With 93 around the corner . . .

Perfect fit

. . . Id just like to wish The Tank Egan best of luck in his debut fight v John Hathaway! Im sure he will do all his friends, family, fans and fellow country men proud when he steps into the octagon for the 1st of many exciting UFC fights that will come from Tom.

www.thetankegan.com

bjj-fighter

War The Tank!SBG for life!

Pride Fighter

Egan for the KO, I might put money on it.

Keith186

Never knew there were any Irish fighters in UFC, fair play & good luck.

Derek Coleman

And I hope he gets the recognition he deserves aswell from the Irish public. Bernard Dunne is recognised by young and old all over Ireland. So why can't Tom.

I would love to see him appear on Tubridy or The Late Late after his WIN.

No pressure!

Professey Chin

Derek Coleman wrote: »

And I hope he gets the recognition he deserves aswell from the Irish public. Bernard Dunne is recognised by young and old all over Ireland. So why can't Tom.

I would love to see him appear on Tubridy or The Late Late after his WIN.

No pressure!

I'd hate to see him on either of those. Lets put him on somethin decent :pac:
WAR TANK!!:D

AARRRGH

Fair play to him.

What's with all the religious stuff on his website though?

MartyMcFly84

His a young man who has faith and is thankful for what he has. Fairly simple really.

bjj-fighter

Yeah Im against all the religious stuff but Toms a great guy and fighter so why should anyone care.

Perfect fit

exactly someones faith is there own and it should not be brought into question so no more on that please!:D

ginoginelli

Its great to see an Irishman finally in the ufc. Best of luck to Tom and hope to see an exciting fight.

AARRRGH

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

His a young man who has faith and is thankful for what he has. Fairly simple really.

bjj-fighter wrote: »

Yeah Im against all the religious stuff but Toms a great guy and fighter so why should anyone care.

Perfect fit wrote: »

exactly someones faith is there own and it should not be brought into question so no more on that please!:D

I'm sorry, but it means he's weird.

How anyone in this day and age can believe that nonsense is real... WTF.

And to plaster it all over your MMA website?

I can't repect that sort of person. It's moronic.

...

If my comments above make you angry, think of this: would you agree with me if he was a Scientologist and had Scientology crap all over his website? If the answer is yes, you're a hypocrite.

Perfect fit

that is the most disrespectful thing i have ever heard.Im not even going to get into it, this is an MMA forum to discuss mma and Tom Egans upcoming fight, not for you to air your religious views or past judgement on someone elses, if you wish to do that im sure there is a religion forum!

AARRRGH

Perfect fit wrote: »

that is the most disrespectful thing i have ever heard.Im not even going to get into it, this is an MMA forum to discuss mma and Tom Egans upcoming fight, not for you to air your religious views or past judgement on someone elses, if you wish to do that im sure there is a religion forum!

Tom Egan is the one talking about his religion. I am just commenting on it.

If you go to his website you will see it is all over the place.

The guy should stick to MMA and keep his "faith" to himself. It's embarrassing.

There are many people who will think like me. He's not doing himself any favours.

Kent Brockman

Perfect fit wrote: »

exactly someones faith is there own and it should not be brought into question so no more on that please!:D

In fairness it is a website to be viewed by all and it will undoubtedly be viewed by many more people as he becomes more well-known. This is not the 1st time I have viewed his web site but the religious stuff is the first thing I noticed (and I must admit it was with 'raised eye brow').
It will obviously get reaction, maybe that is why it is there?

Perfect fit

again im not here to discuss toms religon or his website, if you feel there is an issue with his website feel free to contact tom threw the contact page on it.

Kent Brockman

Perfect fit wrote: »

again im not here to discuss toms religon or his website, if you feel there is an issue with his website feel free to contact tom threw the contact page on it.

You posted the link to his website AARRGGGH questioned the very obvious religious quotes on it and thats how we got where we are now.
I would rather not discuss religion on the net either but the website is full of religious quotes.
If the website had naked women on it we would be discussing that instead:D

Best of luck to 'the tank'. Very excited about this fight and hope it all goes according to plan!

Judomad

AARRRGH wrote: »

I'm sorry, but it means he's weird.

How anyone in this day and age can believe that nonsense is real... WTF.

And to plaster it all over your MMA website?

I can't repect that sort of person. It's moronic.

...

If my comments above make you angry, think of this: would you agree with me if he was a Scientologist and had Scientology crap all over his website? If the answer is yes, you're a hypocrite.

