Is Dyslexia just a myth?

Not trying to insult dyslexic people in here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/sep/07/schools.uk

I just seen a Jack Dee clip on Paramount.. "they tested me for dyslexia.. turns out i was just really dumb".


so i looked it up and well basically, i don't believe there's such a thing as dyslexia. i think there's smart and there's not smart..?



EDIT: I NOW BELIEVE.

Pighead

Yep. Totally made up. Just like hedgehogs.

conceited

google if you believe that ive a bridge to sell ya in iraq bud.:pac:

Red Hand

I bod dob

well, my old boss, was dyslexic, she was also the managing director of one of the most successful travel agents hotel websites in Europe. Hmmm, not that thick me thinks.

admiralofthefleet

i hvaenet teh fgoigset

Pighead

Pighead wrote: »

Yep. Totally made up. Just like hedgehogs.

Oh that made me laugh, thanks for that :pac: :pac:

Acacia

No. Besides there's different types of dyslexia, some people are bad at spelling, some are bad at maths, etc. I think the journalist A.A. Gill who writes for the Sunday Times is dyslexic, AFAIK. It's nothing to do with being smart or not smart.

giggsy664

I dnot thank sydlexic exist

Quazzie

Dyslexia is usually just a mix up of signals so that your brain mixes up 2 letters like d+b or m+n. It can also lead people spell words like they appear e.g dare instead of their etc

Its definitely real

giggsy664

giggsy664 wrote: »

I dnot thank sydlexic exist

you sound like you have a cold

Q2002

Q2002 wrote: »

Dyslexia is usually just a mix up of signals so that your brain mixes up 2 letters like d+b or m+n. It can also lead people spell words like they appear e.g dare instead of their etc

Its definitely real

i actually didn't know that.. and it's obviously not something ya grow out of then?

giggsy664

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you sound like you have a cold

Acually I do...

Quazzie

Some people learn ways to develop around it but it never leaves.

brianthebard

Its real but overdiagnosed, like ADHD or other things. David Leary was on the daily show last week or the week before, talking about how parents are getting their kids diagnosed with mild behavioural problems to help them through school or something. (Damn Yanks!) It can also be down to bad teaching, which is then called dyslexia but in actual fact the child just fell behind and wasn't helped back up.

Terry

Deleted User wrote: »

i actually didn't know that.. and it's obviously not something ya grow out of then?

GTFO.

If you can't understand that, then you just plainly suck donkey balls.

Terry

I believe the moderator in me took liberties in the last post I made in this thread.

The poster in me takes no offence though.

brianthebard

brianthebard wrote: »

Its real but overdiagnosed, like ADHD or other things. David Leary was on the daily show last week or the week before, talking about how parents are getting their kids diagnosed with mild behavioural problems to help them through school or something. (Damn Yanks!) It can also be down to bad teaching, which is then called dyslexia but in actual fact the child just fell behind and wasn't helped back up.

yep - my niece is a little anti christ, so my sister thought she had ADHD - eh, no your child is just a little f*cker

Terry

Terry wrote: »

I believe the moderator in me took liberties in the last post I made in this thread.

The poster in me takes no offence though.

whats the bloody point of being a mod if you can't take liberties!

P.C.

Deleted User wrote: »

Not trying to insult dyslexic people in here

so i looked it up and well basically, i don't believe there's such a thing as dyslexia. i think there's smart and there's not smart..?

And we can all run the mile in under 4 minutes, if we just try a bit harder. :rolleyes:

Terry

Terry wrote: »

GTFO.

If you can't understand that, then you just plainly suck donkey balls.

what do you mean?



someone else replied that dyslexic people develop ways to learn around it..

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

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http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd/Cmabrigde/

Anyway, the only people who read the whole word are teachrs and gits who like to point out speeling errros

Red Hand

Terry wrote: »

I believe the moderator in me...

Stay safe, wear a condom.




Apologies! Couldn't resist.:pac:

implausible

Deleted User wrote: »

someone else replied that dyslexic people develop ways to learn around it..

and your point is? Yes, it exists, yes, people can develop alternative ways around it, they still have it though! Just because you can manage to live with a condition (diabetes for example) doesn't mean you don't have it:rolleyes:

giggsy664

Damn Cambridge scientists are sydlexic damnit!

brianthebard

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yep - my niece is a little anti christ, so my sister thought she had ADHD - eh, no your child is just a little f*cker

I blame the parents.

