Is it time the polish went home

Dragous

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

amacachi

:rolleyes:

Amirani

Ireland has signed up to EU law in relation to the free movement of labour. Polish people have every right to remain here if they wish as Irish people are free to live, work and draw dole in other EU countries. Is it not unfair to show our foreign nationals the door when it is our construction companies who encouraged them to come here in the first place due to a labour shortage?

seanybiker

Since a load of em worked in the building trade I would count that as contributing to the economy. Its not their fault we have a government who couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery.
If we send them back why dont we take back all the Irish all over the world who are living in places illegally. While we are at it sure we may aswell take back all the
Descendants of Irish people who legged it during the famine.

eoin5

As far as I can see they are going home. We used to get a fair few Polish lads into the shop but lately its a rarity.

Guillaume

Dragous wrote: »

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

Well, first I do not think it is legally possible to send back foreigners to their country. Legally, maybe, Ireland can restrict its frontiers to new immigrants, especially those from the new European members area. France and Germany did, if i reckon, due to their unemployment.
This concern the polish, but it concerns also Lithuanian, Latvian, Hungarian, etc... Those people, yes, truth enough, contributed to the economy by their work force. But not by their spending or desire to integrate the Irish society on a social way. They are here for the money.

Lady Lainy

With the freedom of movement and labour we can't legally boot them out.
From my own personal experience, the Lithuanians and Latvians will spend money here. They will go out, socialise, and integrate into irish society. But it is the polish, who will keep to them selves, form there own little communities. There are a number of polish customers who come into where I work, been coming in for as long as I have been working there, and not a word of english. They are over here yet they wouldnt even learn basic english.

In a perfect world, there should be protection for "failing" countries within the EU. In my eyes Ireland is failing. We were flurishing for years, but now we are on a steep slippery slope. In a perfect world there would be a halt on EU migration to ireland. We can no longer support our selves, how are we supposed to support other countries.

As someone mentioned above, Yes the polish are leaving, Ireland have lost many of our EU grants, which poland are no receiving to help develop infrastructure, schools, industrial estates and kick start busineses. ie....giving grants to encourage companies such as DELL to set up shop over there.

We can not blame the polish or any other nationality for the failings of our govnerment to protect us. Though trust me......I understand the frustration...I had my hours cut recently to less than 10 hours a week because our company closed another store and moved that manager (polish) to our store....which effected everyons hours...

silverharp

Guillaume wrote: »

But not by their spending or desire to integrate the Irish society on a social way. They are here for the money.

if you plan on sending them home can we vacate the aran islands and relocate all the Irish skangers, they are a much more scary group that wont integrate into Irish society in a social way:D

jmayo

Dragous wrote: »

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

Change a few terms in your post and low and behold, we could have an Englishman talking about lazy drunken sponging paddies and sending them back to their spuds in Eire :rolleyes:

For someone that doesn't mean to offend anyone you sure do a good job
If every nation adopted this policy of sending those damm foreigners, who contribute nothing, home then how many Irish people would be back here from US, UK, Australia, Germany, etc etc.

Serenity Now!

Dragous wrote: »

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

Another pogrom afficiando with a short memory, eh? :rolleyes:

jimmmy

Dragous wrote: »

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

havana

How have they not contributed to our economy. They have worked hard and while i'm sure alot of money has been sent home they didn't survive here on air. And those who are now entitled to social welfare are entitled because they meet the habitual residency conditions which means they have contributed to our society for at least a couple of years

seanybiker

jimmmy wrote: »

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

They got paid to build their own houses?? That was nice of us

professore

Dragous wrote: »

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy. And they are robbing our social welfare scheme. there are a few working with me here in limerick part time and they say that they won't leave now that dell has left as they can work a few hours here and then draw the dole. I don't mean to offend anyone with this thread. has the problem not been that ireland was too relaxed with out migration laws as enforced by the eu

If you want to blame someone for Dell then blame the government - however slapping computers together was never going to stay in Ireland with our costs here, most of which are the governments fault. But I'm sure you still drool when that muppet Bertie comes on TV. His policies are what caused this. Cowen is just left holding the baby and is clueless now that it's puking all over him.

A lot of them have already?

They contributed nothing to the economy here? Sure they slept on the street, ate weeds and grass off the side of the road, convinced their bosses to pay no tax or prsi for them, so they spent zero in this country.

