Beverly Cooper Flynn, cleaning up at taxpayers expense again!

Darragh29

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=81101-qqqx=1.asp

Seriously, 40K in unvouched expenses again. You couldn't make it up!

Darsad

Well I suppose she has plenty of her court case bills to still pay off.

deadhead13

Interesting how she was allowed to rejoin FF just weeks before her father was due back to mahon. Irish politics moves in mysterious ways.

jimmycrackcorm

When did she clean up before?

Liam Byrne

Darragh29 wrote: »

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=81101-qqqx=1.asp

Seriously, 40K in unvouched expenses again. You couldn't make it up!

Ah it's probably just one of those "loans" or "dig-outs"......you know the ones - the ones that FF give themselves or their mistresses when times are tight ? The ones FF NEVER give an ordinary PAYE taxpayer ?

Typical, though - a HUGE furore from FF when someone from FAS or Anglo Irish Bank does this (mind you, without any consequences or firing of anyone responsible) and then SFA from the same FFers when it's "one of their own".

No wonder the country's down the tubes.....

Darragh29

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

When did she clean up before?

RTÉ pursued a bankruptcy action against Flynn, following her failure to pay the €2.4 million in costs arising from her failed libel action against the station, according to RTÉ's broadcaster, Marian Finucane on her programme of 16 June 2007. Flynn had alleged that she was libelled in six RTÉ broadcasts in 1998, which reported that she had encouraged tax evasion when she was an employee of National Irish Bank. The court found against her, ruling that she had not been libelled and the RTÉ's claims were correct. She also owes a further substantial sum to James Howard, whom she also sued unsuccessfully and she has to discharge her own legal costs arising from this case.

When the bankruptcy action against her opened in the High Court on 18 June 2007, her lawyers were granted a postponement to allow her to challenge the constitutionality of legislation which disqualifies bankrupted persons from Dáil membership. Lawyers for RTÉ accused Flynn of embarking on a "litigious frolic in her own interest".[3] She subsequently abandoned plans to challenge the legislation.

On 24 June 2007, Flynn announced that she had reached a final settlement with RTÉ, paying some €1.24million.[4][5] Because the final settlement fell short of the original €2.4m, RTÉ had to absorb the difference *. This created a major outcry from the general public, media and by some TD's that this was a major abuse of public money[citation needed] as RTÉ is mainly funded by the Television License fee.

She was readmitted to the Fianna Fáil party at a meeting of its National executive on 3 April 2008.[6]

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley_Flynn

* Note: RTE is primarily funded by the licence payer, namely yourself and myself.

turgon

Maybe she should give the money to Joe Behan.

AKK

Darragh29 wrote: »

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=81101-qqqx=1.asp

Seriously, 40K in unvouched expenses again. You couldn't make it up!

What a joke of a situation.

How out of touch with reality are these people? And whatever about the senselessness of Bev's "entitlements", what possible reason could there be for not requiring TDs to vouch for their expenses? Jackie Healy Rae claimed 89,000+ in expenses - how can that possibly be justified, particularly when he surely shouldn't be claiming transport costs - is the state not already paying his way as part of the free transport scheme for the over 66s???? So what exactly can be claimed as an expense?

turgon

The reason she still gets it is because, if she didnt, she would never have joined FF. The government have rigged the rules to discourage dissent within their own ranks.

321654

well its not lost on people that FF have not had a peep out of them here. Where is the patriotic call now?

The sooner we have an election the better

galwayrush

For us mere mortals, there are criminal convictions and prison, for the elite in this banana republic, there are vast financial rewards.:mad:

bigdaddyliamo

This grubby little example of political dynasties and their lack of connection to the people is simply astounding. The amount of €40k is slightly misleading as it is the case that the money is a yearly payment which is payable until 2012!!
Nice to see some will survive the tought times ahead.:rolleyes:

Darragh29

What kind of idiots are electing the Flynn's and their ilk???

galwayrush

Darragh29 wrote: »

What kind of idiots are electing the Flynn's and their ilk???

