George Bush Redemption

davyjose

With 50-odd days left to the worst US presidential legacy since nixon, is there anything, barring suicide, that Daddy Jr's son can do to redeem himself? I think not. But maybe we can guide the ol' Retard Cowboy into immortality????

Maybe we could marry him off to Russel Brand?

Edit: If not, blame Overheal!

KerranJast

They love him in Africa.

Nodin

KerranJast wrote: »

They love him in Africa.

In certain parts. So maybe Robert would retire and Bush take over?

Caoimhín

When all is said and done, i dont think he did that bad of a job.

//runs off to hide from **** storm.

Terry

He could turn himself in for starting an illegal war and breaking the Geneva convention by mistreating prisoners of war and people the CIA just picked up off the street in countries across the world.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

he could cure baldness and erectile dysfunction.

dr.bollocko

He could shoot himself.
No. Of course there isn't a thing he can do to redeem himself.
Maybe the American people can redeem themselves. When someone shows you that they are a ****tarded idiot it would tend to be best to believe them.

Guy:Incognito

Terry wrote: »

He could turn himself in for starting an illegal war and breaking the Geneva convention by mistreating prisoners of war and people the CIA just picked up off the street in countries across the world.

At least Obama will keep all that stuff under wraps and away from the public eye while it's going on during his presidency.

Ciaran500

He could start wiping out those pesky endangered species

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27812209/

mikemac

Yawn, another bashing thread.

Every country who ever took part in a war has broken the Geneva convention since it was introduced
Don't tell me the rules are followed 100% of the time by any single nation.

Pushed through a guest worker program which will help many lowly paid immigrants despite massive opposition from some of his own party.
Increased foreign aid, I'm sure parts of Africa admire him.

Oh, this is AH, lets just call the guy a retard and leave it at that.

Terry

Stekelly wrote: »

At least Obama will keep all that stuff under wraps and away from the public eye while it's going on during his presidency.

Indeed.

Fair play to Bush though.
He's currently bombing Pakistan. A country with nukes.

AckwelFoley

Terry wrote: »

He could turn himself in for starting an illegal war and breaking the Geneva convention by mistreating prisoners of war and people the CIA just picked up off the street in countries across the world.

lol. Utter rubbish.
Illegal war.. Like terrorist play fair. Was 9/11 covered under the geneva convention?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

was iraq responsible for 9/11?

linkage?

jhegarty

Mordeth wrote: »

was iraq responsible for 9/11?

linkage?

No , it was about Sadam been an idiot and pretending he had wmds....

dr.bollocko

It's gonna be a tough call to realistically defend the political legacy of that ****ing moron.
/popcorn.

AckwelFoley

Mordeth wrote: »

was iraq responsible for 9/11?

linkage?

try doing some decent research on the last 10 years or so. Try to avoid leftwing anti american media that seems to be the staple diet for so many

Terry

snyper wrote: »

lol. Utter rubbish.
Illegal war.. Like terrorist play fair. Was 9/11 covered under the geneva convention?

The Geneva convention relates to the treatment off prisoners of war.

Equating the deaths of 3,000 Americans with that of 100,000 Iraqis is just wrong.

Those involved in the attack on the twin towers were mostly Saudis and were based in Afghanistan.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

snyper wrote: »

try doing some decent research on the last 10 years or so. Try to avoid leftwing anti american media that seems to be the staple diet for so many

"Decent research" being Fox news, Sky and the Sunday World...?

dr.bollocko

snyper wrote: »

try doing some decent research on the last 10 years or so. Try to avoid leftwing anti american media that seems to be the staple diet for so many

Plenty of Americans have been criticising Dubya for years and years. Is this also Anti-American? If so it is just like Palin says? Two Americas?
I don't want to live in a world where that chick is right.
/hovers over justin.tv link.

AckwelFoley

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

"Decent research" being Fox news, Sky and the Sunday World...?

No

AckwelFoley

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Plenty of Americans have been criticising Dubya for years and years. Is this also Anti-American? If so it is just like Palin says? Two Americas?
I don't want to live in a world where that chick is right.
/hovers over justin.tv link.

bush was the worst US president since nixon, but like
all these threads its simply a another chance for gobshìtes to take mindless potshots at the US.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

like how they're all fat and stupid?

iPlop

Caoimhín wrote: »

When all is said and done, i dont think he did that bad of a job.

//runs off to hide from **** storm.

are you off yer rocker ?

dr.bollocko

Septic Leper wrote: »

are you off yer rocker ?

But I'm not going out with her...

AckwelFoley

Mordeth wrote: »

like how they're all fat and stupid?

Yes. Pretty much.

Loads of fat stupid americans, no more proportionally than there are Irish.

