Humanity must be saved from homosexuality - Pope

askitnice

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/humanity-must-be-saved-from-homosexuality--pope-1583648.html

You'd think the church has enough to worry about with all the fecking kiddie fidlers in their ranks. Never mind the covers ups still going on today. Look at Bishop of Cloyne John Magee who personally made sure a number of abusers got away with it for far longer than they should have. Even after Ferns he still protected them, and he was by no means alone in the protection he provided.

Maybe the pope should mind his own poxy business and clean out his own house before making such outlandish statements, Rainforest's??? WTF......

dny123456

Catholic church is a multimillion-multinational business.

This is just a marketing ploy, wouldn't get excited about it to be honest. Most sane people will see through it... I hope!

andrewh5

The man really is an amadan to come out with this one. Next he will be saying it is an illness :rolleyes:

Danbo!

andrewh5 wrote: »

The man really is an amadan to come out with this one. Next he will be saying it is an illness :rolleyes:

It isn't?

littlebug

dny123456 wrote: »

Catholic church is a multimillion-multinational business.

This is just a marketing ploy, s wouldn't get excited about it to be honest. Most sane people will see through it... I hope!

you'd be surprised how many people still take his word as, em, gospel.
He's embarrassing:mad:

DominoDub

His past comes back into light !

Professey Chin

We all know he's just trying to build his empire
Pope Palpatine.JPG

Gurgle

Humanity is slowly saving itself from out-dated feudal religious orders.

With any luck, Mr Ratzinger will be the last Pope who's senile ravings are even given the air-time to put them down.

PurpleBerry

Razinger is certifiably cuckoo-bananas. Don't pay any attention.

dny123456

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

We all know he's just trying to build his empire
Pope Palpatine.JPG

Priceless !

Lol.

Dudess

DominoDub wrote: »

His past comes back into light !

Well he was a christian German born in 1927 so under the nazis he actually had to join Hitler Youth.

Stuff like this makes it difficult to see the difference between hardline catholics and evangelical protestants... and makes me wonder why they hate each other so much when they're clearly singing off the same hymn sheet (ba-doom tisch) in several respects. Although they often put up a united front when it comes to this kind of crazy-assedness...

andrewh5

noblestee wrote: »

It isn't?

OMG!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Dragan

But I'm not finished saving the world from the Roman Catholic Church yet.

One thing at a time please.

Dudess

andrewh5 wrote: »

OMG!!!!!! :rolleyes:

It's After Hours. I would say there's an extremely high probability that poster wasn't being serious.

Irishcrx

Well....If you define a disease as a "abnormal condition of an organism" and i've heard it said before that homosexuality in cases can be caused by a hormonal inbalance in one's body from birth...and I have heard arguements that would descripe that as a disease.

Dragan

Irishcrx wrote: »

Well....If you define a disease as a "abnormal condition of an organism" and i've heard it said before that homosexuality in cases can be caused by a hormonal inbalance in one's body from birth...and I have heard arguements that would descripe that as a disease.

Do you mean the whole test:est balance theory?

Because that one is a big pile of poo.

matrim

The Pope said humanity needed to "listen to the language of creation" to understand the intended roles of man and woman. He dismissed behaviour beyond traditional heterosexual relations as "a destruction of God's work"

Does that mean that every priest, bishop and even the pope himself are all being sinful, as they are engaging in celibacy which is "behaviour beyond traditional heterosexual relations"

invincibleirish

Who cares? the Pope, along with FF, the USA, RTE, Liverpool FC and the military Industrial complex are all just things that people should know better then to pay attention to or take seriously or admire.

_blank_

fckin pope, who the hell does he think he is?

SEPT 23 1989

this is coming from a guy who served in the Hitler youth

Irishcrx

Dragan wrote: »

Do you mean the whole test:est balance theory?

Because that one is a big pile of poo.

I think thats it, I haven't looked into it to be honest and I don't have a problem with gay people as individuals at all, however as a whole I do think it is un-natural. I'm not really a big fan of religion but if we were all gay and it was as acceptable as the homesexual community want it to be then...well we'd be extinct pretty quick wouldn't we.

Dudess

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

this is coming from a guy who served in the Hitler youth

All christian boys his age under the nazis had to - they'd no say in the matter.

Dragan

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

this is coming from a guy who served in the Hitler youth

This already came up, and was dealt with in this thread. It's not like he had a choice.

Irishcrx wrote: »

I think thats it, I haven't looked into it to be honest and I don't have a problem with gay people as individuals at all, however as a whole I do think it is un-natural. I'm not really a big fan of religion but if we were all gay and it was as acceptable as the homesexual community want it to be then...well we'd be extinct pretty quick wouldn't we.

