Scum Distribution ???

Raiser

Original post edited as to be fair it looks as though this one pre-dates the Limerick regeneration project.......

Below sentiments are unfortunately still true though; Limerick is definitely grim & these guys need customers - simple as.

- Related; I've had enough of Limerick - its just clear-cut and utterly indefensible. What a fcuking bleak, grey, miserable, dank, scum-dominated, fungus-hole.

Oh....and I hope the snorting, toking, injecting fools amongst you have enjoyed your part in this - congrats on your sad-cnut life-choices - w@nkers............

Mc Love

Morbid to say the least!

****ing scum have once again ruined this great city of ours

ninty9er

sparkysrovers wrote: »

****ing scum have once again ruined this great city of ours

They've ruined some family's life, but how have they ruined the city??

Overreact much??

Mc Love

How have they ruined the city?

Delusional much?

mud

what did i miss?

um7y1h83ge06nx

I think you're spot on Raiser.

This is a worry to all people that have houses in decent parts of Limerick.

Imagine people now in Kilteragh. They are concerned that the virus that is Limerick gang violence has spread to their estates. They worry will the Gardai be able to protect them. They worry if where they bought will decay, forcing house prices down in their area, the result being that they might not be able to move if they want to in the future.

This is what our politicians have given us. Does the local council want all of Limerick to become a sh!t hole??

Chong

This for one thing is an absolute disgrace:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1109/limerick.html

They are ruining this city!

the drifter

limerick was ruined along time before this shooting took place lads and ladies...

talkingclock

well said Raiser!

Pikasso

Is it possible Raiser was under the influence of a few Sunday night pints when he posted his vitriol at 23.48?

However, I agree with fact that it's a disgrace to house people in a place where the majority have worked hard for what they possess - people who try to instill manners, morals and respect in their kids and who expect to live amongst other like-minded adults.

As for Drifter's comments that "limerick was ruined along time before this shooting took place" - this apt from a guy that is located somewhere between dreams and reality

the drifter

[QUOTE=Pikasso;57850475
As for Drifter's comments that "limerick was ruined along time before this shooting took place" - this apt from a guy that is located somewhere between dreams and reality[/QUOTE]

he he well said....

Raiser

Jimmy Woulfe - Examiner wrote:

Gardaí are satisfied that the intended target was a known major drugs importer who also lives in Kilteragh with his girlfriend and has a villa in Spain, from which he recently returned. Shots were fired at the drug lord in the neighbourhood more than a year ago.

http://www.examiner.ie/irishexaminer/pages/story.aspx-qqqg=ireland-qqqm=ireland-qqqa=ireland-qqqid=77013-qqqx=1.asp

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talkingclock

so does that mean Garda knows that there is a criminal individual is living there? and they didn't do anything???

i wouldn't be surprised if that drug dealing vermin now gets personal security as garda know he was the target. the precious life of this valued member of our comunity is at danger and must be protected.

cancan

Whenever you think it's bad, it just gets worse...........

Why are these scum allowed do this to our city and its citizens?

It's beyond a disgrace these days how we let the rights of some scum overshaddow those of the decent law abiding people of our city.

The army should just go up and finish these gangs off.
I cannot see who would compalin.

Or we can give them all more free houses and allow them to clog up the legal system which has proven to be bloody inept in their duty to protect the public, time and time again.

BarryCreed

bring back hanging. hang the b**tards

Casperbhoy

BarryCreed wrote: »

bring back hanging. hang the b**tards

As the saying goes:

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"

Only the people of Limerick can solve this problem

BarryCreed

Unfortunately we hear judges, politicians and gardai remind us to "not take the law into our own hands", while they can't do much themselves in the meantime...:o

I love it. A known drug dealer living in Dooradoyle. He should be lynched, and shipped off to break rocks on a mountain somewhere...

