Pros and cons with Limerick

Wendero

Hi

I made a similar thread in the NUI Galway forum and got many good answers there, so I thought maybe it could work here too:)

Well, simply, I would like everyone to list what they think is good (pros) and bad (cons) with Limerick and/or the university.

I'm right now thinking about either going to Limerick or Galway, so comparisons between them are welcome.

The program I'm considering studying at is "Economics and math".

/John

Mossin

I'm going to suggest that you read the "What you need yo know about UL thread", the "Daily Bitch about life in UL thread", and basically do a search of the forum in general.

I'm not trying to be negative here, but there are lots of these threads on the go, and come up regularly with people repeating themselves over and over.

Wendero

Sorry about it, the "official bitch about life in UL" is just very long and, from what I've read, a little bit negative (there gotta be SOMETHING good with UL too, right?). I've found information about living costs and so, but it's hard to find general information. If you have any thread (for example, a thread with the best things about UL/Limerick), please let me know where it is.

/John

klong

Wendero wrote: »

Sorry about it, the "official bitch about life in UL" is just very long and, from what I've read, a little bit negative (there gotta be SOMETHING good with UL too, right?). I've found information about living costs and so, but it's hard to find general information. If you have any thread (for example, a thread with the best things about UL/Limerick), please let me know where it is.

/John

There's a reason it's a bit negative, read the title?:rolleyes:

Use your head and search the forum, it's not that hard to do

Peteee

As Mossin pointed out read the "What you need to know about UL" which is stickied at the top of the forum. Gives a good overview of UL and is hilarious to boot.

The bitch about UL thread is always going to be a bit negative!

Diamond007

klong wrote: »

Use your head and search the forum, it's not that hard to do

That comes across a little rude.... :eek:

klong

Diamond007 wrote: »

That comes across a little rude.... :eek:

Perhaps it is. But people shouldn't have to be spoon-fed information. The information is there, it's just a question of finding it.

Wendero

I can partly agree with that, Klong, still, I don't think such a thread (where you count up pros and cons) would be only for me - many people could get use of it. The "What you need to know about UL"-thread didn't seem very serious. Funny, but not very serious. Especially not if you're a teetotaller who likes to study;)

cson

klong wrote: »

Perhaps it is. But people shouldn't have to be spoon-fed information. The information is there, it's just a question of finding it.

Ya big Patricia Conlon disciple ya

klong

cson wrote: »

Ya big Patricia Conlon disciple ya

:eek: Introduce yerself tomorrow young man!

Wendero

Okey, I got an email about a new post that I cannot find - there were some tags in it, probably that's the reason it was deleted.

Anyway, the post said that Savage village was a great place and that co-op is a nice experience, and that the gym and pool were great. So was the nightlife - not that I care very much, I'm not very much of a partying person:) The student villages got a community with restaurants and everything

On the other side, UL got some problems with the Internet. If you got problems, your on your own. Not good.

But what about the standard of the education? Professor Ramsey seems to be a really nice person, I've talked with him a lot over the internet and once over phone. But if anyone knows anything else, please let me know.

/John

sceptre

Diamond007 wrote: »

That comes across a little rude.... :eek:

Curt yes, rude no. Curt can be OK if not overused.

Wendero wrote: »

Anyway, the post said that Savage village was a great place

Checking all deleted posts (the poster deleted his own), it was "Savage campus, the student villages look class even just from a scenic point of view", not Savage Village. Limerick can be as rough as any other city but we've not reached the stage where we're calling a campus village after it yet:)

Wendero

Yep, sorry about the mistake, I misread his post:) Anyway, not much difference. I think brookfield (... or did I misspell again?) seems to be a nice place, given that I'm very interested in studying. A little bit far away from UL of course:( Takes 15-30 minuits to walk according to sources:( Pretty harsch rules, but might actually not be very wrong.

