Raw 03/11/08 (Spoilers)

JP Liz

Special 3 hour show

World Heavyweight Champion Batista V Chris Jericho in a Steel Cage Match

The Miz & John Morrison V D-Generation X - Shawn Michaels & Triple H

Will Stephanie and Shane McMahon show up and heed Orton’s ultimatum (fire Adamle or Orton himself is going to walk) - Is Orton bound for SD??????

Mae Young has been confirmed to appear on Raw's three hour special

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They will showing a lot of footage of Raws of old too.

JP Liz wrote: »

Will Stephanie and Shane McMahon show up and heed Orton’s ultimatum (fire Adamle or Orton himself is going to walk) - Is Orton bound for SD??????

This will likely lead to a Team Adamle vs Team Orton Survivor Series match or even but very unlikely a Orton vs Adamle singles match at Survivor Series.

JP Liz wrote: »

Mae Young has been confirmed to appear on Raw's three hour special

Yesterday was the one year annivesary of Moolahs death btw. It looks like she'll be

in a kiss cam segment.

Rjd2

JP Liz wrote: »

Special 3 hour show

World Heavyweight Champion Batista V Chris Jericho in a Steel Cage Match

The Miz & John Morrison V D-Generation X - Shawn Michaels & Triple H

Will Stephanie and Shane McMahon show up and heed Orton’s ultimatum (fire Adamle or Orton himself is going to walk) - Is Orton bound for SD??????

Mae Young has been confirmed to appear on Raw's three hour special

Wonder who will win the tag match:rolleyes:
Anyways Orton to SD is not totally impossible, especially if they cant be arsed to explain Edges absence when he returns to screen, the y can send him over to Raw in exchange for Randy and never mention Edge’s time in hell. I cant imagine Orton would be to keen to go to Smackdown for obvious reasons though.

luckyjimbobs

Who wants to be another wwe entertainer held down by hhh

Dont all rush in at once boys plenty time to ruin peoples careers

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luckyjimbobs wrote: »

Who wants to be another wwe entertainer held down by hhh

Dont all rush in at once boys plenty time to ruin peoples careers

HOW DARE A MIDCARD TAG TEAM LOSE AGAINST HEADLINE WRESTLERS

*SHAKES FIST*

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god dam i hate wwe so much these days

so ****ing PG and some of the biggest wasters in wrestling

and a guy who loves himself so ****ing much

i hate to say it but i love to see HHH getting injured just for somthing different

i hate what happened to Y2J at cyber sunday

and the title on a glorified bodybuilder makes me sick

Rjd2

There is a thing called interference? The Miz and Morrison get a win which could give them a huge rub which would not make DX look weak thus building up their individual feuds.

rovert

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

god dam i hate wwe so much these days

so ****ing PG and some of the biggest wasters in wrestling

It being PG shouldnt make WWE hatable.

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

and the title on a glorified bodybuilder makes me sick

Hulk Hogan must be rolling in his grave.

rovert

Rjd2 wrote: »

There is a thing called interference? The Miz and Morrison get a win which could give them a huge rub which would not make DX look weak thus building up their individual feuds.

People here seem to think if Miz and Morrison dont double pin DX and leave them bloodied they are getting BERRIED. The tag team is getting the rub off DX, fans of them should be happy that they are in a feature match on Raw.

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rovert wrote: »

It being PG shouldnt make WWE hatable.

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but it contributes to it

with the likes of John Cena etc

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{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

but it contributes to it

Explain?

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

with the likes of John Cena etc

He is still a fine main event wrestler.

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rovert wrote: »

Explain?



He is still a fine main event wrestler.

i personally think that john cena is only there for the kids

he's marketed towards them

most people hate him because is character is quite boring and stupid and only really appeals to young kids


His signature moves are either just regular moves with taunts or moves that you would see 9 year olds doing while watching wrestling in their living rooms :
-FU(Poor mans Death valley driver)
- 5 knuckle shuffle(Poor mans peoples elbow a fist drop w/a taunt)
-STFU


suppose it not all his fault

wwe has shoved him down our throats

rovert

You still havent answered my question about it being PG.

