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Hoarding

  • 21-12-2008 7:02pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭


    This week my family and I had to clean out my granny's drawing room because it was quite cluttered and all of the family tend to meet there on xmas eve to exchange gifts. This year we were all quite shocked as it was clearly evident that her need to hoard has become compulsive to the point where it is clearly a serious problem. This leads me to a series of questions and statements

    1. Have you experienced anyone in a similiar situation (elaborate at will) or are you the hoarder ?

    2. Think about your own hoarding (if appropriate) and dispose or donate any junk !!!

    3. Someone please try explain what an ornament means to them and explain to me how someone can justify filling their house with useless objects!!!

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Lexus1976


    Everybody is a hoarder to some extent. So what if your granny likes to collect ornaments. Whats strange about that? I know hundreds of people who have their house filled with ornaments.

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?

    Yeah leave your granny alone and start worrying about your attitude towards the elderly :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    owlwink wrote: »
    This week my family and I had to clean out my granny's drawing room because it was quite cluttered and all of the family tend to meet there on xmas eve to exchange gifts. This year we were all quite shocked as it was clearly evident that her need to hoard has become compulsive to the point where it is clearly a serious problem. This leads me to a series of questions and statements

    1. Have you experienced anyone in a similiar situation (elaborate at will) or are you the hoarder ?

    2. Think about your own hoarding (if appropriate) and dispose or donate any junk !!!

    3. Someone please try explain what an ornament means to them and explain to me how someone can justify filling their house with useless objects!!!

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?

    Jesus don't get me started! Me Granny used to hoard everything! Ireland's Owns, phone books, you name it, she had it in abundance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    Lexus1976 wrote: »
    Everybody is a hoarder to some extent. So what if your granny likes to collect ornaments. Whats strange about that? I know hundreds of people who have their house filled with ornaments.

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?

    Yeah leave your granny alone and start worrying about your attitude towards the elderly :rolleyes:

    Well would you not consider it a problem when it is apparent that she can barely move around rooms because of the clutter and it is dangerous for her because there are so many boxes.

    Your idea seems to be the standard approach people take towards the elderly. LEAVE THEM ALONE TO ROT IN THEIR HOUSES???

    I should probably mention that the problem is the excess of the hoarding, hence it is compulsive. I'm sorry if commenting on ornaments upsets you. it's just they always seem to be the core of the problem. I didnt say collecting ornaments I said hoarding ornaments. ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    owlwink wrote: »
    This week my family and I had to clean out my granny's drawing room because it was quite cluttered and all of the family tend to meet there on xmas eve to exchange gifts. This year we were all quite shocked as it was clearly evident that her need to hoard has become compulsive to the point where it is clearly a serious problem. This leads me to a series of questions and statements

    1. Have you experienced anyone in a similiar situation (elaborate at will) or are you the hoarder ?

    2. Think about your own hoarding (if appropriate) and dispose or donate any junk !!!

    3. Someone please try explain what an ornament means to them and explain to me how someone can justify filling their house with useless objects!!!

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?
    YORE MA is Hoarding on the streets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭endasmail


    just leave her at it ,no cure


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Ross_Mahon


    My grand parents have collected a huge amount of videos, DVD's and books over the years, Its getting to the point were stuff is being moved to the shed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    Plug wrote: »
    YORE MA is Hoarding on the streets.

    Ban please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    This is really a Personal Issue, and hoarding can be a serious mental illness.

    I've seen houses where the hoarding was just beyond reproach - you couldnt walk into the garage/carport, just a pure mountain of shyte. The living room was full of books arranged into little corridors weaving around the room and halls. The couch was filled with purses. Umpteen packs of rotting meat in the fridge. countless unopened bottles of milk on the counter. An entire drawer committed to dozens of scissors.

    Compulsive Hoarding

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭m83


    Ross_Mahon wrote: »
    My grand parents have collected a huge amount of videos, DVD's and books over the years, Its getting to the point were stuff is being moved to the shed.

    Wow! That's so interesting and amazing! You should write a film about it starring Kirk Douglas and Brian Dennehy as your grandparents. I'd watch that!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    My parents are the same. We've a massive shed full of crap that will never be used.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    Overheal wrote: »
    This is really a Personal Issue, and hoarding can be a serious mental illness.

    I've seen houses where the hoarding was just beyond reproach - you couldnt walk into the garage/carport, just a pure mountain of shyte. The living room was full of books arranged into little corridors weaving around the room and halls. The couch was filled with purses. Umpteen packs of rotting meat in the fridge. countless unopened bottles of milk on the counter. An entire drawer committed to dozens of scissors.

    Compulsive Hoarding

    .

    It's random because I looked at this and it really is a very ambiguous "illness" as in most cases it is more a symptom of OCD.

    Never know when you might need rotting meat though...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    "Use it or Loose it"... (junk motto)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,311 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Look at channel 241 (SKY) right now if ya wanna know more about it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    owlwink wrote: »
    This week my family and I had to clean out my granny's drawing room because it was quite cluttered and all of the family tend to meet there on xmas eve to exchange gifts. This year we were all quite shocked as it was clearly evident that her need to hoard has become compulsive to the point where it is clearly a serious problem. This leads me to a series of questions and statements

    1. Have you experienced anyone in a similiar situation (elaborate at will) or are you the hoarder ?

    2. Think about your own hoarding (if appropriate) and dispose or donate any junk !!!

    3. Someone please try explain what an ornament means to them and explain to me how someone can justify filling their house with useless objects!!!