/John

ninty9er

Plassey is fun for first year, and considering 1st year is disregarded for the purpose of degree classification, I'm sorry I didn't have more fun. All you need to do is pass!

1huge1

ninty9er wrote: »

Plassey is fun for first year, and considering 1st year is disregarded for the purpose of degree classification, I'm sorry I didn't have more fun. All you need to do is pass!

Im happier just going to plassey for house parties and the likes, would hate to live there.

The Don

UL is great. End of story.

Wendero

What about study environment? Which place (dromroe, brookfield, plassey...) would be best if you want to study more than party?

/John

1huge1

Wendero wrote: »

What about study environment? Which place (dromroe, brookfield, plassey...) would be best if you want to study more than party?

/John

brookfield & Cappavilla

Wendero

Okey. I read that brookfield has banned partying - funny student village I gotta say, definitely a bit nerdish;)

So which one of them would you recommend? I read Brookfield were expensive, but according to my calculation, it only costs 108 euros per week to live there - internet etc included. It's a bit away from college, but I would say I'm used to it - had the same distance (20-30 minuites walk) to my primary school, and even longer (1 hour walk or so) to my highschool - but now I take the bus.

/John

jkeire

Cappavilla's not too bad for studying I reckon. But I'd say you'll never get total silence wherever you go.

Wendero

Total silence... does it exists somewhere except space?;)

I also read somewhere that it's hard to get an apartment with only one roommate, that those rooms are reserved for "special" people if on campus. Then maybe Brookfield is better? Or what do you think? The more roommates, the greater the chance that you will end up living with at least one idiot. At least that's how I see it.

/John

ninty9er

Wendero wrote: »

Total silence... does it exists somewhere except space?;)

I also read somewhere that it's hard to get an apartment with only one room-mate, that those rooms are reserved for "special" people if on campus. Then maybe Brookfield is better? Or what do you think? The more room-mates, the greater the chance that you will end up living with at least one idiot. At least that's how I see it.

/John

TBH you're better of with 6/8 people in first year, otherwise you'll end up being that wierd recluse that does EVERYTHING on his own and that nobody wants to be in project groups with.

2 people is more a 4th year thing. At least if you get stuck with an idiot in a 6/8 bed house there are other people to share the pain, in a 2 bed they'll be annoying you 24/7.

2 Bed is best left til when you know someone and you plan to move into the same house together.

jkeire

Wendero wrote: »

Total silence... does it exists somewhere except space?;)

I also read somewhere that it's hard to get an apartment with only one roommate, that those rooms are reserved for "special" people if on campus. Then maybe Brookfield is better? Or what do you think? The more roommates, the greater the chance that you will end up living with at least one idiot. At least that's how I see it.

/John

yeah, but I'm living in a house with five other people, and there are five of us who get along really well! Couldn't imagine living in a 2 person house. could be something you regret. By the way, would you be interested in joining clubs or societies or just be into the acedemics?

Wendero

Yep, living with many probably suits some people - not to say, living with many suits many people. I, though, think I would do better in a 2-person apartment (please note: not house). If I have to I'll live with more. My point was, that there might not be so many special people in need of a 2-person apartment off campus (those visiting professors or whoever they might be probably stay on campus).

I'd probably join some clubs/societies. Is there anywhere I can see a list of what societies and clubs there are?

ninty9er

Wendero wrote: »

Yep, living with many probably suits some people - not to say, living with many suits many people. I, though, think I would do better in a 2-person apartment (please note: not house). If I have to I'll live with more. My point was, that there might not be so many special people in need of a 2-person apartment off campus (those visiting professors or whoever they might be probably stay on campus).

I'd probably join some clubs/societies. Is there anywhere I can see a list of what societies and clubs there are?

www.clubsandsocs.ul.ie

Any questions you can pm me. I'm on the C&S exec and could give you an idea about what's involved in them if the websites don't give everything you want to know.

Wendero

Thanks for the page, I took a quick look at it... well, Christian union is nice:)

I sent you a message in your guestbook (a visitor's message).

