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  • #62
    djtechnics1210
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    Bond-007 wrote: »
    I would be bugging the super to appeal.

    As would the majority of members but as you well know you'd probably end up bugging the super's door, as he would probably be bugging the chief state/DPP's door too and getting no joy.
    Iv seen loads of cases where the offender with mountains of previous convictions/seriousness of case etc, gets off very lightly when they should have got a good stretch, and no appeal from state. typical :rolleyes:


  • #63
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    deadwood wrote: »
    Fixed Charge Penalty = Fine on the Spot.

    Fine on the Spot is really only a figure of speech here.

    A misleading figure of speech though, as it is not really on the spot. You might as well say that's an on the spot summons.


  • #64
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    djtechnics1210 wrote: »
    As would the majority of members but as you well know you'd probably end up bugging the super's door, as he would probably be bugging the chief state/DPP's door too and getting no joy.
    Iv seen loads of cases where the offender with mountains of previous convictions/seriousness of case etc, gets off very lightly when they should have got a good stretch, and no appeal from state. typical :rolleyes:

    Usually the state have no right of appeal. Other than on a case stated point of law (which is without prejudice), the DPP can only appeal if an unduly lenient sentence is passed in Circuit or Central Criminal Court.


  • #65
    djtechnics1210
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Usually the state have no right of appeal. Other than on a case stated point of law (which is without prejudice), the DPP can only appeal if an unduly lenient sentence is passed in Circuit or Central Criminal Court.

    Fully aware of reasons for appeal.. and i can state hand on heart that in serious cases i have had where lenient sentences have been passed, i might aswell have spoken to the wall, as i got no satisfaction from DPP or state when i forwarded grounds for appeal. DPP don't want to know as they are happy once they get conviction.


  • #66
    metman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭metman


    djtechnics1210 wrote: »
    DPP don't want to know as they are happy once they get conviction.

    It's all about clear-ups mate. Stats. That's the name of the game.


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  • #67
    djtechnics1210
    Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭djtechnics1210


    metman wrote: »
    It's all about clear-ups mate. Stats. That's the name of the game.

    You couldn't have said it any better Metman. State are happy because at the end of the day a conviction is a conviction no matter what happens.


  • #68
    deadwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭deadwood


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    A misleading figure of speech though, as it is not really on the spot. You might as well say that's an on the spot summons.
    Well sooOORRRRY!
    I didn't make i up!


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