Time to make Taxi drivers bargain against each other?

Saskia

With another imminent increase due in the next week or so isnt it time we treated this sector like rival independant shops looking for our money?

When the increase happens and it changes what it would cost you to get home how about we offer a taxi driver what we think the journey is worth? If you think Im crazy then think about it; would a driver rather sit on a rank for an hour making no money or would he rather take a fair that is worth 15 euro, with the new charges, on the metre or the flat fee of 12 euro you're offering?

I think with enough people doing it to them they'll do the latter.

Mark200

Could work....but the majority of people wouldn't be bothered and just take the first taxi they can get

oztots

I reckon its a decent idea, till you get sozzled and you empty your wallet and mumble bring me home.

Wake up safe and at home, minus that 50 quid that was for food for the week.

connundrum

Is there not something whereby all taxis on a meter have to have the same basic rate?

I don't think it'd make a difference tbh, however I do think that cars which are in poor condition i.e. a worn out 1996 Nissan Almera, should charge less for the journey.

**++** But Thats Only My Opinion **++**

4zn76tysfajdxp

I only choose taxis after two rival drivers have a fight to the death, and then I pick the surviver. It's the only fair way I can think of.

Saskia

Ernesto Scrawny Reporter wrote: »

I only choose taxis after two rival drivers have a fight to the death, and then I pick the surviver. It's the only fair way I can think of.

Dont let Simon Cowell or a US Television executive near this thread.

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Saskia wrote: »

Dont let Simon Cowell or a US Television executive near this thread.

Why not? If that was on tv I'd watch it.

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connundrum wrote: »

Is there not something whereby all taxis on a meter have to have the same basic rate?

No, the regulator only regulates the maximum fare.

http://www.taxireg.ie/consumer/fare-information/what-is-a-maximum-fare.html

oztots wrote: »

I reckon its a decent idea, till you get sozzled and you empty your wallet and mumble bring me home.

See above

Guy:Incognito

If you have them competing on price you have to then get rid of the rule that says they have to take you where you want to go and not refuse a fare. They would have to be allowed refuse your business should they not want to go to where your goign or if they plain just dotn fancy moving.
These things have to work both ways.

Ernesto Scrawny Reporter wrote: »

I only choose taxis after two rival drivers have a fight to the death, and then I pick the surviver. It's the only fair way I can think of.

You'd be better off chosing the loser. That way you get a free car.

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Stekelly wrote: »

If you have them competing on price you have to then get rid of the rule that says they have to take you where you want to go and not refuse a fare. They would have to be allowed refuse your business should they not want to go to where your goign or if they plain just dotn fancy moving.
These things have to work both ways.

Within the current regulations they can compete on price? They just choose not to.

RobertFoster

Ernesto Scrawny Reporter wrote: »

I only choose taxis after two rival drivers have a fight to the death, and then I pick the surviver. It's the only fair way I can think of.

Yes! Bbuuuuuurrrr AH! Bbuuuuuurrrr AH! Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g82yZXXpxY8

Volvoboy

Really?

There will be murder on the ranks.

Biggins

Sooner or later with price hikes, the number of times anyone will consider getting a taxi in any one month, will decline for sure.
Some are shooting themselves in the foot to a certain extent if they over do price hikes - that said, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one side you have the big oil companies charging high despite the price of oil dropping, the cost of public liability insurance has sky rocketed, and then the tax hikes, etc.
So where does that leave the driver? Pulling his hair out in stress as far as I can see.

BLITZ_Molloy

There are waaay too many taxi drivers on the roads in most of the country. I'd say they'll do discounts. I'm about a mile and a half out of town and they often only charge me a fiver.

meathstevie

Let's not forget that the current pricing structure is over 2 years old. A hell of a lot of prices for other goods and services have increased quite substantially over that period.

Btw, why don't you go and haggle with the ESB and Bord Gais as well ? They have regulated prices as well. The only difference between the taxi regulator and the energy regulator is that one asks how high when the service providers say jump.

Guy:Incognito

meathstevie wrote: »

The only difference between the taxi regulator and the energy regulator is that one asks how high when the service providers say jump.

and what way does the enrgy regulator work?

shenanigans1982

meathstevie wrote: »

The only difference between the taxi regulator and the energy regulator is that one asks how high when the service providers say jump.