By the way that dole plan is what lots of Irish have been doing for years. The only way to do this is to pull out of the EU - then our currency will collapse completely along with all our banks, the remaining multinationals will pull out, our exports to the EU will be taxed and we will be eating grass and weeds off the side of the road for real and begging the UK for help again.

professore

jimmmy wrote: »

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

And who's fault is that ????? Us - we were stupid enough to build the houses. I'm sure when the builders were earning 50K + a year they weren't complaining. This whole "Polish ruined the country" thing is so stupid. WE DID THIS OURSELVES.

ParkRunner

Why just the Polish? Send the English back to England, the Nigerians back to Nigeria, the French back to France etc..

This thread is illogical.

allthedoyles

Dragous wrote: »

Is it time the polish went home. all they've done is taken their wages and spent them at home. they've contributed nothing to the economy.

Do you mean they have been living on fresh air ?

Does it not cost more for them to live here than the average Irish single person who lives at home ?

If the average Polish worker had been working here for the minimum wage , he would have wages of around 400 euro weekly .

How much of this would he send home weekly after living expenses ?

ntlbell

jimmmy wrote: »

You say what many Irish people have said to me in private. The massive influx of them has not beneffited the country. During the boom years they were paid well to build houses for themselves to rent / live in in Ireland, and the Irish people are now left carrying empty houses.

The houses are empty because they're over priced and the rent is set too high.

not because of another nation of people

zod

yeah .. what have the romans ever done for us?

seanybiker

So what if they sent money home. They worked for it they can do what they want with it. Some of the polish women do be fairly hot. Send the men home lol

allthedoyles

seanybiker wrote: »

Some of the polish women do be fairly hot. Send the men home lol

But did anone notice , that they seem to dress the same way , summer and winter

ntlbell

allthedoyles wrote: »

But did anone notice , that they seem to dress the same way , summer and winter

they make everything look hot tho

wolfpawnat

Well if they are not going to employ any Irish, and they too are in the EU and the free movement of labour laws are SUPPOSED to apply to them too, then why are we still employing them? We are being let go from our jobs by the lorry load and the amount of Polish on our welfare system is absolute madness. I'm sorry to sound racist but we need to treat them as they are treating us!

I am currently attending a maternity hospital for ante-natal appointments and there is a social welfare/worker department there too, I went in to ask a question on getting the dads name on the birth cert and the amount of Eastern European women writing out all the benefits they can get is madness and in several cases I heard them say they are having babies here ONLY for our benefits. I'm sorry but I wont get sweet f all when my baby is born and I have paid taxes and I am Irish and these women are using our system rather than go home and work there!

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Well if they are not going to employ any Irish, and they too are in the EU and the free movement of labour laws are SUPPOSED to apply to them too, then why are we still employing them? We are being let go from our jobs by the lorry load and the amount of Polish on our welfare system is absolute madness. I'm sorry to sound racist but we need to treat them as they are treating us!

I am currently attending a maternity hospital for ante-natal appointments and there is a social welfare/worker department there too, I went in to ask a question on getting the dads name on the birth cert and the amount of Eastern European women writing out all the benefits they can get is madness and in several cases I heard them say they are having babies here ONLY for our benefits. I'm sorry but I wont get sweet f all when my baby is born and I have paid taxes and I am Irish and these women are using our system rather than go home and work there!

You will get any benefit you're entitled to if you don't like your free to move to the UK and have your baby on the NHS

wolfpawnat

I am not making this about the benefits, that is off topic, I am merely saying that alot of the Polish will not be heading home because the way Ireland is run economically is better than Poland, if you want to have a child our benefit schemes are better than theirs.

But why not answer the original question in my statement why employ them if they will not eploy us, Even though they are supposed to be obliged to by the EU laws of the free movement of people and labour? Thats what I'm asking and I think it is a fair question.

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I am not making this about the benefits, that is off topic, I am merely saying that alot of the Polish will not be heading home because the way Ireland is run economically is better than Poland, if you want to have a child our benefit schemes are better than theirs.

But why not answer the original question in my statement why employ them if they will not eploy us, Even though they are supposed to be obliged to by the EU laws of the free movement of people and labour? Thats what I'm asking and I think it is a fair question.

I hope your not referring to some article in IT referring to signs on building sites?

They will hire us I know Irish people working in Poland.

any other stupid questions?

gandalf

They paid and pay taxes therefore they contributed to the economy which is a lot more than certain sections of irish society have done.

You either support the freedom of labour within the EU or you don't but Ireland and the Irish have benefitted far more from this relationship than those that have come here.

We are in difficulty now because the Government did not prepare for a downturn properly, they failed and didn't do the job they were charged with. They are supposed to be managing the country for the whole people and not certain select groups but they did. It was obvious a long time ago that things needed to be changed, streamlined and new directions taken. Blaming people who came here to work for the problems we face is lazy and typical of the head in the sand mentality that permeates Irish Society.

gandalf

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I am not making this about the benefits, that is off topic, I am merely saying that alot of the Polish will not be heading home because the way Ireland is run economically is better than Poland, if you want to have a child our benefit schemes are better than theirs.

