Two men forced way into house and raped woman

Tabnabs

TWO WEXFORD men have been convicted by a Central Criminal Court jury of raping a Waterford mother at her home while restraining her with a rope around her neck.

John Connors (25), The Arches, Esmonde Road, Enniscorthy, pleaded not guilty to three charges of raping the victim at her home on August 31st, 2006.

His co-accused, Patrick Moorehouse, also of Esmonde Road, denied a charge of raping the woman on the same occasion.

The jury of seven men and five women took just under four hours on day eight of the trial to unanimously find Connors and Moorehouse guilty of rape.

The jurors acquitted Connors on other charges of rape and anal rape.

Mr Justice George Bermingham registered both Connors and Moorehouse as sex offenders and remanded them in custody to a sentence date next February.

The now 24-year-old woman told prosecuting counsel Thomas Creed SC, during the trial, that the two men forced their way into her home after they called to her door and asked her did she want to buy a camcorder.

Her young child was in the living room when she was pushed into a bedroom and Moorehouse punched her.

She was pushed on to the bed and piece of rope that was on the floor was wrapped around her neck. She said Connors held the rope while Moorehouse raped her and then the men swapped places and Connors raped her.

She said she did not make much noise as she was conscious of her child in the living room, who was unaware of what was happening.

She said the men dressed and left after threatening her not to tell anybody what happened.

During the trial the woman told Mr Creed that she was at home with her toddler in the afternoon when she heard a knock on her front door.

She said there was one large and one smaller man there looking to sell her a camcorder and she told them she was not interested.

The witness said the men left but she heard persistent knocking on the door about 10 or 15 minutes later.

She told her child to stay in the living room and went to answer the door. She said the large man and a different smaller man were at the door and they showed her jewellery and watches.

She said she kept saying she had no money and the large man asked her if she wanted to swap something for the camcorder.

She said she had nothing to swap and he asked if she would swap herself.

The woman said she refused and asked them to go away but the large man pushed her inside and the smaller man closed the front door behind them.

She said she was pushed into a bedroom and when she refused to take her clothes off the large man punched her in the face.

After they left, she gathered her child and went to her boyfriend's house and waited for him to come home from work.

The woman said she did not tell him what happened straight away but later wrote it down and he took her to the Garda station.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2008/1202/1228169325641.html

* These guys were local Irish lads, no immigrants or English involved

* This woman had absolutely no knowledge of these guys, was not connected in any way and have never met them before (hadn't given them any "excuse" to single her out)

* She was in the safety and security of her own home (not walking down a dark street at night)

*These men were adults and not teenagers as young as 13.

*Her kid was in the next room

And we think our society is better/safer/holier/moralistic...

Ciaran500

If we wanted to read depressing news we'd go and look at the news. Why can't AH be a happy place?

dSTAR

Dyflin wrote: »

* These guys were local Irish lads, no immigrants or English involved...

Very loaded statement.

Care to explain?

Xavi6

Dyflin wrote: »

* These guys were local Irish lads, no immigrants or English involved

Ah yes but with a name like 'Connors' involved we can still tie them to a minority group.

uberwolf

irishtimes wrote:

She said she did not make much noise as she was conscious of her child in the living room, who was unaware of what was happening

We'll find some minority to pin it on.

Name like Connors, selling tat door to door. Nope, I'm all out.


Edit: snap.

Mr. Incognito

What's with all the rape threads?

The media don't report on suicides, why don't they do the same for rape cases and respect people's privacy.

Dudess

dSTAR wrote: »

Very loaded statement.

Care to explain?

It's a reference to that other thread about the 14-year-old girl who was gang-raped in England. There are a few "England - what do you expect?" comments there.

dSTAR

Dudess wrote:

It's a reference to that other thread about the 14-year-old girl who was gang-raped in England. There are a few "England - what do you expect?" comments there.

I tend to avoid these threads the same way I ignore jokes of rape or pedophilia which crop up from time to time.

Dave!

dSTAR wrote: »

I tend to avoid these threads the same way I ignore jokes of rape or pedophilia which crop up from time to time.

You're missing out mate

darkdubh

Dave! wrote: »

You're missing out mate

Cor blimey!Luv a duck Guvnor!

Terry

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah yes but with a name like 'Connors' involved we can still tie them to a minority group.