Bob the Builder

Dyslexia is just thrown at people. It does exist, but is extremely exaggerated.

ADHD, I believe is way too overrated, and if families would put a bit of control on their children, they would have it totally minimized or they'd have it suppressed.

There's a kid in my school that has 'ADHD' who puts schoolbags down the toilets, etc. and it's clear he just needs a good beating, but the principal and teachers all feel sorry for the little shít so he gets away with everything, and is the hardman of his year. I'd love to kick his head in.

javaboy

brianthebard wrote: »

Its real but overdiagnosed, like ADHD or other things. David Leary was on the daily show last week or the week before, talking about how parents are getting their kids diagnosed with mild behavioural problems to help them through school or something. (Damn Yanks!) It can also be down to bad teaching, which is then called dyslexia but in actual fact the child just fell behind and wasn't helped back up.

Yeah it's definitely overdiagnosed like ADHD. Mrs. Javaboy is a teacher and it seems like half the kids have some kind of get out of jail free card.

I'm not denying that dyslexia or ADHD exist, but some parents and doctors are too quick to reach for an acronym to explain their kid's behaviour when sometimes it is as simple as the child being bold or a little stupid. I know a dyslexic guy and this irritates the hell out of him.


P.S. The deliberate spelling mistakes stopped being funny ages ago.

brianthebard

brianthebard wrote: »

I blame the parents.

me too!

deemark

deemark wrote: »

and your point is? Yes, it exists, yes, people can develop alternative ways around it, they still have it though! Just because you can manage to live with a condition (diabetes for example) doesn't mean you don't have it:rolleyes:

you have clearly no idea of context.. re-read thread and you'll see i didn't mean anything near that.

giggsy664

giggsy664 wrote: »

Damn Cambridge scientists are sydlexic damnit!

the first and last letters of the word have to same as original.. only inner letters muddled up.

anonymous_joe

Acacia wrote: »

No. Besides there's different types of dyslexia, some people are bad at spelling, some are bad at maths, etc. I think the journalist A.A. Gill who writes for the Sunday Times is dyslexic, AFAIK. It's nothing to do with being smart or not smart.

Inability to tell when he's being witty and when he's being obnoxiously smug? ^^

I know a couple of people, one in particular who struggled mightily with dyslexia. Not someone who was stupid, but who had to deal with a lot of extra headaches because of it.

Nerin

Yes,i believe it exists.same as dry land,thats not at myth,i've seen it.

Do people really think it doesn't exist?

dry land?

Acacia

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Inability to tell when he's being witty and when he's being obnoxiously smug? ^^

I can never tell around these parts!

javaboy

Deleted User wrote: »

dry land?

Waterworld. The best film ever.

javaboy

javaboy wrote: »

Waterworld. The best film ever.

exactly what I was thinking!!

anonymous_joe

Acacia wrote: »

I can never tell around these parts!

Can anyone? ^^

He's a good writer though... Just an obnoxious snob into the bargain.

I do reckon that dyslexia's probably overreported, but then, I've known some people with relatively severe dyslexia, and it's not that funny.

eth0_

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so i looked it up and well basically, i don't believe there's such a thing as dyslexia. i think there's smart and there's not smart..?

Wow, you're showing a spectacular level of ignorance there.

I have a friend who is dyslexic and he is far from 'not smart', he managed to get a degree in computer applications without using any support services.

kerash

Bob the Builder wrote: »

Dyslexia is just thrown at people. It does exist, but is extremely exaggerated.

ADHD, I believe is way too overrated, and if families would put a bit of control on their children, they would have it totally minimized or they'd have it suppressed.

There's a kid in my school that has 'ADHD' who puts schoolbags down the toilets, etc. and it's clear he just needs a good beating, but the principal and teachers all feel sorry for the little shít so he gets away with everything, and is the hardman of his year. I'd love to kick his head in.

I remember kids in school who had genuine learning difficulties (and obviously very frustrated because of it) - that is exactly how the teacher dealt with it*.
Everyone was equal in those days, some kids were assholes, some kids had learning difficulties, they all got the same beatings encouragement. Good times:rolleyes:

*Didn't help much tbh.

eth0_

eth0_ wrote: »

Wow, you're showing a spectacular level of ignorance there.

