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Phoenix Rising III - The Nagorna-Karabakh Conflict - Spring 2009

  • 13-01-2009 3:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭


    FYI More to follow.

    The next installment of the Phoenix Rising events is looking to take place during spring 2009. The venue is still to be determined but what we can tell you is that the event will be concentrating on the all out war being fought between Azerbaijan and Armenian over the the Nagorna-Karabakh region. More information coming soon....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    fayer wrote: »
    FYI More to follow.

    The next installment of the Phoenix Rising events is looking to take place during spring 2009. The venue is still to be determined but what we can tell you is that the event will be concentrating on the all out war being fought between Azerbaijan and Armenian over the the Nagorna-Karabakh region. More information coming soon....


    The unconfirmed venue is Sennybridge as far as I'm aware


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    Awesome, I'll be there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Utreg


    WooHoo! Can't wait for this. Missed the second part due to getting married. Couldnt convince the missus to have the honeymoon in Wales...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    So from the lads that went to sennybridge the last time, Is it worth while to make the trip? what did you think of the location?

    I personally would love to do copehill down from what ive heard about it but i havent been to either so im open.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    vtec wrote: »
    So from the lads that went to sennybridge the last time, Is it worth while to make the trip? what did you think of the location?

    I personally would love to do copehill down from what ive heard about it but i havent been to either so im open.,

    Absolutely f*!^ing amazing.... definitely worth the trip. Sennybridge is great, no idea what Copehill is like though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭Beast ASI


    2nd what KD says, it's awesome :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    I'll sort another info thread shortly. PM me whatever details you think are needed (for those who have been already)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭gerrowadat


    Basics from last time in Sennybridge (may not apply in different weather conditions).

    - Place is a pain in the cacks to find in 10m visibility fog. Bring long-range PMR and scan for talkers, then ask.
    - Goretex. You're up high enough that it's probably going to be in cloud cover, which soaks you worse than rain.
    - You will be utterly useless without comms. Bring spares.
    - Nearest decent-sized town is Brecon. Epic chinese. On nom.
    - There was no power there last time, and buildings gave wind-chill cover, but not much else. Warm ****. Bedroll. Spare batteries.
    - Chipper van saved my life. Scalding hot cups of tea at 0230 ftw.
    - Don't do what I did and dehydrate yourself. Epic fail.

    Travel tips:

    - Best ferry is the seacat at 13:30 friday Dun Laoghaire->Holyhead, leisurely drive through wales, then the 14:30 slow boat from Fishguard-Rosslare on the sunday. It's about a 3 hour drive from holyhead, and less then 2 hours from Fishguard (note, figures above given for normal driving conditions, i.e. your granny isn't driving).
    - Stena Line.
    - You don't need to declare stuff to Stena in advance, just let the person know on the gate checking your ticket that you have firearms. Yes, I know they're not firearms, but explaining it takes longer, and all you want is for them to get harbour police. Harbour police will come have a look and wave you through after taking your names "in case the lads in wales give you hassle". Your man we talked to was sound enough.
    - Have your invite letter/ticket in case cops in wales want to see it.
    - It's not as mad of a drive as it looks on gmaps. Could probably even do it without stopping.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    I'm in.,:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭defenderdude


    vtec wrote: »
    I'm in.,:)

    Wot he said. Me too:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭Tommyboy71


    I might be able to make this myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭enviro


    Sounds like going to war :cool: Id be interested, Im only starting out tho... Ill get skirmishing and build up my gear, ill see then. Places limited? any other info? considering some people reading this thread may not know much about this type of event, Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭fayer


    enviro wrote: »
    Sounds like going to war :cool: Id be interested, Im only starting out tho... Ill get skirmishing and build up my gear, ill see then. Places limited? any other info? considering some people reading this thread may not know much about this type of event, Cheers

    You don't need to be special forces or anything close to it, as we saw last time. We don't claim to be elite by any means but because we understood the concept of team work we put as the first team called up when command "needed a job done"! Go Alpha 4-1 !

    The main thing you need is the correct kit, not AEG's etc, outdoor clothing, sleeping bag, good boots etc. Watch the treads on this event their will be a essential kit list posted (many times prob), and don't hesitate to ask questions on what you are bringing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭enviro


    Well if thats the type of thing it is..... I should be ok, Was a scout for years. Sounds really good. Are they large events? In terms of area and people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭fayer


    You will love this then.

