Calling Dubliners west Brits

Hub

I read in the accent thread

"Ooooh ye jackeens, you're nothin but a bunch of west brits"

"Dubliners are closet English people"

Seriously...what does that even mean? Is it supposed to be an insult or something. Probably the lamest slag ever

Ruu_Old

Dubs call country folk culchies, culchies call Dubliners west Brits and Jackeens. Game over. No one wins. ;_;

brianthebard

Thought west brit had become a term of abuse from 'ra heads directed at anyone who doesn't believe in their "cause"?

Davidius

'cause they'ze thinkin they'ze British?

Insect Overlord

Thread fail tbh

fathersymes

Generally uttered from the lower socio-economic classes, those who have dinner at lunch time refer to people from Dublin as jackeens and vice-vera. It's basically insular xenophobia found amongst the uneducated.

Hub

An Fhile wrote: »

Thread fail tbh

Wow! Haha

That is so cool. You posted "Thread fail tbh"

The tbh stands for "To be honest" right? Cool!

Haha. Thanks for being so honest and venomously witty all at the same time m8!!!!!!!11

Davidius

fathersymes wrote: »

Generally uttered from the lower socio-economic classes, those who have dinner at lunch time refer to people from Dublin as jackeens and vice-vera. It's basically insular xenophobia found amongst the uneducated.

No, you!

MooseJam

where were all the culchies in 1916

Thirdfox

Well Dublin was the traditional stronghold of English forces - you wouldn't want to go beyond the Pale with all those uncultured Irish savages living in the mountains and raiding your sheep...

I've never heard of Jackeen though - what's its etymology?

Mossy Monk

Hub wrote: »

Wow! Haha

That is so cool. You posted "Thread fail tbh"

The tbh stands for "To be honest" right? Cool!

Haha. Thanks for being so honest and venomously witty all at the same time m8!!!!!!!11

FAIL

I guess that makes me cool too.

Collie D

Thirdfox wrote: »

Well Dublin was the traditional stronghold of English forces - you wouldn't want to go beyond the Pale with all those uncultured Irish savages living in the mountains and raiding your sheep...

I've never heard of Jackeen though - what's its etymology?

Union Jack. You've really never heard that?

Gran Hermano

As already alluded to 'west brit' is a culchie expression to refer to anyone
who lives in Dublin as opposed to a bog-man who lives in the sticks but shops
in Tesco/B&Q/Currys/Top Shop/M&S, watches BBC/ITV/C4/Sky
and supports an English/Scottish soccer team.

Insect Overlord

Hub wrote: »

Wow! Haha

That is so cool. You posted "Thread fail tbh"

The tbh stands for "To be honest" right? Cool!

Haha. Thanks for being so honest and venomously witty all at the same time m8!!!!!!!11

Oh. My. God!

Dude, that is the best sarcasm I have EVER seen.

Bravo, man, bravo.

tony1kenobi

MooseJam wrote: »

where were all the culchies in 1916

Probaby weren't born yet. It was 90 odd years ago.

ejmaztec

MooseJam wrote: »

where were all the culchies in 1916

They were down the bookies putting money on the Brits to win.

Hub

I know what the phrase means and who calls it to whom and I have the basic understanding that it's retarded xenophobia/rivalry.

What I want to know is what are you hoping to achieve? What are your aims. What the **** are you smoking/drinking?

Is it a case of LOL! ENGLISH PEOPLE!!!!11

Because they're not even English? Irish passports. Accents. Oh wait a second! It's because they wear scarfs, right? I get it now, it's all about the scarfs. English people wear those things...right? They picked it up from the French, I think?

It's like Jimmy Carr said "I'm not actually gay...unless you're from Newcastle...where being gay means you own a coat!"

Davidius

From my understanding it's mostly harmless slagging and nobody really takes it seriously.

Have people been serious this whole time!? My world has been destroyed!

Hagar

ejmaztec wrote: »

They were down the bookies putting money on the Brits to win.

May I refer you to this thread? Culchies? I'd rather have hives.

Insect Overlord

Davidius wrote: »

From my understanding it's mostly harmless slagging and nobody should take it seriously.

FYP

Some people are too sensitive!

Holsten

Of course it's lame, bog warriors say it.

SoWatchaWant

West Brits are Irish People who want to be British- like Terry Wogan, and a number of Irish people in showbiz working in the UK. They come from all parts of the country.

Dubliners such as myself would resent people outside the pale calling them West Brits.

