3x09 - "It's Coming..." **SPOILERS**

Overheal

Synopisis:

Arthur Petrelli tells Flint and Knox to hunt down Peter and Claire; Sylar and Elle have a charged confrontation (mwahahaha...ahhh.); Suresh tests his new formula; Matt Parkman tries to wake Angela Petrelli.

Cable company is playing russian roulette with my channels: at random, 30% of the channels will just die, and never return for days. Today, NBC-HD was spared, but last week I missed Conan O'Brien. Mother Fúckers.

I found it to be a grand episode. Queue Faith coming in here to rant about Sylar being shirtless for half the episode.

hussey

Avg episode ... Slyar has completely turned around kinda stemmed from the last episode where Noah remarked he could transfer power ...

Also I seen his face beside the last page of the comic book .. me wonders

Shaping up to be a big bad fight off .....

Faith

Overheal wrote: »

Queue Faith coming in here to rant about Sylar being shirtless for half the episode.

I was kindly directed to this post and just want to say, while I haven't watched the episode yet, YAY SHIRTLESS!

Nervous Wreck

Yeah good episode this time. Hiro's storyline is annoying. Sylar's power revelation is annoying.... I'm guessing the eclipse will give Peter back his powers.... Next two episodes should be good good....!

11811

Faith wrote: »

I was kindly directed to this post and just want to say, while I haven't watched the episode yet, YAY SHIRTLESS!

oh dear here it goes.....:rolleyes:

Nervous Wreck

Cuddleworthy wrote: »

oh dear here it goes

Overheal

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Redisle

Hmm,
*(Possible spoilers in this post)*
It was a good episode overall but there was a couple of parts I didn't like..

Sylar being all nice to Elle and bringing up their "past" (which we just found out about in episode 8).. It really makes parts of last weeks episode seem like a crappy mid show rewrite.. Like that bit with Elle and Sylar last week was just thrown in there to facilitate this episode and a new path for Sylar.. It seems very false and out of character for Sylar..

The other thing I noticed is that Hiro and Ando found a 9th Wonders magazine in the comic shop with up date drawings of what they were doing.. How was this magazine still available and up to date with Issac Mendez dead for ages??? And that whole Hiro being 10 storyline is pretty irritating in general.

Another thing.. Anjela warns Parkman that he should get out of there.. Arthur was very dangerous etc yet when Arthur appears she manages to convince him to release her.. It was a bit strange that she of one apparent power could convince this massively powerful guy to release her so quickly..

Xyo

How stupid was the part where Hiro gets away. He has him by the head I can only imagine he wants to do something bad but oh no I need to go look at the picture on the rock for a good five minutes while they get away.

Faith

Cuddleworthy wrote: »

oh dear here it goes.....:rolleyes:

Quiet you! I meant it about that ass-kicking!

Yeah, Sylar had his shirt off but his hair was terrible and I didn't appreciate the skinny jeans. Other than that, it was an entertaining episode. Here's a screenshot of my favourite part:



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You can thank cuddleworthy for those!

CodeMonkey

I think Sylar killed the hulk and stole his powers indestructible pants.

Fysh

Guh, given that last week's episode was a desperate attempt to "lay groundwork" for this, I'm not exactly impressed. Another character from Season One given a stupid "setback" to avoid having to move the character forwards, more nonsense with Sylar actually being conflicted but fundamentally good (it's nice that his entire behaviour up to now has been established as due to Mommy Issues, since that basically turns him into Norman Bates), more actions that make no sense but conveniently serve the plot (Arthur Petrelli releasing Angela from the dream-prison), more of that god-awful "love story" with Chumpy McChumpFace and NoodleHair, more inconsistencies with what's gone before (so 9th Wonders is still being published, despite Isaac being killed in Season One? Also, side note but it's pretty pathetic that they'd translate the name of the comic into Japanese but keep the English internal text and the American reading convention rather than the right-to-left Japanese form), and more leaps of logic (clearly Claire must be the catalyst, because the guy who can't decide whether he's sociopathic with Napoleonic delusions or just someone who needed more hugs from his mommy said so, and he couldn't possibly be wrong or have lied, could he? Oh, and equally clearly Mohinder knows that the catalyst has to be stored in a living person because...oh, yes, that's right, the Greater Internet Bullsh*t Theorem). Oh, and the Sylar fanservice didn't feel at all crowbarred in. :rolleyes: (That being said, I suppose at least they should be credited with having an equal-opportunities fanservice policy, as if that makes it any better....)

