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Fm 09 Guide

  • 05-01-2009 11:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭


    Graham's guide to FM 09 Part 1:

    Available here http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=17211

    Area for pro FM players to look at is the players state of mind section. I spent ages researching that and the results are interesting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Great read man.
    Especially, as you said, the bit out the mental attributes.

    Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    you're much more conservative than I am. much more conservative.

    I have plenty to debate with ya, but sadly I need to reinstall my OS tonight so it'll be a day or two before i can gather info on my own theories (which are heavily influenced by TT&F if i'm honest).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    you're much more conservative than I am. much more conservative.

    I have plenty to debate with ya, but sadly I need to reinstall my OS tonight so it'll be a day or two before i can gather info on my own theories (which are heavily influenced by TT&F if i'm honest).

    Oh it's on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    you're much more conservative than I am. much more conservative.

    I have plenty to debate with ya, but sadly I need to reinstall my OS tonight so it'll be a day or two before i can gather info on my own theories (which are heavily influenced by TT&F if i'm honest).

    I agree I am more conservative, but you have a better chance of winning if you don't concede in my opinion. When I won the league for the first time with Liverpool I only conceded 16 goals all season. Winning 1-0 or 5-0 has the same outcome, three points!

    I look forward to hearing what you have to say though as we could both be right, but just have different styles of play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Super guide. You were true to your word :)

    Should be very useful as im finding this iteration of the game rock hard. Shortly gonna start my 5th (yes, 5th!) career game attempt - here's hoping for success this time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Great read man.
    Especially, as you said, the bit out the mental attributes.

    Cheers

    Thanks.

    It was something I neglected in the past. I started testing that stuff out in FM08 and read a lot of other opinions on it as well. Turns out it's pretty damn important. :)

    If you usually have a mentally tough team you can overachieve by grinding out results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Vokes wrote: »
    Super guide. You were true to your word :)

    Should be very useful as im finding this iteration of the game rock hard. Shortly gonna start my 5th (yes, 5th!) career game attempt - here's hoping for success this time.

    Thanks man.

    Best of luck with it. Who are you playing as?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Wolves.

    Promoted in 1st season via playoffs. Had a good start in the premier league but after a few months im currently in 17th spot. It is of course the tactical side of things that I am having difficulties with (and a lot of other FM09 players are too im sure). There's so many nuances to the tactical sliders + decided which combination of sliders, etc...

    I'll go over my setup now with a fresh eye after re-reading your guide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Vokes wrote: »
    Wolves.

    Promoted in 1st season via playoffs. Had a good start in the premier league but after a few months im currently in 17th spot. It is of course the tactical side of things that I am having difficulties with (and a lot of other FM09 players are too im sure). There's so many nuances to the tactical sliders + decided which combination of sliders, etc...

    I'll go over my setup now with a fresh eye after re-reading your guide.

    Cool. Just remember players need to gel into tactics so it might take four or five games until.

    I would recommend a 4-5-1 formation anyway with two DM's.

    That's just me anyway. I will post up my tactics tomorrow anyway so people can try or even edit them to suite their team better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Just to throw a wrench in the works... :)

    Regarding Ambition, you say:
    This stat should be between 7-14. Players with low ambition are poor with the ball and don't try anything out of the ordinary. They make bad playmakers and wingers. Although they have the vision and creativity to create a killer pass or score a long range effort they would never attempt this due to low ambition. If a winger is on the ball and has low ambition, then he will not try to take on his man and get a cross in, but rather pass to ball to somebody else nearby. If players are over ambitious, then the opposite can happen. They may constantly try to score from ambitious shots despite better options open to them. They may also try overcomplicated passes when a simple one was the better option. Winger who are over ambitious will constantly try to beat their man without looking for the pass. Players who are over ambitious are at their worst when their stats are the best as they try to play better, then they actually are. It's OK when Cristiano Ronaldo tries tricks and takes on defenders, but when Stephen Hunt tries the same the results are plain for all to see. Again, it's the opposite for players with low ambition as they are at their worst when their stats are high as you get frustrated to see a player with Messi's ability look to offload the ball instead of going on one of his mazey runs. Another problem with ambitious players is that they will jump ship the moment a big club comes in to offer for them and they will kick up if you decide to tell them to stay put.