Do you provide your passengers with this comedy as a standard when they get in your taxi?

meathstevie

No, I just assault them, rob their money and than drop them at least 5 mile away from their destination....

Seriously now, why do you accept price increases from the likes of the ESB, Bord Gais, Sky, Pat the Baker, Texaco, etc, etc and does there always have to be a whinging session when one particular service gets a price increase ?

shenanigans1982

meathstevie wrote: »

No, I just assault them, rob their money and than drop them at least 5 mile away from their destination....

Seriously now, why do you accept price increases from the likes of the ESB, Bord Gais, Sky, Pat the Baker, Texaco, etc, etc and does there always have to be a whinging session when one particular service gets a price increase ?

Because they all probably provide a better service than Taxi Drivers.....Taxi's are probably in a battle with NTL when it comes to the title of worst service provider in the country.

arse..biscuits

meathstevie wrote: »

No, I just assault them, rob their money and than drop them at least 5 mile away from their destination....

Seriously now, why do you accept price increases from the likes of the ESB, Bord Gais, Sky, Pat the Baker, Texaco, etc, etc and does there always have to be a whinging session when one particular service gets a price increase ?

No whinging when ESB or Bord Gáis put up there prices? Of course there is.
My sky package hasn't increased since I got it 3 years ago.

Biggins

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Because they all probably provide a better service than Taxi Drivers.....Taxi's are probably in a battle with NTL when it comes to the title of worst service provider in the country.

Now, now... Perlico I'm told has that title.

Saskia

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Taxi's are probably in a battle with NTL when it comes to the title of worst service provider in the country.

+1

But unlike NTL there's thousands of the f*ckers to let them bargain against each other

Taxi Gladiators on Sky FTW.

Ruu_Old

How much to the city centre?
10 euros
WHHHHHHHAAT?!?! Yer man behind you is doing the same route for half that!:eek:

Haggling would be great fun altogether.

Saskia

Ruu wrote: »

How much to the city centre?
10 euros
WHHHHHHHAAT?!?! Yer man behind you is doing the same route for half that!:eek:

I really think its do-able if enough of us start, er, doing it.

If you have a long rank of taxis are they really going to stay loyal to their "mates" in the current economic climate? Most will, but there's always the few.

meathstevie

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Because they all probably provide a better service than Taxi Drivers.....Taxi's are probably in a battle with NTL when it comes to the title of worst service provider in the country.

Can you back that up with any evidence, even anecdotal ?
For example : when was the last time you felt like you had to make a complaint to either the Taxi Regulator or the Gardai ?

Or like many people you get in the car they tell their stories about bad experiences and when asked whether they done anything about it without exception the answer is : No.

How do people expect a service they deem to be below standard to improve if they don't even bother following a simple complaint procedure. You don't even have to use an internal so called "customer service" department like you would have to do with the likes of Perlico and NTL. There's an independent government agency out there to handle the complaint for you. The only thing you have to do is go through the trouble of contacting them.

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meathstevie wrote: »

Can you back that up with any evidence, even anecdotal ?

Here are some from a recent thread, with the exception of the first one which is from a different, even more recent thread:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57719692&postcount=1

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57670428&postcount=30

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57672968&postcount=43 = This one is from somebody DEFENDING taxi drivers!

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=57680092&postcount=86

I don't mind taxis btw, they're lovely for getting me home when I really need it/am drunk. I'm just presenting what other people have said.

anonymous_joe

Their profits have been eroded massively and their costs are increasing constantly. Taxis won't get cheaper. Deal with it.

Gumbo

Saskia wrote: »

With another imminent increase due in the next week or so isnt it time we treated this sector like rival independant shops looking for our money?

When the increase happens and it changes what it would cost you to get home how about we offer a taxi driver what we think the journey is worth? If you think Im crazy then think about it; would a driver rather sit on a rank for an hour making no money or would he rather take a fair that is worth 15 euro, with the new charges, on the metre or the flat fee of 12 euro you're offering?

I think with enough people doing it to them they'll do the latter.

what do you mean another increase? the fares havent been increased in 2years! can you say that about the bottle of milk you bought yesterday??