Sadly, we'll never understand that sheep mentality:(

Liam Byrne

Darragh29 wrote: »

What kind of idiots are electing the Flynn's and their ilk???

Well, if I remember a certain Late Late Show interview, "poor" Padraig probably gets half his election quota from the people who clean and cook in his 3 houses on his "modest" salary. :rolleyes:

And Bev needs something to keep her occupied because there's nothing on TV anymore because RTE can't afford it.

Seriously, though - if it were any other country there's good few [more] FFers who would be in jail......actually, I just thought - maybe we should rename the Dail more appropriately by replacing the first letter......?

Darragh29

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Well, if I remember a certain Late Late Show interview, "poor" Padraig probably gets half his election quota from the people who clean and cook in his 3 houses on his "modest" salary. :rolleyes:

And Bev needs something to keep her occupied because there's nothing on TV anymore because RTE can't afford it.

Seriously, though - if it were any other country there's good few [more] FFers who would be in jail......actually, I just thought - maybe we should rename the Dail more appropriately by replacing the first letter......?

Change Fianna Fail to Fianna Jail.

Liam Byrne

Darragh29 wrote: »

Change Fianna Fail to Fianna Jail.

Ah no - there's no need to change that name much - just remove the fada and it's spot-on.

bigdaddyliamo

This is what we get for allowing political inbreeding. When nearly every FFer is a brother, sister, aunt, uncle or other it was only going to be a matter of time before the country was being run by 12 fingered political cleatuses!
:mad:

AKK

<Snip>

lostexpectation

its syas in the article he doesn't

AKK

lostexpectation wrote: »

its syas in the article he doesn't

Genuinely didn't see that line in the article. And I'd read it twice!

Cheers lostexpectation. Earlier post snipped!

Mr.Micro

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Ah no - there's no need to change that name much - just remove the fada and it's spot-on.

That's very sharp of you Liam. Gave me a good laugh. It would make a great headine.:D

Abraham

Ah Lads, Lads, ye will have to give up all this calumny and detraction boiling up over our publicly selected and elected politicians.

The reason Bev is back and the reason Sean Haughey has been returned to favor and rewarded with a Ministerial Portfolio (Junior) is because the last Taoiseach wanted to step aside from the top political post in the land having embraced dissidents and disaffected alike in a united party for the good of the country as he stepped away having also ministered on his own behalf as the longest serving Taoiseach. Bev's appointment was in the Taoiseach's gift and it has long been so.

Ye may not like it but it's a well recognised truth that the really great players are more likely to be entrapped, sanctioned and sidelined than the carthorses and for reasons too intricate to explore at this juncture.

Some of ye should pay a little more attention at the University of Life.

Mr.Micro

The reason Bev is back and the reason Sean Haughey has been returned to favor and rewarded with a Ministerial Portfolio (Junior) is because the last Taoiseach wanted to step aside from the top political post in the land having embraced dissidents and disaffected alike in a united party for the good of the country as he stepped away having also ministered on his own behalf as the longest serving Taoiseach. Bev's appointment was in the Taoiseach's gift and it has long been so.

I think it was more of a case what's good for the Party. Its always been the Party first, cronies second and the country last.

Darsad

Personally I dont blame her I would take it too . As previously said I agree and blame the muppets that voted for her .It is the dirty face of parish pump politics.

Irlbo

In any other country in the world,a 'politician' like herself,would be immediately sacked or forced to resign,tried for fraud and any other wrongdoings,and punished accordingly,in some countries she'd be shot or hanged,an absolute disgusting greedy corrupt and immoral individual,she is as bad as the drug dealers and gangsters that inhibit the seedy underworld,shame on anyone that votes for this chancer

RobFowl

She truly is a class act

ejmaztec

I bet she has a hell of a job trying to cover up the laughter lines on her face - perhaps the €40K went on cosmetics.

