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Trade-in values becoming rediculous...

  • 17-11-2008 11:38am
    #1
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I'm becoming increasingly annoyed by Gamestop and Game regarding the trade-in value being offered for games.

    When I was buying GoW2, I took Orange Box and COD4 with me as trade in. GameStop offered me just 14 euro for each of them. Popped into XtraVision next door and they were happy to give 30 for COD 4 and 20 for Orange Box...guess who got my business!

    Then on Friday, I walked into Game. They were giving (give or take a euro as cant remember exactly) 7 euro for Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3 and 8 euro for Super Paper Mario. That's just plain insulting tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Chumpski


    Theres huge profit to be made in this area so they are taking advantage big time. I dont trade in games anymore, id prefer to let them pile up in the corner than let the likes of game give me 5 euro and sell on for 40.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If I ever need to get rid of games, I just put them for sale on Adverts.ie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 599 ✭✭✭TheWitch06


    Chumpski wrote: »
    Theres huge profit to be made in this area so they are taking advantage big time. I dont trade in games anymore, id prefer to let them pile up in the corner than let the likes of game give me 5 euro and sell on for 40.

    I'm the same. I'd rather not trade in even a crappy game so the likes of Game can sell it for a whole lot more.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    If I ever need to get rid of games, I just put them for sale on Adverts.ie

    I'd always shop around with tradeins but would almost never trade in anything to Game or Gamestop...but it's just the barefaced cheek to offer such terrible prices that gets my goat :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    why don't people rent? Financially it makes a lot more sense. A guy in work is constantly buying games on release, playing them for about a month or 2 then trading them in and losing about 30% on what he paid for it.

    I've been renting all my games from gamesenders.ie since I got my PS3. It works out at around €7.50 per game and I get to keep them for as long as I want (needed for the likes of MGS4) If I like them enough that I'd play the MP, then I could just go and get the game second hand by that stage. Still making a saving on buying it new.

    So far I haven't bought any of the games I've rented as there is always another new game out that I'd rather be playing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭tman


    Dear god people, use adverts.ie!
    Cuts out the greedy middleman completely and both parties benefit from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    I was behind some chap in the queue in game a while ago, he was trading in 3 PS3 games (don't know which ones but I'm guessing they were possibly launch titles).

    They guy behind the counter goes "Ok, you can get 15 euro"

    Guy with games "each?"

    Game guy looking sheepish "No, in total"

    I checked the price of the second hand games on offer there and they were going for pretty huge chunks of change, I mean they must be making huge amounts on this line of business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,820 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Until we inform the average idiot, this is what they'll continue doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    +1 on adverts.ie

    It's no good whinging about Game and the like trying to make money off the backs of foolish people who trade games in with them...vote with your feet and either go elsewhere or sell them yourself on ads or eBay or whatever...more profit for you, better value for the new buyer, everyone's a winner except the rip off merchants...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Well I guess theres the added security that if the game doesn't work you can bring it back.

    Unless a game you buy off a guy face to fact is in absolutely perfect condition you can never be 100% certain it will work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Until we inform the average idiot, this is what they'll continue doing.

    Agreed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Becoming ridiculous implies trade in offers used to be good. I don't remember such a thing. Adverts FTW or XtraVision if you're in a rush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭ongarite


    I was in GAME and bought Fallout 3 for PS3 for €50.
    I had a browse of the used PS3 games section and there were 4 copies of Fallout 3 for €55 on the shelf. I was like WTF!!

    There is now a backlash form game developers and publishers against the likes of Gamestop & GAME. Look at the trend beginning this year with features only available in new copies, not available in used copies.
    GOW2 MP maps, EA Live Season in FIFA 09 & Madden, Fable 2 DLC and Rockband.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    silvine wrote: »
    Becoming ridiculous implies trade in offers used to be good. I don't remember such a thing. Adverts FTW or XtraVision if you're in a rush.

    Don't get me wrong, they have always been pretty poor, but I'm saying recently, they have become absolutely rediculous. They buy Unreal 3 for 7 and sell it again for 35-40.

    I don't think Adverts.ie is as great as everyone says either...I have had numerous problems with items arriving not as advertised. Game carts not saving properly, discs very badly scratched etc.

