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what is juggernauting?
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21-11-2008 9:20pm#1
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Tough Johnnson! wrote: »ok thanks
People feel that you are inferior when you use this, it really really winds some people up so much. Expect people to shout their heads off at you because of it :rolleyes:0 -
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Not really. Most poeple don't use it, but I came across a guy with it, gave him a quick blast with my rifle, G36c, expecting him to die but he didn't. He just turned and shot me. Or if you hit someone through a wall with a sniper rifle with Deep Impact it'll kill them, unless they have juggennaught.
I absolutely hate Juggernaught and Last Stand.
Ah love em both
It's very simple to kill someone with juggernaut...empty the mag into them
or headshots.. 0 -
Not really. Most poeple don't use it, but I came across a guy with it, gave him a quick blast with my rifle, G36c, expecting him to die but he didn't. He just turned and shot me. Or if you hit someone through a wall with a sniper rifle with Deep Impact it'll kill them, unless they have juggennaught.
I absolutely hate Juggernaught and Last Stand.
Ah now we collide 0 -
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I think allot of people complain about Jugg and other things like claymores, dead silence, nade launchers ( noob tubes ), last stand is because if you play a offical match on ESL or clanbase or wotever these are not in Promod at all and only some of the perks are available in Pam mod if requested
well thats why I get frustrated if I get gaymored ... juggernaut dont bother me much though. 0 -
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The game (COD4) tries to simulate warfare and weapons of warfare, as well as tactics.
Should real-life armies stop using grenade launchers because they're for n00bs? :rolleyes:
A sniper shouldn't protect himself with a claymore? You shouldn't put a claymore in a pathway that is an enemy rat-run?
:rolleyes:
You shouldn't use superior body armour (juggernaut)?
Ridiculous statements people! All valid tactics and if you can't overcome then then you haven't really learned to play the game properly and are a bit of a n00b yourself!
I always check first to make sure there's no claymores, I usually run and then jump at entrances to doorways or I run past a doorway, peak inside on my way past and then run back in if it's clear.
Complaining about someone using a valid game tool is lame and shows you just haven't learned to counter that tool.0 -
The game (COD4) tries to simulate warfare and weapons of warfare, as well as tactics.
Should real-life armies stop using grenade launchers because they're for n00bs? :rolleyes:
A sniper shouldn't protect himself with a claymore? You shouldn't put a claymore in a pathway that is well-run by the enemy?:rolleyes:
You shouldn't use superior body armour (juggernaut)?
Ridiculous statements people! All valid tactics and if you can't overcome then then you haven't really learned to play the game properly and are a bit of a n00b yourself!
I always check first to make sure there's no claymores, I usually run and then jump at entrances to doorways or I run past a doorway, peak inside on my way past and then run back in if it's clear.
Complaining about someone using a valid game tool is lame and shows you just haven't learned to counter that tool.
If they are not at all lame or Noobish or require less skill to use... why do most competitive leagues use promod :rolleyes:
Obviously the "pro gamers" who made pro mod decided that it requires more skill to aim your weapon rather than rely on this fancy stuff
Lets say they had all the perks on in promod. The majority of people would slap a nade launcher on with juggernaut/dead silence/marty , run to the enemys spawn fire the nade launcher, throw all of his 3 grenades(only allowed 1 in promod), and when he dies drops a nade or can use last stand and probably killing the majority of the team.... SO to me that dont require much skill or tactics0 -
On the basis of making everyone equal for competition I assume? :rolleyes:If they are not at all lame or Noobish or require less skill to use... why do most competitive leagues use promod :rolleyes:
Yet if you want to have FUN (like games are supposed to be?) then perks are great. Why do competitive gamers play the regular game then if perks are so 'n00bish'? Why don't they run promod all the time if that's what they are 'training' for? :rolleyes:
Fancy stuff?! Come on, should all real-life wars be fought so that all soldiers have the same equipment? The game is called - Callof Duty 4: Modern WarfareObviously the "pro gamers" who made pro mod decided that it requires more skill to aim your weapon rather than rely on this fancy stuff
It simulates the tools of modern warfare. Is that too hard to grasp?
Yep but isn't spawn camping or running to spawn sites to take out people just as much of a n00b tactic as everything else you rail against? Or is that allowed because they are "pros"Lets say they had all the perks on in promod. The majority of people would slap a nade launcher on with juggernaut/dead silence/marty , run to the enemys spawn fire the nade launcher, throw all of his 3 grenades(only allowed 1 in promod), and when he dies drops a nade or can use last stand and probably killing the majority of the team.... SO to me that dont require much skill or tactics 0 -
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Yes I hate to see people using certain perks like martyrdom and last stand, not because they kill me the odd time with them, but because I feel they are a big waste of a perk. Both are only any use when you are dead the rest are more useful over time.The only way I can see martyrdom and last stand being useful is if you are useless at the game and die quickly the only way you can get frags might be to use these perks.
As for the noobtube I can understand why players that have some experience of the game get annoyed as it requires little or no skill to use. Some maps people just sit at the spawn and fire them across the level. Since I have started playing CoD4 I have only ever seen one replay of my death by noobtube that I would consider a skillful shot, most of the rest of them were just short range shots. To test my theory I set up a profile with noobtube and gave the mouse to my two-year-old daughter and with random button pressing she got frags on a few maps (I don't think she is looking for a clan just yet ) 0 -
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Most servers have rules about Marty/nade launcher/LS but just dont have the admins to enforce them. Most gamers to comply though. Why they dont have Promod on all the time ... I dont know tbh havn't seen any that have it on all the timeOn the basis of making everyone equal for competition I assume? :rolleyes:
Yet if you want to have FUN (like games are supposed to be?) then perks are great. Why do competitive gamers play the regular game then if perks are so 'n00bish'? Why don't they run promod all the time if that's what they are 'training' for? :rolleyes:
Gaming is not real life and most Gamers want a fair game. I get frustrated getting killed by g launcher/gaymores because I think its not fair. Then I COULD use all of that and rack up kills by spamming nades and putting claymores everywhere but then I would feel like I suck at COD4... but thats just me. I usually top the server anyway only with stopping power, extreme conditioning and a ak47.Fancy stuff?! Come on, should all real-life wars be fought so that all soldiers have the same equipment? The game is called - Callof Duty 4: Modern Warfare It simulates the tools of modern warfare. Is that too hard to grasp?