    The bit I've highlighted in bold there - isn't that simply just a description of the visible Flair attribute? I would be of the opinion that Ambition simply controls how much a player wants to win trophies, move to a big club, etc as you have described in the last (non-bolded) sentence in that same paragraph.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭glenjamin


    Copy and paste. :)

    Cheers, good read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Vokes wrote: »
    Just to throw a wrench in the works... :)

    Regarding Ambition, you say:



    The bit I've highlighted in bold there - isn't that simply just a description of the visible Flair attribute? I would be of the opinion that Ambition simply controls how much a player wants to win trophies, move to a big club, etc as you have described in the last (non-bolded) sentence in that same paragraph.

    No, flair involves audacious attempts on goal like heel flicks or bicycle kicks. For passing it involves crazy flicks etc.

    Ambitious attempts on goal are attempts that are, well, ambitious. You usually hear it on telly: "That was a bit ambitious from Rooney"

    I experimented with Ambition in a specially created saved game and database. I created a player with Messi's ability, but with low ambition what I noticed was that they tended to lay off the ball instead on running with it and really only scored tap ins. I would never make up something and put it in the guide. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Cool. You've convinced me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Be nice to see a guide for lower league management. Can't all have 15-20 in the attributes department! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Be nice to see a guide for lower league management. Can't all have 15-20 in the attributes department! :pac:

    Ha indeed. I have experience in that area as well, but since the guide ended with about 10,000 words I didn't feel like writing another 10,000 :)

    Just broaden the search to 13-20 and maybe ignore if some key stats aren't up to the standard. With lower league management it's really all about the tactics and my guide covered them and they can equally be applied to lower league.

    I usually just look at the top teams in the lower league and compare stats for players I have with them. You get a rough idea of your own teams strength and whether it needs improving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Daemonic


    dsmythy wrote: »
    Be nice to see a guide for lower league management. Can't all have 15-20 in the attributes department! :pac:
    Ha indeed. I have experience in that area as well, but since the guide ended with about 10,000 words I didn't feel like writing another 10,000 :)

    Just broaden the search to 13-20 and maybe ignore if some key stats aren't up to the standard. With lower league management it's really all about the tactics and my guide covered them and they can equally be applied to lower league.

    I usually just look at the top teams in the lower league and compare stats for players I have with them. You get a rough idea of your own teams strength and whether it needs improving.
    And make use of your Assistants Team Report. He'll let you know the weaker areas but more importantly recommend players to plug the gaps. These players are usually ones not found by your scouts as well.
    When scouting and signing players always try to aim to have all players with potential rated as good or better for the league above you. Gives some breathing room if you get promoted as replacing the majority of the first team at the start of a season makes team gelling very tough.
    That said, if managing a team in the BSS or BSN then getting anyone even remotely decent to sign for you can be tough so loans are your friend, get a good parent and aid their reserves and youths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    having driver issues at the mo, still haven't sorted out my comp in full yet (stupid Dell with broken installers).

    I will say though, on the defensive line; it's not good to just play deep the whole time. It depends on a number of factors, pitch size, opposition strengths and weaknesses, your own defenders attributes and the tactical approach of the opposition as well as yours. Personally i think getting the defensive line right is the most important component in the game. A great tactic can fall apart because you've over stretched your players by having the defense too deep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    having driver issues at the mo, still haven't sorted out my comp in full yet (stupid Dell with broken installers).

    I will say though, on the defensive line; it's not good to just play deep the whole time. It depends on a number of factors, pitch size, opposition strengths and weaknesses, your own defenders attributes and the tactical approach of the opposition as well as yours. Personally i think getting the defensive line right is the most important component in the game. A great tactic can fall apart because you've over stretched your players by having the defense too deep.

    Maybe.

    Playing deep with counter attack on can be very good. Soak up pressure, win the ball and catch them on the break. Works for me and many times have you seen players pace past your defenders to score a one on one.? For me it was too many so I pushed deeper. Win from the back and either hit them on the break or build up from the back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Just an update.

    If you didn't know already Part 2 of the guide can be found here:

    http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=17221

    Also, my I was nominated for "Topic of the Month" over at FM Formation. I posted my guide there and it seems to have gotten good reviews.

