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Right Lane Hoggers

  • 04-12-2008 10:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭


    We all know that these drivers are the greatest annoyance to forumites on here, but the question is how do you deal with it?

    What do you do when a **** is in the right hand lane infornt of you? 252 votes

    Flash them!
    0% 0 votes
    Undertake them!
    34% 88 votes
    Sit behind them and suffer!
    55% 139 votes
    Anything else...
    9% 25 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Hasn't this been done already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    Random wrote: »
    Hasn't this been done already?

    Yeah to death, but I dont think there is a poll on how people deal with it, just its accepted that it happens all the time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,095 ✭✭✭✭omb0wyn5ehpij9


    I usually just sit behind them and suffer.....but the odd time i might flash them or on a very rare occasion, undertake them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Sit behind or understake.

    Never flash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    If I can, ill undertake them.

    Then as I pass alongside them ill give them a look that will strike fear to their very hearts!!!! :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    suffer.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    <stir>
    I tend to drive a few feet behind them and sit on the horn whilst flashing them. If that doesn't move them then I try a gentle nudge!
    Works every time!
    </stir>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    I leave the indicator on for about 20 seconds and if that doesn't work I flash and if that doesn't work if entirely necessary (i.e if I'm having a bad traffic day) I do the above and beep too.

    Had an all of the above day behind a TT on the M4 in August, he pulled out while I was coming up on a car hogging and wedged himself between us. I flashed and beeped him, but he didn't pass the message on to the guy in front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    I thought it's bad practice to undertake is it not? I hate seeing people do it... (before anyone points the finger at me hogging the right hand lane i do not!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    forumites?

    wha?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭GERMAN ROCKS


    id stick it for awhile but after a few minutes if they still havnt pulled over they will get a good dose of the full lights


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,677 ✭✭✭staker


    Flash em first,then stare em down down in the rear viewer mirror,gesticulate wildly to the left, undertake em, maintain speed alongside with middle finger to the window,increase speed and rejoin outside lane while indicating left and near on swiping their nose off.
    THEN jam on the brakes and cry "COMPO":D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    forumite - 1 definition - A regular at any given Internet message-board system, or "forum"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    forumite - 1 definition - A regular at any given Internet message-board system, or "forum"

    not at THIS one ..what a crap word

    anyhow ..lane hoggers...

    any such driver that manages to block my slowcoach van or my even slower campervan deserves to be at the receiving end of the full lightshow (with sound)

    (neither of these machines can do the motorway speed limit for longer than 5 minutes :o)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    I have to say, these right lane hoggers are becoming a dying breed, thankfully. I see a lot less of of it that I used to. I usually put the indicator on for 10 or so seconds, followed by a quick flash of the beams, followed by a more vigorous flash. If all that fails I undertake as a last resort. I would say that 95% of drivers move out of the way without any 'encouragement'. What really bugs me is the ones that move out of the way as I approach and then move back to the right lane after I pass and move left, despite the fact that both lanes are clear :confused:

    EDIT: A two hour stint on the German Autobahnen would be enough to educate these right lane hoggers. You'll move out of the way (fairly lively) when you see the lights of a car flash you as it approaches at 200+km/h!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Scottie99


    Ram the F**kers..............sorry I wish I could!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    crosstownk wrote: »
    I have to say, these right lane hoggers are becoming a dying breed, thankfully. I see a lot less of of it that I used to.

    I hope you're right. I haven't really seen any improvement myself lately :(

    I gently flash first, then flash more aggressively. I never tailgate, just undertake as a last resort. Most of the indicating / flashing is a waste of time as the typical lane hogger is so ignorant / incompetent that they don't even know you are there and they don't even know they're only supposed to be in the overtaking lane for overtaking

    Only in this country though. I have never felt the need to illegally undertake a lane hogger in any other country in my 22 years of driving


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭randomer


    I had the great experience of seeing a Garda pull over a lane hogger today. I was stuck behind a guy in the port tunnel this morning on my way to work. He was travelling close to the speed limit, but driving parallel to a HGV and not allowing any traffic to pass him.

