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Who is the better Driver? Country or City Drivers!

  • 22-12-2008 8:03am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭


    Ok I am a country driver, with plenty of city driving experience!
    We all face hazards on our roads every day.

    On a road called the wood road near clonmel, 2 deer jumped out in front of me recently, lucky for me i managed to stop in time.

    My point is simple we all face different hazards depending on where we are driving.

    Question: Who is the better driver? country or city and why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭alo1587


    Country drivers i think.More used to hazards such as tractors/**** etc on the narrow roads, so are more expectant of a hazard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Can open. Worms everywhere.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    People from urban arewas tend to be less confident of back roads whereas people from rural areas tend to be less confident with busy traffic. Its much of a muchness really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    Well I do a bit of both and I think this is the best way to be.
    To be a good driver you need a bit of experience with both IMO


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    You've all got lovely bottoms?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭NiSmO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Atari Jaguar. I'm mainly a city driver, with plenty of country driving experience. On a busy street near the centre of Dublin recently, two old dears suddenly appeared from behind a bus(h). Lucky for them I managed to stop in time.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Westwood


    NiSmO wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    lol, but on the real. having lived in the city and now living rural I can safely say the mulchies are better drivers, because the roads down here are so notoriously bad. other drivers tend to aim their cars for you at 90mph on a bend with their full beams on as you're exiting the biggest pothole ever while waving to the local dandy legged farmer. you really take your life in your own hands, only the strong survive, its a jungle down here lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Yeah, I do a good bit of both... City driving is obviously harder and takes more skill. However country driving usually means more speed and danger. I guess the answer lies in the stats, people in rural areas are dying in their cars every weekend, not as many are dying in the big city areas.

    I find younger Dublin drivers the most courteous on the road and Galway drivers the least courteous and the least knowledgeable about the rules of the road.

    I will always give a country reg the benefit of doubt in Dublin regarding lane changing and maneuvering, its bloody hard to navigate your way around if you are not familiar with the city. Unfortunately the compliment is never ever returned in Galway or Cork, it is in Belfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Is there actually such a thing as city driving?
    I always thought it resembles mobile parking with the occasional lane change :pac:

    Where's the skill in that?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    peasant wrote: »
    Is there actually such a thing as city driving?
    I always thought it resembles mobile parking with the occasional lane change :pac:

    Where's the skill in that?

    Yeah!:D You have to be very aware in Dublin and Belfast, suicidal cycle couriers, maniac pedestrians, motorbike couriers, taxi's, buses, one way systems, lane discipline, joggers who run on the road (what the hell is that about?) and general bedlam stuffed in to roads that were designed in medieval times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭hottstuff


    Depends on if they are male of female.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    joggers who run on the road (what the hell is that about?)

    What is that about? see that alot in the country, even when there is a foot path they could use!

    I drive a truck(when i can get the work) and prefer to drive in a city than on country roads!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,120 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    JackFrosty wrote: »
    Ok I am a country driver, with plenty of city driving experience!
    We all face hazards on our roads every day.

    On a road called the wood road near clonmel, 2 deer jumped out in front of me recently, lucky for me i managed to stop in time.

    My point is simple we all face different hazards depending on where we are driving.

    Question: Who is the better driver? country or city and why?

    We have deer in Dublin too! Have seen the results of a few car + deer mashes in the park before...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    JackFrosty wrote: »
    joggers who run on the road (what the hell is that about?)

    What is that about? see that alot in the country, even when there is a foot path they could use!

    I drive a truck(when i can get the work) and prefer to drive in a city than on country roads!

    THANKS!!! This irks someone else!! Its off the wall! I was driving behind some numpty in tight pants the other night for five minutes, he was jogging on the road passing out parked cars wearing dark clothing at nine in the evening. There was a perfect footpath on the other side of the parked cars.

    I run 6K in half an hour everynight. I run on the path, its perfect, there is no excuse for running on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Are these country folk who rarely leave the country environ?

    Are these city folk whom bought cars in the city and have NEVER driven outside of the city?

    Can of worms is right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Berty wrote: »
    Are these country folk who rarely leave the country environ?