AlekSmart

After all of the years and billions spent on Judicial Tribunals into many aspects of Irish Political life we get largely nothing....

Then along comes this man Flynn and his daughter who are exposed as being,at best,devoid of ethics and at worst,complicit in serious financial wrongdoing.

And yet we are treated to TV images of the pair of them being chaired around election halls on the shoulders of what can only be described as imbiciles.

Who the hell voted and continues to vote for these "Dynastic" neanderthals...It is sad indeed that 2009 sees Dàil Eireann lose a member with some sense of decency and principle in Tony Gregory whilst simultaneously emptying more feed into the trough of this dreadful woman. (Is this payment subject to the Income Levy ?..perhaps grounds for a clawback clause to be inserted especially for her ?)

When I see or hear of Western based Politicians yet again bemoaning the loss of industry or services in the region I am minded to shrug my shoulders and say "It serves yiz right,what did you expect voting repeatedly for the likes of Pee and Bev".

As the population continues to watch a Taoiseach and Cabinet apparently bereft of realistic ideas or even a half considered survival plan the reality must be dawning that Ireland and it`s people have been raped by successions of Governments since Independence leaving only the likes of the Flynns to smirk down at the rest of us now in the gutter.

Anybody know where one can accquire a tumbril these days....????

ejmaztec

AlekSmart wrote: »

After all of the years and billions spent on Judicial Tribunals into many aspects of Irish Political life we get largely nothing....

Then along comes this man Flynn and his daughter who are exposed as being,at best,devoid of ethics and at worst,complicit in serious financial wrongdoing.

And yet we are treated to TV images of the pair of them being chaired around election halls on the shoulders of what can only be described as imbiciles.

Who the hell voted and continues to vote for these "Dynastic" neanderthals...It is sad indeed that 2009 sees Dàil Eireann lose a member with some sense of decency and principle in Tony Gregory whilst simultaneously emptying more feed into the trough of this dreadful woman. (Is this payment subject to the Income Levy ?..perhaps grounds for a clawback clause to be inserted especially for her ?)

When I see or hear of Western based Politicians yet again bemoaning the loss of industry or services in the region I am minded to shrug my shoulders and say "It serves yiz right,what did you expect voting repeatedly for the likes of Pee and Bev".

As the population continues to watch a Taoiseach and Cabinet apparently bereft of realistic ideas or even a half considered survival plan the reality must be dawning that Ireland and it`s people have been raped by successions of Governments since Independence leaving only the likes of the Flynns to smirk down at the rest of us now in the gutter.

Anybody know where one can accquire a tumbril these days....????

Let 'em walk! They'd still be looking down on us from a tumbril.

jmayo

AlekSmart wrote: »

After all of the years and billions spent on Judicial Tribunals into many aspects of Irish Political life we get largely nothing....

Then along comes this man Flynn and his daughter who are exposed as being,at best,devoid of ethics and at worst,complicit in serious financial wrongdoing.

And yet we are treated to TV images of the pair of them being chaired around election halls on the shoulders of what can only be described as imbiciles.

Who the hell voted and continues to vote for these "Dynastic" neanderthals...

When I see or hear of Western based Politicians yet again bemoaning the loss of industry or services in the region I am minded to shrug my shoulders and say "It serves yiz right,what did you expect voting repeatedly for the likes of Pee and Bev"....

Alek we don't all vote for the brash necked bit**, but there are enough idiots, particularly around the Castlebar area, that would gladly lick her and her fathers ar**s.
I can remember when a state car used to drop off her brother to college in Galway. Of course the kids of the dumb smucks that elected Pee Flynn had to take the bus to Galway.
It probably didn't occurr to them that their taxes allowed sonny to be dropped off in comfort.

A lot of people in Mayo are ashamed to say that we hail from the same county as Beaker, nevermind that she is elected as a representative of our county.
AFAIK she had the audacity to say on Mid West radio that she was taking the 40 grand on behalf of the people of Mayo :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Mr Ed

The systems in place across the whole public sector appears to be shocking.