    I was the second car behind the van. As I got close to the end of the tunnel I saw a police jeep in my rear view mirror. I pulled over to let him pass. The car and the van in front did not.

    When I got to the toll plaza I opened my window and asked the garda to arrest the driver of the van. He smiled and responded "Its already in hand". Just after the plaza he turned on the blue lights and pulled over the van. It made me smile for a couple of hours! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    randomer wrote: »
    I had the great experience of seeing a Garda pull over a lane hogger today. I was stuck behind a guy in the port tunnel this morning on my way to work. He was travelling close to the speed limit, but driving parallel to a HGV and not allowing any traffic to pass him.

    I was the second car behind the van. As I got close to the end of the tunnel I saw a police jeep in my rear view mirror. I pulled over to let him pass. The car and the van in front did not.

    When I got to the toll plaza I opened my window and asked the garda to arrest the driver of the van. He smiled and responded "Its already in hand". Just after the plaza he turned on the blue lights and pulled over the van. It made me smile for a couple of hours! :D

    Noice!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭Zube


    unkel wrote: »
    Only in this country though. I have never felt the need to illegally undertake a lane hogger in any other country in my 22 years of driving

    I never felt the need to do it illegally in the US, because it's legal over there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭randomer


    Scottie99 wrote: »
    Ram the F**kers..............sorry I wish I could!:D

    I heard the government are drafting legislation that if you are driving a hummer you are entitled to ram them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    randomer wrote: »
    I had the great experience of seeing a Garda pull over a lane hogger today. I was stuck behind a guy in the port tunnel this morning on my way to work. He was travelling close to the speed limit, but driving parallel to a HGV and not allowing any traffic to pass him.

    I was the second car behind the van. As I got close to the end of the tunnel I saw a police jeep in my rear view mirror. I pulled over to let him pass. The car and the van in front did not.

    When I got to the toll plaza I opened my window and asked the garda to arrest the driver of the van. He smiled and responded "Its already in hand". Just after the plaza he turned on the blue lights and pulled over the van. It made me smile for a couple of hours! :D

    Baby Jesus just shed a tear of joy:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Zube wrote: »
    I never felt the need to do it illegally in the US, because it's legal over there.

    I've legally undertaken ("keep your lane") in the US and that's the sole reason why I added the word "illegally" to my post ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭tywy


    I was on the M1 the other night, a car full of young lads sitting in the right-hand lane doing 100km/hr in 120km/hr zone. I move out behind them to overtake, sit behind them for a minute or whatever, they don't move into the empty left-hand lane so I give them a flash. They don't move, I give them another couple of flashes, they eventually move very slowly (ie stradling the 2 lanes for while) and then I move back into the left lane when I've overtaken them, out of the over-taking lane and they flash me loads and then leave their full beams on for a good minute.

    If I was sitting in the outside lane and someone had to flash me to overtake I'd be embarassed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    unkel wrote: »

    Only in this country though. I have never felt the need to illegally undertake a lane hogger in any other country in my 22 years of driving

    I concur, emphatically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    Bring on the death penalty for them I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 BDW


    I find High revs work wonders, it's not fuel efficent but it's effective.
    You don't have to be speeding or accelerating dangerously but the sound of the engine near the limiter usually gets people out of the way.

    as far as I know it's not illegal to use the full band of your rev meter as long as your not speeding/dangerously accellerating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    tywy wrote: »
    ... and then I move back into the left lane when I've overtaken them, out of the over-taking lane and they flash me loads and then leave their full beams on for a good minute.

    You should have pressed the button on your dash that drops all the puncture stars from your back bumper, bye bye lads!

    I just sit behind a lane hogger until they eventually move over, which most of the time they do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Undertaking is illegal in Ireland. You may not overtake on the left unless you are in heavy traffic and the traffic in the right hand lane is moving at a slower pace than that in the right.