    Are these city folk whom bought cars in the city and have NEVER driven outside of the city?


    Well, naturally both drivers you described are going to be nervous or bad drivers outside their comfort zone. But you have a point, in the city, the bad country driver is going to be given a bit more leeway, but the inexperienced city driver in a rural setting might be more dangerous.

    I would imagine more city drivers venture out on rural roads than country drivers that go in to the big cities. You don't have to venture far out of any of the cities to hit rural roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭Bandara


    Dear Country person,

    Ahead is a roundabout.

    See you in a few hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I merge between the two camps.

    I drive for a living and drive very often in both environments. I have noticed city drivers are slow drivers in the country and country drivers are terrible with lane positioning, directions and parking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    Hammertime wrote: »
    Dear Country person,

    Ahead is a roundabout.

    See you in a few hours.


    Both indicators going a dinger..........ARRRRRGGGGHHHH which lane do i have to be in......gonna merge,.....good luck everybody.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,618 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    lightening wrote: »
    I will always give a country reg the benefit of doubt in Dublin regarding lane changing and maneuvering, its bloody hard to navigate your way around if you are not familiar with the city. Unfortunately the compliment is never ever returned in Galway or Cork, it is in Belfast.


    I found this the case in the last couple of weeks when I was in both Cork and Belfast - no comparison between the courtesy of drivers in both cities.
    I was really struggling finding my way around the city centre, what with all the one-way streets, and must have really annoyed people with my last minute lane changing but the drivers there were very polite in letting me carry out my various manoeuvres.

    Compare this to Cork though...... must have been the D reg. :rolleyes::P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Heroditas wrote: »
    Compare this to Cork though...... must have been the D reg. :rolleyes::P

    I know.. probably the same problem here. Real mature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭chickenhawk


    Obviously people who live in the city will say they are better drivers. But I think that they know their way around so well so they don't have to think about it. So that makes it easier for them to drive in the city as they don't have to look for signs and worry about where they are going. Most off the people I know from Dublin as soon as they get out of the city can't drive for sh1te. I don't mean on dual carriageways but on regional roads. As soon as another car comes their way they have to slow down and refuse to put their car near the ditch in case a leaf touches it.

    Now country drivers can (from what I've seen) drive on regional road,s even if they don't know them, just fine. Obviously some crashes happen from speed, cockiness and whatever but they are usually able to handle it. When city drivers go to Dublin for example they can be seen as crap drivers because they might be continuously looking for signs and hence have a little less time devoted to watching where to go. So on the balance of it I think country drivers are better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Most off the people I know from Dublin as soon as they get out of the city can't drive for sh1te. I don't mean on dual carriageways but on regional roads.

    Hundreds of regional roads all around and in Dublin. Most drivers from Dublin are well used to regional roads, I would imagine their caution is because they are used to a larger volume of traffic, cyclists, pedestrians etc....

    You are dead right about drivers driving in the city and not really knowing where they are going, its a nightmare for them. But you will find Dublin and Belfast drivers let them in and out of lanes anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭chickenhawk


    lightening wrote: »
    Hundreds of regional roads all around and in Dublin. Most drivers from Dublin are well used to regional roads,

    I can't agree with that. I know there are lots off regional roads around Dublin but the majority of people wouldn't have to travel on them regularly. Any bank holiday weekend go around regional roads and you'll meet Dublin reg cars trying to make it to hotels on crap roads. They never go near the ditch and I've had some pretty close calls with them not doing so. Although they are better in that they stick within or well below the speed limit on these roads.

    I know that i'm generalising and I apologise to any driver from a city who can drive on country roads, but most can't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    I think bad Positioning is the cause of alot of accidents, some people just come round bends on the middle of the road, and look at you like you have 2 heads when you flash your lights and head for the ditch, to avoid a head on!
    I am sure the same thing happens in citys wid in correct lane positioning etc.

    Thing is no one thinks they are a bad driver!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    I find city driving makes me much more aware of my surroundings, like other cars, extra lanes, speeds of other cars beside me, behind and ahead, judging lane changes and speeds more often.

    Country driving can make you very ignorant of other drivers, as its much more hands on around the roads, much more a driver's environment, but very good for getting to know your car's abilities well.

