Blizzards Vs Coronas

ecoli

While the Corona s seem to have more international exposure at this stage i was just wondering which people thought were the greater talent and who will be remembered as the better band?

My opinion:
Blizzards hands down

Miguel_Sanchez

I doubt either of them will be remembered.

They're both equally insipid.

JLemmon

Jeff_Lebowski wrote: »

I doubt either of them will be remembered.

They're both equally insipid.

Seconded

PaulBrewer

I've only heard a couple of things by the Coronas but neither appear to be at any cutting edge.

Having been involved at the periphery of the Blizzards Album, I can say they're fantastic workers and a lovely bunch of guys.

However, that in itself is no reflection on the Music quality. The Coronas tracks I heard were sonically superior to my ears.

I see no evidence that either will be remembered long term.

Mr Alan

i agree that neither will be remembered. The Blizzards songs are too ****ty and insipid to my ears, which is a shame, because the track Dublin Town (which Mr Brewer should be familiar with) is, imo, an excellent song and is much more interesting than **** like "fantasy" and "trust me, i'm a ****ing doctor".....but they seem content to churn out ****e disposable pop tunes, while their more interesting stuff (Dublin Town for example) is lost as a b-side.

I ****ing hate the singer from the Coronas voice. thats all i'm gonna say about them.

Royale with Cheese

The coronas, really no, just no.

The Blizzards I have to say were a very good band before they were signed, but their music has sadly gone downhill since then. But yeah, neither will be remember in any way.

kjt

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

The coronas, really no, just no.

I have to agree! Not too big a fan of the blizzards either but anyone who is put up against the cackona's will win.

Rubbish imo!

11811

ah hopefully they'll take each other out in a fight to the death.
Would be for the greater good.

PaulBrewer

Cuddleworthy wrote: »

ah hopefully they'll take each other out in a fight to the death.

I'd go to THAT gig! Bressie is a big lad though, Rugby player n all ...

lottodrink

I'll go with the Coronas, love their music. Never heard of the blizzards so........

seachto7

both absolutely horrendous, and will stay popular until the teeny fan girls grow boobs and pubes. after that it will be "next!" :mad:

jdivision

Coronas new single sounds like the Frames!

Chong

Both IMO crap, I stood beside lead singer of Blizzards in a Rage Against the Machine gig in the summer, he gotten a pasting in the pit.

lottodrink

seachto7 wrote: »

both absolutely horrendous, and will stay popular until the teeny fan girls grow boobs and pubes. after that it will be "next!" :mad:

They actually draw in an older fan base as well.. herendous? U into westlife or some rubbish like that!

homerun_homer

They are both dire. The Corona's singer sounds like a right whiny wuss in that song Out Tonight. The Blizzards are purely for young girls IMO so I suppose I should leave ye to debate. I just couldn't pass the thread without voicing my disdain for both.

lordgoat

Scorless draw

PaulBrewer

lordgoat wrote: »

Scorless draw

...and feck all at the match.

LadyMayBelle

Couldn't resist joining in, I hate both. both as crap and annoying as each other.

Placid_Casual

I don't know what everyone's talking about. These are two innovative collectives at the cutting edge of the avant-garde. And they're Irish, so that automatically makes them great. Oh well, I guess they're just too out there for you philistines.



















*warning: may contain traces of sarcasm

DarkJager

homerun_homer wrote: »

They are both dire. The Corona's singer sounds like a right whiny wuss in that song Out Tonight. The Blizzards are purely for young girls IMO so I suppose I should leave ye to debate. I just couldn't pass the thread without voicing my disdain for both.

Hmmm, you say the Coronas are responsible for that ****ing horribly **** song I've been hearing lately??

Well in that case, no band would be more deserving of being sodomised with the broken shards of one of their own singles...

xOxSinéadxOx

I have to say I prefer the blizzards, but that's just cos they're music is listenable. it's nice and poppy but the coronas are just crap

Bubs101

Dick in a blender or balls in a vice....

insinkerator

I would take the corona's over the blizzards any day. I fervently hope that if the blizzards go on tour, that their bus blows up, or something to that effect. They have killed irish music, and are now proceding to piss on its grave.

