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14 year old girl gets raped by schoolboy gang

  • 05-12-2008 10:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,258 ✭✭✭


    This is a seriously sick story and makes you question mankind

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7767838.stm


    Girl, 14, raped by schoolboy gang

    Nine schoolboys have been convicted of raping a 14-year-old girl.

    The gang snatched her from the street and took her to a stairwell in a block of flats in Hackney, east London, in April last year, a court heard.

    She was told she should be raped for insulting their leader's girlfriend, and they laughed as they took turns.

    Six boys were found guilty of rape, kidnap and false imprisonment. Three others admitted the same charges. All will be sentenced on Monday.

    Legal anonymity was lifted by Snaresbrook Crown Court on seven of the nine.

    Plight ignored

    O'Neil Denton, 16, Weiled Ibraham, 17, and Yusuf Raymond, 16, admitted the offences.

    The others before the court - Jayden Ryan, 16, Alexander Vanderpuije, 15, Jack Bartle, 16, Cleon Brown, 15, and two aged 14 and 16 who still cannot be named - were convicted by a jury of the same charges.

    Nicola Merrick, prosecuting, said the girl's ordeal began when some of her attackers - aged as young as 13 at the time - snatched her from the street.

    She said although she was "too afraid" to call for help, her obvious plight was ignored by passers-by.

    Ms Merrick said other boys were phoned to join in and they were laughing and shouting encouragement to each other as the girl was raped.

    The victim was so traumatised she later attempted suicide, the prosecution said.

    Applying for anonymity orders to be lifted, Miss Merrick said it was "in the public interest" that the defendants should be named.

    "Those young people who become members of gangs, should know the outcome of this trial, that they will not mete out punishments as a gang with impunity and not ultimately retain their anonymity."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,556 ✭✭✭MizzLolly


    Poor thing :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    This is what the world has come to :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Hmm I can see where this is going.
    Person posts about a serious horrible subject in AH

    AH posters come up with a list of puns.

    OP gets annoyed by people not taking subject serious.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    It's an awful story but I hate when threads like this question 'mankind' or society or whatever you want to call it. Why does the rape make you question mankind? She was raped by 9 adolescent scumbags, not mankind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Jesus, that's miserable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Shocking:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭The guy


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Hmm I can see where this is going.
    Person posts about a serious horrible subject in AH

    AH posters come up with a list of puns.

    OP gets annoyed by people not taking subject serious.

    OP posts disgusting story of depraved act and fifty responses follow saying that's sick.

    That's also how it goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    sick bastards:mad: I hope they get raped in prison


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Hmm I can see where this is going.
    Person posts about a serious horrible subject in AH

    AH posters come up with a list of puns.

    OP gets annoyed by people not taking subject serious.

    I don't know why people post these kind of stories in here. Some idiot will inevitably make the 9 out of 10 joke. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    The guy wrote: »
    OP posts disgusting story of depraved act and fifty responses follow saying that's sick.

    That's also how it goes.

    I'd be pleasantly shocked. Not having a go or anything but this is AH.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭deleriumtremens


    makes me sick to my stomach, utterly horrible:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    This is what the world has come to :(

    I know, the guys in your sig should really have thought twice about what they created.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭xbox36016


    why do paple do this sick sick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Rape is soul destroying for any woman , and the fact that this was a 14 year old girl raped nine times by nine different teenagers will haunt her for the rest of her life.
    l really don't know how she is going to cope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    in b4 keyboard warriors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    England, meh.
    Par for the course tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    OP, may i ask what it will achieve by posting this here. I will not share my disgust because it wont change things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    faceman wrote: »
    It's an awful story but I hate when threads like this question 'mankind' or society or whatever you want to call it. Why does the rape make you question mankind? She was raped by 9 adolescent scumbags, not mankind
    I'd be more disappointed with the bystanders myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    in b4 keyboard warriors.

    Too late.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    Fitting punishment - meet me for a one on six training session, and this is for real. I'd start by breaking six elbows, then six slow knee bars to shatter first six, then the other knee. I might consider smashing the other six elbows then, noth sure what method I'd use, but I have a few in my arsenal.

    Then I'd break for lunch, but leave my son to practice his Judo too - a few collar chokes maybe.

    Next day I'd consider smashing the six fvckers spine, just the lower part. I would't want to risk killing them at this early stage.

    Then I'd get my mate Tony (he's gay and a sadistic bastard) to armed himself with his biggest and nastiest double-end and ruin the six guys intestines.

    Third day, I'd strangle them with my bare hands and while watching their lifes ebb I'd invite them to pray with me for Gods forgiveness, but kill them before prayers end.