I have a friend who is dyslexic and he is far from 'not smart', he managed to get a degree in computer applications without using any support services.

spectacular.. like "firework show" spectacular?

or "dyslexia is never talked about and i don't know much about it" spectacular?

EamonnKeane

brianthebard wrote: »

Its real but overdiagnosed, like ADHD or other things. David Leary was on the daily show last week or the week before, talking about how parents are getting their kids diagnosed with mild behavioural problems to help them through school or something. (Damn Yanks!) It can also be down to bad teaching, which is then called dyslexia but in actual fact the child just fell behind and wasn't helped back up.

Worse is that school psychologists are under pressure to diagnose something: can you imagine reporting:
"There is nothing wrong with David. He is just ignorant and lazy."
"There is nothing wrong with Michael. He is just ignorant and lazy."
"There is nothing wrong with Jessica. She is just ignorant and lazy."
Next time, the school will get someone who will give them fancy words.

Orange69

Im of the opinion that dyslexia is simply a construct of the PC brigade used so that dumb people can feel good about themselves..

You couldn't be going around admitting that some people are just stupid.

Terry

Deleted User wrote: »

Not trying to insult dyslexic people in here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/sep/07/schools.uk

I just seen a Jack Dee clip on Paramount.. "they tested me for dyslexia.. turns out i was just really dumb".


so i looked it up and well basically, i don't believe there's such a thing as dyslexia. i think there's smart and there's not smart..?

Deleted User wrote: »

what do you mean?

I meant to quote your first post.

you cite the guardian and Jack Dee as sources.
That really doesn't add up.

Acacia

anonymous_joe wrote: »

He's a good writer though... Just an obnoxious snob into the bargain.

You mean Gill? Yeah, he's a good writer. Though most people who write for the Sunday Times are obnoxious snobs...except Jeremy Clarkson! :pac:

brianthebard

EamonnKeane wrote: »

Worse is that school psychologists are under pressure to diagnose something: can you imagine reporting:
"There is nothing wrong with David. He is just ignorant and lazy."
"There is nothing wrong with Michael. He is just ignorant and lazy."
"There is nothing wrong with Jessica. She is just ignorant and lazy."
Next time, the school will get someone who will give them fancy words.

There's no such thing as a lazy and ignorant child, only children who aren't getting taught in the way they need.

Orange69

eth0_ wrote: »

Wow, you're showing a spectacular level of ignorance there.

I have a friend who is dyslexic and he is far from 'not smart', he managed to get a degree in computer applications without using any support services.

5 stars for using the term "spectacular level of ignorance" there, it works on so many levels

P.C.

Deleted User wrote: »

i don't believe there's such a thing as dyslexia. i think there's smart and there's not smart..?

Deleted User wrote: »

spectacular.. like "firework show" spectacular?

or "dyslexia is never talked about and i don't know much about it" spectacular?

Spectacular like in - WTF, I will just go and tell people who suffer from a disorder/mental condition that they are stupid.

What do you think?

Do you realy think that it ok to tell people that they are stupid?

I suffer from dyslexia, in that I can not see when words are spelt incorrectly - so do you think it is ok to call me stupid because I can't spell?

javaboy

Orange69 wrote: »

Im of the opinion that dyslexia is simply a construct of the PC brigade used so that dumb people can feel good about themselves..

You couldn't be going around admitting that some people are just stupid.

You're nearly right. Dyslexia (along with ADHD) is real but has been hijacked to a certain extent by dogooders as a way of rebranding some stupid and bold people. It's unfortunate for those who actually are dyslexic because they end up on the receiving end of the cynicism that's developed.

Orange69

brianthebard wrote: »

There's no such thing as a lazy and ignorant child, only children who aren't getting taught in the way they need.

Um, ya there are plenty of lazy ignorant kids out there... I suppose you also believe that scumbags are just "misunderstood"?

javaboy

brianthebard wrote: »

There's no such thing as a lazy and ignorant child, only children who aren't getting taught in the way they need.

I don't know if you're being serious here or just subtly taking the piss out of the dogooder types who have succesfully rebranded stupid.

Of course there are lazy and ignorant kids. Just like there are lazy and ignorant adults. It's not always about a Michelle Pfeiffer or Sydney Poitier coming in and reaching out to them with superdy duper teaching methods. Some kids are just plain lazy.