Done for no tax.

Dave147

VRT'ed my car last Wednesday before work and due to the jazz weekend etc I left off taxing it till I had time, needless to say I was pulled by a right awful wanker of a guard Sunday afternoon on my way to work. He asked me smugly for my letter from customs (hadn't put the plates on yet) I gave him the receipt of VRT paid and showed him my licence and insurance cert. he asked me why the car wasn't taxed, I told him I had every intention of taxing it but hadnt yet due to work. He fined me for having no tax, only without it 2 and a half working days btw. I paid the tax yesterday, which was a bank holiday, tax paid for all of October despite car being Irish as of the 22nd.

So what I'm wondering is if I don't pay and go to court will the judge throw it out due to back tax being paid immediately and employment of common sense on his behalf.. I'm not paying the fine regardless.

ninty9er

Dave147 wrote: »

VRT'ed my car last Wednesday before work and due to the jazz weekend etc I left off taxing it till I had time, needless to say I was pulled by a right awful wanker of a guard Sunday afternoon on my way to work. He asked me smugly for my letter from customs (hadn't put the plates on yet) I gave him the receipt of VRT paid and showed him my licence and insurance cert. he asked me why the car wasn't taxed, I told him I had every intention of taxing it but hadnt yet due to work. He fined me for having no tax, only without it 2 and a half working days btw. I paid the tax yesterday, which was a bank holiday, tax paid for all of October despite car being Irish as of the 22nd.

So what I'm wondering is if I don't pay and go to court will the judge throw it out due to back tax being paid immediately and employment of common sense on his behalf.. I'm not paying the fine regardless.

You may get a sympathetic judge. However the Garda was doing his job correctly as you have no right to drive a car untaxed at ANY time. There is no "I just bought it" grace.

TriciaDelicia

Most of the time if the tax is backpayed the judge will throw it out. I know cos it happened to me last year.

Yakult

tbh just pay the fine. It mightent work out for you in the court and get slapped with something bigger.

jhegarty

I can't see any judge doing you for tax 2 1/2 days over due

TriciaDelicia

Sorry was wrong there thats just with the irish tax

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

VRT'ed my car last Wednesday before work and due to the jazz weekend etc I left off taxing it till I had time the end of the month so I didnt have to pay for OCT.

Fixed that for you.

Anan1

Dave147 wrote: »

VRT'ed my car last Wednesday before work and due to the jazz weekend etc I left off taxing it till I had time, needless to say I was pulled by a right awful wanker of a guard Sunday afternoon on my way to work. He asked me smugly for my letter from customs (hadn't put the plates on yet) I gave him the receipt of VRT paid and showed him my licence and insurance cert. he asked me why the car wasn't taxed, I told him I had every intention of taxing it but hadnt yet due to work. He fined me for having no tax, only without it 2 and a half working days btw. I paid the tax yesterday, which was a bank holiday, tax paid for all of October despite car being Irish as of the 22nd.

So what I'm wondering is if I don't pay and go to court will the judge throw it out due to back tax being paid immediately and employment of common sense on his behalf.. I'm not paying the fine regardless.

Taxing a car online takes less time than it took you to type this post. If you're apologetic in court then the judge might well let you off, seeing as you did tax the car in the end. Go in with an attitude of 'the law doesn't apply to me and the Garda's a w@nker for thinking it does' though, and you'll in all probability get a bigger fine.

jhegarty

Stekelly wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

he would still have to back tax it , so I don't see your point

Guy:Incognito

jhegarty wrote: »

he would still have to back tax it , so I don't see your point

The whole point of leaving till the end of the month is so it can be declared off the road for that month by getting the RF100 signed by the gards.

ninty9er

Stekelly wrote: »

The whole point of leaving till the end of the month is so it can be declared off the road for that month by getting the RF100 signed by the gards.