    Thanks,
    Graham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Ardscoil just a question for you.
    When you say you play 5 across the middle with two Defense minded midfielders do you mean you have 5 across the middle with two having arrows back?

    Or a 4-2-3-1 situation ala

    MF
    MF
    MF

    DM
    DM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Ardscoil just a question for you.
    When you say you play 5 across the middle with two Defense minded midfielders do you mean you have 5 across the middle with two having arrows back?

    Or a 4-2-3-1 situation ala

    MF
    MF
    MF

    DM
    DM




    I play this:

    GK

    DR----DC----DC----DL

    DM----DM----


    ---AMC---AMC---AMC

    ST


    The middle ACM run back to the MC slot to pick up the ball while the other to ACM run up beside the striker. I can upload the tactic for you if you like and you can edit it or keep it the way it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    I play this:

    GK

    DR----DC----DC----DL

    DM----DM----


    ---AMC---AMC---AMC

    ST


    The middle ACM run back to the MC slot to pick up the ball while the other to ACM run up beside the striker. I can upload the tactic for you if you like and you can edit it or keep it the way it is?

    Yeah that would be awesome if ya could.
    Three AMC though? Kinda rules out any need for wingers, do you not find that the middle of the pitch gets very congested?
    Also having them as AM would that not make it more of a 4-2-4 than a 4-5-1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Yeah that would be awesome if ya could.
    Three AMC though? Kinda rules out any need for wingers, do you not find that the middle of the pitch gets very congested?
    Also having them as AM would that not make it more of a 4-2-4 than a 4-5-1?

    Rules out the need for flat out wingers, but you could slide the width bar up high and they move out to they flanks as another option. The tactic really needs the right players. Players who can play AMC R/L/C are devastating here.

    Yes the midfield gets packed out, but I did that on purpose. If you pack out the midfield and create a small pitch as well as have your AMC as with high passing and creativity then the AI should only worry about the congestion.

    The formation is 4-5-1. If the runs are made it turns into a 4-3-3 if anything.

    Meh it's not letting me upload the files. Have you got MSN?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Meh it's not letting me upload the files. Have you got MSN?

    change the extension to .txt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    How do I do that? Pardon my retarded question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    How do I do that? Pardon my retarded question.

    tactic.tac; right click, rename as tactic.txt, simple as that. rename tactic.tac to use.

    edit: sometimes need to have view file extensions enabled for this to work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Meh it's not letting me upload the files. Have you got MSN?

    Heya yeah I do.
    I'm assuming your the Graham that added me?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Frisbee wrote: »
    I'm assuming your the Graham that added me?

    Ardscoil's name is Graham? ahahahahahahahaha....











    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Frisbee wrote: »
    Heya yeah I do.
    I'm assuming your the Graham that added me?

    Indeed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Ardscoil's name is Graham? ahahahahahahahaha....











    ;)

    Could be worse....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 JayusKayus


    I'm sorry to denigrate your work, but I found your players guide utterly pointless!

    You were only short of putting up - Top Tip: remember to select a goalkeeper in goal!!!

    Cheers,
    JK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Well I have received a few emails about my guide. Most contain the same questions so I though I'd share a few answers here. They may or may not be helpful.

    Q: My Assistant Manager keeps telling me their are gaps between my midfield and strikers and a gap between my midfield and defence which he says is being exploited. I play DMC and ACM and it say the same. How can I fix this?

    A: Many people get confused here and rightfully so because your Assistant isn't very clear. What this means is that there is a physical gap, but is caused by the players mentality. Sounds confusing, but will explain it more clearly. Lets just say your Assistant says their is a gap between your defence and midfield that can be exploited. This is caused because your defenders mentality is set too defensive and your midfield's mentality is too attacking. When your team has possession of the ball your midfield pushes up in attack and your defenders push back creating a gap that could be exploited by a counter attack or loss of possession.

    In order to counter this you have a number of options. You can set your mentality in the same for the whole team or have the individual settings balance out for the whole team. E.g. Defenders 25% of the bar, Midfield 50% and strikers 75%, but you can ix it up a bit. You can also ignore the gap if that's how you want your team to play.

    screenshot3.jpg


    Q: Do teams ever build new stadiums?

    A: Yes they do, but only under certain conditions. Firstly a new stadium is going to cost in and around 300m depending on who you are so your going to need to be a rich team. You must also have an average full attendance of 90% for the whole season. If your a good manager they might even name it after you...

