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O.J. 15 Gets years in Jail

  • 05-12-2008 6:20pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    Delighted to see that O.J. has just gotten 2 minutes ago 15 years in jail.
    Sentenced at 6.17pm Irish time.
    Watching it live O.J. didn't look too happy.


    Counts 1 to 10
    1 1 year
    2 48 months
    3 48 months
    4 120 Months
    5 15 years
    6 15 Years
    7 180 months
    8 180 months
    9 72 months
    10 72 months

    All terms are to run concurrent.
    (He served 64 days so far)
    He's in for 6 years before he can even apply for parole.

    It was great to see the criminal live being sentenced.
    It made me think... why don't we have cameras in our court rooms for most cases?
    I understand that for family cases, this should not be the case but in others shouldn't we actually be allowed to see the criminal more often than not!


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,452 ✭✭✭Time Magazine


    Better late than never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Biggins wrote: »
    Delighted to see that O.J. has just gotten 2 minutes ago xx years in jail.
    Sentenced at 6.17pm Irish time.
    Watching it live O.J. didn't look too happy.


    Counts 1 to 10
    1 1 year
    2 48 months
    3 48 months
    4 120 Months
    5 15 years
    6 15 Years
    7 180 months
    8 180 months
    9 72 months
    10 72 months

    All terms are to run concurrent.
    (He served 64 days so far)

    It was great to see the criminal live being sentenced.
    It made me think... why don't we have cameras in our court rooms for most cases?
    I understand that for family cases, this should not be the case but in others shouldn't we actually be allowed to see the criminal more often than not!

    God no. People don't actually get the whole innocent till proven guilty thing and even if the person (not criminal) was found not guilty people would still assume he did something. Then this innocent person who's case was televised and whose face is now well known would unfairly be treated as a criminal by Joe public.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Good point.

    He was shown live however AFTER he was found guilty.
    Could we not do the same?

    After the convicted criminals that have been found guilty, come back to plead for a lower prison term length, could we then see their guilty faces?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    did he get credit on time served for last time ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Fresh OJ for the inmates.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    About bloody time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Morlar wrote: »
    About bloody time.

    Jeez it only happened last year. How fast do think they can get through cases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Whats the difference between 15 years and 180 months?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    He would have got that sentance for murder in this country.

    He has got his comuppance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    not long enough, but given its something


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Whats the difference between 15 years and 180 months?
    One sounds more that other.

    I just haven't worked out which does yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    Pity he didn't get more.


    Televising high profile cases like this would give people notoriety. Some people crave attention, it might make people go one step further just for the fame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Whats the difference between 15 years and 180 months?

    The spelling?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭nyarlothothep


    15 months has two digits whereas 180 months has 3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Of course there will be the usual appeal by the Lawyers
    of OJ , but surely that would be a waste of time .
    Justice has caught up with him at last and l hope it stays that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Biggins wrote: »
    Good point.

    He was shown live however AFTER he was found guilty.
    Could we not do the same?

    After the convicted criminals that have been found guilty, come back to plead for a lower prison term length, could we then see their guilty faces?
    That could turn out fairly badly if someone won an appeal. They'd be innocent, but people will still have seen there faces on papers proclaiming them to be killers or rapist etc. (just trying to cover myself for when they find the bodies...eh, I mean if they find the bodies...eh, I mean if there were bodies to find...)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    fair rough sentence for what he done. He will be out in a few years . Then he will sell his story to some movie maker and make tonnes of money from it all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    The judge stated quite clearly that she was sentencing him based solely on the fact that everything he did, was premeditated, recorded from phone and camera from start to finish, that he brought guns, he terrorised and kidnapped and knew at later stages (recorded phone calls) that he knew he had to get rid of the gun evidence.

    Possibility of appeal - extremely slim to say the least, by all accounts and independent assessments.
    Can't say I'm not delighted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    seanybiker wrote: »
    fair rough sentence for what he done. He will be out in a few years . Then he will sell his story to some movie maker and make tonnes of money from it all.


    Any money he makes will directly go to the parents and family of the girl he was found guilty of denying her rights of.
    - He escaped the murder charge so the family of the murdered girl brought an independent charge of rights denial - when they won, they were awarded millions. He refused to pay or wouldn't pay so he was chased, sued and lost. Subsequently - ANYTHING - he makes, goes to them till the millions in the fines, are paid off.