Gryzor

BarryCreed wrote: »

A known drug dealer living in Dooradoyle.

the national drugs unit can't be everywhere lads, there's "real" police work to be done

LadyTBolt

The worst part about this is the gardai know exactly who did it.

talkingclock

BarryCreed wrote: »

A known drug dealer living in Dooradoyle.

from the indo:

He received serious facial wounds and lost an eye in the attack

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/shot-dead-because-he-looked-like-gangs--real-target-1530973.html

i'll keep my eyes open (no pun intented!) and try not to look like him if i have to walk through town in the late hours...

BarryCreed

It's boll*x though. I wouldn't be long getting summonsed for no tax, or a speeding ticket by the gardai, but a known drug dealer can tip away plying his "trade" in dooradoyle until proven guilty. He should be intimidated, and harassed by the Gardai, and given weekly hidings by the cops as well.

I see the advantage of vigilante groups, however illegal they may be...:mad:

I would join up with one in the morning...

old boy

yeah but sean citizen is a soft touch for the cops
drink 2 pints and drive
tax on the car is out 3 weeks because you lost your job and are juggling money,
them guys can do as they want
how many knackers do you see getting done for drunk driving
maby it is because the 1 crowd are in power for yonks
they can trash a house and get it re trashed
trash it again they get a new 1 in a different area
we trash ours we do it up ourselves
we do not get moved to a better area

j0605

BarryCreed wrote: »

It's boll*x though. I wouldn't be long getting summonsed for no tax, or a speeding ticket by the gardai, but a known drug dealer can tip away plying his "trade" in dooradoyle until proven guilty. He should be intimidated, and harassed by the Gardai, and given weekly hidings by the cops as well....

Exactly, Well said. The scum can do as they please:mad:

Amazotheamazing

Raiser wrote: »

Original post edited as to be fair it looks as though this one pre-dates the Limerick regeneration project.......

Below sentiments are unfortunately still true though; Limerick is definitely grim & these guys need customers - simple as.

- Related; I've had enough of Limerick - its just clear-cut and utterly indefensible. What a fcuking bleak, grey, miserable, dank, scum-dominated, fungus-hole.

Oh....and I hope the snorting, toking, injecting fools amongst you have enjoyed your part in this - congrats on your sad-cnut life-choices - w@nkers............

You know, in my three and a half years here, I've never seen you be anything other than maniacally depressed about living in Limerick. That's fair enough, but what's stopping you from leaving? Why are you spending year after year in a place you not only dislike, but positively hate. The world is a big place, and I'm sure you can find somewhere where you will be happy. Go, spread your wings, don't be one of those bitter old men who look back and wish they left when they had time to do it.

Taking clock, same applies to you.

Now, I'm not pretending Limerick is perfect, I'm as angry, saddened and depressed about the recent murder as anyone on here, but I'm fully aware that if I ever come to hate the place I'll jump on a flight and leave.

zuroph

+1 for vigilantes. limerick needs a batman.

BarryCreed

Limerick isn't the problem, Moyross estate isn't the problem, or Southill estate isn't the problem. It's some of the residents in them. F**king animals is all they are, a law unto themselves. I'm sick of all this bulls**t "...known to Gardai...".

"Ah sure, we can't be in two places at once" or "We don't have enough Gardai".

Ok. Fair enough if you can't be in two places at once, or don't have enough Gardai. Do what you got to do but do it in the right places. Too many soft touch stuff going on. Now I don't say the Gardai have an easy job for a minute, but it's high time society in general went "F**k this for once and for all". It's happening all over the place, not just LImerick.

Troublemakers can do what they like in school, and the teachers can't lay a finger on them.
Troublemakers can do what they like in society, and the Gardai can't lay a finger on them.

I bet if I had a tank of green diesel in my back garden and it was known to Gardai, they'd turn the flippin house upside down, while some piece of scum druggie lives it up in Dooradoyle and Spain. He should be ran out of it, and I have no sympathy for him or his family if that happens. Which hopefully it will....:mad::mad::mad:

I can see it now:

Garda: "You're doing 40 in a 30 zone. That will be a fine of €80. Licence please"

Me: "Ok. Here you go. When you've finished giving me my ticket, there's a "known drug dealer living down in Dooradoyle. Would you go down and knock on his door and check his tax and insurance and other things. Will you f**k...."

