Ponies killed in Waterford Traveller Fued

Demonique

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1218/waterford.html

Thursday, 18 December 2008 20:05

Two ponies have been put down after being attacked in what is believed to be a feud-related incident in Waterford.

Gardaí are investigating the attack, which took place in the Williamstown area of the city early this morning.

The two ponies received deep slash wounds to their legs.

It is understood one of the back legs of one of the ponies was completely severed in the attack.

A horse discovered in the Ballybeg estate in the city last night with similar injuries also had to be put down.

Traveller organisations in Waterford and Dublin have strongly criticised the attacks on the three animals.

Pavee Point and the Waterford Travellers Support Group say they are unequivocal in their condemnation of the incidents.

They have called for anybody with information to contact the gardaí in Waterford and added that the attacks mark a new low in the long-running conflict.



Pity someone wouldnt put the scum down instead

RxQueen

its a touchey subject around this neck of the woods tbh, but there not enough been done to stop everything that has happened around here in the past few months

SoWatchaWant

I'm confused as to why the animals were attacked, bu I wouldn't be outraged over it. I wouldn't have the moral highground, being a meateater, and nor should anyone else who eats meat... end of.

Blazer

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

I'm confused as to why the animals were attacked, bu I wouldn't be outraged over it. I wouldn't have the moral highground, being a meateater, and nor should anyone else who eats meat... end of.

Personally I'd like to do the exact same thing to the pricks that did this.
Sure I'm a meat eater but that doesn't mean I'm not disgusted by what these vermin did.

uberwolf

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

I'm confused as to why the animals were attacked, bu I wouldn't be outraged over it. I wouldn't have the moral highground, being a meateater, and nor should anyone else who eats meat... end of.

yeah. Super, we'll let the vegans have a discussion about this and let them come back to us with how we should feel.

This is a question of scumbags causing unnecessary cruelty to animals. Spiteful wánkers.

Terry

Ok. I'm re-opening this thread on the condition that people don't start ranting about how much they hate travellers and how travellers were to blame for this.

Sharpshooter

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Ok. I'm re-opening this thread on the condition that people don't start ranting about how much they hate travellers and how travellers were to blame for this.

I took from the OPs post that although it says fued related , it could just as much have been scum that had no connection to the travellers , who did this.
It makes no sense to do something like this.

"They have called for anybody with information to contact the gardaí in Waterford and added that the attacks mark a new low in the long-running conflict.

Does anyone know if there is evidence pointing to the fact that it was travellers that did this?

Terry

sharpshooterH wrote: »

I took from the OPs post that although it says fued related , it could just as much have been scum that had no connection to the travellers , who did this.
It makes no sense to do something like this.

"They have called for anybody with information to contact the gardaí in Waterford and added that the attacks mark a new low in the long-running conflict.

Does anyone know if there is evidence pointing to the fact that it was travellers that did this?

Well there's the thing. Nobody has any evidence, but you'll still get people pointing the finger.

RxQueen

sharpshooterH wrote: »

I took from the OPs post that although it says fued related , it could just as much have been scum that had no connection to the travellers , who did this.
It makes no sense to do something like this.

"They have called for anybody with information to contact the gardaí in Waterford and added that the attacks mark a new low in the long-running conflict.

Does anyone know if there is evidence pointing to the fact that it was travellers that did this?

its not the only thing that happened that night , and both incidents are connected to the fued apparntly, there been lots of thing going on that havent made it to the news etc..

gardai arent doing enough around here to put a stop to it

SoWatchaWant

That's true SharpshooterH, it doesn't add up, I can't believe they attacked each others ponies. It doesn't make sense.

So I'd reserve judgement.

Terry

emo!! wrote: »

its not the only thing that happened that night , and both incidents are connected to the fued apparntly, there been lots of thing going on that havent made it to the news etc..

gardai arent doing enough around here to put a stop to it

Proof?