Indeed. Which is why we have plenty of straight people around the keep humanity going, it's not like we are going to run out of cannon fodder anytime soon.

As far as i can tell the homosexual community ( assuming they are agree with each other ) have no desire to have everyone be gay. They just want to be allowed to be what they are without fear of prejudice. I would say without fear of being made fun of but if you want in the club then you have to agree to take and give your burnings.

herya

It always amazes me how the RC church believes in natural=good. If we all need to stick to natural ways every baby born sick or weak should be devoured by its parents on the spot. I prefer unnatural any day, thank you.

dny123456

Dragan wrote: »

This already came up, and was dealt with in this thread. It's not like he had a choice.

Its true, God made him that way.

super_furry

Des wrote: »

fckin pope, who the hell does he think he is?

God's representative on earth.

Still, most people just think he's a mean, little old man.

Darragh29

What he is saying is not without some degree of merit. If we are all gay, what will happen??? I'm a live and let live kinda guy, but some people are just being gay because they think it is fashionable. If we are all gay, then we are all f*cked.

dny123456

Darragh29 wrote: »

What he is saying is not without some degree of merit. If we are all gay, what will happen??? I'm a live and let live kinda guy, but some people are just being gay because they think it is fashionable. If we are all gay, then we are all f*cked.

Gay does not equal infertile!

super_furry

People are gay because it's fashionable?

I've been posting and browsing on this site for about six years now and that is easily the single most idiotic statement I've ever read.

Well done.

Dragan

super_furry wrote: »

God's representative on earth.

Actually, technically you can only be someone's representative if they have decided so themselves....and last time i checked the RCC had yet to received absolute proof of the existence of their God.

So as such, he's just some dude in a silly hat.

Dudess

Darragh29 wrote: »

people are just being gay because they think it is fashionable.

I doubt some guy who doesn't enjoy being bum-****ed would still take it anyway in order to be fashionable... I doubt some guy who is physically attracted to women and has no interest in men would have relationships with men and not women... just to be fashionable.

cornbb

The Catholic church teaches that while homosexuality is not sinful, homosexual acts are.

Thats a bit like saying that hunger is not sinful, but eating is :rolleyes:

These bozos are still stuck back in the Dark Ages. Really. Homosexuality is part of nature, animals do it too: http://www.emperor-penguin.com/gay-penguins.html

What he is saying is not without some degree of merit. If we are all gay, what will happen??? I'm a live and let live kinda guy, but some people are just being gay because they think it is fashionable. If we are all gay, then we are all f*cked.

But we're not all gay, just a small proportion. Evolution takes care of making sure there are enough heteros around bumpin' uglies and makin' babies.

Terry

I'm just surprised that people are surprised that the Catholic church hasn't done a 180 on it's stance on homosexuality.

stovelid

super_furry wrote: »

and that is easily the single most idiotic statement I've ever read.
.

Search the rest of his posts and then make a fresh summation.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i'm surprised that you're surprised that people are surprised the catholic church hasn't done a complete 180 on homosexuality.

Terry

Mordeth wrote: »

i'm surprised that you're surprised that people are surprised the catholic church hasn't done a complete 180 on homosexuality.

Get out of my head.

bubonicus

Howard Johnson is right

Red Alert

I'm catholic but I disagree with the Pope on this one. Jesus says love your neighbour as yourself, everyone is our neighbour, gay or not.

mandysmithers

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

I'm just surprised that people are surprised that the Catholic church hasn't done a 180 on it's stance on homosexuality.

I was going to say something along those lines too...take it or leave it, the Catholic church thinks that homosexuality is wrong. Every religious leader is going to preach their religion's beliefs, and will want their members to follow those beliefs. No one's forcing anyone to be a Catholic.

Other religions have their own ridiculous beliefs too.

For the record, I don't agree with him, although I'd call myself a non-practising/half-believing Catholic (if that even exists ), but he and other practising Catholics are free to think and believe what they want.

cornbb

mandysmithers wrote: »

For the record, I don't agree with him, although I'd call myself a non-practising/half-believing Catholic (if that even exists ), but he and other practising Catholics are free to think and believe what they want.

If you disagree with one or more of the Catholic churches' core beliefs then are you still a Catholic though? I don't think free thinking is part of the Catholic deal.

Fratton Fred

Ya shoulda listened to Cromwell guys

Pride Fighter

cornbb wrote: »

If you disagree with one or more of the Catholic churches' core beliefs then are you still a Catholic though? I don't think free thinking is part of the Catholic deal.