Our economy is run better. You are kidding right. The way the government has managed things is farcical and continues to be a complete and utter joke.

wolfpawnat

There really is no need to be narky, this is a discussions board, not a ram your ideas down someone elses throat board! I merely stated my opinion as I am legally entitled to do.

You can have an argument with someone without getting childish. No question is stupid unless we were all trained economic and political specialists educated solely in the field of modern Polish-Irish affairs

I'm supposed to be the hormonal one by being 35 weeks pregnant but you should calm down and try to have a conversation without getting petty.
:)

gandalf

This is me calm

galwayrush

The Polish are leaving themselves because there is no future staying here, even a lot of Irish will be leaving this sinking ship soon. It will take a fresh Goverment many years to reverse the rot created by the current shower . No need to suggest anyone should leave, they have no choice in the matter.

wolfpawnat

gandalf wrote: »

Our economy is run better. You are kidding right. The way the government has managed things is farcical and continues to be a complete and utter joke.

Yes it is a joke, as I stated before I am going to get f all after the baby is born, but we have more money (or so we are told) circulating around our economy than Poland. Yes I know the money is too often put to the wrong use in this country(politicians pockets):)

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

There really is no need to be narky, this is a discussions board, not a ram your ideas down someone elses throat board! I merely stated my opinion as I am legally entitled to do.

You can have an argument with someone without getting childish. No question is stupid unless we were all trained economic and political specialists educated solely in the field of modern Polish-Irish affairs

I'm supposed to be the hormonal one by being 35 weeks pregnant but you should calm down and try to have a conversation without getting petty.
:)

first of all you start harping on about what they claim on the social.

When you were questioned on that you said it was off topic, now your claiming polish companies wont hire Irish people in Poland based on a stupid article in a thrashy newspaper.

Then claim how well ran our economy is.

It's not ramming any ideas down anyones throat your making unfounded accusations I'm merely presenting you with a few facts

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Yes it is a joke, as I stated before I am going to get f all after the baby is born, but we have more money (or so we are told) circulating around our economy than Poland. Yes I know the money is too often put to the wrong use in this country(politicians pockets):)

you said benefits were off topic why do you keep bringing it up?

does the social welfare not pay 220e a week while your on maternity leave? (if you are)

will you not get children's allowance?

As I said your free to move to any EU country if you feel you will be better treated somewhere else

gandalf

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Yes it is a joke, as I stated before I am going to get f all after the baby is born, but we have more money (or so we are told) circulating around our economy than Poland. Yes I know the money is too often put to the wrong use in this country(politicians pockets):)

Firstly who is telling you we have more money than Poland? They are a country of 38 million people who are getting bundles of EU aid like we did in the 80's and early 90's?

The reality is Poles living here will be moving home soon because employment prospects are better there than here.

The question you should be asking is what are the government doing to ensure my child will have a good future rather than rants about foreigners and welfare.

The question you should be asking is what are this government doing to ensure I have employment prospects to provide for my childs future not picking on a minority because they are an easy target.

wolfpawnat

ntlbell wrote: »

first of all you start harping on about what they claim on the social.

When you were questioned on that you said it was off topic, now your claiming polish companies wont hire Irish people in Poland based on a stupid article in a thrashy newspaper.

Then claim how well ran our economy is.

It's not ramming any ideas down anyones throat your making unfounded accusations I'm merely presenting you with a few facts

Gandalf that message was aimed at ntlbell not you so sorry if you thought I was attacking you for no reason.

I never harped on about it, I merely made a statement.

There has been more of a discussion on this "no Irish" topic than just a trashy newspaper, as someone who has not had time to get a newspaper in the last while I have no idea what trashy paper you are refering to.

I am not saying Ireland is well run, I am saying it is better run than Poland. That is not saying oh my god we're brilliant or anything.

I am not picking on a minority, like many Irish people I have worked and befriended alot of foreigners and alot of them were Polish, I have nothing against the people of Poland I am merely saying if the are saying we cant work there why should they work here. If that statement is completely false then I have no problem with them continuing to work here.

ntlbell

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Gandalf that message was aimed at ntlbell not you so sorry if you thought I was attacking you for no reason.

I never harped on about it, I merely made a statement.

There has been more of a discussion on this "no Irish" topic than just a trashy newspaper, as someone who has not had time to get a newspaper in the last while I have no idea what trashy paper you are refering to.