Terry

snyper wrote: »

try doing some decent research on the last 10 years or so. Try to avoid leftwing anti american media that seems to be the staple diet for so many

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/Saddam%20and%20Terrorism%20Redaction%20EXSUM%20Extract.pdf
Last paragraph on page four.

http://irrationallyinformed.com/pdfcollection/20040729_Kerr_Report.pdf

philologos

http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/UncleSam.-X.gif
I think that sums it all up

Nodin

Caoimhín wrote: »

When all is said and done, i dont think he did that bad of a job.

//runs off to hide from **** storm.

That stuff rots both nose and brain in the long run you know.

Nodin

snyper wrote: »

bush was the worst US president since nixon, but like
all these threads its simply a another chance for gobshìtes to take mindless potshots at the US.

"mindless potshots"? My Son, given the amount of ammunition we've been given over the last year, we now are taking well aimed shots to the head and torso at ranges of up to a thousand yards, in a crosswind.

rossie1977

snyper wrote: »

bush was the worst US president since nixon, but like
all these threads its simply a another chance for gobshìtes to take mindless potshots at the US.

in fairness every second day on here i see a thread or post saying dublin is a kip, roscommon is a kip, athlone is siht, galway is massively over-rated and has weather worse than the north pole, worst place to live in ireland, cork people are annoying aholes, the north should be set adrift etc; america gets off very lite compared to most of ireland :eek:

bush has been the worst president in recent memory, nixon had nothing on this guy. as soon as bush was elected 8 years ago in that dodgy election everyone outside of america (and many there) were saying this would be a disaster and "shock horror" those people were proved right. and much of the blame can also be set at the feet of his cronies like Cheney, Wolfowitz, rumsfeld etc. colin powell and for a less part Condoleezza Rice i am sure had higher dreams, those dreams will go unfulfilled now because of their assocation with bush and co

the us president used to be a man admired man in the western world, bush turned the presidency into a joke and became one of if not the most hated men outside of america in the process, though he and his band of merry men did become very rich so i suppose one cancels out the other i like linking these to prove how difference one man can make in the space of a few years:
clinton http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/1065913.stm
Bush http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ireland-on-antiwar-footing-as-bush-visit-triggers-huge-protest-755831.html

as for US governmental aid, how much is actually getting to the people who need it and how much is financing wars in africa and making things worse, most US governmental aid goes to iraq, afganistan and israel anyway for military purposes (alot of it is lost) http://www.globalissues.org/article/35/us-and-foreign-aid-assistance

Biggins

58 days to go...

Countdown clock: http://newprez.com/index.jsp?key=20081123AM

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biko

There is nothing GWB can do to redeem himself. That goes for Rove, Rice and the rest too. Hopefully the US is now on the right track, but don't count on it.

Kold

America would redeem themselves by impeaching him. He needs to be brought to justice.

the_syco

snyper wrote: »

lol. Utter rubbish.
Illegal war.. Like terrorist play fair. Was 9/11 covered under the geneva convention?

Yup. Lets make peace, not war.

starn

I think GW should invade Iran in his final week and drop Obama in it on his first day in office. Lets see how smug the Obama supporters are then

KingSitric

Nothing can redeem this man. Let him retreat and dissolve into his Texan retirement. It's the best we hope for.

rainbow kirby

The only thing that could redeem him would be for him to die of a heart attack on the floor of the Oval Office while enjoying hot hot manlove with Dick Cheney, while lying on torn-up pages of the Bible.

Sam Vimes

snyper wrote: »

lol. Utter rubbish.
Illegal war.. Like terrorist play fair. Was 9/11 covered under the geneva convention?

No it wasn't but 9/11 wasn't committed by a member of nato and the united nations

Mark200

The only thing he could do is if Osama Bin Laden is caught while he's president. Besides that, no I don't think there's anything that could help him

dr.bollocko

Mark200 wrote: »

The only thing he could do is if Osama Bin Laden is caught while he's president. Besides that, no I don't think there's anything that could help him

Even then? What the hell does it matter now?
Aint no way in hell even going back 8 years to the start of his first term that that idiot or any idiot could have such an effective war on terror that it would stop 15 people (like the team assembled for the 9/11 attacks) from risking doing the same thing again.

SimpleSam06

Just a point of interest here, the US hasn't declared war in decades, so I doubt the Geneva conventions really apply. Yes they invaded many places but there was no official declaration of war. Doesn't excuse anything of course.

Highsider

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Mark200

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Even then? What the hell does it matter now?
Aint no way in hell even going back 8 years to the start of his first term that that idiot or any idiot could have such an effective war on terror that it would stop 15 people (like the team assembled for the 9/11 attacks) from risking doing the same thing again.