I'd probably get a suspended sentence for saying that....:mad::mad:

ninty9er

old boy wrote: »

yeah but sean citizen is a soft touch for the cops
drink 2 pints and drive
tax on the car is out 3 weeks because you lost your job and are juggling money,
them guys can do as they want
how many knackers do you see getting done for drunk driving

Go to the courthouse any given sitting day an I'm sure you'll see loads, in fact, you need not bother, as you can see it in the Limerick Post every week.

Come of it. The grass is always greener isn't it. You seem to be living horse but you're not seeing the grass.

TestTransmission

zuroph wrote: »

+1 for vigilantes. limerick needs a batman.

Come on, Robin, to the Bat Cave! There's not a moment to lose!

zuroph

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Wetbench4

These scumbags basically fight over who sells the drugs and who makes the money, so what i don't understand is what are they doing with this money. How are they laundering it without the cab noticing. Some of these guys are driving 80 or 90 thousand euro bulletproof cars and they are on the dole. Where is the cab?? It should be impossible for them to spend their ill gotten cash.

Amazotheamazing

Wetbench4 wrote: »

These scumbags basically fight over who sells the drugs and who makes the money, so what i don't understand is what are they doing with this money. How are they laundering it without the cab noticing. Some of these guys are driving 80 or 90 thousand euro bulletproof cars and they are on the dole. Where is the cab?? It should be impossible for them to spend their ill gotten cash.

CAB are currently investigating things in Limerick. They raided some solicitor's and accountants firms in Limerick over the summer.

topper75

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

CAB are currently investigating things in Limerick. They raided some solicitor's and accountants firms in Limerick over the summer.

Christ! someone works even slower than me? :eek:

Wetbench4

As bad as some solicitor's are, they don't run around shooting people. Maybe the cab need to get their priorities sorted out

Itsdacraic

Wetbench4 wrote: »

As bad as some solicitor's are, they don't run around shooting people. Maybe the cab need to get their priorities sorted out

:rolleyes:

They raided the offices of the solicitors and accountants who are defending the scumbags to try and gather information.

Amazotheamazing

Itsdacraic wrote: »

:rolleyes:

They raided the offices of the solicitors and accountants who are defending the scumbags to try and gather information.

I sincerely hope he was joking....

Yes, they are looking into where the money's gone and which solicitors and accountants are helping them hide it.

Topper, it's not an easy job to trawl through years and years of complicated files.

Helikaon

The problem lies with the chourts. How many of these guys have 30 or more previous convictions. The gaurds catch these guys,the judges fail to do justice.
When did Life become 15 years for a murderer.
Bring back the death penalty. There is no other solution. Fight fire with fire...

Itsdacraic

There was a stabbing up in Ballinacura this evening as well. Not sure of the details but I'm sure we can expect another few weeks of tit for tat violence.

Raiser

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

You know, in my three and a half years here, I've never seen you be anything other than maniacally depressed about living in Limerick. That's fair enough, but what's stopping you from leaving? Why are you spending year after year in a place you not only dislike, but positively hate. The world is a big place, and I'm sure you can find somewhere where you will be happy. Go, spread your wings, don't be one of those bitter old men who look back and wish they left when they had time to do it.

Taking clock, same applies to you.

Now, I'm not pretending Limerick is perfect, I'm as angry, saddened and depressed about the recent murder as anyone on here, but I'm fully aware that if I ever come to hate the place I'll jump on a flight and leave.

That's all true Amazo, to be honest I admire the positive posts on this Forum a lot more than I do the cynical, griping ones of the type I'm often guilty of...... Having said that though, I will say that "Hey! lets just ignore the menacing Elephant in the corner" sentiment that sometimes dominates around here is misguided, depressing and ultimately dangerous. Limerick has a pile of negatives that should be discussed and highlighted before being tackled head-on; not ignored on a daily basis while being left to fester, breed and multiply......We're having that plain fact illustrated for us almost every day now, with some paying a far higher price than others......