Sharpshooter

emo!! wrote: »

its not the only thing that happened that night , and both incidents are connected to the fued, there been lots of thing going on that havent made it to the news etc..

gardai arent doing enough around here to put a stop to it

The reason I ask is , if there is a long running feud between 2 travelling communities , and it is getting peoples backs up , whats to stop local scum getting back at them by mutilating their ponies.
There is always room for a wider perspective on things.

RxQueen

sharpshooterH wrote: »

The reason I ask is , if there is a long running feud between 2 travelling communities , and it is getting peoples backs up , whats to stop local scum getting back at them by mutilating their ponies.
There is always room for a wider perspective on things.

i understand that, but like i said its not the only thing that happend that night.. you really have to be living around here to see how bad it is between the two feuding communities, and i do agree with you that it could all and well be some random scumbag that did this, but like i said living around here wether it was them or not, they still need to be something done about there feuding

dlofnep

This feud has been going on here for a year now. Multiple shootings. Multiple petrol bomb attacks. Pipe bombs.. Inner city car chases.. Punishment beatings.. And now, they mutilate poor ponies legs, to such a state that they have to be put down.

If 2 families want to beat the crap out of each other - then go for it. But don't involve innocent animals with it.. And the petrol bombs have already hit the wrong houses. They are going to end up killing an innocent child.. And for what? Over a bareknuckle fight. It's disgusting.

The whole city's patience is wearing really thin about this. There are some very nice law-abiding travellers.. But there are also many here, especially in Waterford who take it too the extreme.

Sharpshooter

emo!! wrote: »

i understand that, but like i said its not the only thing that happend that night.. you really have to be living around here to see how bad it is between the two feuding communities, and i do agree with you that it could all and well be some random scumbag that did this, but like i said living around here wether it was them or not, they still need to be something done about there feuding

Is there a particular reason that you cannot say what the other things are , emo , not saying that they haven't happened , but it is strange for you to comment on it twice and not say what it is.:)

RxQueen

sharpshooterH wrote: »

Is there a particular reason that you cannot say what the other things are , emo , not saying that they haven't happened , but it is strange for you to comment on it twice and not say what it is.:)

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1219/shooting.html

and they were more earlier in the week.. consindence(sp i fail ) i think not

Terry

dlofnep wrote: »

This feud has been going on here for a year now. Multiple shootings. Multiple petrol bomb attacks. Pipe bombs.. Inner city car chases.. Punishment beatings.. And now, they mutilate poor ponies legs, to such a state that they have to be put down.

If 2 families want to beat the crap out of each other - then go for it. But don't involve innocent animals with it.. And the petrol bombs have already hit the wrong houses. They are going to end up killing an innocent child.. And for what? Over a bareknuckle fight. It's disgusting.

The whole city's patience is wearing really thin about this. There are some very nice law-abiding travellers.. But there are also many here, especially in Waterford who take it too the extreme.

Proof?

I want conclusive proof of who committed this crime.
Can you provide that?

If not, then don't post in this thread again.

Terry

emo!! wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1219/shooting.html

and they were more earlier in the week.. consindence(sp i fail ) i think not

Shots were fired at two houses in separate incidents in Waterford and Limerick this morning.

Gardaí say two shots were fired at a house in Waterford's Birchwood estate at around 1.30am.

A number of people were in the house at the time but no-one was injured. Some damage was caused to a front bedroom window of the house.
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Gardaí are appealing for witnesses who may have seen two cars being driven away from the scene.

It follows similar incidents in the Williamstown and St John's Park area of the city earlier in the week.

It is understood the shooting is also related to the ongoing Traveller feud.

In Limerick, shots were also fired at a house in St Mary's Park at around 5am.

The house was occupied at the time, but no one was injured.

The scene has been sealed off for a technical examination.

There have been no arrests

Where's the proof?

sunshinegirl

a few horses killed up the northside in cork,heads cut off and so on.it was reported on red fm last week.