Hold on a second......who are you to question anybody on here?? Tom believes everything he says to be true and look where it has gotten him, he is a 20 year old lad living the dream of most mma fighters in this country, whether its to do with his beliefs or not something has worked in his favour, nobody is here questioning your rediculous name or anything but Toms website is Toms website, wheres your website? wheres your UFC contract? Wheres your unbeaten MMA record???
Your are an envious hater of Tom and not wanted on this forum so im sure i speak for plenty of people when i say "Go the F*CK away from this thread and go sit under ur rock somewhere else"

Jealousy is a horrible disease.......

AARRRGH

Judomad wrote: »

Hold on a second......who are you to question anybody on here?? Tom believes everything he says to be true and look where it has gotten him, he is a 20 year old lad living the dream of most mma fighters in this country, whether its to do with his beliefs or not something has worked in his favour, nobody is here questioning your rediculous name or anything but Toms website is Toms website, wheres your website? wheres your UFC contract? Wheres your unbeaten MMA record???
Your are an envious hater of Tom and not wanted on this forum so im sure i speak for plenty of people when i say "Go the F*CK away from this thread and go sit under ur rock somewhere else"

Jealousy is a horrible disease.......

WTF.

I am not jealous. Did you read any of my posts?

1. People can believe anything they want (it's their life), but choosing to live your life based around something which is obviously a fraud... I cannot understand that. I understand most people are like Tom (people like me are in the minority) and I understand most people are incapable of change or opening their mind; perhaps I should have written my words with a bit more sensitivity.
2. If this is something he is doing on purpose, e.g. if it is known a large percentage of MMA fans are religious and this will boost his profile then I say fair play to him. However if it's not some marketing ploy, I think he really should keep his beliefs to himself. I run lots of websites but I don't plaster them with bits of information from my own personal beliefs. Why? Because that would be weird.

I have no interest in becoming an MMA fighter. I'm not sure where you got that idea from. I just don't think he is marketing himself very well, as I personally find his website quite strange.

Please don't interpret everything as hate or jealously. People have opinions for reasons other than those two emotions.

AARRRGH

Kent Brockman wrote: »

If the website had naked women on it we would be discussing that instead:D

Correct. But of course, that would mean we're jealous!

Pride Fighter

I do not believe in religion at all and I did find the quotes strange. However it is his website and he can do what he likes. His belief in god (however strange it seems) gives him a psychological boost. That can only be a good thing. A lot of fighters are religious, our own Katie Taylor reads the bible during boxing tourneys and Matt Hughes is extremely religious too.
Good luck to Tom, I hope he wins. There is a thing called tact and I dont think AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH showed it. That is not good.

Raze_them_all

It's his belief. Leave it at that. I'm an athiest I can respect Toms beliefs quite obviously you can't.Do you know Tom? How can you state

AARRRGH wrote: »

I'm sorry, but it means he's weird.

How anyone in this day and age can believe that nonsense is real... WTF.

And to plaster it all over your MMA website?

I can't repect that sort of person. It's moronic.

Keep quiet the thread was started to wish Tom luck with the fight not his religious beliefs, stop pulling this thread off topic.

Judomad

AARRRGH wrote: »

WTF.

I am not jealous. Did you read any of my posts?

1. People can believe anything they want (it's their life), but choosing to live your life based around something which is obviously a fraud... I cannot understand that. I understand most people are like Tom (people like me are in the minority) and I understand most people are incapable of change or opening their mind; perhaps I should have written my words with a bit more sensitivity.
2. If this is something he is doing on purpose, e.g. if it is known a large percentage of MMA fans are religious and this will boost his profile then I say fair play to him. However if it's not some marketing ploy, I think he really should keep his beliefs to himself. I run lots of websites but I don't plaster them with bits of information from my own personal beliefs. Why? Because that would be weird.

I have no interest in becoming an MMA fighter. I'm not sure where you got that idea from. I just don't think he is marketing himself very well, as I personally find his website quite strange.

Please don't interpret everything as hate or jealously. People have opinions for reasons other than those two emotions.

i will probably get an infraction for this but JON i am sorry in advance but AAARRRGGGHHHHH you are a clown, seriously, go swallow the back end of my bo!!ox............stop being a jealous fool, Tom's website is his website, calling him a fraud for having his religious beliefs on his website is sheer ignorance, why is having his religious beliefs on his website "strange" what is strange about being religious, i amn't relgious in the slightest but Tom clearly is and i dont think anybody on here has the right to criticise tom about anything, he has achieved more already than most people ever will......
Can we please go back on topic now and
WISH ALL THE BEST TO TOM ON HOPEFULLY WHAT WILL BE A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL UFC CAREER....will be there cheering for you pal...

