Is Trance becoming a dirty word?

Seanie M

joker77 wrote: »

...some of the Reactivate albums, all that stuff.

Now THERE'S a few memories! React Records had a class amount of Hardcore, Trance and Psi (Goa?) in the mid-90's. I only started collecting the Reactivates from 10 onwards (remember the funky marine animals on the covers?) and 10 was by far the best, and in my opinion, ahead of its time.

I don't know myself if 'Trance' is a dirty genre. I still play Old School Trance and House in my gigs regularly with positive results for the most part. It's a preference thing too - I don't like much of the mish-mash of rehashed re-resampled dance music of today. Of course I will play it as that is what people want to hear. If it ain't broke, then why the hell did they try fixing it? I'd love to hear some of my earlier influences at their gigs (Mauro Picotto, Van Dyk, Tall Paul, Verocacha, Westbam remixes, Matt Darey, and more), however, they have also moved on to the whole funky/acid house of the past 5 years or so, which makes me a little sad (apart from Matt Darey).

Back on topic, no, I don't think 'Trance' is a dirty word, and when I think back about the amount of requests to play/not to play, the positives work out in my favour.

Seanie.

L1011

Seanie M wrote: »

? I'd love to hear some of my earlier influences at their gigs (Mauro Picotto, Van Dyk, Tall Paul, Verocacha, Westbam remixes, Matt Darey, and more), however, they have also moved on to the whole funky/acid house of the past 5 years or so, which makes me a little sad (apart from Matt Darey).

Van Dyk hasn't gone anywhere close to house... Veracocha did one track and the more famous constituent part (Corsten) also hasn't gone anywhere close to house. So its them and Darey that are still at the old stuff.

All three have played with less-trancey stuff (Van Dyk's last album; Corsten's L.E.F. album, Darey's recent track "Animal"; but are still mostly trance artists.

And Picotto hasn't gone house either, but he sure as hell isn't playing what he used to.....

RaverRo808

To me trance was good in the early nineties,in regards the asylum hard trance stuff,rob-D and DMB and the like,but nowadays its pure muck,real cheesey crap that seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,again you cant beat the oldskool

RaverRo808

RaverRo808 wrote: »

To me trance was good in the early nineties,in regards the asylum hard trance stuff,rob-D and DMB and the like,but nowadays its pure muck,real cheesey crap that seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,again you cant beat the oldskool

Sorry Ro but you´re the first post I am quoting cause I could not be arsed sifting through all this ****.

People have to realise that the sort of sounds that made Platipus, Eye Q among others, are no longer being made and just because the only time they may hear trance is on MTV or some fcukwank station, it does not mean that there is no good stuff being produced.

Anyone listen to the likes of John Digweed for instance? People class him as a ´house´dj when in reality there´s no way you could put him down as one genre at this day. His sets are powerful, amazingly built and I´d like to hear anyone over 21 and a half say they are not good

Oh btw RaverRo808, if that IS your REAL name, you weren´t that disappointed with trance in my apt last year if my memory serves me correctly, although I will admit I was fooked

Scubadevils

Jay D wrote: »

Sorry Ro but you´re the first post I am quoting cause I could not be arsed sifting through all this ****.

People have to realise that the sort of sounds that made Platipus, Eye Q among others, are no longer being made and just because the only time they may hear trance is on MTV or some fcukwank station, it does not mean that there is no good stuff being produced.

Anyone listen to the likes of John Digweed for instance? People class him as a ´house´dj when in reality there´s no way you could put him down as one genre at this day. His sets are powerful, amazingly built and I´d like to hear anyone over 21 and a half say they are not good

Oh btw RaverRo808, if that IS your REAL name, you weren´t that disappointed with trance in my apt last year if my memory serves me correctly, although I will admit I was fooked

Yes, that's his real name, RaverRo808 O'Brien... he was a child of the ravers generation.

Felixdhc

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yes, that's his real name, RaverRo808 O'Brien... he was a child of the ravers generation.

btw is this Dave?

Scubadevils

Jay D wrote: »

btw is this Dave?

Tis aye

Scubadevils

Jay D wrote: »

btw is this Dave?

Actually is this Jay as in Dublin Trance?

Felixdhc

Felixdhc wrote: »

Actually is this Jay as in Dublin Trance?

nah who´s that? But you used to live by Finglas? East close to Glasnevin and now L?

Scubadevils

Jay D wrote: »

nah who´s that? But you used to live by Finglas? East close to Glasnevin and now L?

Yeah Are you not Jay who used to live in Duleek?

Yeah

Scubadevils

Jay D wrote: »

Yeah

Long time man, how you keeping?

It has been alright, I'm grand, been very busy of late moving again but lovely new apt with space for my ones and twos among other things.

Anything lined up over the Christmas?

Scubadevils

Not much, just planning a few days off to catch up on family, music etc... work mad busy the last while, changed jobs a few months ago and been pretty manic.

In the midst of a kidney stone (self diagnosis!) so just holding out till pain forces me to go to casualty, nice way to start the weekend :pac:

You on NI much these days?

Be-jeepers. I changed jobs as well in August but opposite to you the property market is slow as, so work is very quiet.
I do be on NI a little, just for randomness during work more so these days and it's quite boring at this stage.