I know they have to try and set up an ending for the volume as a whole, but for the love of god this was just plain bad. I'm sticking with it until the end of Volume 3, but frankly it would want to be wall-to-wall awesome for the next two episodes to make up for the astonishing amounts of crap that have gone before it.

eVeNtInE

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mewso

My Super Power is pedantry:-

Queue - where a line of people wait.
Cue (Theatrical) - A theatrical cue is the trigger for an action to be carried out at a specific time. It is generally associated with theatre and the film industry.

J-blk

Average at best - as mentioned already, the characters keep flip-flopping... one minute Elle wants to crispify Sylar, the next she's showing him lightning bolt tricks... Good Sylar just doesn't work and WTF is up with the Hiro storyline anyway?

And I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the end, as I'm guessing it's now gonna be "Save the catalyst, save the world" - FFS...

Agamemnon

I thought this one was pretty weak, with little happening. I LOL'd at the end though, when Arthur Petrelli was painting - with his hand in his lap fiddling with something and his eyes gone white, it looked like he was "at" himself.

DirkVoodoo

Its getting ridiculous...

If Clare is the catalyst how did Nathan's powers manifest when he was injected with the formula? Does being related to someone with powers but being genetically normal make the formula work on you?

If Angela knew the formula was too dangerous why did she think ripping the paper into two halves and storing them away would NOT come back to bite her in the ass. Ever heard of a shredder???

Why did Arthur, who we have seen will put family and friendship behind his vision of a better world, release Angela when he imprisoned her there because she was too much of a threat?

I like the way Elle went from sobbing suicide case to bouncy love interest in such a short time (in keeping with season 3). Also, the little "trick" she shows Sylar was pretty lame and the kind of writing I would expect from a six year old.

Matt Parkman and blondie's relationship is about as believable as Michael Jackson and Priscilla Presley. She loves him why? Because he said they were married in the future. I'll try that one next time I'm out, I imagine a swift slap to the face would be the outcome.

The ONLY thing I liked was the little shot at the end where it was cutting between the heroes and villains.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Once again, loved the episode...
Especially liked the whole Arthur, Sylar, Elle, Tracy, Knox and Flint vs. Angela, Nathan, Peter, Claire, Matt and Daphne thing they had going on at the end. It's probably safe to say HRG will side with Angela and Mohinder with Arthur.
My only question is what side the other characters Hiro, Ando, Meredith and the Haitian will side with?

Why do people keep saying two episodes left? I thought there was 12 episodes in Volume 3, which would mean 3 more episodes? No?

Also Starring LeVar Burton

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

The ONLY thing I liked was the little shot at the end where it was cutting between the heroes and villains.

But who are the real Heroes and Villains???
To be honest everyone seems a tad naive apart from Angela and Arthur, and I think both of them are Villains - I think everyone else is in the gray area and could go either way.

Nervous Wreck

DirkVoodoo wrote: »

If Angela knew the formula was too dangerous why did she think ripping the paper into two halves and storing them away would NOT come back to bite her in the ass. Ever heard of a shredder???

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Once again, loved the episode...

Y'know, you don't exactly live up to your username.....

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Especially liked the whole Arthur, Sylar, Elle, Tracy, Knox and Flint vs. Angela, Nathan, Peter, Claire, Matt and Daphne thing they had going on at the end.