What's that supposed to mean?
People who will fight against the robots in the future?

SoWatchaWant

How about a separate forum for rapes/murders/child beatings? I can't make fun of something like this.

SoWatchaWant

Dyflin wrote: »

And we think our society is better/safer/holier/moralistic...

Oh, come on, it is. Bottom line is, **** happens. Of course, alot less **** happens these days, it's just you're sure to bloody hear about it, thanks to whatever paper that's from.

It wasn't me!

Terry wrote: »

What's that supposed to mean?
People who will fight against the robots in the future?

Beaten to it.

DonJose

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah yes but with a name like 'Connors' involved we can still tie them to a minority group.

Yeah those Tennis players are a pack of scumbags :mad:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Connors

MagicMarker

I'm lost for words tbh.

jaffa20

Not another rape thread. :rolleyes: I didn't even read the story as it's not something i'd take delight in reading or knowing.

Dudess

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

Oh, come on, it is. Bottom line is, **** happens. Of course, alot less **** happens these days, it's just you're sure to bloody hear about it, thanks to whatever paper that's from.

That's the point I think the OP was making. You've got this other thread where people are pontificating about how Ireland has such moral fibre and Britain is gone down the toilet... rather than just considering the fact that some people will be scum.

Not saying there aren't huge social problems in the UK though.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I'm of the opinion people go LOOKING for these stories so that they can post them on AH.

Professey Chin

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I'm of the opinion people go LOOKING for these stories so that they can post them on AH.

*Closes tab with google searching*
No we dont.................

ejmaztec

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I'm of the opinion people go LOOKING for these stories so that they can post them on AH.

Or possibly, "Let's go and do something nasty, so that when we get 20 years for doing it, we'll have the ultimate accolade, a thread on Boards."

arybvtcw0eolkf

Dyflin wrote: »

* These guys were local Irish lads, no immigrants or English involved

Dyflin wrote: »

John Connors (25)

Mr Connors sounds like a well travelled Irish man too :P

Calibos

Mairt wrote: »

Mr Connors sounds like a well travelled Irish man too :P

Moorehouse is not a nationally well travelled name afaik but in my neck of the woulds the surname Moorehouse is very well travelled. The local paper has a different Moorehouse everyweek travelling to the local courthouse. So Connors and Moorehouse are both very well travelled lads.

Of course the fact that they are well travelled really has no baring on it. Its not like well travelled people are well known for a propensity to rape strangers, just for raping their wifes/cousins( NB: both noclementures may apply at the same time)

Could just have easily been a pair of roaming Anto's

4zn76tysfajdxp

Did she get the camcorder?

Latchy

* These guys were local Irish lads, no immigrants or English involved

* This woman had absolutely no knowledge of these guys, was not connected in any way and have never met them before (hadn't given them any "excuse" to single her out)

* She was in the safety and security of her own home (not walking down a dark street at night)

*These men were adults and not teenagers as young as 13.

*Her kid was in the next room

And we think our society is better/safer/holier/moralistic...

There are people on this forum who would seriously like to think such things only happen in England.

magick

A slap on the wrist for them, if past rulings are to go by

arybvtcw0eolkf

latchyco wrote: »

There are people on this forum who would seriously like to think such things only happen in England.

Nope, they happen American prisons too - ask OJ in two months.

Valmont

I think they are travellers.

Latchy

Mairt wrote: »

Nope, they happen American prisons too - ask OJ in two months.

Somehow i cant see two male prisoners raping a female prisoner ........unless they are locked up together

.Actually story in express paper today has a senior female prison officer caught having sex with a convicted rapist so yeah , never say never.

Hope OJ gets what's coming to him and rots away .

arybvtcw0eolkf

Valmont wrote: »

I think they are travellers.

Noooooo

¬¬


:P

AckwelFoley

SoWatchaWant wrote: »

How about a separate forum for rapes/murders/child beatings? I can't make fun of something like this.

There may already be one...

..and then again, there may be not.

Who knows.

Latchy

snyper wrote: »

There may already be one...

..and then again, there may be not.

Who knows.

We could call it the Alcatraz thread ...maybe, assuming there isint one already

AckwelFoley

latchyco wrote: »

We could call it the Alcatraz thread ...maybe, assuming there isint one already

Be confused

Be very confused..

