Salvia

nannou4

Do you think Salvia should be made Illegal?

Because personally i think it is stronger than Mushrooms and Acid but the way that its stronger makes you unable to jump out a window , and its shorter so by the time you get that idea itl be worn off ,

does anyone enjoy this legal pyschadelic?

admiralofthefleet

no thanks im happy with my guinness and indian food

dSTAR

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

no thanks im happy with my guinness and indian food

Ya give me a pint of the black stuff (hard to find decent pints here tho) and some Indian food and I am as happy as a pig in sh!t.

Did the whole substance thing when I was younger but have responsibilities now so that is out the window so speak

Wishbone Ash

What has this got to do with the Dublin City Forum! :rolleyes:

Moved to AH.

Sharpshooter

Pass..

Senna

had to google Salvia just to see what it was, wish i hadn't bothered:rolleyes:

LEIN

Rather stick to an ice cold Heineken my self.

Ass

Salvia makes you a cabbage for a few minutes. You can't do anything on Salvia. It's ****. There's no reason to make it illegal though. I'd imagine it's not that popular with that many people. Most people buy it, try it, don't like it, and don't ever do it again. Who was the last person you heard of who does Salvia on a regular basis?

Dennis the Stone

Mushrooms will do me. Salvia is scary. I took it once and the next day I was out voting Fianna Fáil

Holsten

NO, NO, NO, NO!

No freakin way.

We need to legalize stuff, not make even more fun stuff illegal!

elsi

i smoked a big bowl of 40x extract in the toilets at work before my christmas party last year, i nearly raped my boss and got a verbal & a written warning as a result.
i wouldnt ban it cos of that though.

and theres not way its stronger than trips, OP i suspect you've just used a load of "drugs" buzz words and may in fact be a tabloid journalist, too lazy to do propper research.
either that or a troll.
which is it~?

generalmiaow

It's hardly a major threat to society is it? What they really ought to ban is that thing where you hyperventilate for a minute and then your friend grabs you from behind. That's powerful stuff right there.

As for your other question OP, I think plenty of people have smoked it, but "enjoying" it is a different matter...

starn

Ive never heard of ANYONE enjoying Salvia

Terry

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

What has this got to do with the Dublin City Forum! :rolleyes:

Moved to AH.

I slap you.

I slap you again.

/dances.

Irlbo

Anyone who smokes that sh*t deserves a stern dig,stupidity why cant you just drink a pint

Dragan

nannou4 wrote: »

does anyone enjoy this legal pyschadelic?

No.

Nobody.

Well, nobody of any consequence.

MIN2511

wtf is Salvia? I thought you were talking about Saliva

Dragan

MIN2511 wrote: »

wtf is Salvia?

It takes roughly less effort to type that into Google.

The ability to self educate is a wonderful gift.

Prof.Badass

starn wrote: »

Ive never heard of ANYONE enjoying Salvia

I enjoyed it the first time. I was in a park and i walked around and stuff. I didn't have "fun", but it was an interesting experience that i'm glad i had.

btw. it's not a psychedelic. it's a hallucinogen, big difference. if it was a psychedelic way more people would do it.

It's not really the type of thing you do regularly. It's more like something you do maybe a few times and then move on, simply because you've gotten all you can get out of it. It's not recreational in the slightest.

btw, i think there are some internet saddos who do it regularly.

biko

MIN2511 wrote: »

wtf is Salvia? I thought you were talking about Saliva

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=what+is+salvia

MIN2511

Dragan wrote: »

It takes roughly less effort to type that into Google.

The ability to self educate is a wonderful gift.

Hehehehhe.... I did after i posted that

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Nah, not into non natural drugs. Regardless of what is in it, it looks like there are an arse loads of chemicles in it. Pills, powder, liquid (apart from alcohol) is not in my "I like" list. Bit of homegrown or a few pints, fair enough.

Limerick Dude

First time i tried it was pretty fun. Couldnt stop laughing for about 10 minutes, proper case of the giggles.

Second time i tried it, i thought i was a tetris piece and i was about to be crushed by other tetris pieces.

Third time i just got a really bad headache and felt sick.

Probably wont do it again for a long time !

Snowie

starn wrote: »

Ive never heard of ANYONE enjoying Salvia

your not supost toits spritual inlightenment and growthafter that it gets a bit misty wouldnt try it . not going to try it,

humanji

If it's made illegal, how will I keep my mouth moist?

Tar.Aldarion

It's great stuff. Thought my friends were a couch, mountain, boots and quazmodiar.

junior_apollo

MIN2511 wrote: »

wtf is Salvia? I thought you were talking about Saliva

I just assumed someone was posting on saliva and misspelled it... disappointed now... was 'drooling' with anticipation... :pac:

*gets coat...*

AnonoBoy

elsi wrote: »

i smoked a big bowl of 40x extract in the toilets at work before my christmas party last year, i nearly raped my boss and got a verbal & a written warning as a result.