    Big numbers, well split up into small squads, large site alright, 20+ buildings some 4 story and very big.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭enviro


    Deadly, ill keep my eye on this thread for updates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Nemesis G.O.A


    What's the fps by law over there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    What's the fps by law over there?

    Varies from site to site, but as a general rule of thumb *, 328fps + 10% deviancy



    * For the love of god please check with the site in question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭Nemesis G.O.A


    Lol thanks,so same as here then,but check.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    lads im having serious trouble in finding decent radios for the team, any tips as i can use them for this event...i have no idea what to go for, cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    Motorola XTN446

    Could not recommend them more, brilliant radio, great quality build and great sound quality out of them too.

    They are bit difficult to find now, but decent ones can be got on ebay for about 120-150 per handset, just gotta make sure you get the good ones with charger and battery etc...

    http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fConsumerElectronicsQ5fSpecialistRadioEquipmentQ5fSM?_nkw=xtn446&_sacat=0&_fromfsb=&_trksid=m270.l1313&_odkw=xtn+446&_osacat=0

    There is also the replacement for the XTN446, which is the XTNi and XTNiD (think the XTNiD has a display and the XTNi doesnt)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭gerrowadat


    I've also got the motorola xtr446, which can be had off pixmania.ie, for 80 euro a pair. They also take takabout accessories, which are very easy to find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    gerrowadat wrote: »
    I've also got the motorola xtr446, which can be had off pixmania.ie, for 80 euro a pair. They also take takabout accessories, which are very easy to find.

    does it come with a battery and charger? nice so that means i could fit a bowman headset to it as long as i get it in motorola 2 pin yea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Count me in

    Dates are looking like 4-6th of april i think.

    I got an email from ian just forget what it said :)


    I should be there though. Was impressed with the site last time I went, and from the experienced players over there, said that event wasnt near the best, so there might be much more.

    Also being that the roles a re kinda switching, with azerbajan becoming the attacking force and armenia defending, we will have a nice opportunity to experience a different aspect.

    I'm starting to stockpile on red bull already

    This is gonna be epic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Utreg


    Lemming wrote: »
    Varies from site to site, but as a general rule of thumb *, 328fps + 10% deviancy

    These were the limits last time I went (PR1):

    350fps AEG's, Shotguns & Pistols
    400fps Sniper Rifles (Bolt action or Single-shot AEG) with a minimum engagement range of 25 metres.
    500fps Sniper Rifles (Bolt action only) with a minimum engagement range of 25 metres.
    (Just plucked it from http://www.ta-events.co.uk/phoenixrising/rules/ )

    Although you dont want to get caught with any higher then as Lemming stated in Ireland as it would be illegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Utreg


    And bring warm clothes + waterproofs, watch, torch.
    When it gets dark in sennybridge, its very dark... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭gerrowadat


    G3-Nut wrote: »
    does it come with a battery and charger? nice so that means i could fit a bowman headset to it as long as i get it in motorola 2 pin yea?

    Yep, battery, charging station for both, and actually a wee in-ear headset for each, too.

    No, it's motorola one-pin headset, for talkabout I got this throat mic for it, select the 'M6' connector : http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16635&cat=0&page=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭G3-Nut


    bang on gerrout cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Utreg wrote: »
    And bring warm clothes + waterproofs, watch, torch.
    When it gets dark in sennybridge, its very dark... :D

    I'll get a white sheet and cut two holes in it and run around going "wooOOOoooo" when it gets dark then ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 57 ✭✭Utreg


    LOL! As like in Southpark when all the famous black stars started moving in...?:D

    I added the wromng link earlier its http://www.ta-events.co.uk/events/phoenixrising/pr3/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    Utreg wrote: »
    LOL! As like in Southpark when all the famous black stars started moving in...?:D

    Not seen that episode, but I'll claim kudos anyway ;)

    Now, a qusetion to those who have been before;

    To pig? or not to pig?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Renius


    This event looks absolutely amazing! Ill have to start getting my load out sorted in preparation as i'm seriously considering heading over to this! when do tickets go on sale? And do you stay fighting into the night or does everything stop at the end of the day like a normal skirmish site?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    I'll go again, provided the weather is a bit better than last time. Heck, I might even go again if it's worse, now that we know what to expect.

    We wrote down the lessons learned from PR2, they just need to be tidied up a bit. The main ones are:
    • play as a team, not as individuals
    • have better officers above
    • bring GoreTex or other wet weather gear
    • bring a camp bed to get you up off the wet floors
    • don't take the same frelling building time after time after time


    It will be great training for Berget.