    I find the city can be bad for silly speed limits and dangerous drivers with no lane sense, (mostly culchies). I find the country drivers more ignorant of other drivers, but a little more sure of themselves on back roads.

    That being said, the Dubs are raring to go too, when they get a chance at a good surfaced backroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    House wrote: »
    I find the country drivers more ignorant of other drivers, but a little more sure of themselves on back roads.

    I find it the opposite. A country driver is more likely to salute you for no apparent reason other than that of saying hello. People walking on the roads salute drivers and vice versa.

    The only time I ever got saluted in Dublin(biggest city so best example) was not to say hello, rather something else.




    For other replies refering to registration numbers. I have an LH registration but I live in a small village in Tipp and work mostly in Limerick. People maybe assume Im not from these here parts but I have my Munster sticker on the back window to make up for having a ****ty Leinster mobile. Most reps/companies have D registrations so people assume they are from Dublin, its just the leasing company that is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    How about both. Those like me who grew up in the City and learned to drive in the City but a few years back moved out to the country and commute to the city each day. best of both worlds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    Berty wrote: »
    I find it the opposite. A country driver is more likely to salute you for no apparent reason other than that of saying hello. People walking on the roads salute drivers and vice versa.

    Very true, but sadly it is dying out!
    The only time I ever got saluted in Dublin(biggest city so best example) was not to say hello, rather something else.

    I work in dublin 5 days a week most weeks, and have to say they are courteous when you give them a chance, but infuriate easily if you are slow to move out when they let you. You get used to the standard of driving expected of you in the cities. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    House wrote: »
    Very true, but sadly it is dying out!


    The area it is most prevalent still is south West Limerick and North and North West Cork County. Around the areas of Newmarket, Boherbue, Kanturk, Ballingarry, etc etc. Every other person salutes you.

    Even people out cutting their grass will salute you when driving past. I was with a friend down from Galway and she was blown away.

    "How do you know all those people?" After explaining that is the way nice people act she told her bemused Galway City friends all about those weird country folk. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Berty wrote: »
    I find it the opposite. A country driver is more likely to salute you for no apparent reason other than that of saying hello. People walking on the roads salute drivers and vice versa.

    I used to get this a lot, not as much anymore. I think it's more of a cultural thing that driver courtesy. As in they are saluting you as they would walking by you. It would be confusing and difficult to salute everyone you see driving through Dublin or Cork or Belfast.

    Now, try and get do a right from a small road to a larger road, in Dublin people will leave a gap for you to get out, the cars going the same direction (that you want to go) will see whats going on and flash you out. This happens a lot in Dublin, hardly ever happens when I drive around Galway or the midlands. The last time I was in Tuam I was waiting to get out of a small road in heavy traffic and the cars pulled up bumper to bumper so I couldn't get out and then completely avoided eye contact with me! You don't really get that in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭Marcus.Aurelius


    Berty wrote: »
    The area it is most prevalent still is south West Limerick and North and North West Cork County. Around the areas of Newmarket, Boherbue, Kanturk, Ballingarry, etc etc. Every other person salutes you.

    That's weird, I have the most trouble with C reg drivers while driving through North Central and North West Cork on journeys. They never let anybody pass them normally. What's the story there?

    I find WX, WW, D and KE drivers the most courteous and willing to allow someone pass by utilising the hard shoulder, and CW, W/WD, KK, & C drivers the most ignorant and least likely to let you overtake. (I mean of course, on the balance of experience, not absolute terms)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    Berty wrote: »
    Every other person salutes you.

    That's just a cultural thing. You simply couldn't do this in any city.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    lightening wrote: »
    That's just a cultural thing. You simply couldn't do this in any city.

    You could but you would be eventually arrested. Somebody would eventually claim you were sexually harassing them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    House wrote: »
    I find WX, WW, D and KE drivers the most courteous and willing to allow someone pass by utilising the hard shoulder, and CW, W/WD, KK, & C drivers the most ignorant and least likely to let you overtake. (I mean of course, on the balance of experience, not absolute terms)

    If you are running low on tar for your brush................................lol :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    Have you ever stopped to let someone out, only for him to stop a little futher down an let someone else out, then that person lets some one out and it keeps repeating until your sitting in a traffic jam you caused!!!!

