Scuffle at NUIG last night

Wompa1

Was anybody at the alledged scuffle last night that O'Cuiv has had to come out to defend himself regarding? Last week I was in a shop the night of last weeks protest and some students came in and one went on the phone saying 'are you still at the protest?....if the gardai arrest you make sure you record everything'
I really hope there was some beating going on last night!

kayos

Was not there but found this

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2008/1210/breaking9.htm

My guess is the timber that the student was wielding most likely had some "No to Fees" sign stuck on it but he forgot to say that cause saying a piece of timber sounds more like a weapon.

Wompa1

I didn't hear that it was the same crowd that barged into his office. He should of floored the little fecker. The main is a SAINT!!

terrywibbs

O'Cuiv rocks!

toiletduck

kayos wrote: »

My guess is the timber that the student was wielding most likely had some "No to Fees" sign stuck on it but he forgot to say that cause saying a piece of timber sounds more like a weapon.

Doesn't look like it.

http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+069.jpg.html


Do they not have exams?!

biko

Minister for Gaeltacht and Community Affairs Éamon Ó Cuív has defended his actions after he was accused of manhandling a protester in Galway last night.

Mr Ó Cuív and Minister for Education Batt O’Keefe were confronted by protesters at NUI Galway when students attempted to delay access to a university building as the Ministers sought to attend an official funcion.

However, Mr Ó Cuív said he acted in defence of his secretary who had been threatened by an individual who was wielding "a piece of timber" and had to act to defend his secretary and himself.

"I think I was right to defend my secretary. She was very, very upset because one of the protesters had a piece of timber. And it was the second time in a week that she had been intimidated by some of the same students because they forcibly entered my office last week. They occupied my office and there was only female staff there at the time," Mr Ó Cuív said.

The protest was organised in collaboration between the NUI Galway Students’ Union, and the group FEE (Free Education for Everyone) which has recently been established in the University, and was supported by the NUI Galway Labour Youth, Ógra Sinn Féin and Young Greens. Members of Ógra Fianna Fáil and Young Fine Gael also attended.

Pah, he is just making excuses. I like him but he needs to get things straight.

toiletduck wrote: »

Doesn't look like it.
http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+069.jpg.html
Do they not have exams?!

Maybe holding it upside down there? Mind I'd freak out just like "Old Quivver" if that timber guy with glowing eyes advanced on me.

Wompa1

toiletduck wrote: »

Doesn't look like it.

http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+069.jpg.html


Do they not have exams?!

Arggggggggghhhhh..not a looker in the bunch! There could be a sign on the end of that but I'd take his word over the students anyway. Though he obviously sugar coated his story but it still stands he got in some students face...he is a national hero.

TerrorFirmer

Would you look at the cut of some of the lads in that picture....why is it that often, the core of these 'hardcore' protesters look like down and out vagrants? I'm sure they're nice people and all but....anytime I see them flying their 'Free Palestine' flags led by some old fossil down by Atlantic Homecare it looks like a biblical gathering.

biko

It's so rare these days to see this

toiletduck

If O'Cuiv had taken charge of the stick and started dishing out trashings to the assembled student body, it might have reversed the downward spiral of FF in the polls.

Missed opportunity tbh.

Lockstep

toiletduck wrote: »

Do they not have exams?!

yeah, we do.


Repeated text messages and so on were sent to people in FEE although I'm more concerned with my exams that are on.

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Would you look at the cut of some of the lads in that picture....why is it that often, the core of these 'hardcore' protesters look like down and out vagrants? I'm sure they're nice people and all but....anytime I see them flying their 'Free Palestine' flags led by some old fossil down by Atlantic Homecare it looks like a biblical gathering.

ha, I know most of those people.
Fun times.


I'm guessing the Socialists and SWP will be pissy enough that they were left out of the Irish Times article.
Never knew the Young Greens were in the NUIG FEE though.

Wompa1

biko wrote: »

It's so rare these days to see this

Galway could do with a protest like that....antagonise! I think the leftys are too comfortable here.