Sharpshooter

emo!! wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1219/shooting.html

and they were more earlier in the week.. consindence(sp i fail ) i think not

Thanks emo , I read the link , but I am a bit confused as to who was living in the house that the shots were fired on.
It doesn't say that they were travellers.
Unless I missed something.:o

SAVE_ME.222

uberwolf wrote: »

yeah. Super, we'll let the vegans have a discussion about this and let them come back to us with how we should feel.

This is a question of scumbags causing unnecessary cruelty to animals. Spiteful wánkers.

Come on, it is a LITTLE hypocritical of meat-eating people to express outrage at this incident.

The majority of chicken that is eaten here and everywhere in the world has been subjected to cruelty its entire life, confined to tiny cages with their beaks hammered off to stop them attacking each other out of frustration.

By eating chicken on a regular basis you are indirectly responsible for this cruelty. If less people ate chicken, less of them would be breed which = less cruelty. Don't even get me started on pork.

The only other thing I can say as I said in the vegetarian forum before, most people are unaware of this information. Good advertising, marketing and packaging of meat hides this.

RxQueen

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Where's the proof?

do you live around here?? no , i do and i was there the time the thing near the apple market happened a few month ago and it clear as day who is doing it... theres certain house being targeted and it doesnt take a genius to figure out why...

thats my 2 cents on it , i wont post in this thead anymore, i dont want to be accused by ye as saying im pointing the finger or whatever cause i understand that the horse thing could all and well be some local scumbags, but simple fact is you dont live around here and alot of things are going by unnoticed or not up on news bulletins purely for the fact that is doesnt interest other people in other areas, but we're here hearing and seeing it every week

Sharpshooter

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

Come on, it is a LITTLE hypocritical of meat-eating people to express outrage at this incident.

The majority of chicken that is eaten here and everywhere in the world has been subjected to cruelty its entire life, confined to tiny cages with their beaks hammered off to stop them attacking each other out of frustration.

By eating chicken on a regular basis you are indirectly responsible for this cruelty. If less people ate chicken, less of them would be breed which = less cruelty. Don't even get me started on pork.

The only other thing I can say as I said in the vegetarian forum before, most people are unaware of this information. Good advertising, marketing and packaging of meat hides this.

I eat chicken and eggs ( Free range ) but I think you would be better sticking to the vegetarian forum on this one as you more than likely won't get the response you are after here.
I can see where you are coming from though.

SAVE_ME.222

sharpshooterH wrote: »

I eat chicken and eggs ( Free range ) but I think you would be better sticking to the vegetarian forum on this one as you more than likely won't get the response you are after here.
I can see where you are coming from though.

I think my point was relevant to the thread, people will post up here saying "Horses legs being hacked off, God thats disgraceful, whats the world coming to" etc, while eating a bucket of chicken legs. Doesn't make sense!

Biggins

If folk have a problem with other folk, ther are just plain brainless cowards to take it up/out on defenceless animals.

Its a sign of a sick twisted mind they possess, not intelligence.

I hope and pray the full lenght of the law will be enforced if they are caught.

the_syco

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Where's the proof?

I doubt anyone will claim responsibility, or if any proof will appear, as per usual. Nor will any charges be brought.

Biggins wrote: »

Its a sign of a sick twisted mind they possess, not intelligence.

I hope and pray the full lenght of the law will be enforced if they are caught.

Horsies are prized by the travellers. As for the law, the travellers are above the law.

Papad

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Proof?

I want conclusive proof of who committed this crime.
Can you provide that?

If not, then don't post in this thread again.

I think that it's ridiculous that you want the names of the people who committed this crime, with the implied threat that the poster will be banned if they want to discuss this issue further.

You are coming across as a bit of a bully and not suitable to moderate this forum.

mayordenis

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

Come on, it is a LITTLE hypocritical of meat-eating people to express outrage at this incident.

The majority of chicken that is eaten here and everywhere in the world has been subjected to cruelty its entire life, confined to tiny cages with their beaks hammered off to stop them attacking each other out of frustration.

