Movies based on Religion but that you still enjoyed

MrDaithi

Constantine
Dogma
The Exorcist
The Omen
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade
The Da Vinci Code
Stigmata

Galvasean

Passion of the Christ.

Take that Jesus! :cool:

Whip him again! :pac:

Zillah

MrDaithi wrote: »

The Da Vinci Code

This is a troll, right?

Dades

Life of Brian!

pH

Royale with Cheese

Galvasean wrote: »

Passion of the Christ.

Take that Jesus! :cool:

Whip him again! :pac:

Damn, got there before me.

Slightly off topic, but speaking of that film. I have a few Christian friends, and it doesn't seem I'm allowed to criticise that movie for being shít, they take offense to that.

anti-venom

Lucifer Rising by Kenneth Anger. It's a real cult classic. I was initially attracted to this film by the soundtrack by the infamous/tragic Bobby Beausoleil (Manson family killer, still imprisoned). It's a bit basement level but oddly attractive.

Galvasean

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but speaking of that film. I have a few Christian friends, and it doesn't seem I'm allowed to criticise that movie for being shít, they take offense to that.

Well, what are your exact criticisms?

CerebralCortex

MrDaithi wrote: »

Constantine
Dogma - not based on religion afaik more of a piss take
The Exorcist - not based on religion horror movie
The Omen - not based on religion horror movie
Raiders of the Lost Ark - not based on religion but rather based on Indiana Jones
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade - same as above
The Da Vinci Code - who cares
Stigmata - who cares

You should be more carefull about what you say wrt Indiana Jones. :mad:

Royale with Cheese

It's been a long time since I saw it, but I mainly remember thinking the scene of him walking with the cross was millllllllllllles too long and the film was just boring in general. The shock value of the violence wore off pretty quickly.

Galvasean

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

It's been a long time since I saw it, but I mainly remember thinking the scene of him walking with the cross was millllllllllllles too long and the film was just boring in general. The shock value of the violence wore off pretty quickly.

All reasonable critiques, hardly offensive remarks.

rockbeer

The Last Temptation of Christ.

Religion doesn't get any better than this.

MrDaithi

CerebralCortex wrote: »

You should be more carefull about what you say wrt Indiana Jones. :mad:

Noted.

Actually the Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom plot also has religious foundation ... OK a wacky one but still one.

Pompey Magnus

"The Mission" is one of my favorite films. I still find the scene where Robert De Niro reads a passage from First Corinthians incredible.

EamonnKeane

"The Gospel According To St Matthew", Pasolini. Wonderfully made, by an atheist who presents Jesus as a rebel against injustice (he wanted Kerouac for the role!!) and quotes the gospel verbatim.

CerebralCortex

MrDaithi wrote: »

Noted.

Actually the Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom plot also has religious foundation ... OK a wacky one but still one.

No it has an Indiana Jones foundation like the rest of the movies.

Galvasean

Does Pulp Fiction count as religious because of 'Ezekiel 20:17'?

toiletduck

The Ten Commandments and eh National Lampoons Christmas Vacation.

Goduznt Xzst

Star Wars

Dades

You watch it over the weekend too?

I never remembered so many comparisons of the ways of The Force, to a hokey religion.

Rev Hellfire

Battlestar Galactica.

javaboy

The Man Who Sued God - oh wait you said enjoyed.

Calibos

I'm not sure I understand the question. Why as an atheist wouldn't I like films from the same genre as some of my favourite films like Lord of the Rings, Beowulf 3D and even Starwars?

MrDaithi

Calibos wrote: »

I'm not sure I understand the question. Why as an atheist wouldn't I like films from the same genre as some of my favourite films like Lord of the Rings, Beowulf 3D and even Starwars?

Because it's some sort of paradox, somewhere, or may be not.
But for once these stories are correctly classified as 'fictions'.

Dave!

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but speaking of that film. I have a few Christian friends, and it doesn't seem I'm allowed to criticise that movie for being shít, they take offense to that.

Remind them that it was directed by a Jew :pac:

barfizz

CerebralCortex wrote: »

You should be more carefull about what you say wrt Indiana Jones. :mad:

Constantine
Dogma - not based on religion afaik more of a piss take
The Exorcist - not based on religion horror movie
The Omen - not based on religion horror movie
Raiders of the Lost Ark - not based on religion but rather based on Indiana Jones
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade - same as above
The Da Vinci Code - who cares
Stigmata - who cares

All of the above films have a religious slant, so why dismiss them.

Constantine. why did you not comment, are you afraid???

Dogma - not based on religion afaik more of a piss take,
That is the whole point, the film identifies that if there is a god then there is also evil (according to they bible/church) so the point is about re-entry to heaven..