What was the protest about? Do they not want the engineering building to go ahead?

axiom32

that jacket is going to score high marks in the creative fashion statement course when he hands it up

toiletduck

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Repeated text messages and so on were sent to people in FEE although I'm more concerned with my exams that are on.

I'm guessing that's the anti-fee campaign? Never heard of it.

*Tripper*

Yeah seriously the state of the people in those pictures. Serious idiots, they are protesting about free fee's, which by looking at the cut of most(Anarchy!) of them probably wouldn't apply, surely if one had two or three brain cells they would know its registration fee's that is there main issue. Anyway that sort of crap might get you a bit of publicity but won't by you any respect amongst the public.

Ronan|Raven

Been a while since I saw an Anarchist jacket. God bless his littleself. Shower of twats.

kellyreilly

O'Cuiv should hire a hitman, trace them all down and have them shot !!

wouldn't mess with him again and it couldn't be proved......i've thought this through:eek:

TheInvisibleFie

toiletduck wrote: »

I'm guessing that's the anti-fee campaign? Never heard of it.

The campaign is called Free Education for Everyone (FEE). It's only been organised in the college for the last month but has organised a picket of Frank Fahy when he was meant to come to college; a march to Sean O'Neachtains; occupation of Eamonn O'Cuiv's; and last night.

*Tripper* wrote: »

Yeah seriously the state of the people in those pictures. Serious idiots, they are protesting about free fee's, which by looking at the cut of most(Anarchy!) of them probably wouldn't apply, surely if one had two or three brain cells they would know its registration fee's that is there main issue. Anyway that sort of crap might get you a bit of publicity but won't by you any respect amongst the public.

]It was also about the registration fee increases and the education cuts across the board as well as keeping the free fees.

nycman

Fair play Éamon! He should have gone ape**** on them. Bunch of no good vagrants.


Long live The Cuívinator :L:D

TheInvisibleFie

Long live government ministers grabbing at students.

Wompa1

TheInvisibleFie wrote: »

Long live government ministers grabbing at students.

Here, Here. I prupose a student hunt for Rag Week this year. We can claim we're making citizens arrests and just leave them in a run down old building for a few days

Krieg

I can't wait until im out of college and working so I can immediatly turn around and say "Fecking no good students! Bunch of free load'n ****".

TheInvisibleFie

Wompa1 wrote: »

Here, Here. I prupose a student hunt for Rag Week this year. We can claim we're making citizens arrests and just leave them in a run down old building for a few days

Someone must have already done that - it's called Corrib Village.

civis_liberalis

Careful now...

Sponge Bob

Go be with my days when we hounded P. Flynn At least P never got out of the Merc but ranted out the window instead.

Darragh29

Here's another pic from the protest that does it more justice. That TD made you guys look like pussies! When I was in college, a decent protest had a minister terrified, not putting it back up to you!

You panzies should take a few lessons from the fu*kin pensioners!

lostexpectation

the placard

http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+046.jpg.html

o cuiv did a a derossa

TheInvisibleFie

lostexpectation wrote: »

the placard

http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+046.jpg.html

Moving from the safe territory of 'placard' to the title 'big scary piece of timber'!! What a moment in time that is right there: the movement from a time of innocence to vile aggression aimed at a minister (or not as the case turned out).

TheInvisibleFie

Darragh29 wrote: »

Here's another pic from the protest that does it more justice. That TD made you guys look like pussies! When I was in college, a decent protest had a minister terrified, not putting it back up to you!

You panzies should take a few lessons from the fu*kin pensioners!

So one corner gives out to us for attacking a defenseless woman and the other says we should have been attacking ministers. Wonderful. No one tried to intimidate him and all this talk of a big stick and kicking his secretary is rubbish. The point was to have a peaceful protest but to get the point across that we oppose fees and education cuts.

(Sorry for double post but don't know how to edit my last post and keep the new quote)

witnessmenow

oh lads you've done it now...

