Serious Crash on Sean Mulvoy Road

KevR

Just had a text from a friend saying there was a 5 car crash on the Sean Mulvoy Road earlier (sometime around 9am). Apparently it was pretty serious. The road is closed off. I heard that a 29 year old man died at the scene but have no online confirmation of that yet. Really tragic, especially in the run up to Christmas.

Here are a couple of links i've found so far:

http://www.galwaynews.ie/5931-garda-close-city-road-after-very-serious-crash

http://www.galwaynews.ie/5930-multi-car-crash-city-centre-dual-carriageway

KevR

RTE have confirmation that one man was killed and another has serious injuries:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1212/rta.html

biko

That sounds serious, hopefully it'll mostly be metal damage.

Just read the rte there, RIP

KevR

The second picture that RTE have shows 2 cars really badly smashed up and on different sides of the carriageway. I wonder did someone come across onto the other side or something?

Das Kitty

It says, 2 Honda Civics and a Meriva (station wagon).

My mind has drawn a conclusion. I hope it's the wrong one.

LadyMayBelle

The guards are looking for info on the cars prior to the accident. Hopefully they'll find out what caused this. Altho it won't be much consolation to the families. What a tradegy and so close to Christmas. RIP. Very sad.

KevR

Just spoke someone I know who works in an office on the Sean Mulvoy Rd. She said that one car went over the traffic island and into a pole at the ESB. The man in this car was the man who died. A man from one of the other cars is seriously injured. 2 people from the other car were taken to hospital but their injuries aren't too serious.

mandysmithers

Das Kitty wrote: »

It says, 2 Honda Civics and a Meriva (station wagon).

My mind has drawn a conclusion. I hope it's the wrong one.

I think I know what that conclusion is, I kind of had the same one.

schween

I was walking into town this morning up the Headford Rd, all I could see were lines and lines of frustrated angry drivers. Poor them, sitting in traffic, and a man dead.

Webbs

schween wrote: »

I was walking into town this morning up the Headford Rd, all I could see were lines and lines of frustrated angry drivers. Poor them, sitting in traffic, and a man dead.

If that was an attempt at sarcasm then was a pretty poor one. the drivers would not know what had happened and assume that it was just another holdup. Am sure they would be as shocked and upset as everyone else and pass on their condolences to all

schween

What I'm saying is people seem to whine to much, things could always be worse.

Das Kitty

A lad here at work says his mother just rang and told him that it was his neighbour and that he was actually 19 and not 29

That's all hearsay though so don't take my word for it.

big b

Went past the scene just after 9am, first Guarda car hadn't long arrived, I think.

Didn't look good at all.

Incidentally, the cars were more or less opposite the main entrance to the petrol station, a good bit up from the ESB & the other side of the road.

Condolensces to the friends & families of those involved.

TerrorFirmer

Yeah he was 19/20, not 29 as stated.

Fozzie Bear

It's terrible news. I am after hearing that a second person has passed away too.
Hate to draw conclusions but speed would seem to be a factor in this on top of the monsoon like conditions. God love them and their families, it's going to be some Christmas in those households. RIP

Wasn't it around this time last year that two people were killed on the Quin bridge in another bad smash.

Sponge Bob

2 Honda Civics . Hmmm .

Mind you I am quite concerned about the occupants of the Meriva



One civic seems OK



That roundabout they seem to have come off is feckin lethal . Too Narrow and too many muppets and never a traffic cop to pull and ticket .

KevR

Whenever I hear of a fatal crash in Galway one of my first thoughts is that I hope I don't know the person who was killed. I know that means somebody else will have to suffer losing someone, and it's aweful, but I can't help hoping that I don't know the person whenever I hear of something like this.

KevR

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

It's terrible news. I am after hearing that a second person has passed away too.
Hate to draw conclusions but speed would seem to be a factor in this on top of the monsoon like conditions. God love them and their families, it's going to be some Christmas in those households. RIP

Wasn't it around this time last year that two people were killed on the Quin bridge in another bad smash.

That's aweful if the second person has passed away.

Yeah I think it was about a year ago when a man was killed on the Quincentenary Bridge.

schween

Jesus the car behind the Meriva in the background is a wreck. RIP

DeadSkin

Sponge Bob wrote: »

2 Honda Civics . Hmmm .

Mind you I am quite concerned about the occupants of the Meriva



One civic seems OK



That roundabout they seem to have come off is feckin lethal . Too Narrow and too many muppets and never a traffic cop to pull and ticket .

2 Honda Civics???? WTF, are all Civic drivers the cause of accidents???

Very sad news

RIP

Fozzie Bear

KevR wrote: »

That's aweful if the second person has passed away.

