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Any VMWARE training in Dublin?

  • 23-12-2008 6:20pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭


    Just wondering if there is any training center that proposes VMWARE training to prepare for the VCP certification?

    Cheers in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭pan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    pan wrote: »
    Yea, there's a few like

    www.SureSkills.com/VMware-Training ( I did the course with these)

    Best of Luck with it
    pan


    Were they good?
    Thanks for the links mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭pan


    yes would recommend!
    The focus is on the course (run by consultant types), not much said about the exam or types of questions, but once you have the course done the VCP should be fairly easy after 1-2 weeks study. I've yet to do exam myself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    How much did the course set you back?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭pan


    I think it was €2300 (company paided)
    Call or check their website for exact prices.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    pan wrote: »
    I think it was €2300 (company paided)
    Call or check their website for exact prices.

    Thanks for that. Must give them a call.

    Just one more question - have you found it to be beneficial job wise?

    I rolled out VMi3 here in the last few weeks with some thin clients for testing and alls going good. I have a reasonable amount of experience with it so I wouldn't mind getting certified at all.



    Cheers,


    iRock


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 190 ✭✭pan


    Likewise I've been using VMi3 before doing the course and while you can pick up most things yourself, it was nice to spend a few days dedeciated to it without distraction on the theory behind VM.

    Haven't looked for a job yet with it, but I say it's highly regarded and more so as time go forward!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭NullZer0


    pan wrote: »
    Likewise I've been using VMi3 before doing the course and while you can pick up most things yourself, it was nice to spend a few days dedeciated to it without distraction on the theory behind VM.

    Haven't looked for a job yet with it, but I say it's highly regarded and more so as time go forward!

    Cheers for the info.

    I see that most of the VCP jobs (which usually require MCSE/CCNA or both aswel) are offering more. Looks like a worthwhile investment!

    Something I definately need to think about. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    There is very little amount of VCP around.
    In UK alone there is a significant amount of virtualisation projects on ESX for obvious reasons...

    But keep in mind ESX is just a tool, no experience on Windows/Linux/Network infrastructure will not help you to find a job as a VMWARE specialist.
    Everything is about sizing/scoping/architecture/design.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    True, but its recommended that you are not afraid of Linux to be good with VMs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Just bumping this thread!

    I was looking to do a VMware course but I don't have the luxury of having a company pay for me unfortunately.

    Does anyone know if FAS pay a percentage off these course for unemployed people?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭TestLink


    Any idea what is the VMware VCP4 Exam certification fee?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    ITguru wrote: »
    Any idea what is the VMware VCP4 Exam certification fee?

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭TestLink


    qwertz wrote: »

    Any idea what is the VMware VCP4 Exam certification fee?
    Yes.

    How much is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Keedowah


    As in how much does it cost to take the test? I think its about €100. You book it through the prometric site and you can sit it in an exam centre like New Horizons.

    You will have to have completed the Install & Configure course first thought and this costs about 2600 (or about 2300 if your company pay for it (think they may need to be partners to avail of the discount)).

    Will work be paying for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    Keedowah wrote: »
    As in how much does it cost to take the test? I think its about €100. You book it through the prometric site and you can sit it in an exam centre like New Horizons.

    You will have to have completed the Install & Configure course first thought and this costs about 2600 (or about 2300 if your company pay for it (think they may need to be partners to avail of the discount)).

    Will work be paying for it?

    It's ~€140 for the exam.

    You don't need to do any official classroom training to sit and hopefully pass the exam but you only get the VCP certification awarded from VMware if you do.

    Three courses qualify you for the VCP certification.

    I did my VMware training in Sureskills and the trainer (Andrew) was very good. The four-day course (incl. lunch) was a little below 2k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    I would love to do the VCP but I doubt my employer would pay for it even though our production environment is running on VMWare and I am responsible for administrating it.

    I am trying to figure out if it is worth doing myself. I am thinking I will study for the exam and sit it and look at doing the training course afterwards if I need the actual qualification.

    I wonder will employers accept that you have passed the exam even though you haven't done a course? Does anyone know if there are timelimits imposed on the VCP e.g. like between sitting the exam and doing training or how long the vcp qualification lasts for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    You can always state VMware Certified Professional on vSphere 4 (exam passed) on your profile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭TestLink


    I think you have to attend an authorised training session before attending the certifying exam. Plz correct me if I am wrong...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    ITguru wrote: »
    I think you have to attend an authorised training session before attending the certifying exam. Plz correct me if I am wrong...
    Yes, thats what I want to know for sure too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    axer wrote: »
    Yes, thats what I want to know for sure too.