This is just another example of the inept attitude of the government and indeed the public sector when being accountable for public finances.

We're facing deficits of 8 billion last year, where is it going to end with them all.

I'm losing confidence in this shower to run the country especially when we have a TD claiming 40k because the rules permit it because she was an Independent when she was elected.

The rules are wrong and need to be changed, absolutely farcical.

Heinrich

galwayrush wrote: »

Sadly, we'll never understand that sheep mentality:(

• We are the sheep!
• We elect these people!
• We deserve whatr we get!

When one looks at the train wreck that is Ireland one wonders will we ever get sense.

murphaph

Darragh29 wrote: »

What kind of idiots are electing the Flynn's and their ilk???

Well that's the million dollar question. Flynn et al will keep laughing at the general public so long as they keep electing them. When Michael Lowry was in the sh!t, people went home to Tipp in hordes to vote for them man and he won a landslide.

The electorate is in general easily bought and quite stupid. Politicians take credit for 'getting planning' and all sorts of stuff they have no influence over and people believe them and tell their friends that such and such 'is a grand lad' etc.

Parochial parish pump BS that has this country well and truly f'ed.

murphaph

jmayo wrote: »

AFAIK she had the audacity to say on Mid West radio that she was taking the 40 grand on behalf of the people of Mayo :mad::mad::mad::mad:

You should all write to her and ask for your €0.34 then. Smug piece of work. I'd be embarrased if I came from her neck of the woods too.

Has anyone here ever spoken to a Flynn voter/supporter and asked them, why?

Mr.Micro

Funny how the common denominator with Bev and Pee is always, but always money. Arrogance and a brass neck and wallow into their own importance seems to be a Flynn trait, but if the locals in Castlebar vote for her they must be getting some benefit to the locale or is it just dogged defiance for the sake of it against Dublin, because it sure defies logic.

Darragh29

Mr.Micro wrote: »

or is it just dogged defiance for the sake of it against Dublin, because it sure defies logic.

I think you hit the nail on the head here Mr. M, a certain amount of this is giving the two fingers to the Dublin, "we'll elect whoever we want" mentality.

jank

All politics is local!

Darsad

Just heard her now on radio one defending her position what an arrogant piece of work remind you of the late late interview with the great Pee.Can anybody in Castlebar defend voting for these people.

youcrazyjesus!

murphaph wrote: »

You should all write to her and ask for your €0.34 then. Smug piece of work. I'd be embarrased if I came from her neck of the woods too.

Everyone email her and ask her for their cut.

murphaph

jank wrote: »

All politics is local!

This is true to an extent but it can be combatted by using different systems. I do not like our system of PRSTV whereby we have 'competing' representatives covering the same geographical area (for example, 5 in Mayo I believe). This leads to much more of this parish pump BS than when the whole place elects 1 representative for parliament.

Ireland has also got way too many representatives per capita. 166 in Dail Eireann with 4.4million is 26,500 people per represantative compared to the UK with 646 members of the House of Commons for 61 million people...94,500 people per representative!!! More than three and a half times as many representatives per capita than over there!

So, politics in Ireland is too local.

Abraham

Mayo people have always had a superior attitude in Ireland. It's all down to their history and goes back to Famine times and earlier. It's derived from their finer breeding, greater understanding of native needs, and intuitive marketing skills. They draw their strength from the greats of the past, heroes renowned in song and story, why even the late great ChaH had established a Mayo connection and what an endorsement that must be.
Don't forget the 'Races of Castlebar'.

OK.....'to hell or to Connacht' ala OliverC happened but that only strengthens the Mayo folk because they can truthfully point out that this must mean they come from a purer gene pool while the rest of the plebs derive from the mixed and murkier AngloIrish/Saxon side of humanity.

jank

murphaph wrote: »

This is true to an extent but it can be combatted by using different systems. I do not like our system of PRSTV whereby we have 'competing' representatives covering the same geographical area (for example, 5 in Mayo I believe). This leads to much more of this parish pump BS than when the whole place elects 1 representative for parliament.