I am however planning on getting CD decks in the coming year. Not exclusively changing or anything but they are handy to have and also I have to learn them a little just in case. NI I feel will be getting a little raped for an extended period then.


What are you playing these days?

Scubadevils

I'm still working in a similar industry - busy now with Christmas but would think it will be pretty quiet in Jan.

I am never on NI these days at all, just found it was the same old tracks stuck up without anything different... suppose that was bound to happen.

Rarely buy vinyl these days and have got bored with the decks I hate to say! Buy stupid amounts of CD's so will prob pick up CD decks soon too, much more of a desire to mix the tunes I'm listening to these days which are mainly techno and various other electronic varieties. Have a burning desire too to try my hand at some producing, just need the time to get my head around some of the software.

Again I'm the opposite and starved of deckage I really need to get my act together. Have you recorded any sets of late? My last one on record is May 2007 :eek:

You need to see to that desire. I am going to start building up a bit better setup, think I might EVEN get a Mac, that course sold it to me really although I just hope I do get the time to get serious with it.

Just thinking you've got the whole attic space for your stuff don't ya?

Scubadevils

The last mix I did was actually a pretty heavy oldskool techno / hard trance set... that I would think was about 2004 or so! :eek: It was definitely in the peak of the NI days anyway which would have been around then for me.

Actually got a new Mac myself recently and *got* some decent production software to get my teeth into, just really need to get used to how it works which definitely requires time. You should defo do the Mac thing, beats the hell out of PC imo. That course did the same for me, although it was pretty basic in ways, it definitely gave a serious taste for what could be done with the right equipment and knowledge.

Yeah have the attic converted and somewhat sound-proofed - enough to allow me play music loud without waking the kids anyway :pac: Fckin love it, best money ever spent and my little hideaway.

Yeah I'd say you are happy alright How did you go about soundproofing it?

The course was basic alright but like you say anyway it did the trick of luring us in to the want to do more. I haven't bothered with any software of late but am going to get myself started in the new year. I've forgotten how I used to regularly get rushes listening to my music. I need more that's for sure.

Scubadevils

The builder who did it is a friend of the family and he came up with lets say a cheaper method than a full pro job - basically he built a room-in-room in the attic with several layers in the walls and floor - made up of rock wool, acoustic sheets etc. The door does spill some sound out but not too bad, I'm sure I could do something to stop it.

I still get regular rushes from the CD's I buy... I do miss hunting for vinyl but it's just a new form of hunt! - vinyl has got too expensive, buy the odd one still though.

Still have a 12" of yours actually, spotted it only recently when flicking through some tunes... think it was a Dawntreader tune on Hook Recordings?

iPlop

gsparx wrote: »

it became a dirty word around 1999. people started sporting "trance sucks" t-shirts and the big names (oakenfold, sasha at al) started moving away from it.
it seemed to survive all that and the..."WORLD'S BEST DJ'S"....seem to spin trance. i suppose, because it can be the most accessible genre of dance music.
has it come full circle?

anyone who wore those t-****s usually liked underground slammin' techno dj's like Adam Bayer ,Speedy J ,CJ bolland and all that madness released on SHEEP records --Me included.I always hated oakenfold and in 2002 when tiesto became the no 1 DJ in the world I was livid I was like "how the fook can that nob jockey be the best DJ in the world his music is sh1te" Then this year I went to see the said nob jockey live and understood what it was about.It's all about the show for the crowd not how good your music is.Has it come full circle? dunno

what a label eh? I remember you said that to me before alright I must get it from you.

Sounds a top job on the attic front, my only concern though is neighbours thankfully so the door bit wouldn't be a prob, although surely you can sort that out IF you put time into it.

I do get rushes too like. I have been buying a lot of CDs too. Timo Maas Loud was my latest one and it's unmixed. I want to get Sven Vath, Sound of the 8th season too, because the gig he done in the Tripod as part of that tour was absolutely banging, you should have been there.
The thing is though that it's one thing listening without guiding the set although completely another when you are mixing away and a savage break comes out of nowhere etc :cool:

Scubadevils

Jay D wrote: »

what a label eh? I remember you said that to me before alright I must get it from you.

Sounds a top job on the attic front, my only concern though is neighbours thankfully so the door bit wouldn't be a prob, although surely you can sort that out IF you put time into it.

I do get rushes too like. I have been buying a lot of CDs too. Timo Maas Loud was my latest one and it's unmixed. I want to get Sven Vath, Sound of the 8th season too, because the gig he done in the Tripod as part of that tour was absolutely banging, you should have been there.
The thing is though that it's one thing listening without guiding the set although completely another when you are mixing away and a savage break comes out of nowhere etc :cool:

Yeah sure hook up soon and drop the record over, was a good label alright, along with Bellboy.

I mainly buy unmixed CD's, varying though from ambient to techno with lots in between... even picked up actually Sven Vath's first two albums only last week. Agree alright about just listening, often now while listening I'd be thinking how much I'd love to mix a tune in.

Yeah that would be great man, I'm away a lot over the Xmas but Jan we make a date and sort it, thanks