    No, you don't need to do the course to take the exam but if you want to become a VCP then you need to take the approved course as well.

    Passing the exam is only one of the steps. The course is the other but one is not a prerequisite of the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    I got some quotes from varies training centres in Dublin and these are the current prices:

    VMware vSphere: Fast Track (5 day course) = €2500
    VMware vSphere: Install, Configure, Manage (4 day course) = €1800
    VMware vSphere: Troubleshooting (4 day course) = €1800

    I'm a Windows Systems Administrator that has never used VMware before but I was looking at getting trained up and get some hands on experience so in that regard which course would be best suited to me? I'm thinking that the Install, Configure, Manage would be a good starting point, has anyone done this or recommend it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    Raekwon wrote: »
    I got some quotes from varies training centres in Dublin and these are the current prices:

    VMware vSphere: Fast Track (5 day course) = €2500
    VMware vSphere: Install, Configure, Manage (4 day course) = €1800
    VMware vSphere: Troubleshooting (4 day course) = €1800

    I'm a Windows Systems Administrator that has never used VMware before but I was looking at getting trained up and get some hands on experience so in that regard which course would be best suited to me? I'm thinking that the Install, Configure, Manage would be a good starting point, has anyone done this or recommend it?


    I'm in a similar position,recently finished a contract and waiting word of another one..Which of the above courses\training centres would people recommend, I would normally do the research myself, but I would be paying the full amount myself so would appreciate any input\advice...I have some exposure to vmware but have decided to bite the bullet and pay for course as soon as I can...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Passed it today. I see now why they want people to do the course. You really do need to know your stuff. Its short, but tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭TestLink


    Jumpy wrote: »
    Passed it today. I see now why they want people to do the course. You really do need to know your stuff. Its short, but tough.

    Did the exam centre ask for class id ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    ITguru wrote: »
    Did the exam centre ask for class id ?

    No, once you do the exam, VmWare will check your class attendance. If they have the pre-requisites on record they will send you your VCP cert within 30 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Jumpy wrote: »
    No, once you do the exam, VmWare will check your class attendance. If they have the pre-requisites on record they will send you your VCP cert within 30 days.
    I wonder what happens if you dont have the pre-requisites. Can you get them to check again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Do you mean do the exam, followed by the course? I dont see why not. But industry experience will not be enough to pass this. I work very closely with vSphere as part of my job and there were questions I wouldnt have known if I had not studied the course books.

    Plus. MEMORISE THIS http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere4/r40/vsp_40_config_max.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭Sgt Pepper 64


    Raekwon wrote: »
    I got some quotes from varies training centres in Dublin and these are the current prices:

    VMware vSphere: Fast Track (5 day course) = €2500
    VMware vSphere: Install, Configure, Manage (4 day course) = €1800
    VMware vSphere: Troubleshooting (4 day course) = €1800

    I'm a Windows Systems Administrator that has never used VMware before but I was looking at getting trained up and get some hands on experience so in that regard which course would be best suited to me? I'm thinking that the Install, Configure, Manage would be a good starting point, has anyone done this or recommend it?

    Check and see if these are full, I know someone who was quoted similiar prices but was able to get a big discount because the course wasnt full, i think he got it for half price! Worth a shot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    Check and see if these are full, I know someone who was quoted similiar prices but was able to get a big discount because the course wasnt full, i think he got it for half price! Worth a shot.

    I tried to put my name down for a last minute place on one of these courses, just in case they weren't full, but I never hear from the training providers. I get the impression if they don't fill their classes to a certain quota then they simply won't run the course, even if that means getting a few people in at discount prices.

    Anyway, in regards to the VMware courses, the new updated courses (they have been upgraded from v4 to v4.1) were released a few weeks ago and the prices of the course that I wanted to do has now jumped from €1800 to €2500 because the new version (v4.1) is 5 days instead of 4 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    Check and see if these are full, I know someone who was quoted similiar prices but was able to get a big discount because the course wasnt full, i think he got it for half price! Worth a shot.