    Renius: Last time the game was scheduled to go on for 24 hours, but because of the weather and the fact that there were only 12 or so players still active, the marshals very sensibly suspended the game from 23:00 to 06:00. It resumed from 06:00 to 10:00 but a lot of players left early on Sunday morning, including us. I expect we'll do the same again because of the ferry times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    OzCam (and/or others), how viable is soemthing as big and heavy as the M60 in Sennybridge?

    Or to put another way, did you guys miss having support fire? or was it that urban (read: confined and tight) that it made little odds?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Spetzcong


    Interesting, I think financial constraints permitting I'll attend this, sounds deadly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    Lemming wrote: »
    OzCam (and/or others), how viable is soemthing as big and heavy as the M60 in Sennybridge?

    Or to put another way, did you guys miss having support fire? or was it that urban (read: confined and tight) that it made little odds?

    IMO, and more experienced players may differ, is that an M60 will be very useful, but only with proper squad tactics. There are plenty of places to use it (like denying avenues of approach), and we will probably be attacking from the woods next time if the scenario is reversed. There is house clearance to be done but it's not the only thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭DisasterIRL


    Just wondering what the ammo restrictions are like, may have to purchase another gun if they are low, it's just way to easy for my gun to eat up the pellets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    For PR2 there was an ammo restriction of 600rd per person (2,000 for support gunners). You can resupply back up to the limit at the respawn points. You can carry any number of mags, but they have to be mid or low-cap.

    Full details of the restrictions will be on the TA-events website nearer to the event, there's no point in clogging up the thread with questions until then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,140 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Lemming, the M60 was sorely missed. There was some serious instances where we needed heavy fire but didnt have it.

    Theres enough buildings,roads, ditches etc for it to be worthwhile brining.

    Ozcam mentioned a few points, our CO was terrible and went missing all the time, nothing we can do about that.

    And our units movement suffered.

    So id advise, before you arrive, arrange with ian the respective sections and platoons, and get the people in charge beofre you get there.

    If ian throws any others onto your team, they fall under the command.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Spetzcong


    our CO was terrible and went missing all the time

    Foxhole Norman?

    "You look after things here sergeant, I'll go for uh... help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,226 ✭✭✭gerrowadat


    We could have done with a few more snipers, actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Sod'o swords


    This is all the more reason to get my full licence...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    I'll be driving over for this one :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 913 ✭✭✭fayer


    Ozcam mentioned a few points, our CO was terrible and went missing all the time, nothing we can do about that.

    And our units movement suffered.

    Lets just admit it, our CO legged it after 5 min of game play. Doc stood up and started barking orders (very well), as we had no comms to command (they were under what ever rock the CO was) Doc ran to the next building under fire to co-ordinate an attack on the pumping station which was a key turning point in the game.

    I vote Doc for CO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Renius


    Right lads i'm pretty damn serious about heading over to this. How does it work teams wise? do you have to organise to be part of a team before you leave or do you just turn up and join a side?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    fayer wrote: »
    Lets just admit it, our CO legged it after 5 min of game play.

    And there was me, making the charitable assumption that he'd forgotten about us...

    Yes, we need a few snipers. Scope & radio are as important as range.

    The other thing is Ian will be our company commander at Berget. We need to do two things:
    a) put your fingers in your ears when he shouts WAZZUP!
    b) stick to him like sh!t to a blanket so we can get used to each other.

    Most of the NATO ops in Berget will be on platoon or company scale, so we need to get used to operating as squads and above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    Renius wrote: »
    Right lads i'm pretty damn serious about heading over to this. How does it work teams wise? do you have to organise to be part of a team before you leave or do you just turn up and join a side?

    Glad to have you.

    No, you don't have to be part of a team before you go, though obviously it helps if you've played with people before.

    Whether you'll be playing for the AZ side or the AR side depends on what camo options you have. Details will be on the TA website in due course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    OzCam wrote: »
    Details will be on the TA website in due course.

    They already are: http://ta-events.co.uk/events/phoenixrising/pr3/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    There is a wealth of information in the threads about PR2. There's no point in reposting this stuff until nearer the date. Lemming and I will no doubt be re-checking the logistics before then.

    Enjoy. The Search engine is your friend.

    Bookings and Info

    General discussion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭OzCam


    Note: ammo limit for support gunners has increased to 3,000. New medic rules.

    PR3 Rules


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