Could you imagine that fight!? Here's my predictions:

Angela dreams that Arthur kicks her in the face. Arthur kicks Angela in the face.
Nathan flies up in the air. Sylar slams him against a wall.
Elle fries a powerless Peter to the point that he looks like my ma's terrible excuse for chips.
Claire gloats that she's invincible while Tracy laughs and freezes her solid.
Matt reads Knox's mind and then gets his skull caved in with a vicious dig.
Daphne ****in bails while Flint plays with his flamey hands and wonders why he's such an awful character when his power is so visually awesome....
I don't think the heroes will come out on top.....

Faith

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Could you imagine that fight!? Here's my predictions:

Angela dreams that Arthur kicks her in the face. Arthur kicks Angela in the face.
Nathan flies up in the air. Sylar slams him against a wall.
Elle fries a powerless Peter to the point that he looks like my ma's terrible excuse for chips.
Claire gloats that she's invincible while Tracy laughs and freezes her solid.
Matt reads Knox's mind and then gets his skull caved in with a vicious dig.
Daphne ****in bails while Flint plays with his flamey hands and wonders why he's such an awful character when his power is so visually awesome....
I don't think the heroes will come out on top.....

Awesome Shredder pic!

I don't know about your predictions. Going by past events, Sylar will be gearing himself up but Peter will punch him and knock him out, thus rendering him useless.

The rest could be correct.

Nervous Wreck

CaptainNegative wrote: »

But who are the real Heroes and Villains???
To be honest everyone seems a tad naive apart from Angela and Arthur, and I think both of them are Villains - I think everyone else is in the gray area and could go either way.

Agreed. Up until now though, Peter and Sylar have been the paradigms of their moral sides. Peter has always been unquestionably benevolent and Sylar equally malevolent. Apart from Peter's brief stint with evil (CONTRADICTED in "It's Coming..." when Arthur tells Sylar 'Your hunger isn't for killing its for power' - why would Peter then, having gained Sylar's power in the future try to kill future Nathan and present Angela? What would that satisfy in his hunger? Hmm... anyway, where was I... oh yes... apart from Peter's brief stint with evil...) he's still a picture of benevolence, but Sylar is now on team hero it seems... Guessing that Arthur will be somehow dispatched by the end of Volume 3, who will be Peter's anti-hero? Hmm.....

Ri_Nollaig

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Why do people keep saying two episodes left? I thought there was 12 episodes in Volume 3, which would mean 3 more episodes? No?

I count 4 more url=http://www.tv.com/heroes/show/17552/episode_listings.html?season=3&tag=season_dropdown%3Bdropdown]tv.com[/url

Nervous Wreck

Ri_Nollaig wrote: »

I count 4 more url=http://www.tv.com/heroes/show/17552/episode_listings.html?season=3&tag=season_dropdown%3Bdropdown]tv.com[/url

Season 3 comprises 2 volumes. The first of the two is "Villains" and runs 11 episodes (the last of these being "The Eclipse pt. 2"). The second of 2 volumes is "Fugitives" which starts at episode twelve of the overall season. IMDB lists 23 episodes in total for Season 3 which holds true to what I've just stated (which is to the best of my knowledge at the very least) and also mirrors season 1. Yay...

Ri_Nollaig

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Season 3 comprises 2 volumes. The first of the two is "Villains" and runs 11 episodes (the last of these being "The Eclipse pt. 2"). The second of 2 volumes is "Fugitives" which starts at episode twelve of the overall season. IMDB lists 23 episodes in total for Season 3 which holds true to what I've just stated (which is to the best of my knowledge at the very least) and also mirrors season 1. Yay...

well as the "volumes" just continue straight on from here other, who gives a shi.t?
tv.com says there is going to be 4 more episodes before the christmas break and maybe a chance for them to get their thumbs out for when it returns in Feb or whenever.

Mantel

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

. Apart from Peter's brief stint with evil (CONTRADICTED in "It's Coming..." when Arthur tells Sylar 'Your hunger isn't for killing its for power' - why would Peter then, having gained Sylar's power in the future try to kill future Nathan and present Angela? What would that satisfy in his hunger?