As for me? I'm not quite free to leave due to a number of circumstances..... The fact is though that if I had the opportunity, could rearrange a few variables and the means to pick up and leave, then I'd be long gone - especially now that I have children who are currently not being and probably never will be sufficiently protected by the State..........

- Back on topic though.........

As for known troublemakers living amongst us, I genuinely suspect that any significant drug-dealer who is living in a densely populated estate is doing so because they feel safer there - they can certainly afford 6 bedrooms and a tree-lined driveway. But know that they'd be shot in the head the second night they tried to sleep there. Given the relative isolation of the countryside, lack of people and activity to deter late night visitors, call the Gardai and potentially be witnesses in an investigation/prosecution and the distance a the 4/5 squad cars would have to travel to save them (ironic but true) they are happier living amongst the Citizens and the buffer zone they afford them :mad: - Its also a sad fact that last Sat. incident would have resulted in a dead criminal if his address was anywhere in rural County Limerick.

As for getting them out, rid, gone, why not just drive up to there house and ask them basic questions?

Nice car, about ~55K worth? How'd you buy that having not worked in 32 years? Oh and how did you pay for this house while you're at it???

Also - there is no way in hell that these Scumbags go to sleep at night without having access to weapons in the interests of their own self defence against their enemies. I say break down their front door every second night at 3.30am, search the house and locate them. Perhaps then they could become convicted criminals instead of being "known Drug Dealers" - F F S

- Another thing is that these people have no entitlement to a State supplied and maintained ESB or Bord Gais connection and to be allow to pay for a Sate service with the proceeds of crime gained from the misery of drug addicts, find an excuse and then cut them off, make up a particularly stubborn "fault" if you have to - 2 days and 22 candles later they'd be off to run their drugs empire from the south of Spain where all the UK drug dealing scum have had to retire to.....

Harpy

Raiser wrote: »

Nice car, about ~55K worth? How'd you buy that having not worked in 32 years?[/I] Oh and how did you pay for this house while you're at it???

Also - there is no way in hell that these Scumbags go to sleep at night without having access to weapons in the interests of their own self defence against their enemies. I say break down their front door every second night at 3.30am, search the house and locate them. Perhaps then they could become convicted criminals instead of being "known Drug Dealers" - F F S
.

If you think the big guys in these gangs are just driving round in 55k cars with no explanation for the money, you're very wrong. These guys aren't stupid(well the big guys anyway) like they're criminals and this what they grew up doing so they know how to do it well, they will have 'business cover and all sthat crap..Hopefully the CAB investigation will bring results and cripple them.

about raiding them everynight , i think its a great idea but i can guarantee you within the week these scumbags would be suing the state for harrasment, the joys of the society we live..

it's irritating as f*ck..i dunno im just really angry at this the way they say known drug importer was the target and he's sitting in his house happy out now , and a poor innocent guy dies!

Casperbhoy

What about possible solutions?

Maybe, we should form a prisoner exchange program with a country like Turkey / Poland or something.

They can send a 100 of theirs to our prisons, we send a 100 to theirs. They can deal with them as they see fit

That would soften their cough. The problem with the prison system here is that they are comfortable, surrounded by friends & family.They have no fear of the Irish penal system

zuroph

CAB has repeatedly seized bulletproof cars, and i believe went as far as to seize an entire house that was fitted out with elaborate security, bulletbroof windows etc the day before the intended user was to get out of prison. nicely done IMO, let them spend the money, then take it when its too late for a backup option.

Morpheus

Its simple.

Introduce legislation that treats criminal gangs under the same terrorism laws that allowed incarceration of terrorists during the troubles. Namely under the Offences Against the State Act.

Why has nobody thought of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offences_against_the_State_Acts_1939-1998

um7y1h83ge06nx

Morphéus wrote: »

Its simple.

Introduce legislation that treats criminal gangs under the same terrorism laws that allowed incarceration of terrorists during the troubles. Namely under the Offences Against the State Act.