It's not a party drug. Why would you take it at a party? Especially a work party????

Never taken it myself - don't have the interest. My grip on reality is slim enough at the best of times I don't need anything to loosen it any further.

ScumLord

I'm convinced anyone who thinks that's a good drug just doesn't know drugs at all. It's ****e! About a minute of feeling weird and that's it, pure muck.

Dragan

AnonoBoy wrote: »

It's not a party drug. Why would you take it at a party? Especially a work party????

Because some people have **** all idea as to when and where to take various things.

Pighead

Limerick Dude wrote: »

First time i tried it was pretty fun. Couldnt stop laughing for about 10 minutes, proper case of the giggles.

Second time i tried it, i thought i was a tetris piece and i was about to be crushed by other tetris pieces.

Third time i just got a really bad headache and felt sick.

Probably wont do it again for a long time !

Reminds Pighead of the lyrics to Something for the weekend by the Super Furry Animals. God love those stoner goons!

http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/super_furry_animals_lyrics_4743/songbook_vol_i_lyrics_15789/something_for_the_weekend_lyrics_182876.html

Big Knox

elsi wrote: »

i smoked a big bowl of 40x extract in the toilets at work before my christmas party last year, i nearly raped my boss and got a verbal & a written warning as a result.
i wouldnt ban it cos of that though.

and theres not way its stronger than trips, OP i suspect you've just used a load of "drugs" buzz words and may in fact be a tabloid journalist, too lazy to do propper research.
either that or a troll.
which is it~?

It's IMMENSLY stronger then trips / mushrooms if done the correct way. It's not even comparable.

For instance if you did infact smoke 40x extract properly you wouldn't have been able to leave the toilet or be in any way coherant for the next 10 minutes.

Big Knox

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm convinced anyone who thinks that's a good drug just doesn't know drugs at all. It's ****e! About a minute of feeling weird and that's it, pure muck.

That's the most Ironic statement I've read in a long time, seriously stick to your weed and class A's you'll be better off. :rolleyes:

ghostdancer

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm convinced anyone who thinks that's a good drug just doesn't know drugs at all. It's ****e! About a minute of feeling weird and that's it, pure muck.

if you think it only last for a minute and all you feel is "weird" then you obviously didn't take it right.


the amount of people who put it in a joint or burn it with a ****ty normal lighter and then says it does nothing, makes me wonder if they even knew what they were supposed to do in the first place....

JC 2K3

Melissa Ambitious Crater wrote: »

Nah, not into non natural drugs. Regardless of what is in it, it looks like there are an arse loads of chemicles in it. Pills, powder, liquid (apart from alcohol) is not in my "I like" list. Bit of homegrown or a few pints, fair enough.

Eh... Salvia is a plant...

marelz2

What's natural that's should be legal!:)

ScumLord

ghostdancer wrote: »

if you think it only last for a minute and all you feel is "weird" then you obviously didn't take it right.


the amount of people who put it in a joint or burn it with a ****ty normal lighter and then says it does nothing, makes me wonder if they even knew what they were supposed to do in the first place....

What kind of fancy lighter am I supposed to use? I put it in a bong and it was ****e.

galwaybabe

I tried it once and spent the entire time wondering if I would get my sanity back afterwards. Horrible stuff

Tigger

ScumLord wrote: »

What kind of fancy lighter am I supposed to use? I put it in a bong and it was ****e.

one that uses crack for fuel

Tigger

biko wrote: »

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=what+is+salvia

im happy now

Prof.Badass

ScumLord wrote: »

What kind of fancy lighter am I supposed to use? I put it in a bong and it was ****e.

Normal lighter should be fine. how long did you hold it in for?

you're supposed to hold in each toke for as long as possible.

also, how strong was it?

Quint

Not a lot of knowledge on salvia here i see!
If done right you'll know it's done right. As for the comments about no one enjoying it, anyone I know that's taken it has enjoyed it!
Although it's not a party drug, but it's worth experiencing once or twice.

I wish the head shops in ireland had proper staff that know what they're talking about and could give you advice. The staff in the shope in Amsterdam are great, the ones in ireland are rubbish.

ScumLord

vinylmesh wrote: »

Normal lighter should be fine. how long did you hold it in for?

you're supposed to hold in each toke for as long as possible.

also, how strong was it?

I think it was x40, maybe 25 the strongest one they had at the time. I split the contents of the vile between me and a friend. I held it in for as long as I could, I do hold in smoke for a long time anyway it's a habit I picked up from smoking weed.