Pride Fighter

An old saying.
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

Roper

AARRRGH wrote: »

I'm sorry, but it means he's weird.

How anyone in this day and age can believe that nonsense is real... WTF.

And to plaster it all over your MMA website?

I can't repect that sort of person. It's moronic.

...

If my comments above make you angry, think of this: would you agree with me if he was a Scientologist and had Scientology crap all over his website? If the answer is yes, you're a hypocrite.

I'm what you might call a militant atheist, and I disagree strongly with Tom's religious beliefs but he's never tried to convert me nor I him when we've met. His religious views don't make him a "moron", but you saying that he is on a topic wishing him good luck in his fight debut makes you an ignoramus.

As for the comparison with Scientology, bad rep it may have, but I don't think the catholic church asks for your bank details.

Tom,
You're a smashing fighter and you'll be a great ambassador for Irish MMA. As for the religious stuff, I think it only counts if you thank Jesus before you thank Kav

Barry

AARRRGH

Raze_them_all wrote: »

It's his belief. Leave it at that. I'm an athiest I can respect Toms beliefs quite obviously you can't.Do you know Tom? How can you state

If you think about what Christianity preaches, and then imagine not only believing that but living your life according to those beliefs... that's just madness.

Yes, Tom can believe whatever he wants, but that does not change the fact that he lives his life according to some mumbo jumbo. That implies he is either brainwashed, stupid, or mentally ill.

I know my words are harsh, but it is not possible an intelligent, open minded, mentally healthy person could believe and live by the teachings of Christianity.

Anyway, the point I was trying to make was I think it is very odd that someone would advertise his religious beliefs all over his website.

Judomad wrote: »

i will probably get an infraction for this but JON i am sorry in advance but AAARRRGGGHHHHH you are a clown, seriously, go swallow the back end of my bo!!ox............stop being a jealous fool, Tom's website is his website, calling him a fraud for having his religious beliefs on his website is sheer ignorance, why is having his religious beliefs on his website "strange" what is strange about being religious, i amn't relgious in the slightest but Tom clearly is and i dont think anybody on here has the right to criticise tom about anything, he has achieved more already than most people ever will......
Can we please go back on topic now and
WISH ALL THE BEST TO TOM ON HOPEFULLY WHAT WILL BE A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL UFC CAREER....will be there cheering for you pal...

I'm not jealous! WTF man, will you think about what I'm writing and what you're writing. I am sure he is a great fighter and I hope he wins every fight he ever faces. I have no issue with his MMA career.

I didn't call him a fraud. Seriously, you need to read my posts. You are totally incorrect in what you are saying.

Pride Fighter wrote: »

An old saying.
If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing.

I would generally agree with this. I previously acknowledged I should have worded my posts are bit better. But whether or not I write politely, the same message still applies.

Roper wrote: »

His religious views don't make him a "moron", but you saying that he is on a topic wishing him good luck in his fight debut makes you an ignoramus.

Brainwashed, moron, stupid... take your pick.

Anyway, I interpreted the topic as an advert for his website (the topic is by his webmaster and sponsor) rather than a "good luck"...

...

EDIT: I've re-read some of my posts and I've been very harsh. I apologise for this. I should have worded my thoughts differently.

Perfect fit

AARRRGH wrote: »

If you think about what Christianity preaches, and then imagine not only believing that but living your life according to those beliefs... that's just madness.

Thats what your looking for.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=526

As for the post being started by his sponsor as an advert, im one of toms best mates and wanted to wish him luck and get a bit of public support going

oh and i would love for you to meet tom and see how quickly your opinion changes on him being a "brainwashed moron".

Tim_Murphy

Thats what your looking for.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=526

You posed the link the website here so there's no reason it shouldn't be discussed here IMO.

As for the post being started by his sponsor as an advert, im one of toms best mates and wanted to wish him luck and get a bit of public support going

oh and i would love for you to meet tom and see how quickly your opinion changes on him being a "brainwashed moron".

I've met Tom a few times and I think I trained with him once or twice and he is a nice lad.