You've angered a bunch of students

Lockstep

Ha I was getting phoned by the Irish Daily Star asking me for the contact info for the lad who got into the ruckus with O'Keefe

Robbo

witnessmenow wrote: »

oh lads you've done it now...

You've angered a bunch of students

Ah that place has been on the slide since Thongs -v- Knickers petered out.

Krieg

witnessmenow wrote: »

oh lads you've done it now...

You've angered a bunch of students

Oh dear... They just quoted that post in the context of the quoted thread. **** just got real, Lets keep it up

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Ha I was getting phoned by the Irish Daily Star asking me for the contact info for the lad who got into the ruckus with O'Keefe

Im sure you told them where to go?

Wompa1

witnessmenow wrote: »

oh lads you've done it now...

You've angered a bunch of students

Them there fancy college types picked up on my spelling mistake danggum! Ah well sure I've still got a big cock so I guess I won't lose sleep over it. My personal opinion on the fee's is that the fee's should be increased, not to the full amount..have partially subsidised and also bring in a loan system like alot of other countrys have.

So what if you can't afford to take a year out after the stress of 4 years of college or can't afford to do another 2 or 3 years in college because you think you might have a chance at a better job eventually...welcome to the world ya little bottom feeders! How about you work and earn your travel or further education instead of sucking the tax payers dry.

I have been in the Engineering building alot and I agree that its pretty bad and in need of an upgrade but did the college need to build a 22 million sports hall!?...the hospital across the road is in shambles and the college raised the funds for that crap?..I know ohhh we paid extra yada yada yada. But who there that paid the extra would kick up a fuss if the fees went to something worth while. Imagine how many of the patients in A&E through the year are drunken students anyway!?...anywho screw it what do I know! Let them whinge on their college forum

ZorbaTehZ

How noble they are, cornering a politician and taunting him to the extent that he starts assaulting people - I'd bet half of those bunch are the type that will be back in college next august repeating anyways. Bunch of tosspots.

Whatshisface@Sin wrote:

... just read through it and im disgusted, what the **** do these people know about it? im so tempted to register and spam the whole thing to hell so the thread gets deleated

what a hero.

Nuggles

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

- I'd bet half of those bunch are the type that will be back in college next august repeating anyways. Bunch of tosspots.

They were there because they've nothing to do with their time but act like yobs.

Once they get out of college,start working in Supermacs, they'll hate students too and won't give a **** about fees any more.

TheInvisibleFie

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

How noble they are, cornering a politician and taunting him to the extent that he starts assaulting people - I'd bet half of those bunch are the type that will be back in college next august repeating anyways. Bunch of tosspots.

Why do you assume that the fault was on our part and that O'Cuiv didn't just lash out? No one went out of their way to corner him - they were trying to get to the doors before him to block them.

And I can't vouch for everyone but there is very little chance of me or my friends being around doing repeats. I study, ok I'm taking a break for ten minutes but I've been working all semester, and so do they and we were around on Tuesday.

4zn76tysfajdxp

ZorbaTehZ wrote: »

what a hero.

In all fairness, judging by his spelling that guy needs all the free college he can get.

4zn76tysfajdxp

TheInvisibleFie wrote: »

Why do you assume that the fault was on our part and that O'Cuiv didn't just lash out?

Because you...went to his office brandishing sticks...? Why didn't you just light 'em and call them torches? Did ye drink the lighter fluid? Ah..ye students and ye're drink.






I'm a student btw.

whatshisface

Hi guys, Whatshisface from SIN here

He should of floored the little fecker. The main is a SAINT!!

First of all, it's 'he should have'. That's the kind of thing my education is teaching me. Secondly, why is the man a saint? If I grabbed you and started shaking you I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be calling me a saint.

If O'Cuiv had taken charge of the stick and started dishing out trashings to the assembled student body, it might have reversed the downward spiral of FF in the polls.

Missed opportunity tbh.

