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First Unprotected Sex...

  • 05-12-2008 12:28am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    I have decided I would like to have unprotected sex with my bf...
    I'm 18 years old,we have been together 5 years and sexually active for 2.
    I am currently on the pill(Yasmin) and we have always used condoms,however I would like to try unprotected sex but am worried about the failure rate pill wise. I am off to college soon, we just moved in together and I am definitely not ready for a baby
    How safe is it?Should I just give it a miss until I am older? I would like it to be a nice ahem birthday present for him lol.
    Is there a safer non barrier method such as the injection or the noroplant?
    Thanks for the help.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    I have decided I would like to ahve unprotected sex with my bf...
    I'm 18 years old,we have been together 5 years and sexually active for 2.
    I am currently on the pill(Yasmin) and we have always used condoms,however I would like to try unprotected sex but am worried about the failure rate pill wise. I am off to college soon, we just moved in together and I am definitely not ready for a baby
    How safe is it?Should I just give it a miss until I am older? I would like it to be a nice ahem birthday present for him lol.
    Is there a safer non barrier method such as the injection or the noroplant?
    Thanks for the help.

    This really is a decision only you can make. The pill is highly effective, but not 100%, and only you can decide if you're willing to take the risk on or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    I am definitely not ready for a baby

    based on that remark you already answered your own question!

    no matter what precautions you take there is always a chance of getting pregnant!!! Don't risk it seeing as you are not ready for a baby..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    I was on the pill and taking it correctly and using condoms and got pregnant with my eldest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    I was on the pill and taking it correctly and using condoms and got pregnant with my eldest.
    :O
    Now i'm worried


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    1 in a bajillion chance apprently.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    My sister was on Depo, which is even more effective than the pill, and got pregnant. That's also incredibly rare. But rare does not mean impossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    1 in a bajillion chance apprently.
    Hope i'm not one of those people....yet anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    Sounds like this is a bad idea.....Anyone any ideas how i could spice it up a bit for his birthday....Maybe try something new


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    Sounds like this is a bad idea.....Anyone any ideas how i could spice it up a bit for his birthday....Maybe try something new

    Lingerie?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Just make sure he doesn't have a tight foreskin. If you're his first and he's never done it without condoms it could be agony for the poor lad.

    (I speak from experience here - :()


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Just make sure he doesn't have a tight foreskin. If you're his first and he's never done it without condoms it could be agony for the poor lad.

    (I speak from experience here - :()
    Yoooouuccchhh.
    How would I know if he does or not?It doesn't seem tight.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    PillyPen wrote: »
    Lingerie?
    I'm really cute and innocent looking always thought I looked stupid in anything sexy but sure i'll give it a try


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    I am off to college soon, we just moved in together and I am definitely not ready for a baby

    Like kingtut said, you've answered your own question here. The only surefire way of not getting pregant is abstinence (but where's the fun in that? :)). The next best thing is to take sensible precautions. If a baby's not in your plans but wouldn't be a complete disaster then the pill alone would be fine... but if you are definitely not ready for a baby, then I wouldn't be taking unnecessary risks.
    I would like it to be a nice ahem birthday present for him lol.

    This:
    Thaedydal wrote:
    I was on the pill and taking it correctly and using condoms and got pregnant with my eldest.
    will probably be at the back of your mind if you do go through with it and it might keep you from enjoying it as much as you should.

    Belt and braces as they say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    I'm really cute and innocent looking always thought I looked stupid in anything sexy but sure i'll give it a try

    Aww! I've been told that I'm innocent looking. Believe me, if you come out in a corset and a pair of crotchless panties the last thing yer man is gonna be thinking is "but she's so innocent!" You just have to have the confidence to pull it off. Maybe try it on when he's gone until you feel comfortable enough in it.

    If all else fails, there's always anal. No risk of pregnancy there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    without being too graphic....maybe you could let him try putting his manhood in a new location if you catch my drift......

    be very careful though! if he has never put his manhood inside there before then do it slowly and if you have never tried it before then do it really really slowly and use plenty of lube.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    PillyPen wrote: »
    Aww! I've been told that I'm innocent looking. Believe me, if you come out in a corset and a pair of crotchless panties the last thing yer man is gonna be thinking is "but she's so innocent!" You just have to have the confidence to pull it off. Maybe try it on when he's gone until you feel comfortable enough in it.