I am not saying Ireland is well run, I am saying it is better run than Poland. That is not saying oh my god we're brilliant or anything.

You brought it up in two posts you wont get any benifits?

The reason the discussions have been happening was because the article was released.

What makes you think Ireland is currently being managed better than Poland?

can you give some examples?

gandalf

wolfpawnat wrote: »

I am not saying Ireland is well run, I am saying it is better run than Poland. That is not saying oh my god we're brilliant or anything.

Have you ever been to Poland?

I was in Krakow before Christmas and it seemed to be that they were running it fairly well.

I certainly could not say they were worse at running their country than we are so I would be very interested in how you came to that conclusion?

herya

wolfpawnat wrote: »

There has been more of a discussion on this "no Irish" topic than just a trashy newspaper, as someone who has not had time to get a newspaper in the last while I have no idea what trashy paper you are refering to.

I have nothing against the people of Poland I am merely saying if the are saying we cant work there why should they work here. If that statement is completely false then I have no problem with them continuing to work here.

You believe in some urban legend on par with swan eating. There are tonnes of Irish and British expats there working away happily. If such a sign has ever existed (highly doubtful) it was most likely a joke.

havana

Might sound cliched and childish but two wrongs don't make a right. Just because they may not wish to employ irish (which i really don't believe is true) doesn't mean we should have the same attitude. EU citizens have rights when it come to movement for work. If the system is not working properly then advocate for change but i think its dangerous business to be singling out one nation because we have mismanaged our economy.

pepsicokeacola

first of all their citizens of the eu, and second of all why dont you target the british the largest reported non-irish population living here...officialy.

Permabear

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ionix5891

"quick get on the pile!"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6610212795155043011

Serenity Now!

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Well if they are not going to employ any Irish, and they too are in the EU and the free movement of labour laws are SUPPOSED to apply to them too, then why are we still employing them? We are being let go from our jobs by the lorry load and the amount of Polish on our welfare system is absolute madness. I'm sorry to sound racist but we need to treat them as they are treating us!

I am currently attending a maternity hospital for ante-natal appointments and there is a social welfare/worker department there too, I went in to ask a question on getting the dads name on the birth cert and the amount of Eastern European women writing out all the benefits they can get is madness and in several cases I heard them say they are having babies here ONLY for our benefits. I'm sorry but I wont get sweet f all when my baby is born and I have paid taxes and I am Irish and these women are using our system rather than go home and work there!

The shash about not empoying any Irish is a sourceless planted piece in certain populist media publications. Go on, source the source.

If you or your spouse pays tax in this country (or any country for that matter) you are entitled to whatever social benefits you qualify for, even if it something as ridiculous as giving an allowance to households living above the poverty line for having flippin' children.
If the people on this list of yours are from families who have paid tax to the Exchequer's coffers then why the hell are they any bloody different to you? Their nationality does not make you qualify more than they.

oxygen_old

The issues in this thread are from what I see, Polish taking Irish Jobs, Polish taking Irish welfare, Polish not contributing to Irish economy and Polish not making any effort to integrate.

On each of these points:
Polish taking Irish Jobs : The jobs are there for the Irish. There is no Irish employer that wouldn't prefer to hire an Irish person than a Polish person but the Irish dont want the jobs. I work in a bar at weekends and I see tonnes of Polish people working there, taking table orders, cleaning, collecting glasses (not so much behind the bar, I think the language is an issue) The Irish dont want these jobs, Im not sure if that will change with time as they are, will wait and see, but Polish have no advantage in getting these jobs. Same goes with the construction industry they were all working in, jobs were there for the Irish as well. (however I dont know enough to comment on Spark's, chippies and other trades men that were out priced by Polish)

Polish taking Irish welfare: It does seem unfair to have to look after the Polish here rather than in their own country. But there havent been that many Poles that came over here and didnt work and claimed welfare. They paid tax here long enough, if they need unemployment benefits they should get it. This is Irish and European law. The problem I see here is the Irish welfare system. I work full time on an above average Irish wage during the week, then I work in a bar at weekends. I know several people with part time jobs on welfare than bring home far much more than me on a weekly basis. This is absolutely ridiculous. If people see more advantage to not working, of course they are not going to. The system needs to be shook up asap.

Polish not contributing to Irish economy : Polish dont drink and spend as much as Irish. I think if anyone needs to learn from this budgeting its the Irish, not the Polish.

Polish not making any effort to integrate: They do tend to stay to there own. If there was an influx of Irish people to Poland (not looking unrealistic) can you say you wouldnt hang with the local Irish? I know I would. I think whats bothering the Irish people about this is that the Polish are a particullarly good looking people for the most part. The men and women look after themselves, far more on average than the Irish do. (myself included in that)

AlekSmart

This is one of those threads where there is a very serious issue struggling to emerge through the mist.