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?

    I've had a relative with hoarding tendancies, although she was very elderly and forgetful so we could blitz out the rubbish and she wouldn't necessarily remember it.

    I collect certain things, and I'm sure this is related to the hoarding trait, I hope it never goes beyond collections and into plastic-wrapper-hoarding territory.

    I doubt an elderly person will change their ways without considerable stress to themselves, and I think relatives will have to step in and ensure there's no fire hazard or safety issue as regards escape routes in a fire situation etc.

    Hoarding is a recognised symptom of mental illness common in the elderly, and usually, from what I've read, very hard to treat.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    LOL One of my Grandmothers hoarded everything.

    ...including a cannonball and a musket she found in her garden.
    We eventually persuaded her to give it to the towns museum but it took years for her to part with it!
    What the heck she wanted to keep an old cannon ball for stretches the mind. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Biggins wrote: »
    LOL One of my Grandmothers hoarded everything.

    ...including a cannonball and a musket she found in her garden.
    We eventually persuaded her to give it to the towns museum but it took years for her to part with it!
    What the heck she wanted to keep an old cannon ball for stretches the mind. :pac:

    Is this the same Grandmother whos house collapsed on top of you? Maybe she was in trouble with some of the local pirates.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Is this the same Grandmother whos house collapsed on top of you? Maybe she was in trouble with some of the local pirates.


    LOL the Granmothers house was in Scarlet st, Drogheda. A few yards down the road was the prison that Cromwell used as he passed thru on his holiday trip! The balls were a souvenir he left for the residents. He left many such gifts everywhere apparently 'cos he was such a nice bloke!
    (the street was called Scarlet st cos of the blood that ran down it from the prison)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    Biggins wrote: »
    LOL the Granmothers house was in Scarlet st, Drogheda. A few yards down the road was the prison that Cromwell used as he passed thru on his holiday trip! The balls were a souvenir he left for the residents. He left many such gifts everywhere apparently 'cos he was such a nice bloke!
    (the street was called Scarlet st cos of the blood that ran down it from the prison)

    Yesterday my granny did allow one thing to leave her drawing room. It was a bust made of her head for some radiotherapy thing. I took it from her in the hope to scoop out the head and make a plant pot holder for a cactus. This is not a personal hoarding tendency (I hope) more of a random tendency I have...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭abi2007


    owlwink wrote: »
    "Use it or Loose it"... (junk motto)


    I agree.. i don't keep anything i don't use. hate clutter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I hoard stuff. Not as bad as I used to, but meh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    owlwink wrote: »
    Yesterday my granny did allow one thing to leave her drawing room. It was a bust made of her head for some radiotherapy thing. I took it from her in the hope to scoop out the head and make a plant pot holder for a cactus. This is not a personal hoarding tendency (I hope) more of a random tendency I have...
    That's just weird :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    That's just weird :confused:

    :eek:Shockingly Strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    owlwink wrote: »
    :eek:Shockingly Strange.
    No, really... I couldn't scoop out my granny's (fake) head. It would be a bit unsettling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭barnacle


    Yore ma is a hoar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    No, really... I couldn't scoop out my granny's (fake) head. It would be a bit unsettling.

    Would you scoop out her real head?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    barnacle wrote: »
    Yore ma is a hoar.

    You never really said whose "ma", but it's ok a peanut brain is a hard thing to work with...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    Would you scoop out her real head?
    No, I don't think I would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    All hoarding isn't too bad though. Some of it is great to look back on, for other family members too. I love going through old issues of Reader's digest and such for example, interesting stuff, gives you a taste of what it was like back then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    owlwink wrote: »
    1. Have you experienced anyone in a similiar situation (elaborate at will) or are you the hoarder ?

    2. Think about your own hoarding (if appropriate) and dispose or donate any junk !!!

    3. Someone please try explain what an ornament means to them and explain to me how someone can justify filling their house with useless objects!!!

    4. Is there any way of curing this condition (if it is one)?

    I think sometimes it comes from when people lived in much harder times (rationing during war time etc), when nothing was thrown away.

    I'm not too bad, but we have lots of ornaments from various holidays etc, which I would hate to throw away. They may not serve any tangible purpose, but I wouldn't want to be that cynical where everything must be utilitarian and have no emotional value attached to it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    No, I don't think I would.

    You're missing out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭stick-dan


    I generally hoard some of my personal stuff that means a great deal to me like sentimental items but the rest of it i donate to charity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    What about grannys hoarding chocs given to them by their relatives?

    Hoards of Toblerone, Black Magic etc just left there past by the best before date, i dunno what it is, but why do they do that and not just eat the frigging things?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    gurramok wrote: »
    What about grannys hoarding chocs given to them by their relatives?

    Hoards of Toblerone, Black Magic etc just left there past by the best before date, i dunno what it is, but why do they do that and not just eat the frigging things?

    almost as bad as hoarding drink until it's worthless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    owlwink wrote: »
    almost as bad as hoarding drink until it's worthless.
    Unless it's wine. Then when you find it, it's suddenly worth a few mil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭owlwink


    the_syco wrote: »
    Unless it's wine. Then when you find it, it's suddenly worth a few mil.

    Or a fine substitute for vinegar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    I have to admit, I'm more than a bit of a hoarder.


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