It would be great if its not true. One of the lads here in work said he heard it on the news. Just shocking stuff so close to xmas too.

Wompa1

Sponge Bob wrote: »

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That roundabout they seem to have come off is feckin lethal . Too Narrow and too many muppets and never a traffic cop to pull and ticket .

Your right about the rounadbout its a joke. The exit to the petrol station is way too near to the rounabout too. If a car comes around the rounabout too fast and somebody was pulling out from the petrol station it could be dangerous

Sponge Bob

The car behind the Meriva ( in the photo) must have come out of the roundabout at some amazing speed to get that far ...is all I will say .

I will say nothing about the black civic at all . The cameras in the Topaz garage it stopped at will do all of that for us

It is high time that a special team of traffic plod did some roundabout enforcement in Galway with hi res cameras and all . I would start on a saturday afternoon at the far end of the Sean Mulvoy road from those photos where the standard of roundabout driving should make the Traffic Corps accounts department very happy at a job well done . They should be able to pull in about €500 an hour in spot fines .

I would then bring the lot of them to court and ask the judge send the lot of them on a special course on roundabouts .

Then I would print their names and addresses in the local papers .

Finally I would print group photos of them receiving their certificates in de-muppeting in the papers the following month .

I would do that every weekend for at least a month . It would have a salutary effect on Galway drivers the stupid ignorant ***** .

Fey!

I feel sorry for anyone involved in this accident, as well as their loved ones.

Are the tyres off the wheels of the black Levin? If they are, it must have gotten one hell of a jolt.

B00MSTICK

Went by on my way to college at about 11.30, pretty sure the black car is a Toyota Levin though, wouldnt be uncommon for them to get it wrong.

Was very hard to see how it/what happened. Reckless driving no doubt.

Terrible altogether.

KevR

Wompa1 wrote: »

Your right about the rounadbout its a joke. The exit to the petrol station is way too near to the rounabout too. If a car comes around the rounabout too fast and somebody was pulling out from the petrol station it could be dangerous

Not only is that roundabout dangerous but I've always said they should have put some sort of a central crash barrier on the Sean Mulvoy and N6 across the City which would stop cars going across onto the other carriageway for a head on collision.

I know the space is not there on the N6 - therefore it would be highly difficult, costly and cause probably the worst traffic disruption the City has ever seen. Barriers should have been included from the start when they first built it.

But the space is there on the Sean Mulvoy due to the concrete traffic island which is a few wide in the middle of the road. It could be easily done here and while it probably wouldn't have prevented the actual crash today, it would have prevented that man's car going across onto the other carriageway and into the pole - quite possibly (although I won't say definitely) saving his life.

If there had of been a central crash barrier on the Bridge for that crash last year, the man who was killed would probably still be alive today in my opinion. Like I already said above, they should have really made the space and put the barriers in from the start when they were builing the N6 from Ballybrit to Westside.

Sponge Bob

I can see what happened which means I cannot see how any of the 3 drivers is entirely blameless

The Traffic Corps in Galway are responsible. They readily swamp areas bagging people at night but they never swamp a roundabout ticketing muppets for being muppets .

I have never heard of a sudden lane changer getting a ticket in Galway, ever , unless they hit someone

Zzippy

Can only imagine someone was doing high speed going up the hill towards the roundabout, I can't see any way you could come off that roundabout at enough speed to cause a major collision. Its too tight to go round it at any speed. Very strange too considering it was during rush hour...

DeadSkin wrote: »

2 Honda Civics???? WTF, are all Civic drivers the cause of accidents???

Well, IIRC Civics are quoted as much higher risk than other cars of similar engine size by insurance companies due to their popularity with boy racers...

KevR

Sponge Bob wrote: »

I have never heard of a sudden lane changer getting a ticket in Galway, ever , unless they hit someone

It annoys me that they will position themselves in an un-marked car on the bend of the Tom Hogan Dual Carriageway aiming a speed gun out the window probably trying to catch anyone going 101kmh. But they won't dream of stopping anyone on the same Dual Carriageway who suddenly changes lanes without indicating or who pulls out of the Tom Hogan service station from a STANDING POSITION without using the slip lane to build up speed.

Zzippy wrote: »

Very strange too considering it was during rush hour...

That struck me aswell. You would think that traffic would have been pretty heavy and therefore it would have be hard to have been going at any sort of high speed in that area. But traffic must not have been too heavy..

foxy_19-89

Das Kitty wrote: »

A lad here at work says his mother just rang and told him that it was his neighbour and that he was actually 19 and not 29

That's all hearsay though so don't take my word for it.

ya he was 19, i knew of him, messed up. RIP

KevR

Just after hearing from a friend that the woman who was seriously injured has now also passed away in hospital.