However,as with many such issues in Irish history,our native unwillingness to be direct and forthright leaves us with stuff hangin in the air...left unsaid..."you know yourself `ism"

Our Political map since Independence is littered with the deified corpses of those Politicians who made careers out of speaking from the corners of their (many) mouths.

We collectively went out and created Politicial dynasties comprised of the most ill-suited duplicitous Political Vagrants to be found anywhere.

BUT..We did that freely and with no Oppressors Riding Boot resting on our necks,and we did it repeatedly over a 70 year period which saw an entire nation apparently believe that it was necessary to petition the Pope in order to get a medical card or a telephone.

What we are left with now is a Nation which is bereft of self-confidence at every level.

One of the notable points concerning the Polish is how we have come to regard them as a somewhat dour grouping,who came here only to work and did`nt seem particularly interested in the Irish "Craic".

Oh yes how we sneered at the young Pole who was always in first of a Monday morning...and last out of a Saturday afternoon.

Yes many of those poles lived in hard conditions drinking a copious amount of spirits,but it rarely interefered with their ability to work a full and productive week.

Many of the Poles I know took on board every opportunity to secure the qualifications which would be of use to them in the "New" Poland when they returned.

We Irish have come to distrust such levels of personal application or forward planning.
We appear to regard it as some remanant of oul Presbeterian thinking which only interferes with our "Here come`s the Weekend" ethos.

The returning Polish workers are going to reap the benefits of what they learned here,already we hear glowing praise about their committment,enthusiasm and desire to better themselves from the newly arrived Employers in their country.

Its equally interesting to see mention of other nationalities such as the Latvian`s or Lithuanian`s.

Sadly for many of us,any young Eastern European worker became a "Pole".
We could`nt be bothered to learn a little about these people who so rapidly took a foothold at every level in Èire Nua.

"Pole" was a nice easy short word,simple to pronounce and full of connations with pole dancing....(Ha Ha Ha !!).

We also convienently decided to disregard the reality that this generation of young Eastern European folk were coming from a vast country which was still in places dominated by REAL hardship.

Our native pre-occupation with John Bull`s oppression left us blind to the level of determination which surviving the Nazi occupation and it`s attendant pogroms had given to our young Polish guests.

The ghettos of Warsaw,the place names such as Lodz,Chelmno,Treblinka all served to frame the development of these people and we collectively cared not a whit.

The sacking of Balbriggan and the burning of the Four Courts assumes a somewhat different status when placed alongside the vast numbers of Polish which another Educated,Civilized European country had decided were unfit to live.

My point,perhaps poorly made,is that this recession,depression or whatever is showing us some very glaring gaps which exist in our social development as a race.
It is indicating that as a culture we rushed to embrace and develop a decadent and largely pointless economy,where the activities of a few Builders,Developers and Snake Oil salesmen became the stuff of legend.

I really don`t believe we are aware of just how far we have left to fall....

ejmaztec

Xenophobia results from complete and utter narrow-minded hypocrisy and ignorance. It's a pity that the Xenophobes haven't got their own little place to go to. If it were not for the influx of foreigners, they would be blaming someone else for their inadequacies.

ionix5891

i think its envy

these people work hard and they look after themselves

fair play to them

anyways about time some people woke up and realized that Ireland is part of EU and the wider world, and globalization plays for and against us

i for one dont want to go back to the old days and i hope some irish people become more open minded, for their own good, maybe go and travel a bit

Fighting Irish

seanybiker wrote: »

Since a load of em worked in the building trade I would count that as contributing to the economy. Its not their fault we have a government who couldnt organise a piss up in a brewery.
If we send them back why dont we take back all the Irish all over the world who are living in places illegally. While we are at it sure we may aswell take back all the
Descendants of Irish people who legged it during the famine.

its also not their fault so many people paid over 300K for these small houses and now many of these people are fooked

O'Morris

From an economic point of view it would help things if there were fewer people in the country competing for a shrinking number of available jobs. According to this article in the economist, if 20,000 people left the country we could see unemployment fall by a percentage point.

But the political significance is clear: if 20,000 workers from eastern Europe left Ireland, that would reduce unemployment by about a percentage point. Departing Poles would take their spending power with them, admittedly. But on balance, if they leave, it will be another reward for open labour markets. For the first time, a jump in Irish unemployment may be offset by non-nationals leaving the country.

gandalf

O'Morris they already are leaving in droves.

See this article for details.