    Back on topic, my preferred method is buying from tesco on release day and trading it back to xtravision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Anyone know what HMV are like now they are doing trade ins? I'm guessing not great...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    If I ever need to get rid of games, I just put them for sale on Adverts.ie
    tman wrote: »
    Dear god people, use adverts.ie!
    Cuts out the greedy middleman completely and both parties benefit from it.
    Wertz wrote: »
    +1 on adverts.ie

    Aren't shills meant to get banned? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I traded in GTA4 last Friday in gamestop and got a miserable €17 for it. While I was queuing, a woman who was buying an XBox360 asked how much GTA4 was second hand. She was told that its €35 second hand.

    So gamestop are marking up my tradein by 100%, which is unreal.

    They also gave me €3 for Assassins Creed (the excuse there was that they had 128 of them second hand in stock in the back room!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,820 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Why did you not refuse this shoddy service, then?

    Bloody Irish eh? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    why don't people rent? Financially it makes a lot more sense. A guy in work is constantly buying games on release, playing them for about a month or 2 then trading them in and losing about 30% on what he paid for it.

    I've been renting all my games from gamesenders.ie since I got my PS3. It works out at around €7.50 per game and I get to keep them for as long as I want (needed for the likes of MGS4) If I like them enough that I'd play the MP, then I could just go and get the game second hand by that stage. Still making a saving on buying it new.

    So far I haven't bought any of the games I've rented as there is always another new game out that I'd rather be playing.


    I prefer to own my games but gamesenders is a good idea as long as you get the game you want though. My solution is to not trade them at all. They aren't really worth anything so I just keep them all in case I want to play them again.
    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, they have always been pretty poor, but I'm saying recently, they have become absolutely rediculous. They buy Unreal 3 for 7 and sell it again for 35-40.

    I don't think Adverts.ie is as great as everyone says either...I have had numerous problems with items arriving not as advertised. Game carts not saving properly, discs very badly scratched etc.

    Back on topic, my preferred method is buying from tesco on release day and trading it back to xtravision.

    Ask for pics.
    humanji wrote: »
    Aren't shills meant to get banned? :pac:

    They'd have to be reported though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    brim4brim wrote: »
    I prefer to own my games but gamesenders is a good idea as long as you get the game you want though. My solution is to not trade them at all. They aren't really worth anything so I just keep them all in case I want to play them again.

    Ownership is overrated. If I get a twinge to play a game released within the last few years somewhere will be selling it for next to nothing. There's no point spending full price for a game to play through it once and then use it as a rather crap shelf ornament.

    Usually though by the time I get nostalgic enough to want to play a game again computers have gotten powerful enough to emulate them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    I agree, L31mr0d... I traded GTA4 because I was bored with it. I traded Lost Odyssey because I was bored with it. I traded.... (see where I'm going with this?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Mr E wrote: »
    I agree, L31mr0d... I traded GTA4 because I was bored with it. I traded Lost Odyssey because I was bored with it. I traded.... (see where I'm going with this?)

    You didn't read my first post. You would save more money if you rented the game then if you bought it new and then trade it in. You also have to factor the time wasted trading the games, queuing in game shops, shopping around to see who will give you the most money, posting on adverts.ie and responding to peoples questions... This is time you could be using to game :D

    My rentals get posted in my letter box and are on the floor when I get home from work, ready to be played. I pass a post box on the way to work so I just pop it in the prepaid envelope and post it back when I'm done with it. It's efficient, cheap and reliable, I really don't understand why more people don't rent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭djkeogh


    The picture you paint sounds perfect but what are the realistic odds of getting the game you want in your post box on release day. It's perfect for older games or if you're willing to wait a few weeks for the frenzy for a new game to subside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    djkeogh wrote: »
    The picture you paint sounds perfect but what are the realistic odds of getting the game you want in your post box on release day. It's perfect for older games or if you're willing to wait a few weeks for the frenzy for a new game to subside.

    Well I don't care about playing the games on release day. I usually have 4 or more games on the go at the same time, and I always have a backlog to get through anyway. I've just added all the games that I want to play to a queue and when any of them become available they are sent to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    You didn't read my first post. You would save more money if you rented the game then if you bought it new and then trade it in.