    In a final fitting tribute I'd post a photo of them and I in the Nerds pix thread on this forum and you'll all applaud me fine work.

    Amen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Fitting punishment - meet me for a one on six training session, and this is for real. I'd start by breaking six elbows, then six slow knee bars to shatter first six, then the other knee. I might consider smashing the other six elbows then, noth sure what method I'd use, but I have a few in my arsenal.

    Then I'd break for lunch, but leave my son to practice his Judo too - a few collar chokes maybe.

    Next day I'd consider smashing the six fvckers spine, just the lower part. I would't want to risk killing them at this early stage.

    Then I'd get my mate Tony (he's gay and a sadistic bastard) to armed himself with his biggest and nastiest double-end and ruin the six guys intestines.

    Third day, I'd strangle them with my bare hands and while watching their lifes ebb I'd invite them to pray with me for Gods forgiveness, but kill them before prayers end.

    In a final fitting tribute I'd post a photo of them and I in the Nerds pix thread on this forum and you'll all applaud me fine work.

    Amen.

    Sigh. Must we do this every time? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    javaboy wrote: »
    Sigh. Must we do this every time? :(
    Bring back the death sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭Peared


    I read a much more detailed account of this story and it was a lot worse than that piece makes it sound.

    There was a really bad one on here not long ago, something about a bath.

    Anybody seen the film Irreversible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Bring back the death sentence.

    But only bad things happen in England, never here.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    Its really not a surprise that this kinda thing goes on in the UK. No one really gets punished for anything anymore and the place is overrun with 3rd world immigrants and lifelong social welfare dependents. They are really ****ing up their country with stupid social policies and Ireland is right behind them...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Yes to death penalty. These 9 are scum, they are of no use to society which needs protection. They've proven what they are capable of and no amount of pc rehab will make them productive members of society.
    They've done it once and crossed the line from whats right into whats wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    If they brought back the death penalty I would love to be the one to pull the trigger. Shame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Orange69 wrote: »
    Its really not a surprise that this kinda thing goes on in the UK. No one really gets punished for anything anymore and the place is overrun with 3rd world immigrants and lifelong social welfare dependents. They are really ****ing up their country with stupid social policies and Ireland is right behind them...

    Oooh, it's always those pesky immigrants! *shakes fist*

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭Orange69


    Oooh, it's always those pesky immigrants! *shakes fist*

    :rolleyes:

    In after the PC brigade :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    Orange69 wrote: »
    Its really not a surprise that this kinda thing goes on in the UK. No one really gets punished for anything anymore and the place is overrun with 3rd world immigrants and lifelong social welfare dependents. They are really ****ing up their country with stupid social policies and Ireland is right behind them...


    Very true, Sweden is f*cked too.
    http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/muslim_rape_wave_in_sweden/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    When I logged onto boards and saw this thread,I immediately thought myself. . . That happened in England.I was right.

    ~Ireland is one of the few countries which still has a strong moral fibre within its citizens.

    Would bystanders allow a person to be kidnapped on Henry Street without intervening?
    I think not.
    Its a shame the poor moral state in which England and many other states find themselves'.Thank God Ireland isn't anywhere near as bad.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    gurramok wrote: »
    Yes to death penalty. These 9 are scum, they are of no use to society which needs protection. They've proven what they are capable of and no amount of pc rehab will make them productive members of society.
    They've done it once and crossed the line from whats right into whats wrong.

    Ah, but you can never be 100% sure they did it

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    This is what the world has come to :(
    This sh1t's always been going on - it certainly would have been going on during biblical times. Seems pretty old testament to me - female oversteps some mark and gets punished by a load of men.
    The guy wrote: »
    OP posts disgusting story of depraved act and fifty responses follow saying that's sick.

    That's also how it goes.
    Yeah, what's the point in these threads? Everyone's disgusted by it? Wow! You don't say!
    ShooterSF wrote: »
    I'd be pleasantly shocked. Not having a go or anything but this is AH.
    No, in fairness it gets all serious for stuff like this... one troll will come along and say the bitch deserved it or whatever, but generally the serious hat gets put on.
    GA361 wrote: »
    When I logged onto boards and saw this thread,I immediately thought myself. . . That happened in England.I was right.

    ~Ireland is one of the few countries which still has a strong moral fibre within its citizens.
    That's appalling. There's plenty of moral fibre within English society too... yes, there are serious social problems in certain areas but these are not representative of all English people.
    Would bystanders allow a person to be kidnapped on Henry Street without intervening?
    I think not.
    I'm sure it wouldn't be allowed on an English street either...
    Its a shame the poor moral state in which England and many other states find themselves'.Thank God Ireland isn't anywhere near as bad.
    Sh1t like this happens everywhere - because of some messed up people. What the hell has the country got to do with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    England bites the big one imho!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    Dudess wrote: »
    This sh1t's always been going on - it certainly would have been going on during biblical times. Seems pretty old testament to me - female oversteps some mark and gets punished by a load of men.

