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What would lure you back to the bars?

  • 02-01-2009 7:44pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭


    Aside from the obvious one, cheaper drink...

    Pubs are not as busy as they were 10 & 20 years ago and most of them are empty midweek...so what would make you want to go to them again? There's a pub where I live that runs a board games night every wednesday night...i think that's a great idea personally... but what would work for you?

    Bring back quiz nights?
    Poker?
    Bands?
    Karaoke?

    This is not a bash the pub and club industry industry thread.....instead i'd like you to ask yourselves 2 questions...

    What would make me want to go out to a pub more regularly...
    If I owned a bar what would I do to get the punters in?
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    If i could make myself 20 years younger.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Men-only bars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Pool tables and dart boards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    galwayrush wrote: »
    If i could make myself 20 years younger.:rolleyes:

    I don't understand...are you 120 years of age?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Seriously, a good Rock Bar would help, if i could pick the music.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    biko wrote: »
    Pool tables and dart boards

    I'm from this camp myself...but I'd like there to be about 5-6 dart boards spread about the place. And maybe one main board as a centrepiece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I don't understand...are you 120 years of age?

    I'm just old enough to be pissed off trying to order drink in an overpacked Pub.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,211 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Half their prices, it is the obvious choice but it needs to be said, again.

    Was talking to my uncle there a while back, I was born in 85 so don't remember the last recession but was asking him about what he did when he left school etc.

    Managed to get himself a job as a security guard earning about £4-5 an hour. Pints were about 90p. So he was earning about 5 pints an hour. You'd have to earn €20-25 an hour these days to get that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Cheaper drink is probably the only way and Promotions, when i was in college early 00's, there would be plenty of folk in bars drinking!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    There are so many laws against drinks promotions though....it seems that the bar's hands are tied...but I agree, and it's why i didn't want the thread to be all about it, the drink prices should be reduced immediately. People appreciate that bars are trying to make money and we're also paying for an atmosphere...but we shouldn't be paying more than €4 for a pint of lager. I think if all bars made the decision to cut prices together...then it might be feasible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Jane Doh!


    Nolanger wrote: »
    Men-only bars.

    Would that not be a different type of bar?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Bars that have children STRICLTY NOT allowed in (this is for the childrens sake - not the adults).
    Bars where ALL gambling machines are relocated to the nearist skip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭Bijoux


    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Would that not be a different type of bar?


    All of a sudden, the little old-man pub down the road is apperaing in a new light.....;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Tom65


    Aside from cheaper drink, I think transport costs. It costs me €5 to get the Dart to a pub (return), and the Dart is a crap service that stops at half 11. If I could stay a bit longer in the pub, without having to pay money for a taxi, I'd probably go more often.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭DenMan


    Poker wouldn't be a good idea, especially with alcohol involved. Definitely need band nights (louder the better Rock/Metal) :D

    People just couldn't be bothered during the week anymore especially with the demands of work, family and the outrageous prices. We are getting more like the Americans/Canadians and having house parties, taking alcohol home etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    get rid of the element of scum in pubs and the drunken a**holes.

    publicans (due to financial problems) will allow anyone into a pub now and will keep serving them alcohol as long as they can afford to keep paying and don't cause hassle.

    i agree with another poster asking for darts/pool tables to be brought back into pubs, for me the only problem with that is .... you get people staying on the tables for the whole night - not allowing anyone else to play.

    a decent pub has regulars and takes care of their regulars, couple of free drinks during the night always encourages people back or a free taxi service home, let them know that the management of the pub respects the customers and wants to reward them for their custom.

    just my opinions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Couple of the obvious factors as to why the pubs are quieter:

    pints being relatively more expensive
    cost of a taxi home
    busier "more professional" work environments where hangovers aren't acceptable

    The main reasons for me, however would be the change in geography/demographics - living the far side of the country from most of my friends makes me far less likely to go to the local for a couple mid-week. Even if I lived at home, with house prices forcing young people to move out of the areas they grew up in, my friends most likely wouldn't be living close enough to me for it to be practical for us to meet in the local for a jar of an evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭red_ice


    reasonably priced drink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Bands?
    Karaoke?
    The former gains people, but it has to be a regular thing. The latter drives people away; only the friends and family of the person singing comes.

    =-=

    Pints costing €3 or less. I'm going drinking in a mates later. €20 for the bottle. That would be 3 shots in the pub. The universal €4 a shot is shooting themselves in the foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    You say "aside from the obvious one" but this really is the reason pubs are empty. If pints were €2 a pop do you think the pubs would be empty mid week?

    People don't need excuses to go to the pub. Poker, darts, football on the telly, the after sports beers. People would stay longer if it was cheaper too.

    Even if they put pole dancers in every bar in country 7 nights a week. Pubs would probably be busier all right, but, people wouldn't have any more money to spend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭_JOE_


    Fully agree with the lack of pool tables/dart boards. You rarely see these in pubs today, and even when you do, they all seem to be "private members only"...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    A decent pint of beer for €4 in a nice pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Jane Doh!


    Was in a Pub in Cork a few years back, downstairs of the family home tranformed into a cosy pub. Pool table, open fire and locals can help themselves to a pint cause the bar staff are drinking with them. Normally what you would see in the country.

