Phoenix Rising III - The Nagorna-Karabakh Conflict - Spring 2009

fayer

FYI More to follow.

The next installment of the Phoenix Rising events is looking to take place during spring 2009. The venue is still to be determined but what we can tell you is that the event will be concentrating on the all out war being fought between Azerbaijan and Armenian over the the Nagorna-Karabakh region. More information coming soon....

Lemming

fayer wrote: »

FYI More to follow.

The next installment of the Phoenix Rising events is looking to take place during spring 2009. The venue is still to be determined but what we can tell you is that the event will be concentrating on the all out war being fought between Azerbaijan and Armenian over the the Nagorna-Karabakh region. More information coming soon....

The unconfirmed venue is Sennybridge as far as I'm aware

kdouglas

Awesome, I'll be there

Utreg

WooHoo! Can't wait for this. Missed the second part due to getting married. Couldnt convince the missus to have the honeymoon in Wales...

Masada

So from the lads that went to sennybridge the last time, Is it worth while to make the trip? what did you think of the location?

I personally would love to do copehill down from what ive heard about it but i havent been to either so im open.,

kdouglas

vtec wrote: »

So from the lads that went to sennybridge the last time, Is it worth while to make the trip? what did you think of the location?

I personally would love to do copehill down from what ive heard about it but i havent been to either so im open.,

Absolutely f*!^ing amazing.... definitely worth the trip. Sennybridge is great, no idea what Copehill is like though

Beast ASI

2nd what KD says, it's awesome :P

Lemming

I'll sort another info thread shortly. PM me whatever details you think are needed (for those who have been already)

gerrowadat

Basics from last time in Sennybridge (may not apply in different weather conditions).

- Place is a pain in the cacks to find in 10m visibility fog. Bring long-range PMR and scan for talkers, then ask.
- Goretex. You're up high enough that it's probably going to be in cloud cover, which soaks you worse than rain.
- You will be utterly useless without comms. Bring spares.
- Nearest decent-sized town is Brecon. Epic chinese. On nom.
- There was no power there last time, and buildings gave wind-chill cover, but not much else. Warm ****. Bedroll. Spare batteries.
- Chipper van saved my life. Scalding hot cups of tea at 0230 ftw.
- Don't do what I did and dehydrate yourself. Epic fail.

Travel tips:

- Best ferry is the seacat at 13:30 friday Dun Laoghaire->Holyhead, leisurely drive through wales, then the 14:30 slow boat from Fishguard-Rosslare on the sunday. It's about a 3 hour drive from holyhead, and less then 2 hours from Fishguard (note, figures above given for normal driving conditions, i.e. your granny isn't driving).
- Stena Line.
- You don't need to declare stuff to Stena in advance, just let the person know on the gate checking your ticket that you have firearms. Yes, I know they're not firearms, but explaining it takes longer, and all you want is for them to get harbour police. Harbour police will come have a look and wave you through after taking your names "in case the lads in wales give you hassle". Your man we talked to was sound enough.
- Have your invite letter/ticket in case cops in wales want to see it.
- It's not as mad of a drive as it looks on gmaps. Could probably even do it without stopping.

Masada

I'm in.,:)

defenderdude

vtec wrote: »

I'm in.,:)

Wot he said. Me too:)

Tommyboy71

I might be able to make this myself.

enviro

Sounds like going to war :cool: Id be interested, Im only starting out tho... Ill get skirmishing and build up my gear, ill see then. Places limited? any other info? considering some people reading this thread may not know much about this type of event, Cheers

fayer

enviro wrote: »

Sounds like going to war :cool: Id be interested, Im only starting out tho... Ill get skirmishing and build up my gear, ill see then. Places limited? any other info? considering some people reading this thread may not know much about this type of event, Cheers

You don't need to be special forces or anything close to it, as we saw last time. We don't claim to be elite by any means but because we understood the concept of team work we put as the first team called up when command "needed a job done"! Go Alpha 4-1 !

The main thing you need is the correct kit, not AEG's etc, outdoor clothing, sleeping bag, good boots etc. Watch the treads on this event their will be a essential kit list posted (many times prob), and don't hesitate to ask questions on what you are bringing.

enviro

Well if thats the type of thing it is..... I should be ok, Was a scout for years. Sounds really good. Are they large events? In terms of area and people.

fayer

You will love this then.