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

i personally think that john cena is only there for the kids

he's marketed towards them

cant really explain it

His signature moves are either just regular moves with taunts or moves that you would see 9 year olds doing while watching wrestling in their living rooms :
-FU(Poor mans Death valley driver)
- 5 knuckle shuffle(Poor mans peoples elbow a fist drop w/a taunt)
-STFU

suppose it not all his fault

And? How can they be a poor mans whatever when Cena is marketable? Was the Peoples Elbow a poor man's Legdrop?

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

wwe has shoved him down our throats

Ill never understand this view when it comes to Cena.

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rovert wrote: »

You still havent answered my question about it being PG.

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i remember the attitude era

that compared to now is such a change

basically wwe needs to be PG

vince wants it to be a family show

so the kids buy action figures and WWE kids magazines!!

Eric Bischoff"

Go back and look at what WWF was delivering in terms of content and ratings in the early 90s before NITRO forced WWF to abandon their “family entertainment” strategy and adapt the “Attitude” strategy. 18-49 year old men who are looking for the “Nitro Moments” or “Attitude Era” rush are going to get a softer, kinder, gentler and more cartoonish presentation.

"

rovert

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

i remember the attitude era

that compared to now is such a change

American culture has changed if they continued down that road the company would in a much worse position as it would have lost all major sponsers and likely kick off TV. The Attitude Era was a short term fad, get over it.

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

basically wwe needs to be PG

vince wants it to be a family show

so the kids buy action figures and WWE kids magazines!!

What is wrong with that extactly?

WWE isnt PG programming, it is bad PG programming. Good PG programming like that of WWF in the 80s has well defined characters and easy to understand, well crafted stories. Which is the basis for the best Wrestling television and one I would welcome.

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rovert wrote: »

American culture has changed if they continued down that road the company would in a much worse position as it would have lost all major sponsers and likely kick off TV. The Attitude Era was a short term fad, get over it.

suppose your right there By changing the rating to PG in WWE programming, it will be easier for USA Network

what are the ratings like these days out of interest

what does wwe need to do to get back to the good old days

maybe if tna did somthing f-ing new and genuinely exciting stuff
bring some kind of competition

dsmythy

I'd say Miz and Morrison will get the win because of interference. They need to ramp up the Kozlov/HHH match and get the fans behind HHH even more. Nothing better than ruining a DX match to do that.

Both Shane and blonde Steph should be there for the Adamle/Orton part of the show.

I wouldn't be shocked if Jericho reclaimed the title back tonight. Jericho's reign was too short. Two steel cage match wins for him, who knows.

rovert

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

what are the ratings like these days out of interest

2.9 to 3.2 in other words middling to poor. Although this judgment is hard to make as Television viewership is in a state of transition with Tivo (DVR) and watching online.

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

what does wwe need to do to get back to the good old days

People's "good old days" is usually the Wrestling they grew up with. You better buy the John Cena time machine when WWE comes out with it.

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

maybe if tna did somthing f-ing new and genuinely exciting stuff
bring some kind of competition

Well they are Attitude Era revisited.

dsmythy

{(-_-)}HeadShoT** wrote: »

suppose your right there By changing the rating to PG in WWE programming, it will be easier for USA Network

what are the ratings like these days out of interest

what does wwe need to do to get back to the good old days

maybe if tna did somthing f-ing new and genuinely exciting stuff
bring some kind of competition

Maybe Vince needs to let go of some of his control.

rovert

dsmythy wrote: »

I wouldn't be shocked if Jericho reclaimed the title back tonight. Jericho's reign was too short. Two steel cage match wins for him, who knows.

Dave Meltzer kind of hinted at that this morning, WWE does know it was too early to take it off Jericho and it was too soon for Batista to win it. This mainly based on crowd reactions on at last week's Raw. BUT taking the title of Batista this early will make him look weak. So they booked themselves in a hole.

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rovert wrote: »

Dave Meltzer kind of hinted at that this morning, WWE does know it was too early to take it off Jericho and it was too soon for Batista to win it. This mainly based on crowd reactions on at last week's Raw. BUT taking the title of Batista this early will make him look weak. So they booked themselves in a hole.

probly going to be outside interference

JBL probly

Vince135792003

rovert wrote: »

Good PG programming like that of WWF in the 80s has well defined characters and easy to understand, well crafted stories. Which is the basis for the best Wrestling television and one I would welcome.

I think if the people who are complaining now went back in time and watched WWE in the 1980's many would still be complaining too except it would be Hulk Hogan and not John Cena who would take the abuse.