Tar.Aldarion

brianthebard wrote: »

Thought west brit had become a term of abuse from 'ra heads directed at anyone who doesn't believe in their "cause"?

+1
Anybody that I have never heard say teh term has been a retard.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

So what do you call Brits then - West Europeans..?

Hank Scorpio

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

So what do you call Brits then - West Europeans..?

arseholes

javaboy

Jackeen is fine by me even though it basically means the same thing as West Brit. West Brit is usually said with a bit more venom than jackeen/culchie so I usually see it as offensive.

Wertz

Okay as this thread is seemingly indirectly addressing me (since I was the only one who used the term in the thread which the OP felt he couldn't post in, and instead decided to start a new one) I'm just going to clear up the fact that when I used the term it was solely on the level of the annoying accent.
I think the string I used was "west brit/mid atlantic/SoCal/Dort".
This string solely refers to the inflection, intonation and word usage associated with certain Dublin accents that have emerged in modern times...as far as the "west brit" part goes, it refers to those Dubliners that speak with the rarified upperclass tones that are more associated with the English than they are the Irish, and in particular where it is exaggerated or put on, in some attempt to sound as if they're from anywhere but Dublin.
The term was not meant as a slur either politically or otherwise. As for my usage of it...sue me, I grew up on the border and it's a phrase that's common in these parts (for the wrong reasons alluded to by others). The term carries baggage and seems to have annoyed some people on here, but let me again say that it was not meant in the context which the OP has taken it up. I won't apologise for using it though.

TPD

nuxxx wrote: »

arseholes

RACIST!

thepoolgirl

nuxxx wrote: »

arseholes

I'm english watch your manners :mad:

Hank Scorpio

thepoolgirl wrote: »

I'm english watch your manners :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSHaCzb3yYk

Bottle_of_Smoke

Jackeen is kind of a culchy reversal. Though it's losing out to Junkie recently

People who say West Brit are always cock knockers who think being a republican makes them cultured/important

Bob the Builder

Dublin people are so far up their own hole, they'd need a dentist to get themselves out.

Just because ye have the Luas, you all think you have the god given privelage to act like ****, both when you're in Dublin and when ye are at your holiday homes and stag parties in Mayo.

You think that just because everything is in Dublin, and that the NRA, a prime example, are suspending all but one road development in the West, yet increasing investment for Dublin roads, that you all can call anything outside of your poxy commuter belts in Dublin, culchie's, when in fact that term is only named after one town in Ireland (Kiltamagh).

MooseJam wrote: »

where were all the culchies in 1916

My grandad was a bogman from a hill in a shíthole in Mayo. He led attacks against the auxilliaries in the West. Fully trained in Guerilla warfare, and along with 4 other men, patrolled the Sheeffry Hills in Leenane. There was a total of 900 IRA members - 400 active in Mayo alone in 1917.

Just because it isn't in your history book that anywhere outside of Dublin and cork were attacked, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. DeValera was a culchie(West Clare), as was Michael Collins (Cork) and a lot more of the people in Bolands Mills in 1916. Not everyone in the History books is from Dublin - you do know that?

Nehaxak

Bleedin' culchies, settle down and eat some potatoes.

Thirdfox

Collie D wrote: »

Union Jack. You've really never heard that?

Nope - must be the company I hang around with I would have guessed that it was just an Irish name or something...

Bob the Builder wrote: »

Dublin people are so far up their own hole, they'd need a dentist to get themselves out...

Just because it isn't in your history book that anywhere outside of Dublin and cork were attacked, it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. DeValera was a culchie(West Clare), as was Michael Collins (Cork) and a lot more of the people in Bolands Mills in 1916. Not everyone in the History books is from Dublin - you do know that?

No need to be so serious on AH - all that's going to bring you is pent up rage and a hernia...

javaboy

Bob the Builder wrote: »

Dublin people are so far up their own hole, they'd need a dentist to get themselves out.

Just because ye have the Luas, you all think you have the god given privelage to act like ****, both when you're in Dublin and when ye are at your holiday homes and stag parties in Mayo.

You think that just because everything is in Dublin, and that the NRA, a prime example, are suspending all but one road development in the West, yet increasing investment for Dublin roads, that you all can call anything outside of your poxy commuter belts in Dublin, culchie's, when in fact that term is only named after one town in Ireland (Kiltamagh).

Sony. Aiwa. Alba. Panasonic. Pioneer. Acoustic Solutions. JVC. Philips. :rolleyes:

pipsqueak

The term jackeens arose during the easter rebellion when a british gunboat came steaming in up the liffey with guns ready. The brave dubs who lived along the liffey up at Bull wall and North wall hung union jack flags out their windows so that the brits wouldnt shoot/bomb them.
a little knowlege goes a long way!