I thought Sylars hunger was for knowledge, he did the brain thing because it was the only way he could really understand them (and take their power) Claire being the only one to survive having the top of your head removed I haven't seen this episode yet so maybe they're doing U-turns again....

Nervous Wreck

Mantel wrote: »

I thought Sylars hunger was for knowledge, he did the brain thing because it was the only way he could really understand them (and take their power) Claire being the only one to survive having the top of your head removed I haven't seen this episode yet so maybe they're doing U-turns again....

They are indeed. It breaks down like this:

Season 1: Sylar is evil and removes his victims' brains so as to somehow absorb their ability.

Season 3: Sylar is evil and removes his victims' skulls so as to look at their brain and attain the knowledge to absorb their ability.

Season 3: Sylar isn't totally evil and removes his victims' skulls because he has a hunger for the knowledge of the workings of their abilities.

Season 3: Sylar isn't evil at all, he's just driven by his hunger to absorb other people's abilities but if he can do it without killing, he'd be very happy to because he doesn't actually crave the knowledge afterall. Just the powers.... Cohesive......

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Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Season 3 comprises 2 volumes. The first of the two is "Villains" and runs 11 episodes (the last of these being "The Eclipse pt. 2"). The second of 2 volumes is "Fugitives" which starts at episode twelve of the overall season. IMDB lists 23 episodes in total for Season 3 which holds true to what I've just stated (which is to the best of my knowledge at the very least) and also mirrors season 1. Yay...

Villains is a 12 episode story-arc and Fugitives is a 13 episode story-arc (could be the other way around, but either way that's 25 not 23).
There are plenty of sources for this, I just couldn't be bothered getting a link at the moment.

Nervous Wreck

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Villains is a 12 episode story-arc and Fugitives is a 13 episode story-arc (could be the other way around, but either way that's 25 not 23).
There are plenty of sources for this, I just couldn't be bothered getting a link at the moment.

Oh slick, even better! Well... if it starts getting back on track that is....

JaboHabo

tsk tsk tsk.

so in order to restore any empathy with our main characters they took all of Peter's powers and made Hiro even more stupid. That's clever.

Instead of promoting an interesting evolution vs creationist debate through the differing beliefs of Arthur and Angela Petrelli they pissed us off by dumping characters into two factions as they fight for an uncertain future. Why not have a big 'Who's side are you on?' thingy? That cudda been real cool.
Kring's story arc must have headed in the wrong direction and up his arse because the writers constantly make something a big deal in one episode and forget all about it in the next (Peter taking Sylar's power, Irish girl he loved so much he had to save the world). They make every character incompetent when it comes to using their power in an efficient manner (including Arthur who couldn't even dispose of Hiro and Ando).

Watching the show is like eating a sour bag of sweets that you'll feast on while they're there but leave a sh1tty taste in your mouth and they'll rot your teeth.

JaboHabo

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Agreed. Up until now though, Peter and Sylar have been the paradigms of their moral sides. Peter has always been unquestionably benevolent and Sylar equally malevolent. Apart from Peter's brief stint with evil (CONTRADICTED in "It's Coming..." when Arthur tells Sylar 'Your hunger isn't for killing its for power' - why would Peter then, having gained Sylar's power in the future try to kill future Nathan and present Angela? What would that satisfy in his hunger? Hmm... anyway, where was I... oh yes... apart from Peter's brief stint with evil...) he's still a picture of benevolence, but Sylar is now on team hero it seems... Guessing that Arthur will be somehow dispatched by the end of Volume 3, who will be Peter's anti-hero? Hmm.....

I reckon Peter's the root of every problem. He nearly blew up NY and nearly released a virus that killed the planet. Plus despite his amazing abilities he's completely abandoned his vocation as a nurse. What a c**t like.