Big numbers, well split up into small squads, large site alright, 20+ buildings some 4 story and very big.

enviro

Deadly, ill keep my eye on this thread for updates.

Nemesis G.O.A

What's the fps by law over there?

Lemming

Nemesis G.O.A wrote: »

What's the fps by law over there?

Varies from site to site, but as a general rule of thumb *, 328fps + 10% deviancy



* For the love of god please check with the site in question

Nemesis G.O.A

Lol thanks,so same as here then,but check.

G3-Nut

lads im having serious trouble in finding decent radios for the team, any tips as i can use them for this event...i have no idea what to go for, cheers

kdouglas

Motorola XTN446

Could not recommend them more, brilliant radio, great quality build and great sound quality out of them too.

They are bit difficult to find now, but decent ones can be got on ebay for about 120-150 per handset, just gotta make sure you get the good ones with charger and battery etc...

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fConsumerElectronicsQ5fSpecialistRadioEquipmentQ5fSM?_nkw=xtn446&_sacat=0&_fromfsb=&_trksid=m270.l1313&_odkw=xtn+446&_osacat=0

There is also the replacement for the XTN446, which is the XTNi and XTNiD (think the XTNiD has a display and the XTNi doesnt)

gerrowadat

I've also got the motorola xtr446, which can be had off pixmania.ie, for 80 euro a pair. They also take takabout accessories, which are very easy to find.

G3-Nut

gerrowadat wrote: »

I've also got the motorola xtr446, which can be had off pixmania.ie, for 80 euro a pair. They also take takabout accessories, which are very easy to find.

does it come with a battery and charger? nice so that means i could fit a bowman headset to it as long as i get it in motorola 2 pin yea?

TheDoc

Count me in

Dates are looking like 4-6th of april i think.

I got an email from ian just forget what it said


I should be there though. Was impressed with the site last time I went, and from the experienced players over there, said that event wasnt near the best, so there might be much more.

Also being that the roles a re kinda switching, with azerbajan becoming the attacking force and armenia defending, we will have a nice opportunity to experience a different aspect.

I'm starting to stockpile on red bull already

This is gonna be epic.

Utreg

Lemming wrote: »

Varies from site to site, but as a general rule of thumb *, 328fps + 10% deviancy

These were the limits last time I went (PR1):

350fps AEG's, Shotguns & Pistols
400fps Sniper Rifles (Bolt action or Single-shot AEG) with a minimum engagement range of 25 metres.
500fps Sniper Rifles (Bolt action only) with a minimum engagement range of 25 metres.
(Just plucked it from http://www.ta-events.co.uk/phoenixrising/rules/ )

Although you dont want to get caught with any higher then as Lemming stated in Ireland as it would be illegal.

Utreg

And bring warm clothes + waterproofs, watch, torch.
When it gets dark in sennybridge, its very dark...

gerrowadat

G3-Nut wrote: »

does it come with a battery and charger? nice so that means i could fit a bowman headset to it as long as i get it in motorola 2 pin yea?

Yep, battery, charging station for both, and actually a wee in-ear headset for each, too.

No, it's motorola one-pin headset, for talkabout I got this throat mic for it, select the 'M6' connector : http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16635&cat=0&page=1

G3-Nut

bang on gerrout cheers

Lemming

Utreg wrote: »

And bring warm clothes + waterproofs, watch, torch.
When it gets dark in sennybridge, its very dark...

I'll get a white sheet and cut two holes in it and run around going "wooOOOoooo" when it gets dark then

Utreg

LOL! As like in Southpark when all the famous black stars started moving in...?:D

I added the wromng link earlier its http://www.ta-events.co.uk/events/phoenixrising/pr3/

Lemming

Utreg wrote: »

LOL! As like in Southpark when all the famous black stars started moving in...?:D

Not seen that episode, but I'll claim kudos anyway

Now, a qusetion to those who have been before;

To pig? or not to pig?

Renius

This event looks absolutely amazing! Ill have to start getting my load out sorted in preparation as i'm seriously considering heading over to this! when do tickets go on sale? And do you stay fighting into the night or does everything stop at the end of the day like a normal skirmish site?

OzCam

I'll go again, provided the weather is a bit better than last time. Heck, I might even go again if it's worse, now that we know what to expect.

We wrote down the lessons learned from PR2, they just need to be tidied up a bit. The main ones are:

• play as a team, not as individuals
• have better officers above
• bring GoreTex or other wet weather gear
• bring a camp bed to get you up off the wet floors
• don't take the same frelling building time after time after time

It will be great training for Berget.