Bob the Builder

Nehaxak wrote: »

Bleedin' culchies, settle down and eat some potatoes.

I fúcking potatoes.

Thirdfox wrote: »

No need to be so serious on AH - all that's going to bring you is pent up rage and a hernia...

It's good for letting out steam. Dublin customers, coming into the shopping, pisses you off... been dying to get that off my chest for weeks.

javaboy wrote: »

Sony. Aiwa. Alba. Panasonic. Pioneer. Acoustic Solutions. JVC. Philips. :rolleyes:

Sounds about right

Tar.Aldarion

pipsqueak wrote: »

The term jackeens arose during the easter rebellion when a british gunboat came steaming in up the liffey with guns ready. The brave dubs who lived along the liffey up at Bull wall and North wall hung union jack flags out their windows so that the brits wouldnt shoot/bomb them.
a little knowlege goes a long way!

So it means smart?

sdanseo

Hub wrote: »

"Dubliners are closet English people"

r

Don't be stupid. That's completely isolated to anyone from Killiney, Foxrock or the parts of Howth with a sea view.

pipsqueak

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

So it means smart?

smart? smart in the way that their fellow country men who were holed up in buildings around dublin and being bombed out of smart?
yea you say they were smart

pipsqueak

could say sic

javaboy

pipsqueak wrote: »

smart? smart in the way that their fellow country men who were holed up in buildings around dublin and being bombed out of smart?
yea you say they were smart

But you said they did it "so that the brits wouldnt shoot/bomb them". If you ask me it's smarter to grit your teeth, wave the flag, save your skin and live to fight another day than to let yourself get shot and bombed during an unpopular badly organised rising.

I wouldn't be happy about it but principles are no good to you if you're dead.

pipsqueak

javaboy wrote: »

But you said they did it "so that the brits wouldnt shoot/bomb them". If you ask me it's smarter to grit your teeth, wave the flag, save your skin and live to fight another day than to let yourself get shot and bombed during an unpopular badly organised rising.

I wouldn't be happy about it but principles are no good to you if you're dead.

spoken like a true dub!!!

javaboy

pipsqueak wrote: »

spoken like a true dub!!!

Not doing your country any favours getting killed when you're outnumbered and outgunned imo. It's admirable and admittedly more courageous than waving the flag but foolhardy nonetheless.

Nehaxak

I only use the word culchie as a lighthearted bit of banter, as I'm sure most people do but some of you are taking it way too much to heart on here. No need to start another civil war lads, there's plenty of potatoes to go around.

Only difference between us really is that in Dublin we make chips from the potatoes and cover them with curry sauce and cheese. Culchies just eat the potatoes raw and sometimes smothered with pigs blood on Sundays.

What's the problem ?

Hub

Originally Posted by Hub View Post

"Dubliners are closet English people"

sdonn_1 wrote: »

Don't be stupid. That's completely isolated to anyone from Killiney, Foxrock or the parts of Howth with a sea view.

Yeah but did I f~cking say that Einstein? That's probably why I put it in " "

pipsqueak

Two howaya sluts walk into Brown Thomas (Dublin), they stroll up to the perfume counter and pick up a sample bottle. Sharon sprays it on her wrist and smells it: 'Dat's quite nice innit, don't you tink Jacinta?'. 'Yeah, what's it called?'. 'Viens a moi' 'VIENS A MOI, what the f##k does that mean? At this stage the assistant offers some help. 'Viens a moi, ladies, is French for "come to me". Sharon, takes another sniff and offers her arm to Jacinta again saying, "That doesn't smell like come to me, does that smell like come to you?".

sdanseo

Hub wrote: »

Yeah but did I f~cking say that Einstein? That's probably why I put it in " "

Sorry I should have put massive big flashing sarcasm tags in there somewhere.

It's 3am, t'was meant light-heartedly

Hub

Yeah well just don't let it happen again

sdanseo

Hub wrote: »

Yeah well just don't let it happen again

Yes boss.

*Drafts hate mail

PurpleFistMixer

Calling someone a westbrit is an insult. It generally means the person is acting like they'd rather be British than Irish. Examples would be acting mad posh with accents and golf clubs or whatever aspiring rich people do nowadays and shunning Irish culture and history like it's some unsightly and frankly embarassing boil. Oh, and being a unionist doesn't help either.