Imagine it was the same Garda behind the desk:D:D

unkel

Dave147 wrote: »

I was pulled by a right awful wanker of a guard

No need for that kind of language. The Garda was just doing his job. That's a warning BTW.

Anan1

Poor Dave, only nine days ago he was feeling a lot more bullish about not paying his taxes:

Dave147 wrote: »

Wow, big deal he's avoiding a tax we shouldn't have to pay in the first place. I've saved a few grand on VRT also, in fact my motor is still on NI plates..

SV

Anan1 wrote: »

Poor Dave, only nine days ago he was feeling a lot more bullish about not paying his taxes:

oh very nice.

jhegarty

Anan1 wrote: »

Poor Dave, only nine days ago he was feeling a lot more bullish about not paying his taxes:

lol, I retract all my posts in support of the op

Quint

Anan1 wrote: »

Poor Dave, only nine days ago he was feeling a lot more bullish about not paying his taxes:

****ing brilliant!:D

Guy:Incognito

So thats the 2 and a half days stretched out to 9 days now at least ( I'd wager it's a good bit more since I doubt the post anan quoted was the day he imported it).

ninty9er

Check out ol' Dave's sig

Do we have a match??

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1233984

For Sale is 1998 Audi A4 1.9TDi 110 Quattro finished in very rare Kingfisher Blue with 18" RS8 alloy wheels rear lip spoiler and an S4 front bumper with kamei grille and all Quattro badges. Car has 8 disc CD Changer Leather Sports Steering Wheel Centre Arm-Rest Climate Control and A/C Cruise Control All electric windows Electric Sunroof new clutch fitted all belts replaced fully serviced new steering rack. All work to be done has been done by me no expense spared. Car will be fully valeted before being sold non smokers car well looked after tyres 80%. Car is currently on NI reg unfortunately I have no means to pay the VRT so car's price reflects this VRT is 850 euro. Previous owner was an avid Audi enthusiast as you will see from the car but unfortunately lost the service book. Again why the car will be sold for around 5k one of a kind and one of the only tdi's of this model with quattro she really is a dream to drive..

Esel

Anan1 wrote: »

Poor Dave, only nine days ago he was feeling a lot more bullish about not paying his taxes:

Pwned, tbh. :pac:

Guy:Incognito

Carzone Ad wrote: »

but unfortunately lost the service book.

In the Irish sea?:D

Eoin

nice find Anan1!

Dave147

Anan1 wrote: »

Poor Dave, only nine days ago he was feeling a lot more bullish about not paying his taxes:

Yeah I still feel the same, I'm intelligent enough to know that they're cracking down on it so I cleared it before I was hit with a fine, no problem paying motor tax and tbh I hadnt thought about dodging October, if wanker is language it should be censored no? I have no intention of paying the fine, the guard was so smug and so sure of himself, he asked me for my customs letter hoping I didn't have one, he just wanted to do me for something.

Disclaimer: I have absolutely no regret or remorse for dodging VRT, so you're wasting your time throwing that in my face, the quote from me was a trollish post if you didn't figure it out, it wouldve been pretty stupid of me to write that if I didn't intend on promptly paying that ridiculous tax afterwards. Anyway I have no reason to lie to any of you, I had every intention of paying the tax pretty quickly but seeing as I hadnt even got the plates up I thought any reasonable guard would understandvthat it was being looked after promptly.

jhegarty

This is a fun game , anyone beat 30/8/08...

http://blah.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57087958&postcount=301

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

0 no problem paying motor tax and tbh I hadnt thought about dodging October,.

? You've been dodgeing it since, whats the running count Jhegerty?, the end of August at least.

Dave147 wrote: »

I had every intention of paying the tax pretty quickly but seeing as I hadnt even got the plates up I thought any reasonable guard would understandvthat it was being looked after promptly.