By eating chicken on a regular basis you are indirectly responsible for this cruelty. If less people ate chicken, less of them would be breed which = less cruelty. Don't even get me started on pork.

The only other thing I can say as I said in the vegetarian forum before, most people are unaware of this information. Good advertising, marketing and packaging of meat hides this.

aye exactly the same as taking a machete to the back leg of a pony.
Get a grip please.

mayordenis

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

I think my point was relevant to the thread, people will post up here saying "Horses legs being hacked off, God thats disgraceful, whats the world coming to" etc, while eating a bucket of chicken legs. Doesn't make sense!

What if I know my chicken has been ethically killed? nonsense of the highest order.

Sharpshooter

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

I think my point was relevant to the thread, people will post up here saying "Horses legs being hacked off, God thats disgraceful, whats the world coming to" etc, while eating a bucket of chicken legs. Doesn't make sense!

Just to clarify , it was ponies , and I for one would not eat a pony.
As I said , I eat free range chicken and eggs , I am not a vegetarian , but I would rather my choice of food didn't suffer unnecessarily in order for it to get to my table.

I won't comment futher as it is going off topic.:)

SAVE_ME.222

mayordenis wrote: »

aye exactly the same as taking a machete to the back leg of a pony.
Get a grip please.

It's actually WORSE in my opinion. Ever eaten in KFC?

KFC suppliers cram birds into huge waste-filled factories, breed and drug them to grow so large that they can't even walk, and often break their wings and legs. At slaughter, the birds' throats are slit and they are dropped into tanks of scalding-hot water—often while they are still conscious. It would be illegal for KFC to abuse dogs, cats, pigs, or cows in these ways.

It's worse because this is being done behind closed doors to millions of them every day.

You are a typical "what I don't know doesn't affect me" person. Educate yourself.

dlofnep

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Proof?

I want conclusive proof of who committed this crime.
Can you provide that?

If not, then don't post in this thread again.

Everything I said is 100% accurate and true. Don't address me in that manner, because I know fully well you wouldn't address me like that in person. You could have politely asked me for some articles on the situation, instead of parading, swinging your sheriff badge around.

What exactly is it you want me to prove? That Travellers cut off the legs of ponies? That Travellers in Waterford have been involved in a year-long feud, which started from a bare-knuckle boxing fight. Do you live in Waterford? Iknow exactly who is responsible. So does the entire city. So does the Gardaí.

In relation to the ponies and attacks this week: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1219/1229523100701.html

Gardaí in Waterford city have confirmed they believe the attacks are connected with the ongoing Travellers feud that has resulted in a spate of violent incidents since July.

Here is an overview of the entire situation and how it started: http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/traveller-feud-severely-tests-garda-resources/

Here is information on the court cases: http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/bail-refused-in-traveller-feud-case/

I suggest reading the material before swinging that sheriff badge at me again.

Terry

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

I think my point was relevant to the thread, people will post up here saying "Horses legs being hacked off, God thats disgraceful, whats the world coming to" etc, while eating a bucket of chicken legs. Doesn't make sense!

There's a forum for that type of thing.
I'm about to enjoy a nice chicken madras. Save us from your rants, Jericho.

Papad wrote: »

I think that it's ridiculous that you want the names of the people who committed this crime, with the implied threat that the poster will be banned if they want to discuss this issue further.

There is no freedom of speech on this site.
I'm here to prevent possible libel action by anyone wrongly accused of anything.
I'm also here to balance the discussion so that it doesn't trn into a traveller bashing thread.
If you have a problem with travellers, then take your problem elsewhere.

You are coming across as a bit of a bully and not suitable to moderate this forum.

Problem with my moderating?
Take it up in feedback.

SAVE_ME.222

sharpshooterH wrote: »

As I said , I eat free range chicken and eggs , I am not a vegetarian , but I would rather my choice of food didn't suffer unnecessarily in order for it to get to my table.

Believe me you are in the minority.