Nervous Wreck

JaboHabo wrote: »

Plus despite his amazing abilities he's completely abandoned his vocation as a nurse. What a c**t like.

Hahahaha. Nice one.

Brianb8802

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Villains is a 12 episode story-arc and Fugitives is a 13 episode story-arc (could be the other way around, but either way that's 25 not 23).
There are plenty of sources for this, I just couldn't be bothered getting a link at the moment.

That includes two double episodes aswell. But yeah technically your spot on with 25

Overheal

More importantly, They wont be showing any more Knight Rider Episodes until January :pac:

I can only hope that by the other side of the Christmas, Heroes becomes a little easier to follow - right now its all over the ****ing place, and even I cant make sense of all of it. Probably because theres no sense to be had. Shame on them.

Sherifu

It was enjoyable but not great.

DeadParrot

Didn't Peter take Sylars power of 'understanding things' to figure out how everything was gonna happen?
Which is a different power that hunger for power.

azzeretti

On the 9th Wonders thing.....It isn't clear exactly "when" Hiro and Ando are. They could easily have ported back to the bowling alley around the time Issac was still alive. And because of this he created the comic. Still, he would have seen this back then in series one also, maybe Hiro missed that one back then!

Fysh

azzeretti wrote: »

On the 9th Wonders thing.....It isn't clear exactly "when" Hiro and Ando are. They could easily have ported back to the bowling alley around the time Issac was still alive. And because of this he created the comic. Still, he would have seen this back then in series one also, maybe Hiro missed that one back then!

So Hiro discovers that he has time-travel abilities. He then discovers a comic that seems to presage his words and actions. He then doesn't hunt down all back issues of this comic to find out any further clues it may have to offer. The creator of the comic is killed along the way, preventing any further information being provided. A full year after he first discovers his abilities, he stumbles across another issue of this comic which conveniently foretells current events.

I can get that they might have travelled back in time, but Hiro today has no excuse to not have tracked down and read the entire run of 9th Wonders. Unless he's completely stupid, that is. But then that seems to be an affliction that all the cast are increasingly prone to when the plot requires it...

Nervous Wreck

DeadParrot wrote: »

Didn't Peter take Sylars power of 'understanding things' to figure out how everything was gonna happen?
Which is a different power that hunger for power.

No point even trying man.......

azzeretti

Fysh wrote: »

So Hiro discovers that he has time-travel abilities. He then discovers a comic that seems to presage his words and actions. He then doesn't hunt down all back issues of this comic to find out any further clues it may have to offer. The creator of the comic is killed along the way, preventing any further information being provided. A full year after he first discovers his abilities, he stumbles across another issue of this comic which conveniently foretells current events.

I can get that they might have travelled back in time, but Hiro today has no excuse to not have tracked down and read the entire run of 9th Wonders. Unless he's completely stupid, that is. But then that seems to be an affliction that all the cast are increasingly prone to when the plot requires it...

Who says he didn't find every edition? The episode of the magazine he picked up in the most recent episode may have been known to the "adult Hiro" but to the "10 yo Hiro" its the first time he has seen it. Also, there may be many issues that, at the time, seemed disjointed from his current situation. That is, when Hiro was trying to stop an exploding man, an edition of 9th Wonders with him and Ando in a comic shop looking at an eclipse may have seem less important.

Fysh

azzeretti wrote: »

Who says he didn't find every edition? The episode of the magazine he picked up in the most recent episode may have been known to the "adult Hiro" but to the "10 yo Hiro" its the first time he has seen it. Also, there may be many issues that, at the time, seemed disjointed from his current situation. That is, when Hiro was trying to stop an exploding man, an edition of 9th Wonders with him and Ando in a comic shop looking at an eclipse may have seem less important.

So Adult Hiro finds, within the first few episodes of Season One, that this comic seems to document (sometimes in minute detail) the adventures and perils that he and Ando have faced. He decides to track down every copy, realising along the way that Isaac is dead and thus there may be some unexplained gaps in the predictions the comic makes. The exchange seen in the most recent episode would be a good example. For reasons unknown to anyone but himself, he doesn't bother telling Ando what he's found even though Ando is clearly involved.