He is a heretic who should be burned at the stake:D:D:D

dny123456

mandysmithers wrote: »

I was going to say something along those lines too...take it or leave it, the Catholic church thinks that homosexuality is wrong. Every religious leader is going to preach their religion's beliefs, and will want their members to follow those beliefs. No one's forcing anyone to be a Catholic.

Other religions have their own ridiculous beliefs too.

For the record, I don't agree with him, although I'd call myself a non-practising/half-believing Catholic (if that even exists ), but he and other practising Catholics are free to think and believe what they want.

How about rascists? Are they allowed to believe and practice whatever they like?

ShooterSF

Red Alert wrote: »

I'm catholic but I disagree with the Pope on this one. Jesus says love your neighbour as yourself, everyone is our neighbour, gay or not.

Not having a go at you personally but this is what I love about the modern "catholic" religion. People treat it like a stickle brick religion. Don't like a part chuck it away. If you're Catholic then the Pope's word is infallibale(sp?) it's not up for debate.
I haven't studied religion in much depth but would your belief not make you more Protestant?
By the way I'm an atheist myself so I'm not preaching the Pope's word to you. I just find it mad that people can believe in a very specific religion yet ignore the parts they don't like.

mandysmithers

dny123456 wrote: »

How about rascists? Are they allowed to believe and practice whatever they like?

I didn't say 'practice', I said 'believe'. I should have added as long as it's within the confines of the law. Racists, whilst they may be wrong, are free to hold whatever beliefs they want. That's what comes from having a free country - you take the good with the bad I suppose. Anyway, this is probably a bit off topic. I'm just saying that the Catholic church have always believed homosexuality is wrong. Times have changed, but they are still holding onto their beliefs.

mandysmithers

cornbb wrote: »

If you disagree with one or more of the Catholic churches' core beliefs then are you still a Catholic though? I don't think free thinking is part of the Catholic deal.

I suppose, but that's not a question I feel qualified to answer. I mean, the perfect example is the number of people who get married in a church, when they've been living together before marriage, or the number of parents who get their children christened etc. although they don't go to mass themselves.

That's for another thread....

Dragan

mandysmithers wrote: »

No one's forcing anyone to be a Catholic.

Actually for most of it's existance and still in places around the world today the Catholic Church has Missions who's sole goal is to supplant local religious practices with the Catholic Church.

And at many times in history this was done with Military backing.

junior_apollo

dny123456 wrote: »

Its true, God made him that way.

I think your messing with apples and oranges there... The reason he had no choice was because of penalty of death...

If you believe that its similar well then maybe those people who veer from the straight and narrow should be put to death?

Sounds a little harsh to me.. but sure we'll give it a try.. Sieg Heil! :eek:

Biggins

Ranting of an old man that wouldn't know how to treat a lover if he had a hot dildo and a tub of butter.

Yea, I'm gonna listen to that aging twat!

Dudess

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Ya shoulda listened to Cromwell guys

Heh, if he wasn't such a prick I'd have some respect for the man. His unwavering faith and devotion was admirable.

dny123456 wrote: »

How about rascists? Are they allowed to believe and practice whatever they like?

Oh come on, dny123456. Where did Mandy say "practise"? And yes. Racists ARE allowed to believe whatever they like. You can't stop someone from believing something - as long as it doesn't affect others. Although spewing hate affects others but many will argue that's simply free speech, which I'm a bit iffy on. On the one hand I see it as incitement to hatred, but on the other hand I see the merits in these idiots making their views known... then they can be shown up for the idiots they are.

ShooterSF wrote: »

Not having a go at you personally but this is what I love about the modern "catholic" religion. People treat it like a stickle brick religion. Don't like a part chuck it away. If you're Catholic then the Pope's word is infallibale(sp?) it's not up for debate.
I haven't studied religion in much depth but would your belief not make you more Protestant?
By the way I'm an atheist myself so I'm not preaching the Pope's word to you. I just find it mad that people can believe in a very specific religion yet ignore the parts they don't like.

Agreed. I believe there are some genuinely religious christians in this country who identify themselves as catholics but don't follow catholic dogma to the letter. Why not just be christian? I think it's kinda lazy to see no alternative besides catholicism just because this is Ireland.

mandysmithers wrote: »

I mean, the perfect example is the number of people who get married in a church, when they've been living together before marriage, or the number of parents who get their children christened etc. although they don't go to mass themselves.

Sex before marriage, contraception, divorce, abortion, friends with gay people yet claiming membership of an organisation that vengefully condemns homosexuality. Truly irksome hypocrisy.

Professey Chin

Biggins wrote: »

Ranting of an old man that wouldn't know how to treat a lover if he had a hot dildo and a tub of butter.

Yea, I'm gonna listen to that aging twat!

To be honest Id be pretty confused with that combination too