Terry

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

It's actually WORSE in my opinion. Ever eaten in KFC?



It's worse because this is being done behind closed doors to millions of them every day.

You are a typical "what I don't know doesn't affect me" person. Educate yourself.

Last chance to stop your veggie ranting.

dlofnep wrote: »

Everything I said is 100% accurate and true.

Prove it.

Don't address me in that manner, because I know fully well you wouldn't address me like that in person.

I probably would.

You could have politely asked me for some articles on the situation, instead of parading, swinging your sheriff badge around.

You could have not pinted fingers at people without concrete proof.

What exactly is it you want me to prove? That Travellers cut off the legs of ponies? That Travellers in Waterford have been involved in a year-long feud, which started from a bare-knuckle boxing fight. Do you live in Waterford? Iknow exactly who is responsible. So does the entire city. So does the Gardaí.

In relation to the ponies and attacks this week: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1219/1229523100701.html

Here is an overview of the entire situation and how it started: http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/traveller-feud-severely-tests-garda-resources/

Here is information on the court cases: http://www.munster-express.ie/local-news/bail-refused-in-traveller-feud-case/

I suggest reading the material before swinging that sheriff badge at me again.

THREE HORSES have had to be put down in Waterford after being mutilated in two attacks believed to be connected to the ongoing Travellers' feud in the city.

The horses each had legs almost entirely hacked off by sharp instruments, possibly swords. The attacks have been condemned by gardaí who are investigating, and by animal rights groups.

In the first incident on Wednesday night, one horse was savagely attacked in a field off the Ballybeg Link Road before 9pm.

The incident came to light via an anonymous call to the Waterford Animal Concern group. It attended the scene with gardaí and found a four-year-old horse with a leg almost entirely hacked off. The animal was still alive but was put down by a vet.

The second incident - suspected to be in retaliation - saw two horses suffer similar injuries at the Williamstown halting site, just a few miles away, at about 10am yesterday. Two seven-month-old ponies had to be put down.

One had a leg severed and a severe laceration to a second leg. The other had a similar leg injury.

"The injuries were absolutely horrendous," said Andrew Quinn of the Waterford Animal Concern group. "I've never seen anything like it before and I can't even begin to describe the type of mentality in a person that could cause them to do something like this.

"In all my years of working with animals, I've never seen such appalling instances of animal cruelty. I was still shaking for hours afterwards. I will never forget the scenes."

Alliance for Animal Rights spokesman Bernie Wright said, "We're calling for justice for these innocent animals that suffered this inhuman indescribable abuse.These incidents would make people ashamed to be human."

Gardaí in Waterford city have confirmed they believe the attacks are connected with the ongoing Travellers feud that has resulted in a spate of violent incidents since July.

They also believe two shooting incidents and a petrol-bombing are connected. Shots were fired at a house occupied by five people at The Crescent, St John's Park, at 8pm on Wednesday. Shots were later fired in the direction of another property at the Williamstown halting site, at 2.35am yesterday. Nobody was injured.

Meanwhile, a house at Briot Close, in Templar's Hall estate close to Ballybeg, had a petrol bomb thrown through its patio door at 12.30am yesterday. The house has been vacant for six weeks.

Sgt Larry Langton said anyone with information should contact Ballybricken Garda station on 051-874888.

The Travellers feud began when a bare-knuckle fight between rival families spiralled out of control. There have been violent incidents including assaults, criminal damage, arson, car-rammings and shootings since then.

No proof there.

Why don't you get on to Larry Langton and tell him everything you know?

Maybe you can put these criminals away, seeing as how you saw the whole thing go down and all of your so called evidence isn't hear say.

Also, don't question me again regarding my moderating decisions or I will ban you.
If you have a problem with my moderating, then take it up in feedback.

colly10

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

I'm here to prevent possible libel action by anyone wrongly accused of anything.