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Vince135792003 wrote: »

I think if the people who are complaining now went back in time and watched WWE in the 1980's many would still be complaining too except it would be Hulk Hogan and not John Cena who would take the abuse.

People were more complaining over the difference in match quality between WWF and NWA back then and generally not the Writing.

reanimator

JP Liz wrote: »

Special 3 hour show



Mae Young has been confirmed to appear on Raw's three hour special

Oh mu god i was gona ask on the smackdown thread was she still alive, i guess so.

rovert

Low Ki is meant to have a dark match tonight.

flahavaj

rovert wrote: »

Low Ki is meant to have a dark match tonight.

Didn't they say he worked too stiff after those matches he had back in 2001-ish?

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flahavaj wrote: »

Didn't they say he worked too stiff after those matches he had back in 2001-ish?

Yeah and it is 2008

Also signed to a contract and backstage according to PWInsider:

Goldust

:rolleyes:

flahavaj

rovert wrote: »

Yeah and it is 2008

Also signed to a contract and backstage according to PWInsider:

Goldust

:rolleyes:

He hasn't altered his style in that regard though in the last seven years, I doubt anything will come of it.

rovert

Workrates ahoy:

A 16 diva tag has been added to the show.

amacachi

rovert wrote: »

A 16 diva tag has been added to the show.

Sweet Jesus.

flahavaj

Cibernetico cometh.:pac:

rovert

Big angle and return spoiler, they may build the show around this so be warned:

PWINSIDER is reporting that Orton's in ring return is tonight and it is against CM Punk

:eek:

Vince135792003

rovert wrote: »

People were more complaining over the difference in match quality between WWF and NWA back then and generally not the Writing.

I have older friends that watched both (late 80's who were in their mid-teens then) and as I reminissed about how much I loved WWF back then (I would have been about 5) they said they preferred the NWA not only for the wrestling but because it was less child orientated in terms of feuds.


I think the same "older generation" of fans that don't like Cena now would not like Hogan then because it's a character not really tailored for them while in contrast I see with the class I have kids, both boys and girls who hang on his every move.

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Vince135792003 wrote: »

I have older friends that watched both (late 80's who were in their mid-teens then) and as I reminissed about how much I loved WWF back then (I would have been about 5) they said they preferred the NWA not only for the wrestling but because it was less child orientated in terms of feuds.

With putting on the old rose coloured glass storylines in both WWF & NWA were often better, had more contituty that the WWE has today which is pretty much my point. How WWF & NWA delivered there storylines were different but they similar in solid storytelling.

Rjd2

MVP loses:eek:

FeetMagic

Any live stream?

Red Sleeping Beauty

FeetMagic wrote: »

Any live stream?

Wouldn't mind a pm meself actually. It's late and won't be sleeping for another while.....

Kid Nothing

I'm all for nostalgia at these kinda things but watching Mae Young beat up 8 divas and then fall over throwing a punch hasn't even been the worst part of the show........Kung Fu Naki leading a dance routine!!!

amacachi

I went for a **** during that Divas match, did I miss anythin towards the end?

ShaneU

Another pointlessly long Cena hype trailer, as if anyone doesn't remember him.

FeetMagic

Can someone PM me an online stream of this please?

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cena not even back and he has a shot at the title at survivor series :rolleyes:

i should stop watching raw

JP Liz

New World Heavyweight Champion Chris Jericho

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JP Liz wrote: »

New World Heavyweight Champion Chris Jericho

thank god

FutureGuy

Some more spoiler news pertaining to Survivor Series...

Jericho v Cena at Survivor Series. They have a perfect opportunity for Batista to screw Cena over here, and set them up for a great WM fued.

Kid Nothing

Made up for the rest of the show being pure muck.

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amull87 wrote: »

Made up for the rest of the show being pure muck.

How so?

EdK

Seeing the brief Bret Hart pop was fantastic, will they ever learn?, Bret is in France now anyway haha, Priceless

Speaking of priceless confusing couple of segments

EdK

They gave away JBL vs Undertaker aswell, oh no!!

Kid Nothing

rovert wrote: »

How so?

Well from my point of view cause I like to see Jericho as a champion and can't stand Batista.

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amull87 wrote: »

Well from my point of view cause I like to see Jericho as a champion and can't stand Batista.

You comment related to the rest of the show being muck. I just looking for what stuff in particular you didnt like.