    If the speed limit for the road I am on is 100km/h and I am in the right hand lane overtaking a string of cars and someone comes up behind me in the right hand lane and flashes / beeps etc then I will not budge! If you need to overtake me then it means that you are exceeding the speed limit...if you were matching my speed or doing less than me then you would never end up passing me.

    My rule of thumb, if you flash at me for any reason other than to let me know there is something up ahead then I will ignore you. Luckily it has been a long time since anyway flashed me while in the right hand lane..

    As for people who do not know how to indicate or who do not bother!!!!! Well that needs another thread......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    kingtut wrote: »

    If the speed limit for the road I am on is 100km/h and I am in the right hand lane overtaking a string of cars and someone comes up behind me in the right hand lane and flashes / beeps etc then I will not budge! If you need to overtake me then it means that you are exceeding the speed limit...if you were matching my speed or doing less than me then you would never end up passing me.

    Its not your job to police the roads though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    51.06% undertake. Surprised?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    kingtut wrote: »
    Undertaking is illegal in Ireland. You may not overtake on the left unless you are in heavy traffic and the traffic in the right hand lane is moving at a slower pace than that in the right.

    If the speed limit for the road I am on is 100km/h and I am in the right hand lane overtaking a string of cars and someone comes up behind me in the right hand lane and flashes / beeps etc then I will not budge! If you need to overtake me then it means that you are exceeding the speed limit...if you were matching my speed or doing less than me then you would never end up passing me.

    My rule of thumb, if you flash at me for any reason other than to let me know there is something up ahead then I will ignore you. Luckily it has been a long time since anyway flashed me while in the right hand lane..

    As for people who do not know how to indicate or who do not bother!!!!! Well that needs another thread......

    Can we get a sarcastic "Thanks" button, just for these special people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    kingtut wrote: »
    Undertaking is illegal in Ireland. You may not overtake on the left unless you are in heavy traffic and the traffic in the right hand lane is moving at a slower pace than that in the right.

    If the speed limit for the road I am on is 100km/h and I am in the right hand lane overtaking a string of cars and someone comes up behind me in the right hand lane and flashes / beeps etc then I will not budge! If you need to overtake me then it means that you are exceeding the speed limit...if you were matching my speed or doing less than me then you would never end up passing me.

    My rule of thumb, if you flash at me for any reason other than to let me know there is something up ahead then I will ignore you. Luckily it has been a long time since anyway flashed me while in the right hand lane..

    As for people who do not know how to indicate or who do not bother!!!!! Well that needs another thread......

    If you are in the right hand lane, and over taking, then fair enough. I think any reasonable driver on here who may or may not be exceeding the 100km/h wouldn't be too bothered once you are overtaking. But as another poster said, it's not your place to police the roads, or to determine what speed I, or anyone else drive's at.

    <TOTALLY UNRELATED> A couple of years ago my uncle was driving from outside Cork to Kells in Meath to get to my grandmother on her deathbed. You can imagine that in those circumstances speed limits were regarded more as speed guidelines, which they were. As he was motoring along the clonmel bypass some idiot travelling along with another car decided to block the road by driving side by side at the speed limit. The uncle rang Clonmel gardai, told them the story, and at the end of the dual carraigeway there were 2 bikes. 1 to escort the uncle, the other to have a 'friendly' word with the drivers of the cars.......... The point i'm making is you never know the circumstances of someone elses need to drive above the posted speed limit, so it's advisable not to get in their way. </totally Unrelated>

    The poll is asking about those who drive in the right hand lane as a matter of course. I'm going to assume from your post that you don't, even though you do mention that people HAVE IN THE PAST flashed you while in the right hand lane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    randomer wrote: »
    I had the great experience of seeing a Garda pull over a lane hogger today. :D

    I had the great experience of being caught by a Garda in Cork who hogs the right hand lane of an empty dual carriageway in an unmarked car and waits for people to undertake him.....and does them for dangerous overtaking!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,158 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I had the great experience of being caught by a Garda in Cork who hogs the right hand lane of an empty dual carriageway in an unmarked car and waits for people to undertake him.....and does them for dangerous overtaking!