Renius: Last time the game was scheduled to go on for 24 hours, but because of the weather and the fact that there were only 12 or so players still active, the marshals very sensibly suspended the game from 23:00 to 06:00. It resumed from 06:00 to 10:00 but a lot of players left early on Sunday morning, including us. I expect we'll do the same again because of the ferry times.

Lemming

OzCam (and/or others), how viable is soemthing as big and heavy as the M60 in Sennybridge?

Or to put another way, did you guys miss having support fire? or was it that urban (read: confined and tight) that it made little odds?

Spetzcong

Interesting, I think financial constraints permitting I'll attend this, sounds deadly.

OzCam

Lemming wrote: »

OzCam (and/or others), how viable is soemthing as big and heavy as the M60 in Sennybridge?

Or to put another way, did you guys miss having support fire? or was it that urban (read: confined and tight) that it made little odds?

IMO, and more experienced players may differ, is that an M60 will be very useful, but only with proper squad tactics. There are plenty of places to use it (like denying avenues of approach), and we will probably be attacking from the woods next time if the scenario is reversed. There is house clearance to be done but it's not the only thing.

DisasterIRL

Just wondering what the ammo restrictions are like, may have to purchase another gun if they are low, it's just way to easy for my gun to eat up the pellets

OzCam

For PR2 there was an ammo restriction of 600rd per person (2,000 for support gunners). You can resupply back up to the limit at the respawn points. You can carry any number of mags, but they have to be mid or low-cap.

Full details of the restrictions will be on the TA-events website nearer to the event, there's no point in clogging up the thread with questions until then.

TheDoc

Lemming, the M60 was sorely missed. There was some serious instances where we needed heavy fire but didnt have it.

Theres enough buildings,roads, ditches etc for it to be worthwhile brining.

Ozcam mentioned a few points, our CO was terrible and went missing all the time, nothing we can do about that.

And our units movement suffered.

So id advise, before you arrive, arrange with ian the respective sections and platoons, and get the people in charge beofre you get there.

If ian throws any others onto your team, they fall under the command.

Spetzcong

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

our CO was terrible and went missing all the time

Foxhole Norman?

"You look after things here sergeant, I'll go for uh... help.

gerrowadat

We could have done with a few more snipers, actually.

Sod'o swords

This is all the more reason to get my full licence...

Lemming

I'll be driving over for this one

fayer

[DM]-TheDOC- wrote: »

Ozcam mentioned a few points, our CO was terrible and went missing all the time, nothing we can do about that.

And our units movement suffered.

Lets just admit it, our CO legged it after 5 min of game play. Doc stood up and started barking orders (very well), as we had no comms to command (they were under what ever rock the CO was) Doc ran to the next building under fire to co-ordinate an attack on the pumping station which was a key turning point in the game.

I vote Doc for CO.

Renius

Right lads i'm pretty damn serious about heading over to this. How does it work teams wise? do you have to organise to be part of a team before you leave or do you just turn up and join a side?

OzCam

fayer wrote: »

Lets just admit it, our CO legged it after 5 min of game play.

And there was me, making the charitable assumption that he'd forgotten about us...

Yes, we need a few snipers. Scope & radio are as important as range.

The other thing is Ian will be our company commander at Berget. We need to do two things:
a) put your fingers in your ears when he shouts WAZZUP!
b) stick to him like sh!t to a blanket so we can get used to each other.

Most of the NATO ops in Berget will be on platoon or company scale, so we need to get used to operating as squads and above.

OzCam

Renius wrote: »

Right lads i'm pretty damn serious about heading over to this. How does it work teams wise? do you have to organise to be part of a team before you leave or do you just turn up and join a side?

Glad to have you.

No, you don't have to be part of a team before you go, though obviously it helps if you've played with people before.

Whether you'll be playing for the AZ side or the AR side depends on what camo options you have. Details will be on the TA website in due course.

kdouglas

OzCam wrote: »

Details will be on the TA website in due course.

They already are: http://ta-events.co.uk/events/phoenixrising/pr3/

OzCam

There is a wealth of information in the threads about PR2. There's no point in reposting this stuff until nearer the date. Lemming and I will no doubt be re-checking the logistics before then.

Enjoy. The Search engine is your friend.

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