Why should he be reaosnable if your not? Either way, It's been a minimum of 6 weeks, I think thats plenty reasonable on his

Dave147

Oh yeah, my old man covered the VRT for me for my 23rd, cars also not for sale anymore, nice find all the same but I'm not that dodgy. I should probably take the ad down, service book was lost by previous owner alright don't know how exactly but car checked out fine. Some of you have far too much time on your hands..

Dave147

jhegarty wrote: »

This is a fun game , anyone beat 30/8/08...

http://blah.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57087958&postcount=301

I fail to see what you "found" here?? I had intended to buy a petrol A4 but can't afford one..

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

Some of you have far too much time on your hands..

Same amount as yourself it seems, you've been on the thread the whole way through.

ninty9er

jhegarty wrote: »

This is a fun game , anyone beat 30/8/08...

http://blah.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57087958&postcount=301

May 08....read the text in that link....same day VRT me arse:rolleyes:

brayblue24

Dave147 wrote: »

I thought any reasonable guard would understandvthat it was being looked after promptly.

Based on what exactly?

Dave147

Stekelly wrote: »

So thats the 2 and a half days stretched out to 9 days now at least ( I'd wager it's a good bit more since I doubt the post anan quoted was the day he imported it).

Where are you getting 9 days? Wednesday I paid the VRT, pulled on Sunday, 2 and a half working days, unless you can explain how to tax a UK car in Ireland? I also dont see how I'm pwned?

ninty9er

brayblue24 wrote: »

Based on what exactly?

The fact it took him 5 months to pay his VRT:D:D

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

Where are you getting 9 days? Wednesday I paid the VRT, pulled on Sunday, 2 and a half working days, unless you can explain how to tax a UK car in Ireland? I also dont see how I'm pwned?

Tax is suppoed to be paid from the day after it's imported (ie when it's vrt'd) so the count starts from then, not if and when you decide to register the car. Anyway, it's well established by now we are talkign about a lot longer than 9 days anyway.

Dave147

brayblue24 wrote: »

Based on what exactly?

Yeah you're right there, just because I intend to pay it doesn't mean a guard is going to believe me, lads I'm lost with these links from my carzone ad. VRT wasn't paid at the time because I couldn't afford to pay it (reason I was selling..)

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

Yeah you're right there, just because I intend to pay it doesn't mean a guard is going to believe me,

and why should he. Who the hell is going to tell him they just werent bothered but decided to break the law and drive it anyway?



Incidentally, I'll hold my hand up on the VRT score and let it be known I waited longer than legally allowed. I brought my car in on a Sunday night and it was around 3 on Tues afternoon before it was VRT'd.

Dave147

I thought I made it clear I dont regret dodging the VRT, I know the consequences if I get caught, I didn't but it was only a matter of time before I did. So my old fella gave me the cash and I owe him half back. Right, try again.

Dave147

Stekelly wrote: »

and why should he. Who the hell is going to tell him they just werent bothered but decided to break the law and drive it anyway?



Incidentally, I'll hold my hand up on the VRT score and let it be known I waited longer than legally allowed. I brought my car in on a Sunday night and it was around 3 on Tues afternoon before it was VRT'd.

I love reading your posts, can't help but picture you as an angry man behind your computer, every time I see a post by Stekelly I expect it to be an attack on the op and I'm usually correct. Didnt I just agree about a guard not believing an excuse about tax, why do you bring it up again when I've already made the point.

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

I thought I made it clear I dont regret dodging the VRT, I know the consequences if I get caught, I didn't but it was only a matter of time before I did. So my old fella gave me the cash and I owe him half back. Right, try again.

We're talkign about tax here though, which you say you have no problem paying. Having a car that cant be taxed does not mean you gain some moral victory because you would pay tax if you could (woe is me, the evil government overlords are oppressign me)

Guy:Incognito

Dave147 wrote: »

I love reading your posts, can't help but picture you as an angry man behind your computer, every time I see a post by Stekelly I expect it to be an attack on the op and I'm usually correct. Didnt I just agree about a guard not believing an excuse about tax, why do you bring it up again when I've already made the point.