    Bring along a camera with you and when you see him video him and report him to the Sergeant and failing that the Garda Ombudsman.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    kingtut wrote: »
    Undertaking is illegal in Ireland. You may not overtake on the left unless you are in heavy traffic and the traffic in the right hand lane is moving at a slower pace than that in the right.

    If the speed limit for the road I am on is 100km/h and I am in the right hand lane overtaking a string of cars and someone comes up behind me in the right hand lane and flashes / beeps etc then I will not budge! If you need to overtake me then it means that you are exceeding the speed limit...if you were matching my speed or doing less than me then you would never end up passing me.

    My rule of thumb, if you flash at me for any reason other than to let me know there is something up ahead then I will ignore you. Luckily it has been a long time since anyway flashed me while in the right hand lane..

    As for people who do not know how to indicate or who do not bother!!!!! Well that needs another thread......


    Does anyone else think he drives a Nissan Micra?... Why do Nissan Micras ALWAYS stay in the fast lane?

    I normally sit in behind a hogger for a few minutes, when they dont get the idea, i usually sit a few inches off their bumper with my fogs on, and failing that they get a nice light display.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Does anyone else think he drives a Nissan Micra?... Why do Nissan Micras ALWAYS stay in the fast lane?
    I don't want to harp on about the 'fast lane' but IMO therein lies part of the problem. Many people think that because they are going 'fast' they should use the right hand lane.
    They fail to realise that dual carriageways & motorways don't have a 'fast' lane but have 'overtaking' lanes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    Does anyone else think he drives a Nissan Micra?... Why do Nissan Micras ALWAYS stay in the fast lane?

    I normally sit in behind a hogger for a few minutes, when they dont get the idea, i usually sit a few inches off their bumper with my fogs on, and failing that they get a nice light display.

    Was stuck behind a micra going up the M1 a few weeks back when the driver done the compulsory pull out to overtake of the articulated lorry which was half a mile ahead, swear to god the woman took 5 minutes to get up to speed in her little banger and by the time she pulled in there was a line of traffic behind her. Wrecks my head when people will not pull in after their overtaking of the car in front of them because a truck is on the horizon.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Whilst it took her ages, in fairness, she had from what you were saying been driving properly by being in the driving lane before overtaking. Presumably, because you don't mention it, she pulled back in afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    OK OK.... Thats just my "term" for it so to speak.

    I dont go around on the N11 in the "fast"/"overtake"/"outside" lane the whole way down. If i have to go by a car, i use it, if i see nothing ahead in either lane, i always pull back in. If i look ahead and see a few cars moving at a slower speed a few hundred metres up the road, i stay out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    Its annoying, im always in the left until i need to overtake someone. If someone is hogging the right hand lane i will just blow past them in the left without needing to change lanes. thats fine on quiet roads but when its busy and im overtaking myself, so in the overtaking lane and someone pulls out in and does not understand that overtaking usually involves going faster than the vehicle you are trying to get past, its very annoying..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    kbannon wrote: »
    Whilst it took her ages, in fairness, she had from what you were saying been driving properly by being in the driving lane before overtaking. Presumably, because you don't mention it, she pulled back in afterwards.

    She done nothing illegal i should have mentioned that she originally pulled out to overtake a car but done the "I HAVE TO GET PAST THIS TRUCK EVEN THOUGH ITS A MILE AHEAD" thing aswell thus holding people up trying to get her banger up to 120kph without falling apart.

    She did eventually pull back in bless her...just thought it was hilarious as i could read her mind at the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Jaysoose


    duplicate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭bigpinkelephant


    kingtut wrote: »
    Undertaking is illegal in Ireland. You may not overtake on the left unless you are in heavy traffic and the traffic in the right hand lane is moving at a slower pace than that in the right.