    If all else fails, there's always anal. No risk of pregnancy there.
    Good point and I know he has a thing for white stockings....
    Been there,wouldn't be a fan lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    Good point and I know he has a thing for white stockings....
    Been there,wouldn't be a fan lol

    Lol, at least you tried it, props to you for that. White stockings + innocent-looking girl= Naughty Schoolgirl Outfit FTW!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    In my last post I was refering to anal.......same as Pillypen....but be warned there is a risk of pregnancy with anal! It is possible that some cum / precum could dribble from your anus and into your vagina (if he didn't wear a condom). A very slim chance but a chance none the less.

    My advice if you opt for anal, get him to wear a condom, use plenty of lube and ensure that he is far away from your body when he removes the condom (in case of leakage etc).

    One question - Do you have to do something sexual for his birthday? Would he not be happy with a meal? Walk on the beach etc.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    PillyPen wrote: »
    Lol, at least you tried it, props to you for that. White stockings + innocent-looking girl= Naughty Schoolgirl Outfit FTW!!!
    Haha have a feeling he might appreciate that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭HouseHippo


    kingtut wrote: »
    In my last post I was refering to anal.......same as Pillypen....but be warned there is a risk of pregnancy with anal! It is possible that some cum / precum could dribble from your anus and into your vagina (if he didn't wear a condom). A very slim chance but a chance none the less.

    My advice if you opt for anal, get him to wear a condom, use plenty of lube and ensure that he is far away from your body when he removes the condom (in case of leakage etc).

    One question - Do you have to do something sexual for his birthday? Would he not be happy with a meal? Walk on the beach etc.....
    Oh I always do some huge elaborate romantic gesture but since we started going out I I have always givin him a little birthday present.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    Been there,wouldn't be a fan lol

    whoops I guess that is refering to anal.......ignore my post on anal then (except the alternative birthday treat bit)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Regarding his foreskin - You can check how loose it is by seeing how easy it is to pull it over the head of his penis and then pull it back again so that the head of his penis is covered by it..... if it does not pull over easily then he is tight.....which is not necessarily a bad thing....just means it might be sore without a condom as someone suggested. be gentle when pulling his foreskin!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    If you are both clean and you are strict with taking the pill then there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't have unprotected sex. Millions of couples do it across the world. Condoms only add peace of mind, not 100% effective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    If you are both clean and you are strict with taking the pill then there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't have unprotected sex. Millions of couples do it across the world. Condoms only add peace of mind, not 100% effective.


    Yeah, exactly... Of course there are going to be 1 in a million chances, but you take those risks no matter how careful you are, I think. They'll tell you that Depo is 99% effective... Depo plus condoms are 99.9% effective... doesn't matter how careful you are, there'll always be that 0.01% of a chance, and (in my opinion) if you're destined for that 0.01% baby, it's coming, no matter how careful you are.

    So, to contradict all the miracle pregnancy stories - I was having unprotected sex on Depo for 5 years and I didn't get pregnant. And now I've been using Depo/NuvaRing and condoms for six months... and I still haven't got pregnant. There are hundreds of thousands of women all over the world using the Pill effectively... there's no reason why it wouldn't work for you, too.

    And if you're still worried, just don't let him come inside you - which could also be another birthday treat, eh... depending on what he's into :D;)

    BUT... go and get tested for STIs before engaging in unprotected sex, if you haven't already!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    Try it if you like, condoms aren't 100% effective anyway. If you're nervous, you can also ask him to pull out just before his cork pops. And yeah, lingerie is a good idea too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    shellyboo wrote: »
    So, to contradict all the miracle pregnancy stories - I was having unprotected sex on Depo for 5 years and I didn't get pregnant. And now I've been using Depo/NuvaRing and condoms for six months... and I still haven't got pregnant. There are hundreds of thousands of women all over the world using the Pill effectively... there's no reason why it wouldn't work for you, too.