Why has nobody thought of this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offences_against_the_State_Acts_1939-1998

I always thought the exact same thing.

I fully believe that these people are threats to the security of the state and it's people and their activities should come under that Act.

Fine Gael have mentioned that controversial (sic?) word 'internment'.

Charlie Flanagan said the Dáil should debate all options - including internment - to tackle armed criminal gangs.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1111/geoghegans.html

OTT or is it a case that desperate times require desperate measures??

cancan

Perhaps the Guards can post the names/addresses of the people behind this so that we can take the law into our own hands.

These people will get their day...

Casperbhoy

I think the government should definitely consider it.This scum have declared war on civilized society

As much as I would like to see some of them removed from the gene pool, Meeting violence with violence is not the solution in my opinion.

Raiser

cancan wrote: »

Perhaps the Guards can post the names/addresses of the people behind this so that we can take the law into our own hands.

These people will get their day...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered

Wikipedia wrote:

Hanged, drawn and quartered

Until 1814, the full punishment for the crime of treason was to be hanged, drawn and quartered in that the condemned prisoner would be:

1. Dragged on a hurdle (a wooden frame) to the place of execution. (This is one possible meaning of drawn.)[2] The more likely meaning of Drawn is the act of disembowelment. [3]
2. Hanged by the neck for a short time or until almost dead (hanged).
3. Disembowelled and emasculated and the genitalia and entrails burned before the condemned's eyes (this is another meaning of drawn—see the reference to the Oxford English Dictionary below).[4]
4. The body divided into four parts, then Beheaded(quartered).

Typically, the resulting five parts (i.e. the four quarters of the body and the head) were gibbeted (put on public display) in different parts of the city, town, or, in famous cases, in the country, to deter would-be traitors who had not seen the execution. After 1814, the convict would be hanged until dead and the mutilation would be performed post-mortem. Gibbeting was later abolished in England in 1843, while drawing and quartering was abolished in 1870.

topper75

zuroph wrote: »

CAB has repeatedly seized bulletproof cars, and i believe went as far as to seize an entire house that was fitted out with elaborate security, bulletbroof windows etc the day before the intended user was to get out of prison. nicely done IMO, let them spend the money, then take it when its too late for a backup option.

I'd rather the state got it's hands on the funds, not the ill-gotten goods. How do they pay for that gear? Cash? Where do they stash it? If it is bank funds - follow the trail and see how they launder it. What good is it to the state coffers to get hold of a bullet-proof car or windows?

Morpheus

Declare the parts of limerick which are troubled as being under martial law would be one solution, those criminals would then be subject to military law and all their civil liberties would be removed.

those arrested under the offences against the state act be placed in a closed maximum security prison.

The unfortunate issue with martial law is that you also remove the civil liberties of those innocents living beside these scumbags, they hide in plain sight. But im sure that if they started to be rounded up and taken off the streets that the locals would maybe see it as a temporary yet necessary evil.

Summary detainment with a minimum sentence of 15 years for carrying firearms whilst unlicenced would help.

Being the soft country that we are, the bleeding heart liberals will be up in arms about the lack of due process and the removal of civil liberties etc for these "deprived" people who had nothing better to do whilst growing up except get involved in gangs and murders and depravity and drugs and killings of innocents.

talkingclock

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Taking clock, same applies to you.

I'd would have left this depressing place years ago, trust me! Do you think it's fun living here??? Due to family reasons it's not that easy to leave that city. I hope I can do this next year.

Probably the biggest mistake of my life. Should have chosen a more civilised part of the world...

Amazotheamazing

talkingclock wrote: »

I'd would have left this depressing place years ago, trust me! Do you think it's fun living here??? Due to family reasons it's not that easy to leave that city. I hope I can do this next year.

Probably the biggest mistake of my life. Should have chosen a more civilised part of the world...

I don't think it's any fun being you here, but I suspect you are a "glass half empty" type of person.

talkingclock

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

I don't think it's any fun being you here, but I suspect you are a "glass half empty" type of person.

maybe. maybe living here made me this.