    I have some brief vmware experience, but i am willing to pay for course from own funds, cos of the catch 22 situation, which course covers whats required..The way i see it if someone has vmware course and exam and is good etc, they will have no bother getting a good role, is that the case??I work currently between 2nd and 3rd level roles for past 5 years, so i have good experience...See vmware as really helping me TBH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    CorkFenian wrote: »
    I have some brief vmware experience, but i am willing to pay for course from own funds, cos of the catch 22 situation, which course covers whats required..The way i see it if someone has vmware course and exam and is good etc, they will have no bother getting a good role, is that the case??I work currently between 2nd and 3rd level roles for past 5 years, so i have good experience...See vmware as really helping me TBH

    "No bother" is probably not the way to describe it, but yes it would help.
    However it is a very expensive course. So its only really worth it if you want to get involved in virtualisation.
    Be aware that not all companies will go VMWare. You have Citrix, Microsoft, Sun and many smaller competitives. So maybe focus on multiple vendors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    Jumpy wrote: »
    "No bother" is probably not the way to describe it, but yes it would help.
    However it is a very expensive course. So its only really worth it if you want to get involved in virtualisation.
    Be aware that not all companies will go VMWare. You have Citrix, Microsoft, Sun and many smaller competitives. So maybe focus on multiple vendors.

    Well yes "no bother" is probably a bit flippant on my part, but so many 3rd level financial roles are requiring multi dimensional skills now, its something I have noticed, they want their staff to have loads of different experience, VMWARE is only going to get bigger and bigger from what I have seen of it....Any advice on which course to do from someone who has done VMWARE courses??Much appreciated thanks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    CorkFenian wrote: »
    Well yes "no bother" is probably a bit flippant on my part, but so many 3rd level financial roles are requiring multi dimensional skills now, its something I have noticed, they want their staff to have loads of different experience, VMWARE is only going to get bigger and bigger from what I have seen of it....Any advice on which course to do from someone who has done VMWARE courses??Much appreciated thanks...

    Sureskills for sure. I guess do the 4.1 latest course. Its a pre-req for the VCP.
    Its not like Microsoft, you cant self study.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    Jumpy wrote: »
    Sureskills for sure. I guess do the 4.1 latest course. Its a pre-req for the VCP.
    Its not like Microsoft, you cant self study.

    yeah its one of the reasons why I would do it tbh, MS exams are completely devalued, dont get me wrong will still do them, but quality of people who have them can vary to a large extent...I have the trainsignal vsphere, have you done vmware courses yourself??4.1 is a pre req...Is there any course that will cover it all??? (only asking as intend to pay for it myself) thanks very much for your reply..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    CorkFenian wrote: »
    yeah its one of the reasons why I would do it tbh, MS exams are completely devalued, dont get me wrong will still do them, but quality of people who have them can vary to a large extent...I have the trainsignal vsphere, have you done vmware courses yourself??4.1 is a pre req...Is there any course that will cover it all??? (only asking as intend to pay for it myself) thanks very much for your reply..

    Unless they have changed it the "Install and Configure" course should provide your pre-req for the exam.
    I did the Install and Config for V3 then the Whats New with SureSkills for v4 then went for the VCP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,535 ✭✭✭Raekwon


    This table below tells you what courses to do to get a VCP:

    PU_EII_charts_vcp_3.jpg

    The Install, Configure & Manage course has been upgraded from v4 to v4.1 and it is now 5 days instead of 4 (and costs around €700/800 more too). The new topics include: Configure vCenter Server Linked Mode, Manage ESX/ESXi host configuration using Host Profiles & Manage host power consumption using Distributed Power Management.

    The Fast Track course would be the one to do IMO. It covers more topics then the the Install, Configure & Manage course and it is the same price (€2,500).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I done the 4.0 fast track, will I still be able to do the 4.1 exam using the books for 4.0..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭zoom_cool


    Yes you will be able to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭zweton


    Hi, would i need to be working with vsphere before doing this course?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭RustySpoon


    zweton wrote: »
    Hi, would i need to be working with vsphere before doing this course?

    No, but it's a help. I did the course recently and have decent working knowledge with Hyper V and earlier versions of ESX so found the course interesting and well paced (especially the FT and HA bits). However there were some people on the course who struggled a little as they had no prior exposure to virtualisation.

    As with any courses it really depends on the quality of the trainer and how quick you are at picking concepts up, sometimes lab exercises are badly written or the lab setup doesn't match what is in the book and if you can easily filter out the good from the bad and adjust lab exercises to fit the setup you will be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    It is expected that one has hands-on experience with the product. Also, the exam isn't fully covered by the course.