    That doesn't contradict the miracle pregnancy stories though. Of course there are thousands like you who never get pregnant while on the pill but that doesn't deny the existence of people like Thaed who clearly did get pregnant while on the pill and using condoms.
    If you are both clean and you are strict with taking the pill then there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't have unprotected sex. Millions of couples do it across the world. Condoms only add peace of mind, not 100% effective.

    Neither are 100% effective but a little probability might help here. If the chance of a hypothetical condom failing is 3%* and the chance of pregnancy occurring while on some hypothetical pill with sperm present is 1%*, then the chances of getting pregnant falls to 1% x 3%=0.03%**.

    So the effectiveness of hypothetical brand condoms alone would be 97% (3 in 100), the effectiveness of this hypothetical pill would be 99% (1 in 100) but the two together would be 99.97 (3 in 10,000) effective as a contraceptive. So like I said, belt and braces.


    *figure plucked from thin air
    **it isn't quite as simple as that. There are other factors but as a rule of thumb it works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Terodil


    Pulling out before the cork pops... while I appreciate the mental image, the advice itself is about as effective as suggesting to fell a tree with a toothbrush.

    Pulling out does not protect from pregnancy. At all.

    Check pre-cum etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭Koushki


    I think you should go for it. I don't see why not, the pill isnt 100% affective but neither are condoms.

    you just need to be careful, I suggest for the first time not using a condom you have sex within the 5 days just after your period. because ovulation has not started yet, this isn't fool proof but it is much less likely you could get pregnant.

    You'll love it. enjoy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Terodil wrote: »
    Pulling out before the cork pops... while I appreciate the mental image, the advice itself is about as effective as suggesting to fell a tree with a toothbrush.

    Pulling out does not protect from pregnancy. At all.

    Check pre-cum etc.

    In fairness it does reduce the chances somewhat.

    It's definitely not something I'd like to rely on though and establishing some stat for effectiveness would be next to impossible as it would vary depending on so many factors like:
    How strong his swimmers are.
    How much precum there was on a particular occasion.
    Her cycle etc.
    His timing.

    But if she is on the pill but not using condoms then you know, every little helps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    javaboy wrote: »
    That doesn't contradict the miracle pregnancy stories though. Of course there are thousands like you who never get pregnant while on the pill but that doesn't deny the existence of people like Thaed who clearly did get pregnant while on the pill and using condoms.


    Yes, you missed my point though. If you're going to listen to two or three "I got pregnant while on the pill" stories when they are in the vast minority, then nobody would bother with the pill at all. Yes, I realise there's a chance, and that chance is diminished by using the Pill plus condoms... but, like I said, if you are destined for that 3% chance baby, or the 0.01% chance baby, then that baby is coming, whether you wear eight condoms and do it standing on your head at a full moon.

    You can only be so safe - and considering that there are millions of women out there successfully using the pill, I don't think the OP should be put off by stories of these one-in-a-million chance babies, because (and not to sound religious, because I am not) those babies are miracle babies. They are outside the stats. They are a million in one chance, a freak accident, or miracle if you will... and if that's what the universe has in store for you, then that's what's in store. Using the pill on its own is a perfectly reasonable and sensible precaution to take - beyond that, there's not much else you can do.
    Terodil wrote: »
    Pulling out before the cork pops... while I appreciate the mental image, the advice itself is about as effective as suggesting to fell a tree with a toothbrush.

    Pulling out does not protect from pregnancy. At all.

    Check pre-cum etc.

    No, but it reduces the chances, especially if she is on the pill. Sperm is not present in precum in the same concentration that it is in semen. So, pulling out combined with the pill will give you a little more protection, along with added peace of mind - which is pretty much what the condom is doing anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    Terodil wrote: »
    Pulling out before the cork pops... while I appreciate the mental image, the advice itself is about as effective as suggesting to fell a tree with a toothbrush.

    Pulling out does not protect from pregnancy. At all.

    Check pre-cum etc.