If Boards were libel then the Gardai would be also, they have said that they believe it was members of the traveling community and this is what the majority of people from the area appear to believe.
Just because their in a minority does not mean that you should not be able to speak about it. I could have seen this with my own eyes but can't point a finger cause I don't have physical evidence

colly10

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

You could have not pinted fingers at people without concrete proof.

If it's ok for the Gardai, the times and rte then id be pretty sure its safe for him

Jimbo

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

It's actually WORSE in my opinion. Ever eaten in KFC?



It's worse because this is being done behind closed doors to millions of them every day.

You are a typical "what I don't know doesn't affect me" person. Educate yourself.

How anyone can compare the brutal hacking of an intelligent animal like a horse to the swift and humane slaughter of a chicken for human consumpition is beyond me.
Get a grip.

brianthebard

emo!! wrote: »

do you live around here?? no , i do and i was there the time the thing near the apple market happened a few month ago and it clear as day who is doing it... theres certain house being targeted and it doesnt take a genius to figure out why...

Justice doesn't work by pointing at the outsiders and blaming them for everything.

mayordenis wrote: »

aye exactly the same as taking a machete to the back leg of a pony.
Get a grip please.

Who said it was a machete? Settled people don't have knives now? It may well be connected to the feud, insofar as a bunch of "housies" (my new name for ignorant people who blame "tinkers/pikeys" for everything) may have decided to attack something they know has a lot of value to travellers. How long has this feud been going on, and yet this is afaik the first incident of person on horse violence. Do you not think its a bit rich to be blaming travellers for this as well?

dlofnep wrote: »

Everything I said is 100% accurate and true. Don't address me in that manner, because I know fully well you wouldn't address me like that in person. You could have politely asked me for some articles on the situation, instead of parading, swinging your sheriff badge around.

What exactly is it you want me to prove? That Travellers cut off the legs of ponies? That Travellers in Waterford have been involved in a year-long feud, which started from a bare-knuckle boxing fight. Do you live in Waterford? Iknow exactly who is responsible. So does the entire city. So does the Gardaí.

In relation to the ponies and attacks this week: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1219/1229523100701.html

Gardaí in Waterford city have confirmed they believe the attacks are connected with the ongoing Travellers feud that has resulted in a spate of violent incidents since July.

I can highlight text too, watch! You missed the part where it says gardai believe it is connected to the fued, but ignored that they didn't say it was the fault of the travellers. I love how people think because they live somewhere they automatically have a fuller understanding of the facts, even though the official enquiry doesn't. vigilante's ftw.

brianthebard

jimbo78 wrote: »

How anyone can compare the brutal hacking of an intelligent animal like a horse to the swift and humane slaughter of a chicken for human consumpition is beyond me.
Get a grip.

Tell that to the French.

Terry

colly10 wrote: »

If Boards were libel then the Gardai would be also, they have said that they believe it was members of the traveling community and this is what the majority of people from the area appear to believe.
Just because their in a minority does not mean that you should not be able to speak about it. I could have seen this with my own eyes but can't point a finger cause I don't have physical evidence

There's a difference between the Gardaí saying they believe someone did sometihng and some keyboard vigilante here saying they are sure that person did it.

Sharpshooter

colly10 wrote: »

If Boards were libel then the Gardai would be also, they have said that they believe it was members of the traveling community and this is what the majority of people from the area appear to believe.
Just because their in a minority does not mean that you should not be able to speak about it. I could have seen this with my own eyes but can't point a finger cause I don't have physical evidence

You can believe that the sun covers itself with a blanket , called the moon. ( don't ask , it is not thread related ) my point being, believing something does not make it truth.

dlofnep

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Prove it.

No, you prove that it's not.

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

I probably would.

I assure you, you wouldn't.

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

You could have not pinted fingers at people without concrete proof.

Pinted fingers? Oh.. I get it. We can't discuss anything on here without it being processed through the courts. I think you'll find that all those beatings and fights have already been processed through the courts (I linked the article) and the culprits prosecuted. Given that these pony attacks were only yesterday - it would be very hard for that to happen, now wouldn't it.