The Exorcist - not based on religion horror movie,
Not true, it is based on the exorcism, a well documented form of religious expression when medical issues such as epilepsy are encountered

The Omen - not based on religion horror movie
Read your bible and refer to revelations

Raiders of the Lost Ark - not based on religion but rather based on Indiana Jones
Which part of the old testament did you not read??? the ark of the covenant is described in great detail and also its power, or are you willing to accept that what is described is a load of wishful thinking (fantasy)
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade - same as above
yes i agree...

The Da Vinci Code - who cares
yes it is a load of rubbish, i actually agree

Stigmata - who cares
yes i agree look at padre pio, it has been proved that he was known to rip his own palms and get medication from his local pharmacist to maintain the illusion.

MrDaithi

I was to reply in the way you did "barfizz", thanks for saving me some typing.

Obviously, this topic isn't meant to be taken seriously as a debate.

And by "based on religion" I meant involving characters (God, Devil, Angles...) , objects (Graal ...etc...), and places (Heaven) related to religious scripture/beliefs, which is not limited to Christianity.

And such movies don't have to prove or disprove anything, nor be accurate, just entertaining and you enjoyed them.

In Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, is he not after retrieving a sacred "Shiva lingam" stone which is part of the "Adi Shankara" Stones that have mystical powers once reunited.

Anyways, I was interested in finding out if there were movies that I wouldn't know nor remember on top of my head.

So far nobody mentioned Schwarzenegger's "End of Days" ... pheeew.

And I think I've only seen "The Devil in Miss Jones" once many years ago

Redpunto

Not sure i understand the reasoning of posting in the agnostic thread. Why would you not like a movie just coz it had religion as a basis? I am assuming the OP had a point that just becuase you dont believe in a "god" then there must be some point to make as if he didnt relate it to religion it would have been posted in a more general thread.

MrDaithi

Redpunto wrote: »

Not sure i understand the reasoning of posting in the agnostic thread. Why would you not like a movie just coz it had religion as a basis? I am assuming the OP had a point that just becuase you dont believe in a "god" then there must be some point to make as if he didnt relate it to religion it would have been posted in a more general thread.

Well it's the Atheist & Agnostic board.

I'm an Atheist, if it's what I'm supposed to be called. I'm sure there is no supernatural, omnipotent deity of any sort that created nor rules anything, there is no afterlife what so ever. All this superstition, what ever religion where ever in the world, started thousands of years ago because of "our" general ignorance. This is just me here and I'm not trying to convince anyone.

But the idea that people do "believe" baffles me, like the majority of people , I guess, the indoctrination attempt started when I was a kid but for some reason even as a kid I couldn't believe all that pile of bull.

But I respect people and their opinions/beliefs, unless they are complete extremists/nutters and/or try to convince me otherwise on that subject. And, I will never try to convince them either that I am "right".

As an Atheist I find slightly paradoxical that I can appreciate movies that are more or less revolving around those beliefs that I know I completely bull. May be some Atheist people would not like such movies, apparently not from the answers above, may be some people don't care (I'd say the vast majority) that's fine too, and may be people do care but don't want to see/admit the religious underlying in these movies.

May be some of these movies were made because of some religious studio executives/producers that had profitability in mind but also spreading the good word of the Lord on some form or fashion. It might not be like going to church but a little reminder in the people's and "depraved" youth subconscious of the existence of God is better than nothing. You got to admit that Constantine, and Indy 1 and 3 are great showcase for Christianity, even if the Indys are made by someone of the Jewish faith... hey Moses and Jesus were Jews too.

javaboy

Redpunto wrote: »

Not sure i understand the reasoning of posting in the agnostic thread. Why would you not like a movie just coz it had religion as a basis?

Well I've noticed a huge amount of people who call themselves atheists/agnostics go beyond the realms of disbelieving and into the area of actively disliking religion. Maybe even to the point that they avoid religious themed films. For them maybe a film like the Ten Commandments is hard to stomach.

So it's a fair enough question to ask A&As which religious themed films they still enjoy. I'd say most people don't mind suspending disbelief for any film (religious or not) if it's a good film but there are some films which are rooted so much in religion, it must be hard for some A&As to enjoy them fully.

Dades

javaboy wrote: »

I'd say most people don't mind suspending disbelief for any film (religious or not) if it's a good film...

Indeed. TBH the only movie I wouldn't watch was Passion of the Christ. And only because from what I've heard I wouldn't be interested in watching the torture/violence involved.

Galvasean

Dades wrote: »

Indeed. TBH the only movie I wouldn't watch was Passion of the Christ. And only because from what I've heard I wouldn't be interested in watching the torture/violence involved.