To be honest The Blizzards to me highlight everything that is wrong with peoples beliefs about music. Everyone seems to classify them as alternative or some other variety of the genre. Why? because there is a guitar in it? give me a ****ing break. As a band they couldnt be any more mainstream. They are signed to a major label, and seem intent on churning out streams of pop drivel, that stays in vogue for about 15 minutes, until some other plonker comes forward and puts out another 3 and a half minute piece of unadulterated crap. It drives me ****ing crazy.
Also, from what i can see, what goes hand in hand with the blizzards are stupid mindless, moronic teenagers with text speak, that from what i can see, actually goes out of its way to rape the english language in everyway possible, and the midst of it all, they are professing their "luv 4 indee musik lyk, da blizzrds r totalleee da best evr!!!!!!"
Now i know, you shouldnt disregard a band because of its fans, but they seem to embrace the following they get from these people, and do their best to build upon it.
Everytime i hear this, i think i bleed a little on the inside.

I know someone is going to come in here and pick out flaws in my argument, someone always does, and im sure their are flaws, its rather difficult to get your opinion across on the internet i find

PaulBrewer

I fervently hope that if the blizzards go on tour, that their bus blows up, or something to that effect. They have killed irish music, and are now proceding to piss on its grave.

That's a bit harsh isn't it? Bus blows up? They're only a few lads playing a few tunes, no more - no less.

Obviously they haven't killed Irish Music as they don't have the power to either kill or revive it.

As a band they couldnt be any more mainstream.

THEY would agree with that, and don't suggest otherwise. They're a pop band and they know it.

It drives me ****ing crazy.

That's the kind of over emotional response one might expect from 'stupid mindless, moronic teenagers with text speak' isn't it?

I know someone is going to come in here and pick out flaws in my argument, someone always does, and im sure their are flaws, its rather difficult to get your opinion across on the internet i find

Well there's certainly flaws in the spelling ...

insinkerator

PaulBrewer wrote: »

That's a bit harsh isn't it? Bus blows up? They're only a few lads playing a few tunes, no more - no less.

Okay so maybe the bus blowing up was a bit of an exaggeration, but i was just trying to get across how much i dislike them.

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Obviously they haven't killed Irish Music as they don't have the power to either kill or revive it.

Yeah i guess your right, they havent killed irish music, it was already dead, i think Bono has put paid to that. But in my opinion, the music they are producing is an embarassment.

PaulBrewer wrote: »

THEY would agree with that, and don't suggest otherwise. They're a pop band and they know it.

Ok so maybe the entire classification thing isnt their fault, but they do seem to classify themselves as Ska and Punk as well. I can kind of see a very minor resemblance of Ska, but i am completely lost on the punk description

PaulBrewer wrote: »

That's the kind of over emotional response one might expect from an 'stupid mindless, moronic teenagers with text speak' isn't it?

I wouldnt think so. Im not being over emotional, it does drive me crazy, and there is no hint of text speak in the statement?

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Well there's certainly flaws in the spelling ...

:rolleyes:one spelling mistake. Everyone makes typos:pac:

speedboatchase

The Blizzards



OR

The Coronas



And neither would be played on the radio if they weren't Irish

PaulBrewer

insinkerator wrote: »

it does drive me crazy,

Relax, it's only a few lads playing a few tunes.

If that 'drives you crazy' then last night's news from Mombay must be leaving you very distraught.

It's all about perspective.

My advice is put your energy into loving things, ignore everything else.

homerun_homer

I've heard this many a time on a Luas or sitting in a café, or talking to total fuppin' eejits...

Girl 1 - "I like the Blizzards"
Girl 2 - "Yeah I love them too"
"The singer is like.. so hot"
"I know.. He used to play rugby for Leinster"
"I know ya, he's so dreamy"
"My sister's boyfriend knows a guy who's cousin is friend's with him"
"Oh wow, so lucky"
"Ya I know"

God bless those musical gods.

PaulBrewer

homerun_homer wrote: »

I've heard this many a time on a Luas or sitting in a café, or talking to total fuppin' eejits...

Girl 1 - "I like the Blizzards"
Girl 2 - "Yeah I love them too"
"The singer is like.. so hot"
"I know.. He used to play rugby for Leinster"
"I know ya, he's so dreamy"
"My sister's boyfriend knows a guy who's cousin is friend's with him"
"Oh wow, so lucky"
"Ya I know"

God bless those musical gods.