    Thats why he even lost his rights to the book he wrote "If I Did It!" and those book rights were given to the murdered girls family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 459 ✭✭b0bsquish


    Goddamnit now I cant say "Free like OJ, did it and got away with it"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Biggins wrote: »
    Any money he makes will directly go to the parents and family of the girl he was found guilty of denying her rights of.
    - He escaped the murder charge so the family of the murdered girl brought an independent charge of rights denial - when they won, they were awarded millions. He refused to pay or wouldn't pay so he was chased, sued and lost. Subsequently - ANYTHING - he makes, goes to them till the millions in the fines, are paid off.

    Thats why he even lost his rights to the book he wrote "If I Did It!" and those book rights were given to the murdered girls family.
    Oh right i didnt know that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Biggins wrote: »
    The judge stated quite clearly that she was sentencing him based solely on the fact that everything he did, was premeditated, recorded from phone and camera from start to finish, that he brought guns, he terrorised and kidnapped and knew at later stages (recorded phone calls) that he knew he had to get rid of the gun evidence.

    Possibility of appeal - extremely slim to say the least, by all accounts and independent assessments.
    Can't say I'm not delighted.

    Before sentencing he told the Judge he " was sorry " and "confused" and admitted he had been stupid.
    Thank God , she saw him as the exact opposite .
    lt most certainly wasn't a confused person that organized all that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    He was always going to go to gaol for something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭shenanigans1982


    lt most certainly wasn't a confused person that organized all that.

    You need to remember this is the same guy that got stuck under a bus and got his afro caught in a doorway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    15 years is a bit harsh for what was essetially an armed robbery, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    obl wrote: »
    15 years is a bit harsh for what was essetially an armed robbery, no?

    Depends how you look at it , l think he got away with murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭shotgun mike


    Now now, he was found not guilty of murder by the most fair and transparent legal system in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    Biggins wrote: »

    It made me think... why don't we have cameras in our court rooms for most cases?
    I understand that for family cases, this should not be the case but in others shouldn't we actually be allowed to see the criminal more often than not!

    It shouldn't be allowed at all, I personally think it's disgraceful. If not for the privacy of the criminal, for the privacy of his/her family. I think its sad and typically American that this would be broadcast for all to see on television, and is a reminder of how nosey and obsessed we all are with everyone elses business. Why not go the whole hog and have Dr Phil as the guest judge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    Now now, he was found not guilty of murder by the most fair and transparent legal system in the world.

    Judge Judy?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    obl wrote: »
    15 years is a bit harsh for what was essetially an armed robbery, no?

    With a group of fellow armed men, threatening others there, kidnapping one - hell NO.

    Besides the non-chargeable aspects of then holing a party for a successful(!) robbery, rubbing and insulting the parents of the girl he denied right to (he killed!), telling them to f**k off when it came to collecting what a previous court had awarded them. He told them also he was going back to playing his golf and told them to sod off repeatedly by phone calls and outside the courts as they were (successfully as it turned out) suing him.

    As for the TV aspect - justice must be seen to be done and not just done behind closed doors.

    Those robbed, raped and murdered, they and their family should get the right to see exposed, those that have been found guilty of such heinous crimes.
    (...but that's just my way of looking at it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    Depends how you look at it , l think he got away with murder.

    Fcuking hell, that case is long over and has nothing to do with the one he has been jailed for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,217 ✭✭✭FX Meister


    Did you see it happen live or did you see it on the news or something?
    Biggins wrote: »
    Delighted to see that O.J. has just gotten 2 minutes ago 15 years in jail.
    Sentenced at 6.17pm Irish time.
    Watching it live O.J. didn't look too happy.


    Counts 1 to 10
    1 1 year
    2 48 months
    3 48 months
    4 120 Months
    5 15 years
    6 15 Years
    7 180 months
    8 180 months
    9 72 months
    10 72 months

    All terms are to run concurrent.
    (He served 64 days so far)
    He's in for 6 years before he can even apply for parole.