    Yeah, what's the point in these threads? Everyone's disgusted by it? Wow! You don't say!

    No, in fairness it gets all serious for stuff like this... one troll will come along and say the bitch deserved it or whatever, but generally the serious hat gets put on.

    That's appalling. There's plenty of moral fibre within English society too... yes, there are serious social problems in certain areas but these are not representative of all English people.

    I'm sure it wouldn't be allowed on an English street either...

    Sh1t like this happens everywhere - because of some messed up people. What the hell has the country got to do with it?

    Tsk tsk tsk.I was strictly referring to the country as a whole,not to each indivual.

    And Yes,it is appalling that I was correct:)

    And,she was kidnapped off a street in England and bystanders didn't do anything.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    England bites the big one imho!

    Pretty sure scumbags aren't exclusive to England.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,216 ✭✭✭✭monkeyfudge


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    This is what the world has come to :(

    Yep. That guy who invented rape back in 1998 really has a lot to answer for!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    GA361 wrote: »
    When I logged onto boards and saw this thread,I immediately thought myself. . . That happened in England.I was right.

    ~Ireland is one of the few countries which still has a strong moral fibre within its citizens.

    Would bystanders allow a person to be kidnapped on Henry Street without intervening?
    I think not.
    Its a shame the poor moral state in which England and many other states find themselves'.Thank God Ireland isn't anywhere near as bad.

    We are not far behind.

    Not enough is being done to get rid of drugs, prostitution and alchoal related issues for starters. There should 0 drugs and 0 prostitution in this country. Its a small country. Surely these big drug barons and all their little boys could be taken down if the Gardai got the right Government support/legislation?

    Also, there is no cencorship on Internet sites in this country nor TV. Uk channels are brodcasting in without much cencorship and the Internet is a free for all with young children and teenagers able to access hardcore pornography and other anti social material in a secretive manner. Its only a matter of time before we see horrible crimes like these here unless cencorship of media and Internet is brought in to control the situation. The phone sex lines are also brodcast over all the newspapers for children to ring. Sex shops are open on our door steps also normalising this activity. Why do people think young children and teenagers are turning into rapists? The human mind is very fragile.

    All porn sites could be blocked by providers if proper legislation was brought in. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,255 ✭✭✭anonymous_joe


    Aye, oh for the days of yore before immigrants invented rape. :rolleyes:

    In fairness it's a horrible story, it's the kind of thing that can happen anywhere. It's a tragedy, and hopefully they'll be imprisoned for a long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    ClioV6 wrote: »
    Pretty sure scumbags aren't exclusive to England.
    I dont see any in Ireland. Do you?

    Ireland rulz, England Droolz


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Dudess wrote: »
    This sh1t's always been going on - it certainly would have been going on during biblical times. Seems pretty old testament to me - female oversteps some mark and gets punished by a load of men.

    Yeah, what's the point in these threads? Everyone's disgusted by it? Wow! You don't say!

    No, in fairness it gets all serious for stuff like this... one troll will come along and say the bitch deserved it or whatever, but generally the serious hat gets put on.

    That's appalling. There's plenty of moral fibre within English society too... yes, there are serious social problems in certain areas but these are not representative of all English people.

    I'm sure it wouldn't be allowed on an English street either...

    Sh1t like this happens everywhere - because of some messed up people. What the hell has the country got to do with it?

    Its cool to hate the brits. It makes you edgy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    ... and yet, this crime is like something that would happen in Afghanistan under the Taliban - a religious regime that outlawed any kind of fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    We are not far behind.

    Not enough is being done to get rid of drugs, prostitution and alchoal related issues for starters. There should 0 drugs and 0 prostitution in this country. Its a small country. Surely these big drug barons and all their little boys could be taken down if the Gardai got the right Government support/legislation?

    Also, there is no cencorship on Internet sites in this country nor TV. Uk channels are brodcasting in without much cencorship and the Internet is a free for all with young children and teenagers able to access hardcore pornography and other anti social material in a secretive manner. Its only a matter of time before we see horrible crimes like these here unless cencorship of media and Internet is brought in to control the situation. The phone sex lines are also brodcast over all the newspapers for children to ring. Sex shops are open on our door steps also normalising this activity. Why do people think young children and teenagers are turning into rapists? The human mind is very fragile.

    All porn sites could be blocked by providers if proper legislation was brought in. :(

    Oh dear, oh dear. Let's all turn to God for salvation. It's never to late.