    I was responding to your "Buying games is overrated" comment. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Mr E wrote: »
    I was responding to your "Buying games is overrated" comment. :)

    I don't get it, how does saying you like to trade games in prove that buying them is not overrated? :confused:


  • Company Representative Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Gamesnash.ie: Pat


    Mr E wrote: »
    I traded in GTA4 last Friday in gamestop and got a miserable €17 for it. While I was queuing, a woman who was buying an XBox360 asked how much GTA4 was second hand. She was told that its €35 second hand.

    So gamestop are marking up my tradein by 100%, which is unreal.

    They also gave me €3 for Assassins Creed (the excuse there was that they had 128 of them second hand in stock in the back room!)

    Game are offering €13.00 for GTA4 so €17.00 is not too bad when compared to it - come to us we will give you €20 ;) To be honest I would say that the €18.00 difference is a bit much BUT in fairness to all retailers of pre owned games most people do not consider when they first look at it that the €35.00 price has VAT built into it.

    Not too surprised at the €3.00 quote for Assassins Creed. There are thousands of them lying around both new and pre owned PLUS it is now out in platinum and not shifting from there either. They most likely will end up being sold for a fiver in a years time !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    take out the middle-man, sell on ebay or adverts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭aFlabbyPanda


    i've always got good prices on trade in from gamestop. An example was "midnight club los angeles", xtravision offered 17€ and gamestop offered me 40€. To me it seems if you trade within a month or so you get very good prices.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭fizzynicenice


    I spent a couple of years werkin in xtra-vision up untill recently and tbh they do give the best trade values for the most part, but everywhere u go they are making 100% + on your trade in. Trade only really works for those who buy brand new games constantly and complete and trade them within a month or so of release. After that your just coddin yerself that 5 of you old games are worth gettin Lego f**kin Indiana jones for half price


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,332 ✭✭✭311


    I can't stand gta4.

    If I sell it though ,then thats like saying "it's ok to buy crap games"

    It's not though ,they're crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,264 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    Normally dont trade but when i was buying Metal gear solid 4 I had a few wii games i was looking to get rid of.

    I had them up for sale on adverts for a while but some of them werent really moving all that well. I took two of them that no one had expressed interest in ( Crash of the Titans ,was looking for €20 i think, Mario and Sonic @ the olympics , looking for €25)

    Xtra-vision were offering me €38 credit for both

    Gamestop offered me €64 credit for both, so i got MGS4 for nothing plus i got a €4 voucher :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭Fnz


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    I don't get it, how does saying you like to trade games in prove that buying them is not overrated? :confused:

    Lol. He's on your side... backing you up... you silly sod. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    was offered e6.00 for assasins creed, from smyths!! i know its ancient but i jus had to laugh! id rather give it to one of my mates for nothing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    was offered e6.00 for assasins creed, from smyths!! i know its ancient but i jus had to laugh! id rather give it to one of my mates for nothing

    That's what I did with AS but he gave it back to me :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I usually keep all my games as I get a hankering to play old favourites again and its a waste rebuying 2nd hand versions if they're out of print, learned this lesson when i flogged my ps1 then spent ages trying to get the Resident Evil games and final fantasty 7 back years later ,I used to work in HMV so never paid properly for a game for nearly 5 years, just returned other stuff for them, ah good times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,797 ✭✭✭sweetie


    I use adverts and my work intranet and sometimes xtravision. They offered me 15 for ninja gaiden 2 and I managed to offload it in work for 25.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,820 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Not too surprised at the €3.00 quote for Assassins Creed. There are thousands of them lying around both new and pre owned PLUS it is now out in platinum and not shifting from there either. They most likely will end up being sold for a fiver in a years time !
    Thousands? Try over 6 MILLION :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Y2J_MUFC


    GAME in Limerick are selling Fallout3 new for 50, but its second hand for the a virtual steal...55 quid!!! ffs

    Also they've recently started hounding people in the shop. "Are you ok? Are you ok? Do you need any help?"

    I can imagine a parent getting railroaded into buying quite a lot. I generally don't trade in games, but if I do it, it'll be to Xtravision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭L31mr0d


    Fnz wrote: »
    Lol. He's on your side... backing you up... you silly sod. :D

    He wasn't backing me up. He was arguing that buying games then trading them is equivalent to renting them, as in both cases you don't end up owning them. I was highlighting that these 2 situations are not similar due to the benefits of renting that you don't get when you buy and trade.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    Y2J_MUFC wrote: »
    GAME in Limerick are selling Fallout3 new for 50, but its second hand for the a virtual steal...55 quid!!! ffs

    Also they've recently started hounding people in the shop. "Are you ok? Are you ok? Do you need any help?"