I still don't see this version of Hiro being any less stupid. I know it's not a big thing, it's a tiny and contrived plot device, but it's just galling because it's such a clear example of how they're trying desperately to replicate what they got right in Season One while failing to make any of it coherent or internally consistent. (There may be a way in which the whole 9th Wonders thing is internally consistent, but they haven't told us yet...)

azzeretti

Fysh wrote: »

So Adult Hiro finds, within the first few episodes of Season One, that this comic seems to document (sometimes in minute detail) the adventures and perils that he and Ando have faced. He decides to track down every copy, realising along the way that Isaac is dead and thus there may be some unexplained gaps in the predictions the comic makes. The exchange seen in the most recent episode would be a good example. For reasons unknown to anyone but himself, he doesn't bother telling Ando what he's found even though Ando is clearly involved.

I still don't see this version of Hiro being any less stupid. I know it's not a big thing, it's a tiny and contrived plot device, but it's just galling because it's such a clear example of how they're trying desperately to replicate what they got right in Season One while failing to make any of it coherent or internally consistent. (There may be a way in which the whole 9th Wonders thing is internally consistent, but they haven't told us yet...)

It is best not to dwell on this as it is a very small part of the current story. However, it is worth noting that Hiro didn't remember that he even had powers, never mind how to use them, so it is conceivable that he doesn't remember seeing this episode of 9th Wonders before. Putting that aside (his memory loss at the hands of papa), he may still have found this very episode, after season 1, but found it irrelevant in his current situation (not to mention that it may be obsolete due to his ability to change the future).
This is all dependant on Hiro and Ando going back to before season one to escape papa Petrelli. Failing that, the only other plausable explanation(s) is that a) he is still spirit walking or b) someone else took over the 9th Wonders comic after Issac's death (which isn't that unlikely given the display of powers thus far!)

I think a lot of people are trying to nit pick before we see the final episodes!

He decides to track down every copy, realising along the way that Isaac is dead and thus there may be some unexplained gaps in the predictions the comic makes.

I may be wrong here (and I probobly am) but I don't remember Hiro ever being able to go to a point in Issac's comics intentioanlly. Which might imply that even if he tracked down all episodes he might not be able to do anything about it (like traveling to that point it time to sus out what Issac is on about) I need to stess that I haven't watch seaons 1 in a long while and don't remember if what I am saying is fact!

Shryke

I thought it was pretty great. It brought things together, it didn't have a mountain of plot holes, it kept me interested. I liked every bit of it save Hiros bit. If I could change any one thing I'd have removed his part from the ep and given more time to the others, it was utterly pointless, unless I'm missing something.
Suresh didn't even annoy me. He's good as an evil twisted kind of guy, and I always disliked his character along with all the scenes he's in.
Y'know what would really make my day? Kill off Peter.

unreggd

Nah, sure Peters Batman now
[no powers, but still beats supervillains]

The part with Hiro was crap
Made no sense really

Btw, anyone coulda done the comic [african guy, arthur, sylar, peter]
or even Isaac, its not the first time new works were found after his death

and we dont know what moment of time they're at

Shryke

I think we can assume they are in the present. They would have let on otherwise I think.
It was Isaac that had the comic book deal and no one else. The company printing the comics hired him as an artist not a pre-cog. It's safe to say it's his work. I guess the man did a lot of junk.
This is nit picking but now that it's mentioned... the thing with the pipe. How does Peter get a metal pipe loose just like that? Batman had a utility belt. Then the gas gets shut off five seconds after it spouts flame. And the two guys walk off? Thid just seems slightly thick. Leaving the gas flowing would have made more sense. Also how does he bend the metal pipe that's way over his head after he gets it loose somehow. And how does all the built up gas not cause an explosion. That stuff had to have been flowing for a good little while. Now I'm definitely nitpicking.