:cool:

galwayrush

Apparently, she would not have been allowed to defend herself under Irish Law. If she shot or stabbed the bastards, she would possibly be going to jail now.

AckwelFoley

galwayrush wrote: »

Apparently, she would not have been allowed to defend herself under Irish Law. If she shot or stabbed the bastards, she would possibly be going to jail now.

No, not fully accurate. Its a rather grey area, but you are entited to defend yourself.


I should know.....





ive been shot more times than 50 cent

RoundyMooney

galwayrush wrote: »

Apparently, she would not have been allowed to defend herself under Irish Law. If she shot or stabbed the bastards, she would possibly be going to jail now.

That's why they get away with it.

"They" being anyone who thumbs their nose at civilised society, be they infighting, tax dodging travellers, sponging Nigerians, or our own home grown ne'er do well scobes-the working class who don't, and whose parents didn't.

Our legal system, or our police force have not the collective, figurative, or legislative balls to take them on and beat them.

Easier to maintain an inequitable welfare state that fails to sufficiently reward the needy, while keeping the bottom feeders who will never contribute anything, least of all well rounded offspring to society, fed watered and housed.

As long as we wring our hands and forget five minutes later until the next outrage, nothing will change.

RoundyMooney

snyper wrote: »

ive been shot more times than 50 cent

That way doesn't count, horse

galwayrush

snyper wrote: »

No, not fully accurate. Its a rather grey area, but you are entited to defend yourself.


I should know.....





ive been shot more times than 50 cent

Hope you shot back:D

Terry

Valmont wrote: »

I think they are travellers.

Why?

latchyco wrote: »

Somehow i cant see two male prisoners raping a female prisoner ........unless they are locked up together

.Actually story in express paper today has a senior female prison officer caught having sex with a convicted rapist so yeah , never say never.

Hope OJ gets what's coming to him and rots away .

Link?

Phototoxin

Originally Posted by SoWatchaWant
How about a separate forum for rapes/murders/child beatings? I can't make fun of something like this.
There may already be one...

..and then again, there may be not.

Who knows.

Yes we WANT one

barnacle

Dyflin wrote: »

no immigrants or English involved

Was it done as gaelige then?

nobodythere

Aryan Shapely Foreigner wrote: »

Did she get the camcorder?

Not cool

inforfun

Aryan Shapely Foreigner wrote: »

Did she get the camcorder?

Turned out there was a brick in the box.

Sharpshooter

Aryan Shapely Foreigner wrote: »

Did she get the camcorder?

grasshopa wrote: »

Not cool

:rolleyes: Humour me here for a second / oh, wait , you can't.

4zn76tysfajdxp

barnacle wrote: »

Was it done as gaelige then?

Yes, they recieved a grant from the government a few weeks ago to fund it.

jhegarty

latchyco wrote: »

There are people on this forum who would seriously like to think such things only happen in England.

Of course not. English people commit crimes while in other countries as well...

PeterLT

Don't know what's the situation in irish jails and how other inmates treat people for that kind of crime, but you wouldn't want to be locked up in easter european jail for that. There is an eye for an eye rule in there... Especially is you raped a child. Criminals being locked for 10 years and being treated there the same way like they treated their victims. Worst case is in Russia. I have heard that irish jails are heaven compared to russians

nobodythere

sharpshooterH wrote: »

:rolleyes: Humour me here for a second / oh, wait , you can't.

Even though this is AH everyone has to draw their own lines. If it was your sister or mother you'd know where to draw it

Sharpshooter

grasshopa wrote: »

Even though this is AH everyone has to draw their own lines. If it was your sister or mother you'd know where to draw it

l do , like you pointed out , this is AHs .
When you know the people that are posting , and they know you ( and you all know where you are coming from) it is hard to take offence.

grasshopa , think it's time you tried Kung Fu.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Xavi6 wrote: »

Ah yes but with a name like 'Connors' involved we can still tie them to a minority group.

I resent that statements... Seriously...

Latchy

Terry wrote: »

Link?

Actually ( my error ) it was a staff nurse at Broadmoor hospital who has being acused .Here's the link from daily mail .

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1092249/Broadmoor-nurse-sex-convicted-rapist-shower.html

jhegarty wrote: »

Of course not. English people commit crimes while in other countries as well...

Why of course they do ,somebody has to .