Great idea, let's put the incompetent ministers in prison

that jacket is going to score high marks in the creative fashion statement course when he hands it up

Are you really naive enough to think the way a person dresses genuinely reflects their intelligence or personality? I'm sure you have worn some items of clothing in the past that you regret now.

surely if one had two or three brain cells they would know its registration fee's that is there main issue

It's spelled 'their'. Registration fees are only one of the issues, tuition fees are the other. What makes you such an expert on the matter, may I ask?

Shower of twats

In your opinion. I must say you seem very informed on the whole issue, were you there?

Bunch of no good vagrants

How do you know that? Have you ever met any of us? Have you spoken with any of us on the issues at hand? I'd love to debate this with you in person, how about we arrange a debate about the issue in a public forum?

welcome to the world ya little bottom feeders! How about you work and earn your travel or further education instead of sucking the tax payers dry

I have a job thankyou, and the money I earn goes towards paying for simple things such as books I need for university, food to keep me from starving etc. I also pay my taxes.

did the college need to build a 22 million sports hall!?

The sports hall in question was paid for by the students, sir. At the beginning of this year I paid €1122, €900 of which went to the government and the rest went towards the sports hall.

screw it what do I know! Let them whinge on their college forum

I heartily agree, what do you know? We will debate this issue further on our college forum, yes. Thankyou for your contribution.

I'd bet half of those bunch are the type that will be back in college next august repeating anyways. Bunch of tosspots.

How much would you like to bet? I have yet to fail an exam. Why do you make such assumptions about my peers and myself? What is your basis for calling us tosspots? You don't know us, there is no logical reason you can have for being biased against us. When you are better informed, I will be happy to debate this with you again.

They were there because they've nothing to do with their time but act like yobs.

Once they get out of college,start working in Supermacs, they'll hate students too and won't give a **** about fees any more.

I have much better things to do with my time thankyou, but I am not lazy enough to stand by while my very future is threatened. No one acted like 'yobs', it was a peaceful protest as you would know if you had been there. The only violent person was the minister, who, as the pictures show, was not surrounded by students with sticks as he claims. Also, when I finish college I will not be working in supermacs, I will have a rewarding and respected job in the Health Professions. I will still care about fees, as they will affect my children in 20 years time.

As far as I can see everyone who has posted in this forum so far has stereotyped 'students' as hooligans and 'yobs', with no basis for doing so. You simply do not with to see your precious minister presented to you in a bad light, and so you are in denial. You may whine and complain about students as much as you wish, but it will not change how uninformed you are.

Thankyou for reading, yours sincerely, Whatshisface

4zn76tysfajdxp

whatshisface wrote: »

Thankyou for reading, yours sincerely, Whatshisface

There's a space between "thank" and "you." Education my hole.

whatshisface

There's a space between "thank" and "you." Education my hole.

Is that the only response you have? Thanks, you're helping me make my point. If you were in any way informed on this issue you would have had something else to say other than correcting my grammar.

4zn76tysfajdxp

whatshisface wrote: »

Is that the only response you have? Thanks, you're helping me make my point.

No no, you tried being a pedant regarding other people's grammar in your previous post and you fell at the final hurdle with your own mistake. That makes you a hypocrite, you lose.

toiletduck

whatshisface wrote: »

If O'Cuiv had taken charge of the stick and started dishing out trashings to the assembled student body, it might have reversed the downward spiral of FF in the polls.

Missed opportunity tbh.

Great idea, let's put the incompetent ministers in prison

I dunno where you're getting that from. Lumping a student is only punishable by no garlic sauce with a Snackbox, if Eyre Square rules are anything to go by.

Imo anyone who went along to that farce of a protest, while they had exams, don't seem to have college education at the top of their priorities.

TheInvisibleFie

Jaliyah Scruffy Slang wrote: »

Because you...went to his office brandishing sticks...? Why didn't you just light 'em and call them torches? Did ye drink the lighter fluid? Ah..ye students and ye're drink.