CodeMonkey

azzeretti wrote: »

On the 9th Wonders thing.....It isn't clear exactly "when" Hiro and Ando are. They could easily have ported back to the bowling alley around the time Issac was still alive. And because of this he created the comic. Still, he would have seen this back then in series one also, maybe Hiro missed that one back then!

This is all dependant on Hiro and Ando going back to before season one to escape papa Petrelli. Failing that, the only other plausable explanation(s) is that a) he is still spirit walking or b) someone else took over the 9th Wonders comic after Issac's death (which isn't that unlikely given the display of powers thus far!)

I think a lot of people are trying to nit pick before we see the final episodes!

I've seen a lot of badly thought out reasons posted by fanboys to explain the bad writing but you're just clutching at straws here if you think the writers are ever going explain why the comic is there. It looks to me like they are trying desperately trying to rejuvenate Hiro's popularity by giving him plenty of opportunity to yell YATA. It can all be explained by bad and lazy writing.

azzeretti

CodeMonkey wrote: »

I've seen a lot of badly thought out reasons posted by fanboys to explain the bad writing but you're just clutching at straws here if you think the writers are ever going explain why the comic is there. It looks to me like they are trying desperately trying to rejuvenate Hiro's popularity by giving him plenty of opportunity to yell YATA. It can all be explained by bad and lazy writing.

Firstly, I could take or leave this show, so FANBOY is a little harsh! Secondly, I will, without doubt, stop watching Heroes if they ignore the comic book over the closing episodes of this volume. They simply can't and I am sure they will explain it either by Hiro being back in the past or that he is still spirit walking.

BTW, I haven't seen anyone mention how the african dude could have got his head cut off. Remember Hiro could not get near him without him giving in, surely he would have foreseen Papa coming for ages. My bet is Hiro is still under.

Mantel

azzeretti wrote: »

BTW, I haven't seen anyone mention how the african dude could have got his head cut off. Remember Hiro could not get near him without him giving in, surely he would have foreseen Papa coming for ages. My bet is Hiro is still under.

It's like the painter dude. He forseen his death...

Fysh

Since I've been nitpicking thus far I may as well continue 9th Wonders, as presented in the show, is not a corporately-owned comic - Hiro found the publisher address at the back of the comic as Isaac's studio. This means that if Isaac is dead, it's not going to be easy for anyone else to continue publishing it. Unless the executors of his estate decide that there is some benefit to his legacy of artwork to let someone else produce artwork and publish it under the same name, it would be very unlikely to happen. Having precognitive abilities doesn't mean having the same art style as Isaac, so that's not a good enough reason to be allowed to take over the comic.

Anyway, I hope they try and explain it, but I suspect it'll just be ignored as another incident of crap writing...

Nervous Wreck

azzeretti wrote: »

BTW, I haven't seen anyone mention how the african dude could have got his head cut off. Remember Hiro could not get near him without him giving in, surely he would have foreseen Papa coming for ages. My bet is Hiro is still under.

Because its inconsequential. Firstly, Usutu being able to escape Hiro's attempts by painting them in advance is a load of ****e. If Hiro was less retarded/better at using his powers, he'd realise that he could easily sneak up on Usutu. Secondly, Arthur is infinitely more powerful than Hiro. There's a million different ways he could get the upper hand on Usutu.

Nervous Wreck

Sandor wrote: »

This is nit picking but now that it's mentioned... the thing with the pipe. How does Peter get a metal pipe loose just like that? Batman had a utility belt. Then the gas gets shut off five seconds after it spouts flame. And the two guys walk off? Thid just seems slightly thick. Leaving the gas flowing would have made more sense. Also how does he bend the metal pipe that's way over his head after he gets it loose somehow. And how does all the built up gas not cause an explosion. That stuff had to have been flowing for a good little while. Now I'm definitely nitpicking.

Yeah things like that ya sometimes jus gotta leave it be. It's fiction so **** it.....