    Eye contact is bad, it causes traffic jams


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭pyramuid man


    MYOB wrote: »
    We have deer in Dublin too! Have seen the results of a few car + deer mashes in the park before...


    in fairness, its harder to stop for a deer while driving at 80KPH on a country road than it is driving at 40KPH in a city


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    Ya and this deer had friends with him, had to use the handbrake and slide the car a bit,
    friend of mine was driving on the same road when a deer ran into the side of his transit!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    JackFrosty wrote: »
    Eye contact is bad, it causes traffic jams

    You are proving my point about not so altruistic rural drivers.

    Would you consider getting up earlier?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    You lost me! get up early for what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭sonicthebadger*


    lightening wrote: »
    You are dead right about drivers driving in the city and not really knowing where they are going, its a nightmare for them. But you will find Dublin and Belfast drivers let them in and out of lanes anyway.

    I've not found that in Dublin ever.
    JackFrosty wrote: »
    I think bad Positioning is the cause of alot of accidents, some people just come round bends on the middle of the road, and look at you like you have 2 heads when you flash your lights and head for the ditch, to avoid a head on!

    Maybe they're looking at you like you've two heads cause they're thinking "damn my road positioning is really poor and now I can't see the edge of the road cause this fool is blinding me with his full beams".

    JackFrosty wrote: »
    Have you ever stopped to let someone out, only for him to stop a little futher down an let someone else out, then that person lets some one out and it keeps repeating until your sitting in a traffic jam you caused!!!!

    No.

    I have lived in Dublin and Wexford and I think I can safely say both places have a polar opposite approach to driving. Dublin drivers have a fairly high skill level coupled with virtually no patience or regard for the safety of more vulnerable road users :confused:. Wexford drivers have a worringly low skill level but since many streets are only wide enough for one car and piedestrians are virtually sucicidal in their cavalier approach to the safe cross code :p drivers develop lots of patience and a high degree of caution for vulnerable road users (except cycles and motorcycles which seem to baffle them).:rolleyes:

    Wexford is the only place I've had to contact the Guards over someone driving in a way that put me at risk though. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    I always try to dip my beams just before the oncoming car comes into view, but i make an exception when someone waits til last minute to dip theirs,completly blinding me in the process, in that case i flick full beams back on and leave them on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭JackFrosty


    May i also add that in my experience D reg cars seem to know what they are doing where ever i meet them.
    C reg drivers are very fast and impatient
    WX drivers are slow, but TN driversare the slowest ever
    I am TS myself and open to your views on TS drivers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    JackFrosty wrote: »
    I always try to dip my beams just before the oncoming car comes into view, but i make an exception when someone waits til last minute to dip theirs,completly blinding me in the process, in that case i flick full beams back on and leave them on!
    I usually hesitate and think before admitting any very bad driving habits I might have on an internet forum...

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭Biro


    lightening wrote: »
    I guess the answer lies in the stats, people in rural areas are dying in their cars every weekend, not as many are dying in the big city areas.

    Doesn't take a genious to figure that one out though!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    I saw a KK reg weaving in and out of traffic this morning and he nearly caused a massive pile up.. Friggin Hillbillies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,155 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    JackFrosty wrote: »
    I am TS myself and open to your views on TS drivers

    I cover ground on most of the country and its rare enough to meet a TS driver. You must clearly never leave the south very often and I live in TN. My friend has a TS Passatt and is a crazy driver but he was always slightly mad anyway. Those steroids messed up the best years of his life. Silly boy :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,125 ✭✭✭lightening


    I've not found that in Dublin ever.

    I see it every day! OK, you will get the odd fool who just won't merge or let people change lane, but in the main, Dublin drivers will let cars in front of them if they indicate properly and aren't blatantly taking the piss by shooting up a bus/left only lane and nipping in at the last minute or something.

    Younger drivers are the best usually. The fifty somethings can be dreadfull sometimes... they simply don't understand and seem to think that "some fvker is trying to get in front of me!!!" :D


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