Well in terms of history, people could look back and say....yeah, he shouldn't have invaded Iraq...but he did capture the most wanted terrorist in the world.

Terry

SimpleSam06 wrote: »

Just a point of interest here, the US hasn't declared war in decades, so I doubt the Geneva conventions really apply. Yes they invaded many places but there was no official declaration of war. Doesn't excuse anything of course.

Ahh, well that's ok then.
They only liberated these countries and gave them some freedom.
As long as that's all they did then everything is cool.

Syferus

davyjose wrote: »

With 50-odd days left to the worst US presidential legacy since nixon, is there anything, barring suicide, that Daddy Jr's son can do to redeem himself? I think not. But maybe we can guide the ol' Retard Cowboy into immortality????

Maybe we could marry him off to Russel Brand?

Edit: If not, blame Overheal!

The whole Bush hate has went far overboard. He ('he' representing the whole administeration) couldn't have done any of the marque things like Iraq without the support of sigificant parts of the Democratic Party.

The ecomonic meltdown had little to do with Bush policies - de-regulation in the sub-prime mortage sector was being pushed for by the social justice wing of the Democratic Party so that people who otherwise would not be offered house loans because of poor credit ratings would be given them at higher interest rates. As these people started to default, the whole domino effect that created the current situation began.

Again, it wasn't just the Democrats - the Republicians supported it in enough numbers for these things to go ahead too, but Bush's own ecomonic policies don't carry the weight of the current crisis at the very least.

Biggins

Syferus wrote: »

The whole Bush hate has went far overboard. He ('he' representing the whole administeration) couldn't have done any of the marque things like Iraq without the support of sigificant parts of the Democratic Party.

The ecomonic meltdown had little to do with Bush policies - de-regulation in the sub-prime mortage sector was being pushed for by the social justice wing of the Democratic Party so that people who otherwise would not be offered house loans because of poor credit ratings would be given them at higher interest rates. As these people started to default, the whole domino effect that created the current situation began.

Again, it wasn't just the Democrats - the Republicians supported it in enough numbers for these things to go ahead too, but Bush's own ecomonic policies don't carry the weight of the current crisis at the very least.

O' please!

The man has broken 390+ laws and twisted others so far that have been documented!
Good god, here is the info on the list of crimes so far: http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/20/hugh-king-of-all-media/

...and they are still adding to it!
...and these are just the ones we have discovered so far too!

I can't believe people actually still support this muppet!
Thi man is hated more now at home and across the world than Bin Laden and that's saying something!

Syferus

Biggins wrote: »

O' please!

The man has broken 390+ laws and twisted others so far that have been documented!
Good god, here is the info on the list of crimes so far: http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/20/hugh-king-of-all-media/

...and they are still adding to it!
...and these are just the ones we have discovered so far too!

I can't believe people actually still support this muppet!
Thi man is hated more now at home and across the world than Bin Laden and that's saying something!

If you think my post supports him you need to re-read it.
Partisan 'scandal lists' count for nothing - a conversative site could cook up a simliarily long list about Bill Clinton.
No one is arguing that the general view of him is favourable, though.

Biggins

Syferus wrote: »

...No one is arguing that the general view of him is favourable, though.

That's for sure!

Kathrina was a classic example.
He was told that the place was about to flood. It was given money to defend against floods.
What did he do? He took their flood dam money away to help pay for his war.
The place flooded - many deaths - billions of damage (more than what he took away actually in money, ironic!).
Then he sent in the Blackwater illegal troops to patrol the place and shoot on sight ...and this is on the streets of America!

War criminal is not just the word for this nutcase - a figurehead for the private military organisations and oil business is also a title many have put on him.

No wonder no one wants to be seen shaking his hand. No one wants to shake Mugabies hand either.
Both are responsible for as many deaths as the other.

EamonnKeane

He has Osama, Maddie and the Ark of the Covenant in the White House basement. Last day in office, walking away from the mikestand ... "oh, and there's just one more thing..." Follow THAT, Obama.

thebman

snyper wrote: »

lol. Utter rubbish.
Illegal war.. Like terrorist play fair. Was 9/11 covered under the geneva convention?

So if attacked by terrorists you should immediately reduce yourself to their level and be beaten by experience eh?

Step One: Attack
Step Two: ??????
Step Three: Profit

Mark200 wrote: »

Well in terms of history, people could look back and say....yeah, he shouldn't have invaded Iraq...but he did capture the most wanted terrorist in the world.

Well actually he just changed the name of the most wanted terrorist in the world. The one he captured was just replaced by another, probably equally fooked up character.

Sam Vimes

redemption would have to involve at least 3 billion blow jobs