Thems is the Rules! All we can do is laugh!!

Bren_M.Records

I see that The Blizzards have signed a publishing deal with Universal UK and their new single The Reason(?) sounds just about perfect (to my uncultured ears anyway) for the mtv/pimp my ride audience.
Think it might be the song that finally get Universal UK to take a chance on them but then again who knows what goes on behind the closed doors of these big organisations.

With that said you'd have to say that The Blizzards are making the bigger impact at present but who knows what The Coronas second album might do for their career.

homerun_homer

Bren_M.Records wrote: »

but who knows what The Coronas second album might do for their career.

Hopefully kill it:D

iamnothim

nah, second album's gonna be a good one. i have it on pretty good authority.

kjt

homerun_homer wrote: »

Hopefully kill it:D

Hopefully!!!

I'll second you there!

30txsbzmcu2k9w

Neither

15 years ago it would have been Whipping Boy vs Rollerskate Skinny.

Mexican Pets, Wormhole, Jubilee, Sunbear, Pet Lamb, The Plague Monkeys, The Idiots all brilliant. What the fcuk happened. Now we're reduced to this watered-down sanitized muck. This thread should be moved to pop tbh.

iamnothim

Neither bands (nor their fans) deny they're pop. There's no pop forum on boards, alt/indie is the closest genre

PaulBrewer

Sylvie Fat Revolt wrote: »

Neither

15 years ago it would have been Whipping Boy vs Rollerskate Skinny.

Mexican Pets, Wormhole, Jubilee, Sunbear, Pet Lamb, The Plague Monkeys, The Idiots all brilliant. What the fcuk happened. Now we're reduced to this watered-down sanitized muck. This thread should be moved to pop tbh.

Ah but would it?

More like the Four of Us and The Stunning.

That's a closer parallel don't you think?

Bren_M.Records

Ye know, even when I was writing my post I knew someone was gonna answer with that kinda response.
Just couldnt think of any other way of putting it!

homerun_homer wrote: »

Hopefully kill it:D

insinkerator

iamnothim wrote: »

Neither bands (nor their fans) deny they're pop. There's no pop forum on boards, alt/indie is the closest genre

There is a general music forum however, which last i checked is for mainstream band discussion

whatawaster

They are both really really bad. The Kooks bad.
I think Westlife might just be the best contemporary Irish band. Scary

shakespeare

have to throw in my 2 cents also...

these are two of the worst bands ive ever heard...

songwriting/musicianship/production by numbers...nothing...

lyrically so awful that ive a punched myself in the face when they've come on the radio...

the band members themselves are in no way interesting whatsoever (no particular charisma, no real obvious talent that you could be in awe of)

if i saw these guys at an open mike...which i think i may have in years gone by...i would clap out of "fair play to ya for trying" embarassment rather then
appreciation...

on all levels...i find it hard to think of a redeeming factor in relation to either of these bands.

imo.

PaulBrewer

shakespeare wrote: »

have to throw in my 2 cents also...

these are two of the worst bands ive ever heard...

.

Worse than The Jonas Brothers?

shakespeare

much worse...

disney are paying the jonas brotehrs to be celeb's/movie stars/pin ups....not really about music at all...

where as these other two guys are trying to be serious musicians...
and im sure they are nice people but thats not the point right now...
the point is that on musical merits...they are bloody AWFUL...tear inducingly bad...its quite strange to see how low peoples/kids musical standards have dropped to except this as entertainment/art/inspiration.

where as the jonas brothers are offensive in the same way high school musical is...just irritating...

red_ice

homerun_homer wrote: »

They are both dire. The Corona's singer sounds like a right whiny wuss in that song Out Tonight.

em, out tonight is a flaws song isnt it? Linkage If your talking about that... i disagree, that is a class indy song imo! If thats what your talking about it couldnt be more distant from the coronas sound, which is weak (from a muscular and diversity pov)

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Relax, it's only a few lads playing a few tunes.

It's all about perspective.

My advice is put your energy into loving things, ignore everything else.

Exactly! I dont like either of those bands if im honest.. i know 2 of the corona lads myself and im far from a teenie bopper. I went to school with them, not in the same year, but i know em enough to talk to when i see em. Both bands have done well for themselves, the coronas are good at what they do, which isnt my bag, so im not gonna comment on it. The blizzards however are trying to be what would somewhat be my taste in music and its horrible. Again, i cant listen to either band so im impartial.