That said I think that anybody who goes to the bother of getting somebody to do up a website for them after they've had 6 fights deserved to be slagged.

If someone wants to proclaim their faith on their website good for them but it's pretty stupid for people to start getting annoyed about others discussing it after the link to the site has been posted on a discussion forum (there's a hint in the name). Personally I think it looks a bit silly, and coupled with the posed pictures more than a little melodramatic but hey each to their own and all that.

That said, when I get around to doing my website I might drop one or two quotes in, discreetly of course.
Maybe something from Exodus

If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, 21 but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

or maybe something from Leviticus

For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

:rolleyes:

jughead202

jeez guys chill ,if he is religious thats up to him ,the way he wants to live,
just wish him luck ,like robinson and all the other who got that far ,from our island

Tim_Murphy

I'm what you might call a militant atheist,

What's a 'militant atheist'? You bombed any buildings recently?

Roper

Tim_Murphy wrote: »

What's a 'militant atheist'? You bombed any buildings recently?

That would be a military atheist.

siochain

Having know Tom during his young kickboxing years I have to say he is one of the soundest level headed young guy's around. He works really hard and is an example to all aspiring athletes and will be a great ambassador for the sport.

Tom, I sincerely wish you the best of luck and will be there to cheer you on, on the night

slicus ricus

Want to wish Tom all the best of luck at UFC 93, it will be great to see an irish lad in UFC. Have only seen poor quality youtube footage of him fighting, but from what i've heard, he's an excellent fighter with bucket loads of potential.

It's extremely disapointing that people have used this thread to needlessly insult the mans beliefs - Fair play to him is what i say, he is entitled to belief in what he wants. Who is anyone to question anyones beliefs? It's not like there's a proven right or wrong!

Anyway, looking forward to UFC 93 and hopefully a winning start to the UFC career of the Tank Egan.

AARRRGH

slicus ricus wrote: »

It's extremely disapointing that people have used this thread to needlessly insult the mans beliefs - Fair play to him is what i say, he is entitled to belief in what he wants. Who is anyone to question anyones beliefs? It's not like there's a proven right or wrong!

Well, I guessed the purpose of this thread was to advertise his website, so I critiqued his website.

I would imagine if my websites (see my signature) were covered in quotes from the fairy lord, you would also think I was a bit of a nutter...

Basically I think the purpose of a personal website such as thetankegan.com should be to market yourself, so it makes sense to exclude any irrelevant/controversial details. This applies doubly to religious stuff.

siochain

AARRRGH wrote: »

Well, I guessed the purpose of this thread was to advertise his website, so I critiqued his website.

crap you critiqued him personally

Several posters on the MMA forum know Tom and or trained\sparred with him and would genuinely like to wish him well. Others who don’t know him but follow MMA I’m sure would be delighted to wish him well, even those who don’t follow MMA would probably like to wish a fellow Irish man well when he’s heading into an international sports arena for the first time regardless of his beliefs . But that would be most normal open minded people.

You have come on here and personally attacked some one you don’t even know by using words like brainwashed, stupid, mentally ill, he's weird, and embarrassing.

You also mention several times about having an ‘open mind’ can you not take your own advice and have an open mind to someone else’s beliefs???

There are other forums when you can specifically vent your issues with Christianity. I suggest you sling your hook else where and stop taking this tread off track.

AARRRGH

siochain wrote: »

crap you critiqued him personally

Well, someone who plasters their website in Christian quotes is obviously a very religious person.

There are many books and studies about why people are religious. They don't make nice reading.

Therefore, in my opinion, plastering your website in religious quotes suggests you have issues.

I'm sure he's a lovely guy btw, and I wish him well.

siochain wrote: »

You also mention several times about having an ‘open mind’ can you not take your own advice and have an open mind to someone else’s beliefs???

I know I am probably wasting my time here, but it takes an open mind to have my opinion. It is easy to accept weirdness as "normal", i.e. most Irish people think a strong Christian belief is "normal" because we are brought up that way. My way of thinking requires an open mind as I am not thinking like the pack. You know?

siochain wrote: »

There are other forums when you can specifically vent your issues with Christianity. I suggest you sling your hook else where and stop taking this tread off track.

The thread was started by his webmaster and links to his website. It's obvious it was an advert for his website... I am critiquing his website and saying, in my opinion, it makes him look weird. I am allowed have an opinion...?

siochain

man your user name is very appropriate,

I won't contribute further to taking this tread off track by answering your last post. If you want to continue this discussion open another tread in some other forum and stop taking this off track even though its too late now as its lost its good intention.