Spawn camping is not a noob tactic it was just an example of how easy it could be to wipe out a spawn when your armed up like RamboYep but isn't spawn camping or running to spawn sites to take out people just as much of a n00b tactic as everything else you rail against? Or is that allowed because they are "pros"
The only time spawn camping is ghey on public servers... is when they have the bomb and they are meant to PLANT IT! Half the team dies from rushing into initial nade spamming then the rest camp with sniper rifles lol0 -
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Gaming is not real life and most Gamers want a fair game. I get frustrated getting killed by g launcher/gaymores because I think its not fair.
So when I see a guy running, work out his trajectory, pull a grenade, cook it and launch it at the spot I think he'll be in when it goes off, that's unfair? Me using a weapon very skilfully is unfair? Riiiight, suuuure. :pac:
Yes, that is just you. Spamming grenades doesn't take much skill but also doesn't get any results unless you are on a small map with loads of players...or you're a spawn camping n00b!Then I COULD use all of that and rack up kills by spamming nades and putting claymores everywhere but then I would feel like I suck at COD4... but thats just me.
Spawn camping definitely is a n00b tactic, especially if you do it and your the type of person that considers skilful use of grenades and well-placed claymores as somehow 'unfair'Spawn camping is not a noob tactic it was just an example of how easy it could be to wipe out a spawn when your armed up like Rambo
I'm not having a go at you I'm just confused by that. Anyone who sits out near a spawn site and just shoots everyone that appears there after getting killed on the map is definitely using a n00b tactic to top the lists. That's unfair, doesn't give the other players a chance and is generally poor sportsmanship. Some poor guy dies, respawns and even before he takes his first steps some bugger shoots him dead again... How you can defend that low tactic is beyond me...especially when you have seem to scorn other more valid tactics.
However, I don't think we're going to see eye-to-eye on this and I can see it going around in circles until I'm dizzy and probably just agree with you to get some peace
No, spawn camping is always bad imo. As above, I think we're never going to agree on thisThe only time spawn camping is ghey on public servers... is when they have the bomb and they are meant to PLANT IT! Half the team dies from rushing into initial nade spamming then the rest camp with sniper rifles lol 0 -
So when I see a guy running, work out his trajectory, pull a grenade, cook it and launch it at the spot I think he'll be in when it goes off, that's unfair? Me using a weapon very skilfully is unfair? Riiiight, suuuure. :pac:
If you can do this from a decent range ... Well played gg u got skillz but most noob tube kills are close range and seeming as the blast radius is pretty big you dont need to aim it as precise as a gun and pretty much means insta death to anyone with a rifle.
Omg omg omg how dare you imply im a spawn camping noob. :eek:Yes, that is just you. Spamming grenades doesn't take much skill but also doesn't get any results unless you are on a small map with loads of players...or you're a spawn camping n00b!
Omg stop it !Spawn camping definitely is a n00b tactic, especially if you do it and your the type of person that considers skilful use of grenades and well-placed claymores as somehow 'unfair'
Im thinking about search and destroy :pac:I'm not having a go at you I'm just confused by that. Anyone who sits out near a spawn site and just shoots everyone that appears there after getting killed on the map is definitely using a n00b tactic to top the lists. That's unfair, doesn't give the other players a chance and is generally poor sportsmanship. Some poor guy dies, respawns and even before he takes his first steps some bugger shoots him dead again... How you can defend that low tactic is beyond me...especially when you have seem to scorn other more valid tactics.
LOL.... true ..ok just go back to your bowling forumHowever, I don't think we're going to see eye-to-eye on this and I can see it going around in circles until I'm dizzy and probably just agree with you to get some peace
Im against spawn camping on public servers but in competitive play it would be more of a tactics kinda thing ! Would only work if say the defending team are noobish enough to step away from the bomb sites (spawn camping more less) and go into line of sight of the attacking team ( who would prob have a sniper camping or smthing )No, spawn camping is always bad imo. As above, I think we're never going to agree on this
Anyway ima go terrorize the bowling forum lol0 -
If you can do this from a decent range ... Well played gg u got skillz but most noob tube kills are close range and seeming as the blast radius is pretty big you dont need to aim it as precise as a gun and pretty much means insta death to anyone with a rifle.
Omg omg omg how dare you imply im a spawn camping noob. :eek:
Omg stop it !
Im thinking about search and destroy :pac:
LOL.... true ..ok just go back to your bowling forum
Im against spawn camping on public servers but in competitive play it would be more of a tactics kinda thing ! And would only work against a noobish team who are meant to be defending bombsites and pretty much spawn camping.
Tyrant, my pc broke yesterday, which is why i wasnt on. hopefully it'll be sorted by the time of our match tonight. love you 0 -
cherryghost wrote: »Tyrant, my pc broke yesterday, which is why i wasnt on. hopefully it'll be sorted by the time of our match tonight. love you
I told ya it was ****e !!! It took you like a week to get left 4 dead working :pac:0 -
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