    We need more of them......:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Depends on the type of pub:

    Rural - Freen mini-bus at the start/end of the night. This could work out a real winner for the publican as they can say "Pick up at XX only, Drop of at XX only (end of the night)" which means the punter will stay in the pub for the whole night, but will feel they are getting a good deal as their transport is sorted

    Quiet/Relaxed pubs - Free finger food

    Disco-pubs (Can't believe I said that word) - As said loads of times, cheaper drinks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭sunnyjim


    Karoke - Tacky
    Darts - Hell yeah
    pool table if it could be somewhere appropriate? - Sweet, but try not charging 2 euro a game!

    Lower prices? Well, that's the reason we don't go to pubs anymore!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Well I'll tell you what I love about my local.

    Its got local, Irish bar staff!.

    The bar staff are 'proper' bar staff, ie they've done apprenticeships and made bartending a career, as a result the owner doesn't need to employ doorstaff as the lads behind the bar can call the shots on who is or isn't served.

    They also know the craic and how to have it.

    There's a dart board too, and a TV with the remote left on the bar!. And get this, a shop too!.

    It also serves everyone if your old enough to drink a pint, so I drink in the company of farm labourers, members of the travelling community to business people to local 'heads' and in over ten years there I haven't seen one row.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭abitlonely


    yore ma?







    and cheap pints. That price freeze thing is totally illegal :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,219 ✭✭✭invincibleirish


    Allow people smoke Weed.

    Inside. No tobacco of course. That gives the barstaff cancer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Jane Doh!


    Dart boards, pool tables, gambling, TV (any kinda sport) and lap dancing poles.....

    Boys n their toys :D

    If Carlsburg did pubs.........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭Koyasan


    I got the last two years of the decent pub scene, and predicted and watched them go downhill from then to now. A few weeks back I was in Belfast and was reminded of those last two years of glory.

    What happened?

    Michael MacDowell.

    All of the regulations he introduced should be repealed. Pubs could then make selected drinks cheaper at specified times.

    But the primary reasons we started to stay away from pubs was that we felt offended by the notion of paying to enter (especially a pub such as Whelans after 10:30) and offended by the prices charged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    can someone clear up the legalities of the cheapest that bars can sell drink at?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭niceirishfella


    Cant Believe no one has said this ;

    FREE BEER!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    Quieter music or no music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    1. Poker
    2. Poker
    3. Cheap booze
    4. More men!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    not turning up the music to an idiotic level on the dot of 8pm. I have often walked out as soon as this has happened.

    Bar staff who actually serve customers rather than just pose and try to chat up female customers

    More over 25s bars. I hate places where there are gangs of screaming 18 year old drinking shots, roaring and shouting and making a fool of themsleves at 9pm


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    We may have the perfect pub after a few threads. Just goes to show how hard it is for the publican...some want music the heavier the better...some want quiet music...some don't want any music at all....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    some want music the heavier the better...some want quiet music...some don't want any music at all....

    It depends, if I know there's band playing then I'll either go for the band or aviod the place because of the band. If I'm going for a few pints with friends the last thing I want to hear is music blarring so that I can't hear what the person next to me is saying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    We may have the perfect pub after a few threads. Just goes to show how hard it is for the publican...some want music the heavier the better...some want quiet music...some don't want any music at all....

    Solution. Muli-level pubs.:cool: A room for all tastes, or personal mood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    DRRRRIIIIINNNNKKK !!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    This is not a bash the pub and club industry industry thread.....instead i'd like you to ask yourselves 2 questions...

    What would make me want to go out to a pub more regularly...
    If I owned a bar what would I do to get the punters in?

    Topless bar women FTW.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    More over 25s bars. I hate places where there are gangs of screaming 18 year old drinking shots, roaring and shouting and making a fool of themsleves at 9pm

    Sure how else is Snyper supposed to meet women girls? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Solution. Muli-level pubs.:cool: A room for all tastes, or personal mood.

    I have been in a few places like this. And a lot of times they play the same sh!te pop music on all floors


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Apparently the main drinkers...or the biggest spenders...are the 18-23 age groups....

    Isn't it generally true that this age group, expecially the girls, like the crap pop music...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    I have been in a few places like this. And a lot of times they play the same sh!te pop music on all floors

    That won't be allowed in the A.H. Super Pub. One level will be reserved for a quiet night out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Cheaper drink and the laws changed so promotions can be done

    I thought the cafe bar idea would have been good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Pool tables, table quizzes, poker nights, live bands, happy hours, bigger selection of beers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,160 ✭✭✭✭banshee_bones


    Yes a cafe bar would be much better or like in Italy gelatarias which sell ice cream coffee and alcohol. :)

    In my group of friends half of us like to drink they other half would prefer coffee most nights but all the same they want to hang out with us and chat but no bars are into serving tea and or coffee past a certain hour.
    And sitting in a coffe shop for a long time is just painful coz there no big comfy couches just rickety wooden chairs. ANd if said coffee shop is full theres nowhere to get even a cup of coffee and or a slice of cake after 9pm! Its a disgrace! So the best of both worlds i say. Oh and of course music but not so much that i cant hear my friends talk!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    Fizman wrote: »
    Topless bar women FTW.

    Topless men too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Wider choice of beer in particular real ales(bitter) might get me back again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Properly priced Guinness that is pulled properly.

    And get ****ing rid of tvs from pubs. Too distracting. :mad:


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