    If the speed limit for the road I am on is 100km/h and I am in the right hand lane overtaking a string of cars and someone comes up behind me in the right hand lane and flashes / beeps etc then I will not budge! If you need to overtake me then it means that you are exceeding the speed limit...if you were matching my speed or doing less than me then you would never end up passing me.

    My rule of thumb, if you flash at me for any reason other than to let me know there is something up ahead then I will ignore you. Luckily it has been a long time since anyway flashed me while in the right hand lane..

    As for people who do not know how to indicate or who do not bother!!!!! Well that needs another thread......

    You sound extremely ignorant of other drivers. It is not your job to police the roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I'd wait a while then flash.
    If that doesn't work I do a PIT manoeuvre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    You sound extremely ignorant of other drivers. It is not your job to police the roads.

    I am not ignorant. I am not claiming to police the roads, all I am saying is that I am not going to break the speed limit just so that I can get ahead of the stream of traffic on the left when there is someone flashing their lights behind me.

    The only instance where I use the right hand lane is to overtake a stream of slow moving cars in the left hand lane. Once I have passed them I pull back into the left hand lane. Any instance where someone has beeped or flashed at me is when I am driving at the speed limit and cannot move into the left hand lane due to there being cars in the left hand lane! My only option of getting out of there way would be to break the speed limit and pass all of the cars even faster and hence I would be breaking the law.

    So.....if I am overtaking cars while not exceeding the speed limit, what gives anyone the right to beep at me or flash me? I am only in the lane to overtake and that is it.
    Its not your job to police the roads though...

    I do not police the roads. I drive at the legal speed limit and I am not going to break that speed limit for anyone.
    R.O.R wrote: »
    Can we get a sarcastic "Thanks" button, just for these special people?

    what is wrong with driving lawfully? I do not feel the need to flash or beep at people. Anytime I have been 'stuck' behind someone I wait and keep my distance until they pull in or until I can pull into the left hand lane.

    Question to all:

    Why is there no 'sit behind them and wait patiently' option? Why do you deem yourself to be suffering when you are behind someone?? No wonder so many people are killed on our roads!
    Dangerous drivers, last minute maneouvers, alcohol etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭towel401


    kingtut wrote: »

    Question to all:

    Why is there no 'sit behind them and wait patiently' option? Why do you deem yourself to be suffering when you are behind someone?? No wonder so many people are killed on our roads!
    Dangerous drivers, last minute maneouvers, alcohol etc

    because there are a lot of easily agitated, stressed out Dubs around the place who automatically despise anything that gets remotely in the way of their idealised vision of a perfect urban lifestyle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭craichoe


    Actually sitting behind someone in the overtaking lane makes you a bit of a hypocrit as you should only be there when overtaking. You can't as there is someone in the way so you should keep left and stay behind them.

    TBH this makes them look like more of an edjit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    towel401 wrote: »
    because there are a lot of easily agitated, stressed out Dubs around the place who automatically despise anything that gets remotely in the way of their idealised vision of a perfect urban lifestyle.


    Just as well i'm from Wexford then isnt it.

    Its not that people get pissed off because they want to speed - its because of the lack of respect shown by other road users. If you sit in the overtake lane doing 80kmph and there is nothing in the left lane, you shouldn't be out there full stop. If someone comes up behind you, you should move over and let them past. Have the respect and decency to pull over and let them by, or dont, and cause a build up of 5, 6, 7 cars and have someone at the back try to dangerously undertake the whole procession.

    Might seem like a bit OTT but i have seen it happen SO MANY TIMES its not funny anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    kingtut wrote: »
    I do not police the roads. I drive at the legal speed limit and I am not going to break that speed limit for anyone.

    Read my little 'aside' in my post in this thread. you do not have the right to dictate someone elses speed, especially when you do not know the circumstances of their need to be driving on any particular day


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