    I can imagine a parent getting railroaded into buying quite a lot. I generally don't trade in games, but if I do it, it'll be to Xtravision.

    Yeah they also hound me in GAME in the ILAC centre now, must be a new company policy. Its horrible and slighly creepy, I end up doing a circuit of the shop with the guy following me trying to catch up, really off putting. I don't mind them been helpful but it really feels like an ambush as soon as you walk in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭Fnz


    L31mr0d wrote: »
    He wasn't backing me up. He was arguing that buying games then trading them is equivalent to renting them, as in both cases you don't end up owning them. I was highlighting that these 2 situations are not similar due to the benefits of renting that you don't get when you buy and trade.

    Ok, well, I have to stop short of claiming to speak for Mr. E. :)

    I just thought you were both saying that, really, buying games a a premium, finishing them in a month and, either, trading them in at a significant loss or having them lie around for years before playing them again might not be the most efficient way of doing things; especially if you have a high game turnover. Better to use a service like gamesenders.ie. as that way you can keep enjoying a large number of titles without taking the same financial hit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Y2J_MUFC


    but it really feels like an ambush as soon as you walk in.

    Customer! Attttttack!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    What would Far Cry to go for??
    Xtra vision are the best but there deal for getting new games for free when you trade in 2 games is a bit rubbish.The list is new releases aswell.Say if you wanted Gears for free you'd probley have to trade in something like Dead Space and Fallout 3.Which your not gonna do..Might look into adverts.ie never thought of using that
    Until we inform the average idiot, this is what they'll continue doing
    one less idiot now:D

    ive started renting a lot aswell.Rent for a week and even then is too long.Finished fall out 3 story line in less than 2 days.About to finish Gears got it for a week on friday.Unless its like cod4 with brilliant multiplayer no point buying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Soby


    Mr E wrote: »
    I traded in GTA4 last Friday in gamestop and got a miserable €17 for it. While I was queuing, a woman who was buying an XBox360 asked how much GTA4 was second hand. She was told that its €35 second hand.

    ah man you should went to her and offered it to her for like 20/25 euro that way your happy,shes happy and no ***** are making money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 tetsuo_83


    Soby wrote: »
    Xtra vision are the best but there deal for getting new games for free when you trade in 2 games is a bit rubbish.The list is new releases aswell.Say if you wanted Gears for free you'd probley have to trade in something like Dead Space and Fallout 3.Which your not gonna do....

    HMV's trade in offer seems a bit better, trade in a new(ish) game, get this weeks new releases for €16.99.

    And Gamestops offer of trade in 2 games get a new release for €9.99 isnt as bad as you'd think, It says the games have to be over a certain value, but it turns out thats combined, I traded in Dead Space (worth €42 to them apparently) and some piece of crap PS2 Game (worth €4 to them) and it met their criteria... got LBP for €9.99, and my ass was broke so I welcomed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 Armedcor


    Do places like xtravision offer cash or is it only credit...cause I wanna get rid of LBP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭kendragon


    I went into town today to trade in Call of Duty 5: world at war on xbox360. Gamestop offered me €40.00 for it and Game (Limerick) offered a ridiculous €26.99 (its only a week old godammit). I'll be checking out Xtravision and Smyths when i drop the small man to school and I'll update this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,070 ✭✭✭Placebo


    these prices are ridiculous, some charge way more than others, think il set up a site where people can submit prices and so we dont have to walk to 10 stores or end up paying 20 euro more on a second hand game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭kendragon


    kendragon wrote: »
    I went into town today to trade in Call of Duty 5: world at war on xbox360. Gamestop offered me €40.00 for it and Game (Limerick) offered a ridiculous €26.99 (its only a week old godammit). I'll be checking out Xtravision and Smyths when i drop the small man to school and I'll update this.

    Went to Xtravision, They are offering a joke amount of €30 store credit for COD5. They also seem to be the most expensive for the new games.

    Also something I noticed was a big difference between same franchises. e.g. Gamestop in the Parkway S.C. Limerick was selling Gears of war 2 for €56.99 so I went back into their store in the city centre and bought it for €43.99. That's some crazy difference between the same name stores.


    I think a Trade in price thread or site that is updated constantly would be a great help to people.


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