    Good luck in preventing the above. Yes it will get worse and there is nothing you or your God can do to stop it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    Not enough is being done to get rid of drugs, prostitution and alchoal related issues for starters. There should 0 drugs and 0 prostitution in this country. Its a small country. Surely these big drug barons and all their little boys could be taken down if the Gardai got the right Government support/legislation?

    Unfortunately one of the more popular organisations in this country has for years made the consumption of alcohol one of its most important rituals.
    Also, there is no cencorship on Internet sites in this country nor TV.

    That is not true. There is very little censorship on the internet but for Irish based sites there is some. There is most definitely censorship on TV here. Claiming otherwise is nonsense.
    Uk channels are brodcasting in without much cencorship and the Internet is a free for all with young children and teenagers able to access hardcore pornography and other anti social material in a secretive manner.

    That's a fair point but parents need to take responsibility for keeping their children away from the dodgier stuff.
    Sex shops are open on our door steps also normalising this activity.

    Repeat after me: Sex is normal. Sex is normal.

    Imo shutting it away and pretending like it doesn't exist does more damage to people growing up.
    Why do people think young children and teenagers are turning into rapists? The human mind is very fragile.

    There have always been rapists. Even before the internet. I know, shocking but there you go.
    All porn sites could be blocked by providers if proper legislation was brought in. :(

    Boo. I like porn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 609 ✭✭✭GA361


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    We are not far behind.

    Not enough is being done to get rid of drugs, prostitution and alchoal related issues for starters. There should 0 drugs and 0 prostitution in this country. Its a small country. Surely these big drug barons and all their little boys could be taken down if the Gardai got the right Government support/legislation?

    Also, there is no cencorship on Internet sites in this country nor TV. Uk channels are brodcasting in without much cencorship and the Internet is a free for all with young children and teenagers able to access hardcore pornography and other anti social material in a secretive manner. Its only a matter of time before we see horrible crimes like these here unless cencorship of media and Internet is brought in to control the situation. The phone sex lines are also brodcast over all the newspapers for children to ring. Sex shops are open on our door steps also normalising this activity. Why do people think young children and teenagers are turning into rapists? The human mind is very fragile.

    All porn sites could be blocked by providers if proper legislation was brought in. :(


    My God thats shocking.:eek:
    Thank God I live in the mid-lands,away from evils like sex shops and the internet.Phew!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    We are not far behind.

    Not enough is being done to get rid of drugs, prostitution and alchoal related issues for starters. There should 0 drugs and 0 prostitution in this country. Its a small country. Surely these big drug barons and all their little boys could be taken down if the Gardai got the right Government support/legislation?

    Also, there is no cencorship on Internet sites in this country nor TV. Uk channels are brodcasting in without much cencorship and the Internet is a free for all with young children and teenagers able to access hardcore pornography and other anti social material in a secretive manner. Its only a matter of time before we see horrible crimes like these here unless cencorship of media and Internet is brought in to control the situation. The phone sex lines are also brodcast over all the newspapers for children to ring. Sex shops are open on our door steps also normalising this activity. Why do people think young children and teenagers are turning into rapists? The human mind is very fragile.

    All porn sites could be blocked by providers if proper legislation was brought in. :(

    WTF? this thread is about the shocking rape of a 14 year old girl not about censorship of the internet ...

    But I do agree there should be 0 prostitution, those girls should give it out for free ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,524 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    Dudess wrote: »
    This sh1t's always been going on - it certainly would have been going on during biblical times. Seems pretty old testament to me - female oversteps some mark and gets punished by a load of men.
    That's right Dudess, in fact the bible started all of this. In the bible Moses even killed women and took thousands of virgins from cities that he ransacked as his loot/booty. Not to mention when the bible says that their god tells them all to eat poo in Ezekiel 4:12-13. This is where the phrase "eat sh*t" came from.

    Ban the bible, it started this whole palaver.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Gareth37 wrote: »
    All porn sites could be blocked by providers if proper legislation was brought in. :(

    The internet does not work how you think it works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 909 ✭✭✭Gareth37


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    Oh dear, oh dear. Let's all turn to God for salvation. It's never to late.

    Good luck in preventing the above. Yes it will get worse and there is nothing you or your God can do to stop it.

    Technically at the moment everyone from 3 to 103 have access to hardcore pornography free of charge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Donald-Duck


    Gareth37 wrote:
    Lots of crap.

    I think religious images and websites should be blocked. Some religions are very questionable. However it would not be fair to just block some, so we have to blanket ban all religous talk on the internet.

    Show me one country with a population of over 100,000 that has no prostitution, drugs or violence.


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