    I said "also ask him to pull out..." Wasn't suggesting you don't stop using the pill. And pulling out does somewhat reduce the chaces of getting pregnant, even though it's not by a lot it's more to add piece of mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 BCD


    We've got two kids that were conceived using condoms so I presume that no form of birth control is 100% effective!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Yeah just to add a story to the non-miracle baby stories -myself and my fiancee have been only using the pill and having regular sex for six years & nothing has happened (and hopefully won't) so far. It's a BUTTload better than a rubber, for both of us. I have thought about the snip but it scares me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    HouseHippo wrote: »
    I have decided I would like to have unprotected sex with my bf...
    I'm 18 years old,we have been together 5 years and sexually active for 2.
    I am currently on the pill(Yasmin) and we have always used condoms,however I would like to try unprotected sex but am worried about the failure rate pill wise. I am off to college soon, we just moved in together and I am definitely not ready for a baby
    How safe is it?Should I just give it a miss until I am older? I would like it to be a nice ahem birthday present for him lol.
    Is there a safer non barrier method such as the injection or the noroplant?
    Thanks for the help.

    Hey OP,
    Just my 2 cents..I don't use a condom with my gf, she's on yasmin and takes it perfectly and I don't pull out either cause that's the whole point in not using a condom,well for me it is,we've been doing this for 2 years now and obviously she hasn't gotten pregnant otherwise I wouldn't be posting this :D so as long as you take the pill correctly it should be fine, again if you're destined for that 1 in a bajillion chances of getting pregnant using the pill or condom then as a poster already said it's going to happen anyway but seriously it'll be fine and you'll love it :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Those miracle babies do happen, but with the people I've known it happen to, delve deeper and in quite a few cases it wasn't much of a miracle just really bad luck. The pill not being taken correctly is a standard one. The amount of women I know that are unaware that some medications can lower the effectiveness of the pill. Antibiotics for one. Hell I even know women who've not been informed by their doctor when getting antibiotics. Pill and condom failures? The condom slipped off and he had ejaculated inside and the pill wasn't taken correctly. I do know of women who I would trust completely with taking the pill correctly and knowing their bodies really well and have gotten caught out. It does happen, but it's rare enough.

    Withdrawal as a method is frowned upon simply because there is much that can go wrong. Precum does contain sperm, but in very small amounts and some research suggests they're inactive in precum as it's of a different makeup to ejaculate. If done correctly and consistently, it's can be up to 96% effective. Which isnt far off the cap. The problem is consistency. The man has to urinate between each orgasm to clear the pipes as it were. He has to clean himself to remove any sperm from the oul chap and he has to be very aware about his orgasm and how close he is. If they avoid intercourse at her fertile time(hard if the woman is not running like clockwork) that adds more safety. I know three couples who use it and nothing else and have done so for years. Their lives wouldnt be ruined if a pregnancy occurred so they prefer it. They would be very aware of each others bodies to boot. for inexperienced men/couples I would avoid like the plague. Throw a few pints into the mix and baaaaad plan.

    Throw condoms into that mix as well and the chances go down even further. I have to say that condoms really kill it for me anyway, but they have to be worn. If the woman is on hormonal birth control the chances drop even further.

    A pregnancy happening with those three methods would be really really unlucky and I would suggest calling the child Houdini when he or she is born.

    In my experience of the people I've known the one method I've never heard of a woman gettng pregnant on was the coil. I dunno if that's representative though? The injection or implant I've never heard of a pregnancy either. The nuvaring I can think of 3 and it's not out that long, which would put me off. Then again I'm so paranoid that I've only gone all the way to the end with two women regardless of birth control.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Just to add my own experiences. I've been on the pill for 8 years and have been in two long term relationships; I've never so much as had a scare, pregnancy wise.

    The pill is as, if not more reliable, than other birth control methods, if taken correctly. I would stress the later point. I never took chances if I was on antibiotics or had an upset stomach. I will quite happily continue to use this method of contraception-it works for me and countless other women worldwide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Hey OP,
    Just my 2 cents..I don't use a condom with my gf, she's on yasmin and takes it perfectly and I don't pull out either cause that's the whole point in not using a condom,well for me it is,we've been doing this for 2 years now and obviously she hasn't gotten pregnant otherwise I wouldn't be posting this :D so as long as you take the pill correctly it should be fine, again if you're destined for that 1 in a bajillion chances of getting pregnant using the pill or condom then as a poster already said it's going to happen anyway but seriously it'll be fine and you'll love it :)

