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The PC of fitness and fatness

  • 12-12-2008 2:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭


    Thinking about this a lot recently.

    I was talking to a friend last night about health and fitness and the guy asked me for some fitness advice.
    I told the guy that had about 1-2 stone of fat to lose and his girlfriend gave out to me for calling him fat :pac:

    'You can't say things like that' or 'don't be mean' when in fairness the guy was asking for some honest advice.
    If I called him a fat bastard I'd expect that reaction. Then again if I'd said he had excess adipose tissue situated around the abdominal and gluteal regions he wouldn't known what I was on about.

    If someone is overweight or obese is it wrong to say it?
    Surely it's only a insult if it's not true?
    This is not a one off sutuation either.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    You were perfectly right to say it.

    The girlfriend just didn't want to hear it. Stuff like that is probably best said on a one-to-one basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    An easier way is not to ask their weight, or mention how much they should lose. e.g. I would say to somebody my height, an ideal weight is 11.5-12.5stone, and leave them to figure out how much they have to lose themselves. I am not great at guessing weights anyway.

    My mates GF was talking about me losing weight a while ago and I told her I was now 12stone (she asked), she is a little overweight and asked me to guess her weight, I said I have no idea and I am bad at guessing and don't want to. If she insisted I would of course have gone low!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭Hugh_C


    rubadub wrote: »
    I would say to somebody my height, an ideal weight is 11.5-12.5stone,

    You must be vertically challenged (or a girl).

    :D

    I know I'm a bit on the heavy side, but when you get to my height (195 cm) I don't necessarily think that the body mass index holds true. In theory I should be 95 kg (15 stone) but given my build and age I'd look emaciated at that weight. I'm about 8 kg overweight by that scale but I don't feel obese.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    rubadub wrote: »
    My mates GF was talking about me losing weight a while ago and I told her I was now 12stone (she asked), she is a little overweight and asked me to guess her weight, I said I have no idea and I am bad at guessing and don't want to. If she insisted I would of course have gone low!

    You could have just said 'Well I wouldn't' ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,775 ✭✭✭EileenG


    Totally agree you can't go up to someone and say "You are a fat bastard, you need to lose weight". Though sometimes I'm tempted....

    But if someone asks you for straightforward advice, you are doing them a disservice if you don't tell the truth.

    I find it helps if you talk about "bodyfat" rather than "being fat". The concept of dropping your percentage of bodyfat seems less threatening than losing a couple of stone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭omgiluvxmas


    he asked you but you'd have to be some **** to actually care if somebody is fat or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭c - 13


    Fat has become a vulgar word, people hear it and immediately get there knickers in a twist regardless of the context it is used in. I mean saying someone has high body fat % (when they obviously do) is not akin to calling someone a fat c*nt in the case the OP mentioned when they were specifically asked about it.

    Its kind of funny that PC-ness has taken a bit of a turn here. Some people have no problem saying to someone else "Jesus your very tall/short etc." but yet wouldnt say "Jesus your fat" even though the first one is a genetic trait and the second is something within the persons ability to change (except for the very minor % that actually do have glandular issues).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    If anyone made an unsolicited negative comment on my appearance, I'd quite simply tell them to fook off. If you want to give someone a compliment, that's fine, however we don't need to have our flaws pointed out to us on a regular basis.
    Having said that, if I asked, I'd expect an honest reply.


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