FTR:

(A) I didn't mention any names, so I am not stating anything that is libel.
(B) If you actually lived in Waterford, you'd know who's responsible.
(C) The gardaí have already confirmed that they believe it is the feuding families. If they are to believe it is so, then why shouldn't we?

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Why don't you get on to Larry Langton and tell him everything you know?

They know just as much, if not more than I or the rest of the community know.

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Maybe you can put these criminals away, seeing as how you saw the whole thing go down and all of your so called evidence isn't hear say.

No I didn't see it all going down. Can't say I'd like to see a pony get mutilated.. I have friends living in the area who know. Not to mention, it isn't exactly a big secret that there is a feud on in Waterford right now between two feuding traveller families. And guess what? Those families have their ponies and horses mutilated.

I suppose that's just a big coincidence. Right?

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

Also, don't question me again regarding my moderating decisions or I will ban you.
If you have a problem with my moderating, then take it up in feedback.

I don't have a problem with your moderating. I have a problem with your attitude as a poster, and judging by a previous post. I'm not the only one. If you want to ban me because I dislike your attitude, go for it bub.

dlofnep

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

There's a difference between the Gardaí saying they believe someone did sometihng and some keyboard vigilante here saying they are sure that person did it.

What "person"? Who named anyone in this thread?

SAVE_ME.222

jimbo78 wrote: »

How anyone can compare the brutal hacking of an intelligent animal like a horse to the swift and humane slaughter of a chicken for human consumpition is beyond me.
Get a grip.

"Swift and humane" , my god what planet are you living on? I suggest you visit a chicken factory then get back to me.

Sharpshooter

colly10 wrote: »

If Boards were libel then the Gardai would be also, they have said that they believe it was members of the traveling community and this is what the majority of people from the area appear to believe.
Just because their in a minority does not mean that you should not be able to speak about it. I could have seen this with my own eyes but can't point a finger cause I don't have physical evidence

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

There's a difference between the Gardaí saying they believe someone did sometihng and some keyboard vigilante here saying they are sure that person did it.

dlofnep wrote: »

What "person"? Who named anyone in this thread?

I think , and I could be wrong , that the Keyboard Vigilante spoken about here is not an individual.
Just an overall opinion on certain posts.

Terry

Wait. Didn't I tell you not to post in this thread again without proof?

Banned.

Terry

SAVE_ME.222 wrote: »

"Swift and humane" , my god what planet are you living on? I suggest you visit a chicken factory then get back to me.

Also baned.

Blush_01

Once again, not reading the whole thread, so forgive me if someone else has said this already.

Regardless of what you might say or think about travellers, they usually have the ultimate respect for their animals, and for them to attack each other's animals things must really be bad.

Snake Plisken

Blush_01 wrote: »

Once again, not reading the whole thread, so forgive me if someone else has said this already.

Regardless of what you might say or think about travellers, they usually have the ultimate respect for their animals, and for them to attack each other's animals things must really be bad.

Ha HA thats a good one, you obviously haven't seen them driving up and down roads whipping and beating their horses, also stealing dogs and leaving them tied to poles with no shelter, I've seen this first hand in Tipp :mad:

Papad

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Ha HA thats a good one, you obviously haven't seen them driving up and down roads whipping and beating their horses, also stealing dogs and leaving them tied to poles with no shelter, I've seen this first hand in Tipp :mad:

Most of us in this country have at one time seen this. But do you have conclusive proof that it happened? I know. My request sounds ludicrous.

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

I'm here to prevent possible libel action by anyone wrongly accused of anything.

But you ask for conclusive proof. This would require naming people. So here is his quagmire: if he does not provide conclusive proof, he will be banned. If he does, it may be libelous. What is the solution here?

<3BeingIN6th wrote: »

If you have a problem with travellers, then take your problem elsewhere.

Where did I state a problem with travellers? Are you making assumptions?