    It's a little bit misleading to label the chances of getting pregnant using the pill or a condom alone as 1 in a bajillion. Even a 99% effective pill in conjunction with a 99% effective condom and a 99% effective withdrawal method still leaves you with a 1 in a million chance of getting pregnant. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    javaboy wrote: »
    It's a little bit misleading to label the chances of getting pregnant using the pill or a condom alone as 1 in a bajillion. Even a 99% effective pill in conjunction with a 99% effective condom and a 99% effective withdrawal method still leaves you with a 1 in a million chance of getting pregnant. :)

    yeah but you are really just being pedantic - it can happen in circumstances where a lot has been done to prevent it - but all the ways are fairly good at what they are supposed to do. I find the idea of combining methods with a long term partner to be paranoia inspired, which would certainly lessen my enjoyment of sexual activity. Pick a method, be responsible and knowledgable about it - my girlfriend is uber strict with her pill & if she misses one or is on antibiotics or a few other reasons, we use condoms for a few weeks during and afterwards & then when it's all back on schedule, we can continue as we did before. We're both happy & healthy and have a good love life, and don't work ourselves up about it - just approach it responsibly and you should be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,382 ✭✭✭Motley Crue


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    1 in a bajillion chance apprently.

    bajillion - 14 definitions - A number far greater than the normal amount; a concept, like infinity, rather than a number.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    OK folks there's probably a stats forum somewhere around here, so lets stick to the oul topic. Is being a pedant against the forum charter? Hmmmm. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Those miracle babies do happen, but with the people I've known it happen to, delve deeper and in quite a few cases it wasn't much of a miracle just really bad luck. The pill not being taken correctly is a standard one. The amount of women I know that are unaware that some medications can lower the effectiveness of the pill. Antibiotics for one. Hell I even know women who've not been informed by their doctor when getting antibiotics. Pill and condom failures? The condom slipped off and he had ejaculated inside and the pill wasn't taken correctly. I do know of women who I would trust completely with taking the pill correctly and knowing their bodies really well and have gotten caught out. It does happen, but it's rare enough.

    In my experience of the people I've known the one method I've never heard of a woman gettng pregnant on was the coil. I dunno if that's representative though? The injection or implant I've never heard of a pregnancy either. The nuvaring I can think of 3 and it's not out that long, which would put me off. Then again I'm so paranoid that I've only gone all the way to the end with two women regardless of birth control.

    Yeah... perhaps the best thing for the OP would be to change to Depo, the implant or the coil, because at least with those three you're eliminating the chance element of forgetting to take it or it being affected by medication...

    The thing is, the effectivity of all hormonal contraception is similar percentage-wise, but those percentages are based on typical use - which means taking it correctly every time. It's very easy to "take" the implant, injection or coil correctly - they put it in you, it works - but there's more room for error with the pill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    jim o doom wrote: »
    yeah but you are really just being pedantic - it can happen in circumstances where a lot has been done to prevent it - but all the ways are fairly good at what they are supposed to do. I find the idea of combining methods with a long term partner to be paranoia inspired, which would certainly lessen my enjoyment of sexual activity.

    I disagree. If a a method like Depo is 99.7% effective, that's a 1 in 333 chance of getting pregnant. If you had sex once every Wednesday and Saturday and also played the lotto once every Wednesday and Saturday, statistically you're more likely to get pregnant before you'll get 4 numbers. And I know a lot of people who've hit the 4 numbers. :D

    It may seem like I'm being pedantic but I really don't think combining methods even with a long term partner is paranoid. Reducing the odds of an unplanned pregnancy from 1 in 333 to say 1 in 10,000 just seems sensible to me.

    So to relate back to the OP, it all depends on how 'bad' an unplanned pregnancy would be for you. A long term couple with no major financial worries can comfortably work with 1 in 333, but if you really really can't afford to have a baby, those odds start to look a lot smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Wibbs wrote: »
    OK folks there's probably a stats forum somewhere around here, so lets stick to the oul topic. Is being a pedant against the forum charter? Hmmmm. :D

    Sorry Wibbs. I posted that last one before I saw that. I still think it's relevant but I'll keep the stats to a minimum. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,214 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Wibbs wrote: »
    OK folks there's probably a stats forum somewhere around here, so lets stick to the oul topic. Is being a pedant against the forum charter? Hmmmm. :D

    Does that mean you're not going to approve my post? ;)

    The question of statistics is most definitely on topic. The OP doesn't want to become a parent just yet and there's only one sure fire way of preventing this. Abstention.