    TheBartman-9.png

    Q: My board and fans are unhappy for no logical reason, why?

    A: Simple answer. The board confidence system is a shambles and best off just ignoring it.

    screenshot4.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    JayusKayus wrote: »
    I'm sorry to denigrate your work, but I found your players guide utterly pointless!

    You were only short of putting up - Top Tip: remember to select a goalkeeper in goal!!!

    Cheers,
    JK

    Was designed for beginners as well. You underestimate peoples need for this sort of help. If you go to the SI games forum or other FM fansites there is always new people springing up asking for help with questions like this. I said this at the start of the guide. Yes, I realise it sound patronising to advanced players, but that can't be helped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    JayusKayus wrote: »
    I'm sorry to denigrate your work, but I found your players guide utterly pointless!

    You were only short of putting up - Top Tip: remember to select a goalkeeper in goal!!!

    Cheers,
    JK

    tbh man Ardscoil put a lot of work into those guides and I would take offence if I was him at this comment.
    I found the guides very helpful, especially the mental aspect of players.
    If you didn't like the guide don't read it and if you think it was so bad let's see your guide that you put a lot of work into hmmm?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭jusk


    I think it's a fine guide, thorough and well put together.

    Everyone will have their own theories and slants on various aspects, but if you think you know it all, then don't bother reading a guide. I've been playing since CM93, and I still learned a thing or two.

    My only problem with it is the use of rose-tinted references to Liverpool as examples for things! ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Thanks guys!

    As to be expected with any work put on the internet it's also going to draw criticism. Luckily for me that criticism has been low, but it's obviously not going to be liked by all. You should also note that the guide is only version 1. It's going to be expanded upon and made to look better.

    I will be adding a guide to pitch sizes next. Something that is mostly ignored, but vital to success (It's short, but informative). I will also be adding a guide on how to counter tactics employed against you, that should be handy against teams who usually find hard to beat.

    Any ideas for the guide then please let me know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    JayusKayus wrote: »
    I'm sorry to denigrate your work, but I found your players guide utterly pointless!

    You were only short of putting up - Top Tip: remember to select a goalkeeper in goal!!!

    Cheers,
    JK

    not really. in all good guides it's worth going back to basics, this shows up the different approaches to the game significantly. You obviously have a very similar to approach to Ardscoil, so the guide is less useful to you. however there are many different approaches to any game, and it's these back to basics guides that are most useful in making those fundamental changes to your approach that can make a good player into a great player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    not really. in all good guides it's worth going back to basics, this shows up the different approaches to the game significantly. You obviously have a very similar to approach to Ardscoil, so the guide is less useful to you. however there are many different approaches to any game, and it's these back to basics guides that are most useful in making those fundamental changes to your approach that can make a good player into a great player.

    I never got to hear your tactical approach to the game leninbenjamin. I would still like to hear it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Guide update:

    Now contains a guide to pitch sizes with their advantages and disadvantages.

    An updated version on the guide is found here:

    http://www.fmformation.net/general-guides/36530-fm-09-complete-guide.html

    The updated version is easier to read and contains pictures for some reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    You have to register to that forum to read the guide.
    Just to let people know :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Frisbee wrote: »
    You have to register to that forum to read the guide.
    Just to let people know :)

    Oh right :)

    It's a good site for downloads etc.

    For those who don't want to register then long story short it's large for attacking team and small for defensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 mastermichael20


    JayusKayus wrote: »
    I'm sorry to denigrate your work, but I found your players guide utterly pointless!

    You were only short of putting up - Top Tip: remember to select a goalkeeper in goal!!!

    Cheers,
    JK
    Your a fool if you think that guide wasnt great apart from advising players,you are suffering from graeme souness syndrome.you belong in the echolens of proffessional football,11 brutes against 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 mastermichael20


    Have you any word on lulinha,what happened to him.I would also like your opinion on adrien da silva,sakho and saivet for psg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Have you any word on lulinha,what happened to him.I would also like your opinion on adrien da silva,sakho and saivet for psg.