    It was great to see the criminal live being sentenced.
    It made me think... why don't we have cameras in our court rooms for most cases?
    I understand that for family cases, this should not be the case but in others shouldn't we actually be allowed to see the criminal more often than not!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    OctavarIan wrote: »
    Fcuking hell, that case is long over and has nothing to do with the one he has been jailed for.

    He was subsequently found guilty in a civil trial. He did get away with murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    FX Meister wrote: »
    Did you see it happen live or did you see it on the news or something?

    It was broadcast live on Sky News


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    OctavarIan wrote: »
    Fcuking hell, that case is long over and has nothing to do with the one he has been jailed for.

    Yeah, nothin'. Right.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    OctavarIan wrote: »
    Fcuking hell, that case is long over and has nothing to do with the one he has been jailed for.

    Actually no. There is a connection.

    The items that O.J. was trying to rob was items that were awarded to the family of the murdered girl - items they were selling in order to gain back some of the money that O.J. refused to give to them.

    O.J. decided he didn't want the family to get either those items or the monetary value of them.
    ...so he armed his gang, strode into a room, locked doors and terrorised stall sellers, kidnapped one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Biggins wrote: »
    It was great to see the criminal live being sentenced.
    It made me think... why don't we have cameras in our court rooms for most cases?
    Because we don't want to turn our justice system into a tasteless circus.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,539 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    OJ exceeds shelf life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    15 years.. hate that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Acid_Violet


    I thought the judge was pretty good, she'd spunk, ripped him apart after he told his X-factor sob story. It still confuses me, and horrifies me, that he was BOTH acquitted and convicted of murdering Brown and Goldman. Such is the US legal system, one could say......


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ...It still confuses me, and horrifies me, that he was BOTH acquitted and convicted of murdering Brown and Goldman. Such is the US legal system, one could say......

    Actually, under European human rights rules, we can do the same. I think there was a case or two of this also in Britain alone if memory serves me right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Acid_Violet


    Biggins wrote: »
    Actually, under European human rights rules, we can do the same. I think there was a case or two of this also in Britain alone if memory serves me right.

    Don't think I expressed myself right, I mean more that a person may be found guilty by a civil trial (which, afaik, bears in this case as much weight as a criminal murder trial) yet not suffer a criminal sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Biggins wrote: »
    Delighted to see that O.J. has just gotten 2 minutes ago 15 years in jail.
    Sentenced at 6.17pm Irish time.
    Watching it live O.J. didn't look too happy.


    Counts 1 to 10
    1 1 year
    2 48 months
    3 48 months
    4 120 Months
    5 15 years
    6 15 Years
    7 180 months
    8 180 months
    9 72 months
    10 72 months

    All terms are to run concurrent.
    (He served 64 days so far)
    He's in for 6 years before he can even apply for parole.

    It was great to see the criminal live being sentenced.
    It made me think... why don't we have cameras in our court rooms for most cases?
    I understand that for family cases, this should not be the case but in others shouldn't we actually be allowed to see the criminal more often than not!

    'if the glove dont fit you must aquit'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Don't think I expressed myself right, I mean more that a person may be found guilty by a civil trial (which, afaik, bears in this case as much weight as a criminal murder trial) yet not suffer a criminal sentence.

    Quite simple. Unlike a criminal case where there can be no reasonable doubt that the defendant is guilty a civil case just needs the evidence to favour the plaintiff. In other words its easier to loose a civil case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Acid_Violet


    Just come across the DNA evidence in the murder case that apparently wasn't strong enough. I know nothing about the law but based on common sense....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson_murder_case#Evidence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭papajimsmooth


    But with O.J in jail who will find the real killer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    Apparently when he couldn't remember where he was the night of the murder, the police told him to concentrate

    /I'll get my hat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    hussey wrote: »
    Apparently when he couldn't remember where he was the night of the murder, the police told him to concentrate

    /I'll get my hat


    You got that off his website WWW forward SLASH forward SLASH...

    Waiting I'm right behind you..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Just come across the DNA evidence in the murder case that apparently wasn't strong enough. I know nothing about the law but based on common sense....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson_murder_case#Evidence


    Wahts de National Dyslexic Association do got wit dis?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭xbox36016


    yesssssss he is going to jeil about time yessss


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