    No matter what your method, or combination of methods, your probability of conceiving is never zero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    OP, if you know your cycle, you could try unprotected sex at the best time for you. If you're on the pill, and time it to the correct part of your cycle, then your chances of conceiving are very slim.

    The only issue that may arise is that you will still be worried about it. There is always going to be a chance so if that's in your mind you may be a little uptight and it would make the experience a lot less enjoyable for both of you. So definitely bear that in mind.

    If you decide against it, the lingerie idea is a good one. But, in fairness, us men are not picky when it comes to sex. The fact that he's able to have sex with someone he loves, and that loves him, is a great present in and of itself! Have fun ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    javaboy wrote: »
    Sorry Wibbs. I posted that last one before I saw that. I still think it's relevant but I'll keep the stats to a minimum. :o

    Yeah but where are you actually pulling these stats from is a good question, they are all up in the air with no actual evidence to back them up whatsoever, you seem to be using invented numbers as a mathematical exercise to show differences which are VERY small. More types of contraception = safer.. but the fact is 99% of the people don't conceive with one type of contraception used correctly. Sure you could be in that less than 1% like thaeyd, but as stated it's immensely unlikely.. If the OP is paranoid then you are right - she should stick with what she is doing, or perhaps try an implant - but I feel that level of paranoia & knowing that even with 2 types of contraception you can still conceive - it's even less likely still but there is still "that chance". Personally I find sex with a condom to be half as enjoyable - it's still great, two people connecting in that way, but it's certainly lessened. I guess me and my fiancee are just willing to take that tiny % chance to be closer & have that bit much more fun, but of course the OP may be completely different, as a lot of other posters here also seem to be. Perhaps I am just an idiot :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭monkeytronics


    Wagon wrote: »
    Try it if you like, condoms aren't 100% effective anyway. If you're nervous, you can also ask him to pull out just before his cork pops. And yeah, lingerie is a good idea too.

    Quality assured condoms are 100% effective against STIs present in male and female secretions and against pregnancy providing they are used correctly and consistently and therefore do not break.

    Take the pill, be careful about how you take it making sure to follow the guidelines and use extra precautions when these guidelines are not followed. e.g. late pill taking, use of antibiotics etc... If you do this you are highly unlikely to get pregnant. No one, including science can give 100% assurance against anything.

    You might get hit by lightening tonight (which is a bout the same chance of getting pregnant if taking pill correctly and consistently). Do you worry about getting hit by lightening? I know I don't. So I don;t know or see the need to lose out on enjoyment for a slim chance of something happening.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Quality assured condoms are 100% effective against pregnancy providing they are used correctly and consistently and therefore do not break.

    Eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭LolaLuv


    Quality assured condoms are 100% effective against STIs present in male and female secretions and against pregnancy providing they are used correctly and consistently and therefore do not break.

    Take the pill, be careful about how you take it making sure to follow the guidelines and use extra precautions when these guidelines are not followed. e.g. late pill taking, use of antibiotics etc... If you do this you are highly unlikely to get pregnant. No one, including science can give 100% assurance against anything.

    You might get hit by lightening tonight (which is a bout the same chance of getting pregnant if taking pill correctly and consistently). Do you worry about getting hit by lightening? I know I don't. So I don;t know or see the need to lose out on enjoyment for a slim chance of something happening.

    Since when do people have a 3 in 100 chance of being struck by lightening? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭monkeytronics


    Eh?

    yeah you heard, were people get pregnant after they have used a condom it is always because it wasn;t used correctly.

    i.e. it slipped, came off, broke, was stored in sunlight or in a warm area (e,g. wallet), was used after the expiry date etc...

    or what happens in a lot of cases. The condom was not used from start to finish, i.e. there was some insertion before condom was put on.


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