AARRRGH

siochain wrote: »

man your user name is very appropriate,

I've explained this in other posts.

I like the sound it makes.

AARRRGH, you know, like you've fallen off a cliff.

ch252

Best of luck to Tom, it's clear he's giving this everything he's got. It will be a great match-up

Derek Coleman

Seriously.... nobody mention religion anymore. Seriously. Give it up, just stop.

The 2 week count down begins. Can't wait for the event and can't wait to get home later that night and watch it on sky plus. (only live down the road, yipee).

I'm gonna be hoping the main event card runs short and Tom's fight gets shown on TV.

Nothingcompares

nah.

Best of Luck to Tom. I think he has a great opportunity I know what ever happens he'll do his best and has a great chance to get a finish (how about a KO or sub of the night $:).

But sure while we're all wishing the Tank best wishes why not talk about his "personality". That's how the MMA game is going . I respect Tom's beliefs and I share some of them but I also respect other people's right to call them a crock of ****. Whether this is the time or the place is another question but I don't beleive in on-topic conversation so why not.

Tom by anaconda round 2!

Perfect fit

Nothingcompares wrote: »

nah.

Tom by anaconda round 2!

lol love the prediction, ill go for Tom by first round tko via some nice gnp

ch252

Ill join ya with that preditction Perfect! Can't wait now, although it is still a bit dodge as to whether or not I'll be going:(

lafors

AARRRGH wrote: »

AARRRGH, you know, like you've fallen off a cliff.

More like "AARRRGH stop filling this thread with rubbish and respect the guy for what he is", an Irish MMA fighter who is about to fight with the elite in his sport, and not bash his beliefs!
I can't believe someone with nearly 7,500 posts could be this disrespectful.

I can't speak for any others here but my interpretation of the OP was to wish Tom good luck and he posted his site for anyone who didn't know him. I didn't see anything asking for critisism on his site or on his beliefs.

Good luck Tom in your debut in the top tier of MMA!

ginoginelli

Tom by d auld triangle in round 3!

Judomad

Perfect fit wrote: »

lol love the prediction, ill go for Tom by first round tko via some nice gnp

+1

john kavanagh

the higher you go up the more people who will try to pull you back down

- just reminded to me by ais but think geoff thompson said it?

its so 'irish' to sit around and critique the guys website/beliefs...instead of focusing on the fact he's the first guy from the republic to represent their country in the pinnacle of their chosen sport. and also being the youngest fighter on the UFC roster.

tom is looking the best i've ever seen him and i'm very confident he'll get the 'W'


rant....

there's nothing as boring as a Athiest trying to convert an Believer or vice versa. yes its on HIS website, if you dont like it....here's a crazy idea...dont go on it! ironically its also very stupid to think that because someone has religious beliefs they are therefore 'stupid'.

now this is coming from hitchens no.1 fan here, also watch/read anything with dawkins, harris, maher etc in it (my fav website) and i'm very confident in my lack of belief but i, like tom, dont feel the need to impress those views upon anybody else. i live with tom mon-fri and we dont sit around trying to convert each other...he's too busy doing fonejacker impressions

but if he thanks jesus before he thanks me then he can get jesus to hold pads for him for this next training camp lol

live and let live

Derek Coleman

Ha. I was thinking the same thing about him thanking jesus!! lol.

And I didn't know it till now that he's the youngest guy on the roster. Excellent.

Perfect fit

john kavanagh wrote: »

- he's too busy doing fonejacker impressions

Ans lets admit there scarishly good

rovert

Man this thread is so annoying given its original intent. Ireland has a chance of having it's own national MMA star, our own Bisping in a way and we get bogged down in this stuff. Would people here continue this carry on if they saw Matt Hamill talking about being deaf or Gina Corano talking about being a woman on their websites?

Tom will be appearing on F4WOnline's Tough Talk radio show in what as being billed as his first audio interview which should be fun. The show does have a profile among the MMA community so positive things are coming his way even before he fights in the UFC. Everyone here should share that too. We will all benefit if he succeeds.

bjj-fighter

rovert wrote: »

Would people here continue this carry on if they saw Matt Hamill talking about being deaf or Gina Corano talking about being a woman on their websites?

Thats just ridiculous,how can you compare being deaf or being a woman to believing in god and posting it all over his website?