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Jesus. It's actually happening....

  • 02-12-2008 12:23AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭


    Now this, I gotta see.
    Performmance 2008
    150 over 2 days over 4 stages
    @ Whelans & The Vllage Dec 28th & 29th

    The show will start on Dec 28th with two stages at whelans.
    There will be an all ages day show from 10.30am to 6pm
    and an over 18's night gig from 7pm to 1.30am

    On the 29th we will have the same times, but also two other stages at the
    Village. Which will see over 150 Acts play over the two days.
    http://www.bebo.com/performance2008

    You may remember the discussion a while back that spawned this sticky in the Bands & Muso's forum.

    Who's engineering this gig I wonder, 14yo emo bands and out of tune metal guitar fest. Rappah.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Hey, we'd love to gig with you!
    err I don't know about rules but we're 14...
    Sure thing kids, please empty out your piggy banks and send a cheque to:
    Promoter Dude, 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭Soundman


    Poor Noel and Gerry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭judas101


    the best part is that all the bands have to shift at least 30 tickets before they play.

    30 tickets x 10/15 euro price x 150 bands = lots of dough for <snip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    There will probably be a desparate plea thread the day before as 'Charity gig needs engineer/lighting/security/etc' ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    There will probably be a desparate plea thread the day before as 'Charity gig needs engineer/lighting/security/etc' ;)
    And as 150 bands arrive up to the gig with that "who's bringing the drum kit" look :D
    judas101 wrote:
    the best part is that all the bands have to shift at least 30 tickets before they play.

    30 tickets x 10/15 euro price x 150 bands = lots of dough for dodgy sheister
    I'm sooo in the wrong game :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭unclebill98


    Thats amazing.... Where are they all going fit!!!! while they wait to go on??

    Not including the 30 people each band is bringing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Id guess it's going to be some nightmare - as I said in the original post about this I think a team of hardened professionals with Pro bands wouldn't even attempt such a project - so I can only imagine the carnage that may ensue.

    Might go down to see the fights;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    HAHA Thats going to be bedlam!
    How can you manage 20 bands or so on one stage in a day?
    Soundcheck's going to be fun!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Soundcheck's going to be fun!
    Something like this I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,934 ✭✭✭egan007


    Wow it's the Music Nazi Thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    egan007 wrote: »
    Wow it's the Music Nazi Thread.

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    egan007 wrote: »
    Wow it's the Music Nazi Thread.
    Indeed, welcome fellow brethren.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    I was discussing this in college, with the point that it seems like a bad deal for bands (although they're signing up to it) and a very profitable deal for the promoter (everyone in the discussion seemed to have had a bad experience with him).

    Someone suggested informing revenue of the profits to be had at this gig. Proper order of course, taxes need to be paid on earnings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    come back Adian Walsh all is forgiven...

    I see on the bebo they are still falling over themselves to get to play and pay obviously.

    I really despise these people who leech off people with talent to make their money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    studiorat wrote: »
    I see on the bebo they are still falling over themselves to get to play and pay obviously.
    I really despise these people who leech off people with talent to make their money.

    With talent, but no common sense. How can the bands see that in any way possible as a good deal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    All they see is playing in the village or whealans it appeals to their sense of self-importance. Even 10 bands on a stage during a show is a daft idea, no-one is even going to remember two or three of them even if they are any good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Now if all 150 bands all played at the same time, say 'Smoke on the Water' ..... I'd go to that ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    Quincy Jones is on the phone. He has a charity song he wants them to sing for the occasion...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,323 ✭✭✭Savman


    Quincy Jones is on the phone. He has a charity song he wants them to sing for the occasion...
    Feed The Promoter, Let Him Know It's Christmas Time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    They neglect to inform bands on the website about the whole pay for 30 tickets at €10 a ticket. You get to keep ticket money after 40 tickets.

    How much does it cost to book Whelans+The Village over 2 days and nights?

    In theory, if they get 150 bands then thats €45,000 - Venue Rental.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    They neglect to inform bands on the website about the whole pay for 30 tickets at €10 a ticket. You get to keep ticket money after 40 tickets.

    How much does it cost to book Whelans+The Village over 2 days and nights?

    In theory, if they get 150 bands then thats €45,000 - Venue Rental.

    So the band has to pay 300 euro for what'll be about 15 mins up on stage?
    Jesus....talk about getting done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    bets on the venues closing ateleven and charging in again for the club?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    So the band has to pay 300 euro for what'll be about 15 mins up on stage?
    Jesus....talk about getting done.

    But you get to play to 4 and a half thousand people in Whelan's ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭11811


    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    But you get to play to 4 and a half thousand people in Whelan's ...

    Ah in that case...:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Ah in that case...:pac:

    That's a LOT of acne ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    I'm surprised they haven't wangled a sponsorship deal from clearasil so.

    The income tax thing is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Jammyc


    Played this before....whoa, definitly a no go...never again

    Yer man organisin it..wont say his name, a money guzzler if I ever saw one

    I felt terrible selling tickets, I mean like Hell let anyone play so chances are people are payin like a 10 to see like 4 **** bands and go home, plus whatever it costs to get to/eat in town..


    booernns...


    join me? Cmon, everbody! BOOERRNNNSS!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    Boo-urns!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    jaysus i thought the 'pay to play' thing died years ago. clearly not.

    booo-urrrns.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    pay to play is one thing. This is "rape to play."

    On the subject of pay to play. I don't understand the attitude about it.
    A band refuses to "pay to play", but venues aren't paying bands to play either (except "The Mezz" as far as I know).
    A venue still needs to be rented to have a gig, advertising needs to be arranging and backline too.

    Someone's got to pay for this. I've put on a few gigs and in those cases it was me paying. If the gigs had bombed that was me out money, and no one would have compensated me. If money was made, it wouldn't have been an awful lot.

    I suppose i'm saying the band is gonna "pay to play" to arrange a gig and all that it entails. If someone else is doing it for them, then they're providing a service and people who provide a service are usuallly paid to do so.

    I don't have an axe to grind, and I in no way agree with this performance 08 gig either.
    What exactly do bands think "pay to play" means?


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