    Download an evaluation version off the VMware site and play with it in a home-lab setting. You can run it in VMware player. All you need is at least 4GB of RAM, preferably 6-8!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭zweton


    What books or videos would be helpful to familiarise myself with the material?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭qwertz


    VCP4 Exam Blueprint. http://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/plan.cfm?plan=12457&ui=www
    This details the requirements for the exam and lists the relevant and recommended study material.

    If you have money to spare then have a look at the Trainsignal videos. I can't comment on their quality, though. There are other suppliers our there as well, again, no idea on the quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,688 ✭✭✭zweton


    Hi guys for any of you that have the vcp...realistically,could someone with 2 years support work get a job once they have gotten their vcp qualification?
    I am thinking of doing the course but if its mainly for senior folk then may not bother.Would it be a good cert to travel with,any opinions?

    Thanks:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Keedowah


    It really is no harm, although it would be great if you were in a company that had at least virtualised some of the infrastructure. Maybe you could champion it in yours!?

    As for having it for travelling - yes, it could be a good way to get your foot in the door to a junior position.

    Good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    zweton wrote: »
    Hi guys for any of you that have the vcp...realistically,could someone with 2 years support work get a job once they have gotten their vcp qualification?
    I am thinking of doing the course but if its mainly for senior folk then may not bother.Would it be a good cert to travel with,any opinions?

    Thanks:)

    Hi,

    Getting the cert means a big effort ,time and financial !
    You can start by registering to their Training portal and have a look on their support /community board.There are serios posts,hard questions and hard answers ! If you consider that you can deal with,then go for it.

    For training,i used CBT,TrainSignal,YouTube and lots of PDFs !
    Also,lots of bloggers are sharing real life experience.

    Get yourself a physical server,single CPU,capable of running x64 preferable,at least 8G of RAM and install the VMware and..play with it ! The cost,around 500-1000 !

    Travelling (i guess Australia and North America) in countries where VMware has a bigger coverage than here,means that your VCP certificate 'opens' the door for the interview but it might not 'assure' a job ! Have a look at what kind of requirements are for VCP or Virtualisation Specialists ! Try getting a system admin / system engineer position in a company where VMware is already present,then you might get a junior position !

    Not sure why,but most of the time is a 'strange' association between hardware,software and networking !
    Hardware - DELL,HP,IBM,EMC and so on (for servers and for SAN)
    Software -(VMware,Linux,various OSes)
    Networking -(microsoft net,cisco)
    (all listed in random order).


    The biggest downside to investing in VCP AND not having the day-to-day exposure is that most than likely ... you'll forget the technology !

    Regards.
    Your call...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    rolion wrote: »
    Hi,

    Getting the cert means a big effort ,time and financial !
    You can start by registering to their Training portal and have a look on their support /community board.There are serios posts,hard questions and hard answers ! If you consider that you can deal with,then go for it.

    For training,i used CBT,TrainSignal,YouTube and lots of PDFs !
    Also,lots of bloggers are sharing real life experience.

    Get yourself a physical server,single CPU,capable of running x64 preferable,at least 8G of RAM and install the VMware and..play with it ! The cost,around 500-1000 !

    Travelling (i guess Australia and North America) in countries where VMware has a bigger coverage than here,means that your VCP certificate 'opens' the door for the interview but it might not 'assure' a job ! Have a look at what kind of requirements are for VCP or Virtualisation Specialists ! Try getting a system admin / system engineer position in a company where VMware is already present,then you might get a junior position !

    Not sure why,but most of the time is a 'strange' association between hardware,software and networking !
    Hardware - DELL,HP,IBM,EMC and so on (for servers and for SAN)
    Software -(VMware,Linux,various OSes)
    Networking -(microsoft net,cisco)
    (all listed in random order).


    The biggest downside to investing in VCP AND not having the day-to-day exposure is that most than likely ... you'll forget the technology !

    Regards.
    Your call...

    another junk post - what is this supposed to mean?

    "Not sure why,but most of the time is a 'strange' association between hardware,software and networking !
    Hardware - DELL,HP,IBM,EMC and so on (for servers and for SAN)
    Software -(VMware,Linux,various OSes)
    Networking -(microsoft net,cisco)
    (all listed in random order)."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭rolion


    Also,a quick update...VMware is launching VSphere v5.0 with few important changes from v4.x !
    Possible current installation to stay with v4 but more than likely ,new sales will be targeted towards v5 !

    SO...something new to learn, play and spend tim€...

    Good luck to all of us...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 2,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭LoGiE


    Is there any companies that run courses in the city centre? All I can turn up is a place out in Blanchardstown.

    Thanks,

    LoGiE


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