Just put "el" before you say something, and add random o's onto the end of words e.g

    El threado is confusingo
    Like your average English/ Irish joe on holiday in spain .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    deaf people don't know english...so how can they think in it!!!??!?!?

    Yes they do, they read it and write it all the time I imagine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    I wonder is sex good for deaf people or could it be considered rape ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I wonder is sex good for deaf people or could it be considered rape ?
    Ah jeeze ,they already have lost one sense ,dont take away the other few pleasures they have left ...givem some slack .:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Is this like one of those Japanese Haiku's??? Like If a tree falls in a forrest and there is noone around to hear it, does it make a sound??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Is this like one of those Japanese Haiku's??? Like If a tree falls in a forrest and there is noone around to hear it, does it make a sound??
    What do you think ? I'm none the wiser .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    latchyco wrote: »
    What do you think ? I'm none the wiser .

    There's no answer, but if you think long enough about the question it will actually clear your head of all other thoughts - FACT! (No really, fact)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    DarkJager wrote: »
    There's no answer, but if you think long enough about the question it will actually clear your head of all other thoughts - FACT! (No really, fact)
    ooooooooooooo hes right:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    DarkJager wrote: »
    There's no answer, but if you think long enough about the question it will actually clear your head of all other thoughts - FACT! (No really, fact)
    Intresting .Suppose it's like asking if dogs ( who have much much better hearing than humans ) can hear a leaf fall from a tree ?

    David Carradine /Buddisim / silence springs to mind ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭falipo


    DarkJager wrote: »
    Yeah I have 2 questions to add to the confusion:

    a) do blind people dream?
    b) If you threw a flashbang into a room full of blind & deaf people, would it have any effect??

    Theres the whole flash too...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭samhail


    Biggins wrote: »
    B) They feel the sudden change of air pressure alone exploding outwards from the device.

    only thing is that changes in air pressure would be noticed by the ear drum... which in this case....
    though id say they would pick up on the vibrations alright through the ground.

    i would say that they would be able to comprehend - when we think we do only use words in our mind to try to explain what we are thinking ? so lets say if you wanted to think about getting to work you would say well i would jump into my car and go out the gate, rather than just seeing yourself do it.

    *ponders*


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    falipo wrote: »
    Theres the whole flash too...:rolleyes:

    Eh, they're blind???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Intresting for me in that although not deaf, I do suffer with tinnitus ,some days worse than others so appriciate silence when it's around .The problem for a lot of people ( including doctors and meidical people ) is deciding if the noise /ringing is coming from the ears or head area .

    EDIT -know this is not a thread about tinnitus ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭RonMexico


    A deaf person having a nightmare tries to warn another deaf person not to open the bag because it is a bomb but when they try to sign they suddenly realise they have no fingers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    RonMexico wrote: »
    A deaf person having a nightmare tries to warn another deaf person not to open the bag because it is a bomb but when they try to sign they suddenly realise they have no fingers.
    Did the bomb take their fingers? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    my mam and dad are deaf and to answer the OPs question yes the "hear" the thoughts in teir head the same as you or I "hear" those thoughts :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,432 ✭✭✭df1985


    i often wonder about blind people.what do they see in a sense-pitch black, bright white, random colours?? and if they dream, what do they dream.are they blind in their dreams or can they see things? im gettin into deep thought here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭gandhi123


    Where do blind people see themselves in a few years time????:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    gandhi123 wrote: »
    Where do blind people see themselves in a few years time????:confused:
    Darkness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Darkness

    Why would they be hanging with Eddie Murphy? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Would a blind man know if you made a pass at his girlfriend/ wife ?

    Better still would he mind ? ;)


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