    Not at my desktop now (on laptop), but will post about them tonight with some screenshots of what they look like 6 years down the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 mastermichael20


    Not at my desktop now (on laptop), but will post about them tonight with some screenshots of what they look like 6 years down the line.
    Ye that would be great,much appreciated.thanks.great guide.Laurito is unbelievable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    Yeah Laurito was the best purchase I ever made in FM09. When I was making the list of players I think Laurito and Kacar were the only players I had that nobody else had on any list. Weird since they're probably the two best players you can buy.

    Anyway:

    Lulinha: Pretty poor player. Still hasn't made it out of Brazil yet. Can play on the flanks or up front. With finishing 11, composure 13 and off the ball 13 he's not going to get many goals. On the flanks is his best position. Despite being rather quick and skill full his crossing 9 and passing 12. Basically he has no end product. Avoid in my opinion. Not even good enough for the bench.

    Sakho: Stats say it all. Jumping and heading 16 and he's 6'2. Nobody is going to beat him in the air. Strength 20 so he can ease players off the ball. Positioning 18 so he's always able to be in the right place and the right time to intercept a pass. Concentration 18 so mistake will be rare. He's also fast for a defender. Definite purchase for any club.

    Henri Saivet: I had this guy but sold him for 13m to Villa. He's very good, but with Torres and Laurito ahead of him I cashed in. Very fast and good in front of goal. Finishing could be better, but he has scored quite a few goals with Villa. Alongside Laurito he would be devastating. Also, there is better players than him available.

    I'm updating the guide this weekend with about 20 new players and I'm adding screenshots for all new players and existing players. I'll tell you one player to get who I missed out on Alexis Sanchez. He is the other young Chilean at Udinese. As good as Laurito!

    EDIT: Couldn't find the other guy. What club does he play for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 mastermichael20


    Yeah Laurito was the best purchase I ever made in FM09. When I was making the list of players I think Laurito and Kacar were the only players I had that nobody else had on any list. Weird since they're probably the two best players you can buy.

    Anyway:

    Lulinha: Pretty poor player. Still hasn't made it out of Brazil yet. Can play on the flanks or up front. With finishing 11, composure 13 and off the ball 13 he's not going to get many goals. On the flanks is his best position. Despite being rather quick and skill full his crossing 9 and passing 12. Basically he has no end product. Avoid in my opinion. Not even good enough for the bench.

    Sakho: Stats say it all. Jumping and heading 16 and he's 6'2. Nobody is going to beat him in the air. Strength 20 so he can ease players off the ball. Positioning 18 so he's always able to be in the right place and the right time to intercept a pass. Concentration 18 so mistake will be rare. He's also fast for a defender. Definite purchase for any club.

    Henri Saivet: I had this guy but sold him for 13m to Villa. He's very good, but with Torres and Laurito ahead of him I cashed in. Very fast and good in front of goal. Finishing could be better, but he has scored quite a few goals with Villa. Alongside Laurito he would be devastating. Also, there is better players than him available.

    I'm updating the guide this weekend with about 20 new players and I'm adding screenshots for all new players and existing players. I'll tell you one player to get who I missed out on Alexis Sanchez. He is the other young Chilean at Udinese. As good as Laurito!

    EDIT: Couldn't find the other guy. What club does he play for?
    thanks for that,lookin forward to thr update,adrien da silva for lisbon,shame bout lulinha.i thought he was one of the best in the last game,played him in the hole and adrien although my friends said they didnt think he was any good i had him at newcastle in fm08 and won the league in my first season.he was only 18 but played bout 20 league games,i got all his stats up bright blue apart from defensive and he was worth 20mil at one stage and i pais 775,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭joe123


    thanks for that,lookin forward to thr update,adrien da silva for lisbon,shame bout lulinha.i thought he was one of the best in the last game,played him in the hole and adrien although my friends said they didnt think he was any good i had him at newcastle in fm08 and won the league in my first season.he was only 18 but played bout 20 league games,i got all his stats up bright blue apart from defensive and he was worth 20mil at one stage and i pais 775,000.

    Did you have him on a specific training schedule or was it just the general one??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭Ardscoil Ris


    joe123 wrote: »
    Did you have him on a specific training schedule or was it just the general one??

    He probably used Tug's Training. Everybody uses that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,399 ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    I try to make my own training, takes me fncking ages to get it right but for me that is one of the best parts of the game. It is certainly the least buggy part of the game.


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