As far as I'm concerned its a mickey mouse drug for collage students that want to be adventurous (but not to adventurous).

psilocybe

As far as I'm concerned its a mickey mouse drug for collage students that want to be adventurous (but not to adventurous).

I strongly disagree...

The fact that you split he contents of a vial of 40x extract (or even 25x) with a friend and think this makes me think something isn't right.

Poor quality extract perhaps?

Also, remember that there seems to be a "reverse tolderance" effect, with many users finding it diffuiult to get strong effects for the first few times.

AnonoBoy

ScumLord wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned its a mickey mouse drug for collage students that want to be adventurous (but not to adventurous).

From first hand reports I've heard from seasoned (read: burnt out) drug users Salvia is an intense serious drug.

Are you just mad cause it didn't work for you?

ScumLord

AnonoBoy wrote: »

From first hand reports I've heard from seasoned (read: burnt out) drug users Salvia is an intense serious drug.

Are you just mad cause it didn't work for you?

I'm pissed because it's a rip off. All I got was pins and needles all over my body, a slight problem with balance and very mild hallucinations (as in colour changes).

Prof.Badass

Salvia is not a psychedelic, it is a kappa-opiod agonist (nothing to do with opiates).

You won't get much from the visual side of things. It's more of a mindfúck type of thing.
If you're just looking for trippy visuals and if you try and fight the trip you will be dissappointed.

Tar.Aldarion

ScumLord wrote: »

What kind of fancy lighter am I supposed to use? I put it in a bong and it was ****e.

I used a bulmers can with a hole in it.

Wertz

Ass Face wrote: »

Salvia makes you a cabbage for a few minutes. You can't do anything on Salvia. It's ****. There's no reason to make it illegal though. I'd imagine it's not that popular with that many people. Most people buy it, try it, don't like it, and don't ever do it again. Who was the last person you heard of who does Salvia on a regular basis?

Good post. I enjoyed salvia the first time I did it, scared the f*ck out of me and then had me in stitches laughing.
the next time I did I knew what to expect and it wasn't as good. The appeal for repeated use isn't there but it's fun at times. haven't done it in a while though...

elsi wrote: »

i smoked a big bowl of 40x extract in the toilets at work before my christmas party last year, i nearly raped my boss and got a verbal & a written warning as a result.
i wouldnt ban it cos of that though.

and theres not way its stronger than trips, OP i suspect you've just used a load of "drugs" buzz words and may in fact be a tabloid journalist, too lazy to do propper research.
either that or a troll.
which is it~?

It's substantially stronger than any other hallucinogen I've taken even though the effects only last for a few minutes (thank f*ck some might say). TBH the first time I did it I was amazed that it was still legal (not saying that it shouldn't be here BTW)
Why you'd take it at a work party is really beyond me...it's certainly not a social drug in the way alcohol, Es or coke might be...it's a "few mates sitting in the house" type of drug. I'd go as far as to say that taking it in a public place like that is downright stupid, since you loose control of your mind for a brief period.
Buzz words? Journalist? WTF are you smoking?

Irlbo wrote: »

Anyone who smokes that sh*t deserves a stern dig,stupidity why cant you just drink a pint

Because it turns me into a raging alco that does and says stupid sh*t and sometimes leaves me unable to attend work the next morning.
Do you advocate violence against everyone with different life views than you? Maybe years of alcohol consumption has made you intolerant of others...
[edit] That's not to say that I don't enjoy a drink, only that I've gotten more life troubles through drink than through all the other illegal drugs I've taken, combined. Funny that.

Melissa Ambitious Crater wrote: »

Nah, not into non natural drugs. Regardless of what is in it, it looks like there are an arse loads of chemicles in it. Pills, powder, liquid (apart from alcohol) is not in my "I like" list. Bit of homegrown or a few pints, fair enough.

lol just lol.
Salvia is natural, although the extract is treated to concentrate it.
Hell of a lot more natural than any mass produced lager/beer/stout.
Alcohol is a bodily poison BTW and causes much more damage to you than nearly any other drug, especially when abused or over-used.


BTW salvia is technically an entheogen, not an hallucinogen. It's been in use for a lot longer than LSD and probably alcohol.
I expect harney to have it banned in the new year...if she doesn't get thrown to the wolves over her hair do by then.

Mr. CooL ICE

Salvia should be given to every primary school child in the country. It'll scare the sh1t out of them so much that they'll never try any drug.

JC 2K3

vinylmesh wrote: »

You won't get much from the visual side of things.

I wouldn't say that... your visual perception turns into what's represented in this ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGw_KYH63k