Ireland has also got way too many representatives per capita. 166 in Dail Eireann with 4.4million is 26,500 people per represantative compared to the UK with 646 members of the House of Commons for 61 million people...94,500 people per representative!!! More than three and a half times as many representatives per capita than over there!

So, politics in Ireland is too local.

I totally agree with you. Things can get too local but thats the way it is all over the world. If the urban areas in the US decided elections we would always have democratic presidents. You need a balance of rural and city. But yea this country takes the piss, especially when you have fools like her.

paconnors

off topic here. I wonder in the by-election for Tony Gregory's seat will fianna fail, green party, or an indopendent run for it. the first two haven't got a chance as for the indopendent, what's to stop him kissing cowens arse when he gets in the doors of Leinster House. I personally think either fine gael or labour will take the seat.

murphaph

jank wrote: »

I totally agree with you. Things can get too local but thats the way it is all over the world. If the urban areas in the US decided elections we would always have democratic presidents. You need a balance of rural and city. But yea this country takes the piss, especially when you have fools like her.

You have hit the nail on the head by referencing the US. Their system has a large bias in favour of rural America which in turn makes red states....just like ours biases rural Ireland. Look at the leadership they had for the last 8 years. It is a very bad thing IMV.

Urban dwellers generally generate the vast bulk of the wealth of any nation due to them coming together to work in an efficient and productive manner. They 'sacrifice' their personal space and in turn I believe they should have more representation for it.

jank

murphaph wrote: »

Urban dwellers generally generate the vast bulk of the wealth of any nation due to them coming together to work in an efficient and productive manner. They 'sacrifice' their personal space and in turn I believe they should have more representation for it.

Hmmm isnt that a bit strong of a view. A bit 1984ish:cool:

RobFowl

From RTE
Monday, 5 January 2009 15:15
Fianna Fáil TD Beverley Flynn says she will continue to claim the independent TDs allowance.
Speaking to the News at One, Deputy Flynn said she is entitled to the allowance in recognition of the difficulties facing independent TDs being elected to the Dáil.
She said that she had not received the allowance in the previous Dáil, because she was originally elected as a FF TD.
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She said she had upgraded services in her office as an independent TD and had incurred the associated expenses.
Ms Flynn says she is entitled to the allowance under the current legislation, which was introduced by then-Finance Minister Charlie McCreevy.


This lady's not for turning !!

murphaph

I think it's the opposite of 1984, no? You get increased representation for living and working in an urban setting. I wouldn't force anyone at gunpoint to move to an urban setting, just pass the true cost of living in rural Ireland to the occupiers of those one-off houses and let them decide if it's really worth it. Those who choose to move to cities would be rewarded with better services and better representation politically.

turgon

murphaph wrote: »

I think it's the opposite of 1984, no? You get increased representation for living and working in an urban setting. I wouldn't force anyone at gunpoint to move to an urban setting, just pass the true cost of living in rural Ireland to the occupiers of those one-off houses and let them decide if it's really worth it. Those who choose to move to cities would be rewarded with better services and better representation politically.

Im sure if there were no country dwellers wed have no food.

If you want to live in the country you should be allowed to do so, why should the government reward those who dont??

asdasd

but if the locals in Castlebar vote for her they must be getting some benefit to the locale or is it just dogged defiance for the sake of it against Dublin, because it sure defies logic.

I think the people at the rural bottom think that if Dublin 4 gets away with tribunals, the medical cartel, the law cartel, the top jobs in the civil service, and banking bonuses for failed muppets who couldnt run a piggy bank, then the little people should get their share. Or at least some of them should.

Silly I know.

delop

I think it says a lot about the ppl of mayos attitude , She might be a crook , but she is out crook....

Im sure she is just holding tight like usual, it will all blow over soon...