Saw > PotC.

anti-venom

Dades wrote: »

Indeed. TBH the only movie I wouldn't watch was Passion of the Christ. And only because from what I've heard I wouldn't be interested in watching the torture/violence involved.

I saw this film in a cinema in Lima. The violence really got to the crowd. Some were crying uncontrollably, others were seething with rage and shouting insults at the characters. Every time Jesus received a lash the crowd would moan with empathy. I though at one stage it might even get out of hand and that the ushers might have to start hauling out people who had fainted. The whole scene was for me both disturbing and comical in equal measure.

Funnily enough I spoke to other people who had seen it the same week and they said that no such reaction occurred. With the audience I was in it was probably one of those group hysteria experiences triggered off by one upset individual.

Dades

anti-venom wrote: »

Funnily enough I spoke to other people who had seen it the same week and they said that no such reaction occurred. With the audience I was in it was probably one of those group hysteria experiences triggered off by one upset individual.

Maybe you went to the same viewing as a few coachloads of some Christian group!

Galvasean

anti-venom wrote: »

I saw this film in a cinema in Lima. The violence really got to the crowd. Some were crying uncontrollably, others were seething with rage and shouting insults at the characters. Every time Jesus received a lash the crowd would moan with empathy. I though at one stage it might even get out of hand and that the ushers might have to start hauling out people who had fainted. The whole scene was for me both disturbing and comical in equal measure.

Funnily enough I spoke to other people who had seen it the same week and they said that no such reaction occurred. With the audience I was in it was probably one of those group hysteria experiences triggered off by one upset individual.

Dades wrote: »

Maybe you went to the same viewing as a few coachloads of some Christian group!

Indeed. I've heard many stories of massed groups of people wailing with sorrow. When I saw it in the cinema nothing like that happened, nor did it happen when anyone I knew went to see it. I'm guessing Dades is correct in hypothesizing that the crowds full of people getting uncontrollably emotional were specific groups of Christians.
Luckily I avoided such groups*. I hate anyone talking in the cinema.

* Unfortunately some scrubber in the row behind me decided to answer her phone and have a chat with her Mam at one point.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S SUBTITLED DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN TALK OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!!!
*explodes*

For the record I taught the movie was okay. Not the best Jesus movie out there but it does have great production values for those with a strong stomach.

studiorat

The Name of the Rose

The 10 Commandments

Dades

studiorat wrote: »

The Name of the Rose

Great stuff!

I read the book this year and re-watched the movie after. Smashing.

studiorat

Dades wrote: »

Great stuff!

I read the book this year and re-watched the movie after. Smashing.

Umberto Eco = Top Man.

"Travels in Hyper-reality" is a great book of news paper articles etc wot he wrote...

Danimalito

Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LRIypcaIX4

Jesus Christ: If I'm not back in five minutes, call the Pope.

Zillah

Jesus Christ: If I'm not back in five minutes, call the Pope.

Genius.

jill_valentine

Danimalito wrote: »

Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LRIypcaIX4

My life has been incomplete until just now. Good... lord...?

komodosp

Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey!!!

midlandsmissus

Galvasean wrote: »

Passion of the Christ.

Take that Jesus! :cool:

Whip him again! :pac:

Is there any need to be so nasty, about anybody?

CerebralCortex

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Is there any need to be so nasty, about anybody?

I fairness that was a fairly gruesome scene regardless who it is.

midlandsmissus

CerebralCortex wrote: »

I fairness that was a fairly gruesome scene regardless who it is.

I know, seriously that scene was unbelievably long.

pH

I know it's been scathingly attacked here as "giving atheists a bad name" but I must say I'm quite a fan of that scene done "ala Benny Hill" - hint youtube - "benny hill passion christ" - probably best not to embed that one as some seem to find it genuinely offensive.

CerebralCortex

midlandsmissus wrote: »

I know, seriously that scene was unbelievably long.

Although the movie wouldn't be as good without that scene. Mel Gibson maybe a nut case trad catholic but he makes damn good movies.

Galvasean

midlandsmissus wrote: »

Is there any need to be so nasty, about anybody?

Is there any need to make such a comment on what was clearly a joke?

Rev Hellfire

pH wrote: »

I know it's been scathingly attacked here as "giving atheists a bad name" but I must say I'm quite a fan of that scene done "ala Benny Hill" - hint youtube - "benny hill passion christ" - probably best not to embed that one as some seem to find it genuinely offensive.

That was truly awesome !

Zillah

pH wrote: »

probably best not to embed that one as some seem to find it genuinely offensive.

Score one for liberty!

snip

Dades

Score one for dictatorship. :pac:

Sorry, Zillah.
Grossly offensive imo.
If people want to watch it google is their friend.