The way i look at it is that both bands are doing what THEY want to do. No band puts out a track just to make other people happy, its for themselves and if people like it then so be it - they get a following. Is there anything wrong with making money for doing something that you love doing? I would hope that the blizzards are nice chaps as i know a couple of the coronas are very level headed and sound to talk to.

Being a musician and about to release an EP early next year i understand how hard it is for your tunes to get heard, so fair fks to both bands. Blood sweat and tears went into each and every one of those tracks, regardless of how good the song is tallentwise, musically, sonically or vocally.

PaulBrewer

red_ice wrote: »

Again, i cant listen to either band so im impartial.

Class!

I'm sure they're all lovely lads, sure isn't the singer in the Blizzards a Doctor for Gawds sake?

You might be interested in a post we have going on M-Prod at the moment if you're about to release -

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055430536

Best of Luck either way!

red_ice

PaulBrewer wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055430536

Best of Luck either way!

Cheers!

Regarding new bands singles being free? our 4 tracks cost us 6k, serious debt to be covered

PaulBrewer

red_ice wrote: »

Cheers!
our 4 tracks cost us 6k, serious debt to be covered

Where did you do them? With whom? What's your myspace?

The likelihood , based on all statistics I have access too, most anecdotal from both shops and bands, is that you haven't a hope in hell of recouping!



(Excuse off topicness - if moderators would prefer we can move this post elsewhere.)

red_ice

not looking to really, but it would be nice to take a lump off of it

iamnothim

Regarding new bands singles being free? our 4 tracks cost us 6k, serious debt to be covered

I think singles are really only supposed to be promotional, so you may as well give em away for free. You'll make your money back by selling albums and gigging. However - if you're selling singles, you can get charted and get radio play as a result, you have to have it in the shops/itunes for that to work.

Anyway though, back on topic

have to throw in my 2 cents also...

these are two of the worst bands ive ever heard...

songwriting/musicianship/production by numbers...nothing...

lyrically so awful that ive a punched myself in the face when they've come on the radio...

the band members themselves are in no way interesting whatsoever (no particular charisma, no real obvious talent that you could be in awe of)

if i saw these guys at an open mike...which i think i may have in years gone by...i would clap out of "fair play to ya for trying" embarassment rather then
appreciation...

on all levels...i find it hard to think of a redeeming factor in relation to either of these bands.

imo.

To be honest dude, I think a lot of your post is pretty baseless. What kind of music are you into? Have you ever seen either band live? Have you ever met any of them personally? You've made a lot of judgements here I don't think you can back up and as they stand, they're quite inaccurate.

The way i look at it is that both bands are doing what THEY want to do. No band puts out a track just to make other people happy, its for themselves and if people like it then so be it - they get a following. Is there anything wrong with making money for doing something that you love doing?

Exactly!

shakespeare

"To be honest dude, I think a lot of your post is pretty baseless. What kind of music are you into? Have you ever seen either band live? Have you ever met any of them personally? You've made a lot of judgements here I don't think you can back up and as they stand, they're quite inaccurate."



Exactly![/QUOTE]

1)"Have you ever seen either band live?".....yes both bands as it happens...at festivals and ive walked out twice...not my thing...as you can gather. (not to say that "that" type of music or gig is not my thing...just that i dont think either band do that type of thing well at all...so i left)

2)"Met them personally?"nope...you ever met Bonnie Tyler??? bet ya dont like her music!.... read my other post...im sure they're nice people...im just talking about their music...+ have seen numerous interviews with both bands(you cant escape either right now) and find nothing interesting/admirable about any of them(as musicians)...am i entitled to have that opinion? if im not then i do apologise...

3)"I think a lot of your post is pretty baseless...." - having listened to their respective albums and singles etc im perfectly within my right to comment on the following (which has absolutely nothing to do with seeing them live or meeting them...)

"songwriting/musicianship/production by numbers...nothing...

lyrically so awful that ive a punched myself in the face when they've come on the radio..."

thats what i said...so how is that baseless???do i need to be related to one of them to have an opinion? a childhood friend perhaps? married to the bass player? or fly on the wall in the recording studio? (none of the above catagories i think you fall into so therefore perhaps we should live and let live and not state someon elses opinions as "baseless" with out having a "base" for the comment youreself...

