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Munster v Ulster at Thomond Park, predictions anyone?
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02-01-2009 6:50pm#1
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I think hurley is good, but earls should be at 15. Much more creative, and gives more confidence when ball is in his hands. Howlett and earls could form a wicked counter attacking partnership, with dowling to do the 'work' (As much work as a winger can do
:p)!
Ps. Niether Hurley or Earls are bad players, infact both are brilliant players that will be refined, both are very raw talents in terms of International and hieneken cup. ML is where these players have to develop fully, and BOTH have to play these games to build 'Big Game' Temperment!
PPs. If your a supporter why would you belittle young players who are rising stars??0 -
I think hurley is good, but earls should be at 15. Much more creative, and gives more confidence when ball is in his hands. Howlett and earls could form a wicked counter attacking partnership, with dowling to do the 'work' (As much work as a winger can do:p)!
Ps. Niether Hurley or Earls are bad players, infact both are brilliant players that will be refined, both are very raw talents in terms of International and hieneken cup. ML is where these players have to develop fully, and BOTH have to play these games to build 'Big Game' Temperment!
PPs. If your a supporter why would you belittle young players who are rising stars??
Hurley looks like he won't make the grade judging by almost all his performances for Munster and he is 24 years old so is hardly a youngster.It seems, even in these professional times, there is an advantage to playing for Cork Con to say the least.Earls is an excellent prospect with a lot of talent who just needs more experience.He is however IMO not a full back.He can do a job there though and offensively is a serious weapon but he does have defensive lapses or frailties which may or may not be sorted as he gains more exposure.Ultimately his position appears to be at 13 but I would be in favour of playing him on the wing with Howlett moving to full back.Great player as Howlett is/was his lack of sheer pace is not helping him on the wing now.I think Munster would be best served by having Warwick at 12.The control,kicking,distribution and decision/play making he would offer there would be in stark contrast to the headless activities of Mafi who is incapable of doing anything other than attempting to dance his way through, which sometimes works a treat to be fair, and when this fails he reverts to a bash it up the middle game.He rarely passes effectively simply because he is not able to.
Just because you are a supporter you should not be blind to the failings of the players regardless of what age they are.
As to the question I believe Munster will edge a tight hard fought game.It could come down to penalty goal kicking and ROG has the advantage here even if the rest of his game is not in tip top shape recently.The danger I see is if Ulster manage to get a good bit of possession their creatively superior midfield with Wallace and the outstanding Cave in very good form.The main downsides I see for Ulster are Boss(can be decent enough but has the ability to have a nightmare), the full back Schifcoske who looks a bit dodgy and the front row which in the absence of Best could be under a lot of pressure.Nagusa and Trimble on the wings are both dangerous runners.I think it might be a mistake from Matt Williams not selecting the excellent Pollock as well as he would have a field day against a good but not brilliant Munster back row.Of course he wanted Dawson to captain the side in the absence of Best and of course Pollock will probably come on in the second half.Ferris I'd say will love this type of game and he is capable of doing a lot of damage.Hmmmm I've nearly talked myself into changing my mind and predicting an Ulster victory but for their away record of the last few years.0 -
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What crap. Its posts like this that insure this forum has no rationale debate.
Please name 3 fullbacks out of your "dozens" in the AIL that are better than Hurley. I cant even think of one, and I know the league very well...
He's been a standout performer at that level for a number of seasons now and has also done well in A games this year.
What depth of players do you feel Irish rugby has to choose from exactly that we can write off a guy at 24 who has just completed his first 12 months on a full time pro contract?A guy who ousted Sean Payne,one of the most consistent fullback performers in Europe the past five years, from the Munster team.
Do you not feel Toulouse,the best team in France last year, may have been able to target a"lost cause"? Explain to me how any team can win a HC final with one at fullback actually, can you?
They did every ball they shipped to him they won it back, he had a nightmare and his team mates bailed him out.
Look at this lovely positional play by him just amazing
Dont forget his highlight reel here
Gets even worse when you look at the CC where he was made a fool of defensively and in the air.
If you can start listing stand out performances by Hurley go ahead i doubt there are many.0 -
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