/John

ninty9er

Added there. I deleted the message to stop webbots harvesting the email address.

Wendero

Okey, nice. You suddenly went offline on the MSN, but I hope to see you soon.

/John

klong

Wendero wrote: »

I'd probably join some clubs/societies. Is there anywhere I can see a list of what societies and clubs there are?

Do you have to be spoon-fed everything? :rolleyes:

Wendero

Haha, no, it is simply a question. If you don't want to answer to the question, please don't answer at all. Remember, other people could be reading this thread who may be asking this too. It's not like if you're only helping one person.

/John

Peteee

Lads, if ye can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.

Or at least do it in the bitch thread!

Wendero

I agree Peteee.

I looked up a lot of information about accomodation, but it's hard to find comments about student environment and the quality of the education (which is most important to me). Neither have I been able to find anything about the professors (if they are nice, seem to know much etc).

Can you please "spoon-feed" me with some information about that?:)


/John

ninty9er

We're all here for the education, but the friends you make, the drunken parties, the bitching about " the eejit who...." is much more valuable to you than your degree ever will be.

Wendero

Hehe, I get it. I read something about first year courses not being counted for the final QCA (or whatever it's called)? True or not?

so, Ninty9er, what do you think about the education and so? Would you recommend Galway or Limerick, from an education perspective?:)

/John

ninty9er

Wendero wrote: »

Hehe, I get it. I read something about first year courses not being counted for the final QCA (or whatever it's called)? True or not?

This is true, you just need a basic pass, any A grades will not carry forward.

Wendero wrote: »

so, Ninty9er, what do you think about the education and so? Would you recommend Galway or Limerick, from an education perspective?:)

/John

I'm biased towards UL, but NUIG is a strong and long established institution. UL is an excellent overall student experience and you get a placement too which is a definite advantage.

Do you plan to stay in Ireland after you graduate? I can't help but notice you're non-native;)

Mossin

Wendero wrote: »

I can partly agree with that, Klong, still, I don't think such a thread (where you count up pros and cons) would be only for me - many people could get use of it. The "What you need to know about UL"-thread didn't seem very serious. Funny, but not very serious. Especially not if you're a teetotaller who likes to study;)

As we've pointed out if you want to see the pros and cons read the threads that are already available. There are more than enough comments about life in UL and Limerick in general.

The Don wrote: »

UL is great. End of story.

+1

Wendero wrote: »

What about study environment? Which place (dromroe, brookfield, plassey...) would be best if you want to study more than party?

If you want to study then you will make do with whatever surroundings you are in. Some people can study in a 6/8 person appartment/house, while others need a single/two person place, which in theory should be quieter.
Parties could happen anywhere, even next door to the supposed quieter place.

Wendero wrote: »

I'd probably join some clubs/societies. Is there anywhere I can see a list of what societies and clubs there are?

There is a link to the clubs and socs website from the UL homepage, and has been posted here by ninty9er. A simple search of the website would have enabled you to find it.

klong wrote: »

Do you have to be spoon-fed everything? :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

Wendero wrote: »

Haha, no, it is simply a question. If you don't want to answer to the question, please don't answer at all. Remember, other people could be reading this thread who may be asking this too. It's not like if you're only helping one person.

A lot of people view this forum without ever posting, and new people usually spend time reading and searching through older threads to find the information they want before starting a brand new thread asking for the same information again and again. That why threads are stickied!

Peteee wrote: »

Lads, if ye can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.
Or at least do it in the bitch thread!

The bitch thread is about daily life in UL, not to go and bitch about threads here, or people's responses.

Wendero wrote: »

I agree Peteee.

I looked up a lot of information about accomodation, but it's hard to find comments about student environment and the quality of the education (which is most important to me). Neither have I been able to find anything about the professors (if they are nice, seem to know much etc).

Can you please "spoon-feed" me with some information about that?:

If you want information on accomodation and comments on the study environment, have you checked the thread Where you live - Reviews??