Well seeing as a good chunk of threads involve people whinging and moanign about some part of the law they were caught breaking, I dont see what the problem is with calling a spade a spade. People are big and bold enough when flouting laws but very quick to start throwing toys out of the pram when caught by the authorities.

brayblue24

Dave147 wrote: »

VRT wasn't paid at the time because I couldn't afford to pay it (reason I was selling..)

Think you're on a serious loser here, mate. Reckon I'd quit now....

Dave147

They're two separate entities though, I am all for paying my taxes, any Irish car I've owned has been taxed, ive never been unemployed or on the dole so ive paid alot of tax and got nothing back per se, the VRT is a different story, not looking for any moral victory, just trying not to give away free money too easily, as I said I'm well aware of the consequences so your arguing with me over not paying it is null and void, to me anyway. So you know this much about me, am I really going to pay my VRT just so I can tax her? Hells no!! I have that car ages, long before May 08, I fail to see how any of you can catch me out when I'm not lying about anything.

@Stekelly I take your point but I'll get over my crimes.

Dave147

brayblue24 wrote: »

Think you're on a serious loser here, mate. Reckon I'd quit now....

Right.. And how you work that out exactly?

brayblue24

Dave147 wrote: »

Right.. And how you work that out exactly?

Get off your high horse and read the posts. You're admitting to dodging taxes. Nobody likes paying taxes whether we agree they are just or otherwise but to come on here and persist with your moral crusade despite not one person agreeing with anything you have to say-why are you even bothering? What's to be achieved?

Dave147

I'm sorry I dodged VRT mister. I'm not on any moral mission buddy, I didn't bring up dodging VRT in this thread, I asked nothing about VRT, I dont care if you dont agree with me really, i admit driving for a period on foreign plates, big fking deal, I got away with it and probably wouldn't have for much longer, not trying to boast just glad I saved a few quid off those thieving scum, I should probably be locked up, I'm a danger to tax payers.

Voodoomelon

Anan1 wrote: »

Taxing a car online takes less time than it took you to type this post. If you're apologetic in court then the judge might well let you off, seeing as you did tax the car in the end. Go in with an attitude of 'the law doesn't apply to me and the Garda's a w@nker for thinking it does' though, and you'll in all probability get a bigger fine.

You can't tax a car online if you just brought it through, you have to use a form.

I was in my tax office paying my tax in May, queued for half an hour, got up to the counter and your man told me I had to have a Garda stamp saying the car was off the road for ONE WORKING DAY. I nearly jumped over the counter and stabbed him with his pen. Had to drive to a Garda station and back through miles of traffic, I told the Garda what he said and he just said "Jesus" and shook his head.

I was trying to give him €1150 and he wouldn't take it, absolute arse.

Go on, someone say it, he was doing his job...

SV

He was doing his job.

brayblue24

Well maybe Iwon't bother then....

boardsie08

Priceless!

Major pwnage!!

It's car crash internetz at it's best.

*dig dig dig*

Dave147

As far as that guard knew I had only brought in the car, didn't ask me anything he just took the time to pull me over so I suppose he was obliged to do something, I'm not upset about it, wanted opinions but the thread was hijacked by bitter customs officials apparently. I was pulled due to my plates btw, was doing the speed limit.

Dave147

boardsie08 wrote: »

Priceless!

Major pwnage!!

It's car crash internetz at it's best.

*dig dig dig*

Try reading the thread instead of making a retarded post which in turn makes you look like a retard..

I'm STILL struggling to see where this pwnage is coming from..?

Voodoomelon

I've some sympathy for you Dave. You can be sure theirs hundreds of twisted truths by members on here every week and you never find out about them....

Dave147

brayblue24 wrote: »

Well maybe Iwon't bother then....

Yeah its getting a bit boring for me too I enjoyed the replies though.