Such a tragedy.

mandysmithers

Sponge Bob wrote: »

I can see what happened which means I cannot see how any of the 3 drivers is entirely blameless

What happened?

DeadSkin

Zzippy wrote: »

Well, IIRC Civics are quoted as much higher risk than other cars of similar engine size by insurance companies due to their popularity with boy racers...

Yeah, I know that. But what I was responding too was Spongebob jumping to conclusions. Who's to say the Civic on the other side of the road was at fault of the accident, or was an innocent victim in this.

Spongebob, do tell us what happened?

MaxFlower

Passed there at 9.00 this morning and knew something serious was up. Have to say I'm dissappointed regarding the 2 civics?? and the Levin in the photo. I tend to assume the worst when I hear those car types. Could be wrong at the same time. Sympathy to any one involved.

Not really important but that meriva looks more like a marea (fiat) and it looks in a sorry state

Sponge Bob

Look at the photos Mandy , FFS Look at the multiple damage points on the Meriva ( or is that a Marea guys ...it is hard to tell)

Fozzie Bear

KevR wrote: »

That's aweful if the second person has passed away.

Scratch that. Only one person has lost their life thankfully according to Galway bay FM. Apologies for misinformation I had heard that the woman had passed away too.

KevR

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Scratch that. Only one person has lost their life thankfully according to Galway bay FM. Apologies for misinformation I had heard that the woman had passed away too.

Someone texted me saying that the woman passed away aswell. I can't find anything about this on the web and I've replied to the person who texted me asking them where they heard it so i'll know if it's definite or not.

Really hope it's not true though.

DeadSkin

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Look at the photos Mandy , FFS Look at the multiple damage points on the Meriva ( or is that a Marea guys ...it is hard to tell)

Ah yes Sponge Bob, the best bit of exercise ya got today, jumping to conclusions.

galwayguy22

I know the road, I see the pictures, but I can't honestly understand/visualise how it happened.

And at 9am, when there was bound to be many other cars on the road, thus limiting the speed of all three cars.

mandysmithers

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Look at the photos Mandy , FFS Look at the multiple damage points on the Meriva ( or is that a Marea guys ...it is hard to tell)

Well, seeing as the photos aren't aerial photos, and I'm not a car crash investigator, it's difficult to imagine what happened. The cars look fooked to me, I haven't studied the photos closely looking for each and every dent.

skelliser

well a car must have been coming up the hill at speed from the magic roundabout, which in my experience is the norm

mandysmithers

How would that be though, when 2 of them are on the other side of the road (ie. the Statoil side)?

B00MSTICK

galwayguy22 wrote:

I know the road, I see the pictures, but I can't honestly understand/visualise how it happened.

Ditto.

Could've been a break in traffic and just went for it, easy to pick up speed on the roundabout if you already have a bit of momentum.

Sponge Bob

DeadSkin wrote: »

Ah yes Sponge Bob, the best bit of exercise ya got today, jumping to conclusions.

The civic, very tragically , is evidently the car that made it the furthest from the roundabout and by a considerable margin !!

The Marea presented a side profile to whichever of the two cars hit it . It was not rear ended .

....and I am old enough to have driven through "Suicide Cross" before that roundabout ever went in so please :rolleyes: !!

I still blame the Traffic Corps for their pathetic non enforcement of roundabout discipline in Galway . This was, more than anything, an inevitable consequence of pathetic and useless policing and of misuse of very generous Traffic Corps resources .

That is my main conclusion

I am sure that someone will tell me that I am wrong ( citing examples) and that the Traffic Corps is absolutely brilliant and that it targets intelligently in Galway . I promise to be nice to that person if they show up .

I suspect they won't !

Sponge Bob

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Look at the photos Mandy , FFS Look at the multiple damage points on the Meriva ( or is that a Marea guys ...it is hard to tell)

You are posting complete nonsense on here imo. How can you tell what happened from those photos?

Sponge Bob

I can tell that they were all heading generally west from suicide cross ! Nobody was heading east from the Headford Road roundabout .

MaxFlower

The Marea looks like it was flipped - there is a lot of damage on the roof. Thats the only conclusion I'd be willing to jump to.

Kazooie

Don't mean to be insensitive here but does anyone know if the road is open / or will be reopened.

Sponge Bob

The roof was cut off the Marea by the fire brigade, rear left and right .

mandysmithers

So I suppose, one of them pulled out of the Statoil onto Sean Mulvoy Road or something? Maybe the Marea? I still can't see how they'd end up in that position. One of the cars is way down the road (the one that crossed over to the ESB side of the road). I can't account for all of them.