Afaik, we are not allowed to comment here abut individual lecturers. [I'm sure Petee will clarify that for me]. But if you want information about lecturers why not email the course director, or PM people here who may have done the course you are hoping to do.

Personally the quality of lecturing in UL varies drastically. I've had some excellent lecturers, and some awful ones. But it doesnt detract from my degree or my level of study, because regardless of whether a college has lots of pros or cons, whether the educational standards are high or not, you will take what you want from the experience, and no amount of spoon feeding information will change that.

Wendero

Where do you usually get a placement? Is it related to the course, or could you theoretically end up at McDonald's?;)

Yes, I plan to stay if I can (depending on the job market).

/John

sceptre

Wendero wrote: »

Where do you usually get a placement? Is it related to the course, or could you theoretically end up at McDonald's?;)

You could theoretically end up almost anywhere. Of course, theoretically all placements are related to the course you're doing. Many of them are, although some of the larger courses (business, hpss etc) will have a good number of good placements directly related to the course while others will be only tangentially related. Life experience and all that - it's still a good way for most students of earning money for the next year (personally, I skipped my co-op placement in my current course, my weekend job at the time would have paid more and I couldn't afford to dump it).

It's a bit harder for some of the narrower courses to get good placements at times but that's getting better as well.

With a good QCA you shouldn't have a great deal of trouble getting a relevant job.

Wendero

Nice. What do you think about economics and math? is that a narrow or a broad field? I've always seen it as pretty broad, but I don't know...

How much do you earn (depends of course, but within what numbers would you say)?

Peteee

Mossin wrote: »

A lot of people view this forum without ever posting, and new people usually spend time reading and searching through older threads to find the information they want before starting a brand new thread asking for the same information again and again. That why threads are stickied!

The bitch thread is about daily life in UL, not to go and bitch about threads here, or people's responses.

Yeah, thats what I was getting at. Constructive criticism is all well and good, as you have here but sarcastic smiley replies are taking the piss a bit.

If you want information on accomodation and comments on the study environment, have you checked the thread Where you live - Reviews??

Afaik, we are not allowed to comment here abut individual lecturers. [I'm sure Petee will clarify that for me]. But if you want information about lecturers why not email the course director, or PM people here who may have done the course you are hoping to do.

Personally the quality of lecturing in UL varies drastically. I've had some excellent lecturers, and some awful ones. But it doesnt detract from my degree or my level of study, because regardless of whether a college has lots of pros or cons, whether the educational standards are high or not, you will take what you want from the experience, and no amount of spoon feeding information will change that.

Good advice here too. The reviews thread has many quality posts on accomodation, and all your answers have probably already been asked.

As for the lecturers I think mentioning them specifically is verboten in the charter.

As for spoon feeding, well you wont get far in UL if thats your modus operandi.

Good post Mossin

dK1NG

Peteee wrote: »

As for spoon feeding, well you wont get far in UL if thats your modus operandi.

All depends on the course imho...;)

Wendero

I don't expect to get all information directly at university. Anyway, the review thread was useful when it comes to accomodation. Thanks - finally someone who tells me what thread to look in (I've searched in the forums before, but I guess I'm not very good at it).

/John

sceptre

Wendero wrote: »

Nice. What do you think about economics and math? is that a narrow or a broad field? I've always seen it as pretty broad, but I don't know...

It's narrow. Arts, HPSS or a general science degree are broad, economics and maths is quite narrow. Useful for demonstrating a general ability towards analytical matters though.

How much do you earn (depends of course, but within what numbers would you say)?

Personally I've no idea, it really depends on what field you go into so any guess would be bad guesswork. As a guide, you could ask admissions if they have details of what past graduates have earned in their first year after graduation (figures for graduating class of 2006/07 have just been completeted by the careers service) but E&M is a newish course as far as I know, if so it hasn't had any graduates yet.