What? I think you're mixing up two completely different events. Last Thursday 20 students occupied O'Cuiv's Office. On Tuesday 50 - 70 students protested Batt O'Keefe's visit to the college which O'Cuiv turned up to. When students blocked his entrance to several doors he grabbed a student and shook him. When it came to media attention he came up with a story about his secretary being squashed against the wall, kicked, and someone was brandishing a stick (quite obviously a placard). Not even O'Cuiv said any of the protestors from last Thursday turned up in his office wielding sticks.

toiletduck wrote: »

Imo anyone who went along to that farce of a protest, while they had exams, don't seem to have college education at the top of their priorities.

I do have education on the top of my priorities. I had an exam that day and not another one for another week. No one was stupid enough to do that (or at least no one that I know who was there).

sceptre

toiletduck wrote: »

Doesn't look like it.

http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+069.jpg.html

The odds are good that this is the same "piece of timber"
http://www.sin.nuigalway.ie/gallery2/v/December+08/Fees+protest/Protest+057.jpg.html

witnessmenow wrote: »

oh lads you've done it now...

You've angered a bunch of students

I'm sure the nuclear option of blocking all of NUIG from boards.ie is still available should anyone come on and do anything disrupting.

fuzzsc00ta

sceptre wrote: »

I'm sure the nuclear option of blocking all of NUIG from boards.ie is still available should anyone come on and do anything disrupting.

oh noes!!! :eek: Not everyone in NUIG is a student... Although if boards.ie was blocked the benefit to education would probably be FAR greater than the corporal punishments lashed out by government ministers and clothes shopping grants handed out by councils.

Besides yer manno who's causing all the fuss about being manhandled was from GMIT so it seems. Damn subversives. The NUIG SU has so far ran a very intelligent, creative and peaceful anti-fees campaign that I was really impressed with.

The students who took over O'Cuiv's office and caused the big brew-ha-ha were antagonised by some leftie outfit at Free Education For Everyone . Rossport must be getting boring huh? These lads have set up in colleges all over the country leading THAT kind of protest which resulted in two UCD students getting arrested at a sit-in last October.

When will these cappuccino hippies move out of the house, take a bath and put all their wasted energy into something FAR more useful: a job?

READY&WILLING

Reading all the messages on here gives clear evidence to the fact that Fianna Fail have you eating out of their holes. Are we wrong to protest against government ministers who are attemting to block access to college. I am a 5th year law student, 3 years in arts and now 2 years of the LLB, I have never failed an exam, I am the youngest tutor in the college, teaching first year philosophy students, I have won scholarships for high marks and most importantly - I WAS THERE ON TUESDAY NIGHT, I AM A MEMBER OF FEE, I STAND OUTSIDE ATLANTIC HOMECARE WHEN NEEDED WITH TOMMY TO PROTEST AGAINST THE ISRAELI WAR MACHINE AND I DID NOT USE ANY FORCE AGAINST THESE SO CALLED MINISTERS. The people on this thread seem to be the ones working in supermacs, they are looking jealously over, regretting they made nothing of themselves, while at the same time turning a blind eye to the fact that the government is shafting everyone. How come you are not getting at the pensioners for protesting? The farmers? The teachers? You just like to reinforce stereotypes, I had an exam on Tuesday afternoon, my next one is next wednesday, I had time to protest, not sit in front of a computer all day and hide behind a fake name. And I pay me fees, you only have to come to Tesco at night to see me working away to raise the cash.

Wompa1

Now that that unpleasentness is behind us forever lets continue with out student bashing. They are a very arrogant bunch eh?!? I wonder is it students that are the ones that always pick on grammer and netiquette on forum sites?
I also mentioned that the students paid for that and thanks for calling me sir, you know your place.

4zn76tysfajdxp

READY&WILLING wrote: »

I had an exam on Tuesday afternoon, my next one is next wednesday

Here's a tip for wednesday's exam:

• Paragraphs.

That is all.