Ive listened to their music, seen them live...and i dont care less what they eat for breakfast because im a huge music fan of all genres for as long as i care to remember...which entitles me to comment on the current music scene (as can you)which they are a part of...how is that inacurate???? (as you put it?)

it sounds to me like "someone" has a crush on a lead singer and got insulted that i dont want their poster on my wall...

its all just my opinion...im sure the charts dont lie and they have wonderful fans etc. but my point was the standard of this type of music has slipped so far that the drollest of rehashed ideas passes for music...these two bands being the apitomy of awful...on all levels...




in my opinion.

iamnothim

1)"Have you ever seen either band live?".....yes both bands as it happens...at festivals and ive walked out twice...not my thing...as you can gather. (not to say that "that" type of music or gig is not my thing...just that i dont think either band do that type of thing well at all...so i left)

Fair enough. Although, I should point out that I couldn't find fault in either band's live show in respect to the music they are playing. Both are very tight live and are at least a good as their respective recorded material.

2)"Met them personally?"nope...you ever met Bonnie Tyler??? bet ya dont like her music!.... read my other post...im sure they're nice people...im just talking about their music...+ have seen numerous interviews with both bands(you cant escape either right now) and find nothing interesting/admirable about any of them(as musicians)...am i entitled to have that opinion? if im not then i do apologise...

In your original post you commented on the band member's charisma, which I took in the sense of their personality. I'm not really sure how charisma comes into the music so I'll leave that one

3)"I think a lot of your post is pretty baseless...." - having listened to their respective albums and singles etc im perfectly within my right to comment on the following (which has absolutely nothing to do with seeing them live or meeting them...)

"songwriting/musicianship/production by numbers...nothing...

lyrically so awful that ive a punched myself in the face when they've come on the radio..."

I can understand how someone could feel the music uninteresting, but pain inducing? really? It is what it is after all, and that's run of the mill pop rock. By default it's inoffensive and easy to listen to.
I will agree that lyrics are probably the weaker of points with a lot of the radio friendly singles being churned out by these bands today (although there are exceptions). In The Coronas defense on this point, the songs they've released were all written when they were 17/18 so theirs an element of maturity which will only develop in album #2.

thats what i said...so how is that baseless???do i need to be related to one of them to have an opinion? a childhood friend perhaps? married to the bass player? or fly on the wall in the recording studio? (none of the above catagories i think you fall into so therefore perhaps we should live and let live and not state someon elses opinions as "baseless" with out having a "base" for the comment youreself...

I'm not going to go into it, but I actually am very involved with one of these groups. In that regard my opinion is very slanted

Ive listened to their music, seen them live...and i dont care less what they eat for breakfast because im a huge music fan of all genres for as long as i care to remember...which entitles me to comment on the current music scene (as can you)which they are a part of...how is that inacurate???? (as you put it?)

True, I shouldn't have commented on an opinion as being inacurate, that's contradictary.

it sounds to me like "someone" has a crush on a lead singer and got insulted that i dont want their poster on my wall...

Not quite

shakespeare

just a few points...thanks for the reply...

a) charisma? has got a lot to do with this type of music as it does in pop/rock/rap etc. even metal and emo...anywhere there is a market...charisma is involved. Live shows particularly...whats the point in having killer songs but not being able to effect the crowd with your performance of them...youre on stage persona??? neither of these bands have songs or charisma...that was my point...

b) monkeys can play in time if you teach them long enough...only when timing is perfected in improvisation or crafted into something clever and effecting is "timing" an impressive aspect of a band...in fact...timing is a Necessity for an even half decent band...not something to be proud of or rate a band by...."this band is good.....it can play its insturments in time"...and since their respective recorded material isnt very good then you can see why i didnt enjoy them live.

C)Pain inducing...just a metaphore...nothing more...but it did what it was supposed to do...which was get my point accross...

also my metaphore for you having a crush on one of the bands seems to be close to the mark...as you are involved in some way with them...

not everyone is gonna like your pals band...in fact most people wont...but they are entitled to that...and who knows...maybe album number 2 will prove im an eejitt who spoke too soon.