EamonnKeane

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the_syco

Meh. I use taxi's when I'm drunk. I know a few who use them when they're drunk.

Taxi's work out cheaper than not being able to drive for 10 years cos a copper caught you 3 times over the limit...:pac:

arybvtcw0eolkf

Saskia wrote: »

With another imminent increase due in the next week or so isnt it time we treated this sector like rival independant shops looking for our money?

When the increase happens and it changes what it would cost you to get home how about we offer a taxi driver what we think the journey is worth? If you think Im crazy then think about it; would a driver rather sit on a rank for an hour making no money or would he rather take a fair that is worth 15 euro, with the new charges, on the metre or the flat fee of 12 euro you're offering?

I think with enough people doing it to them they'll do the latter.

You seem to think Taxi drivers work in that industry for a hobby. It doesn't occure to you that their providing a living for themselves and a family?.

The Taxi Regular ran an extensive advertisement campaign asking for the publics input into taxi fares, should they be increased, descreased or stay the same. Did you make contact with their office?, and if so what happened. If not, why not?.

Taxi threads get tiring, mostly because they originate from ignorance of an industry.

Taxi regulators contact details.

Oshare Bones

meathstevie wrote: »

No, I just assault them, rob their money and than drop them at least 5 mile away from their destination....

Seriously now, why do you accept price increases from the likes of the ESB, Bord Gais, Sky, Pat the Baker, Texaco, etc, etc and does there always have to be a whinging session when one particular service gets a price increase ?

Because Irish taxi fares are already among the highest in the world. Compare your fares to spain, germany, usa, india, china, etc and you'll see what I mean.

blahblah06

people do realise this is the only increase we have had for years compared to your annual yearly increase use get? grow up

SimpleSam06

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Their profits have been eroded massively and their costs are increasing constantly.

Yeah, god forbid they should get a qualification and a real job of some description.

I keed, I keed, I know people who are unable to control their drinking need them.

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SimpleSam06 wrote: »

Yeah, god forbid they should get a qualification

They have one: a driving license. Surely that entitles them to some sort of protected status?

SimpleSam06

Zainab Muscular Starter wrote: »

They have one: a driving license. Surely that entitles them to some sort of protected status?

You're right by George! And so difficult a qualification it is to achieve that fat wads of cash are deserved!

Saskia

blahblah06 wrote: »

people do realise this is the only increase we have had for years compared to your annual yearly increase use get? grow up

Annual increase? My sector hasnt had an increase in 3 years, I know others in different industries that havent had one in 5. So think before you type.

The bottom line is you're a despised sector and a necessary evil. You have increased your fares at a time when people are losing their jobs and yet you complain when you cant make a living.

Bless.

the_syco

Oshare Bones wrote: »

Because Irish taxi fares are already among the highest in the world. Compare your fares to spain, germany, usa, india, china, etc and you'll see what I mean.

LOL. Compare the cost of tax, insurance, etc, and you'll get a fairer price. Oh, and how many of thos countries don't have a limit on how old your taxi can be?

motherfunker

A taxi company in my town put out flyers offering all local runs now €5, no extra charges. Some of the companies were a rip off, especially the black drivers, yes I said it, the black drivers, becuase they were the bastards who tried to charge people €18 for a €10 run.

Saskia

the_syco wrote: »

LOL. Compare the cost of tax, insurance, etc, and you'll get a fairer price. Oh, and how many of thos countries don't have a limit on how old your taxi can be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9qGcSQEWL0

blahblah06

Saskia wrote: »

Annual increase? My sector hasnt had an increase in 3 years, I know others in different industries that havent had one in 5. So think before you type.

The bottom line is you're a despised sector and a necessary evil. You have increased your fares at a time when people are losing their jobs and yet you complain when you cant make a living.

Bless.

Saskia,

First off. When did I complain that I cant make a living? I certainly can and delighted for a pay rise. As would you be if you got it.
If you dont like paying for taxis dont use them.

If we all pulled out of town on a Fri and Sat night what would use all do then. Struggle home locked and generally, Oh and the women of Dublin would be safe going home alright.

You would appreciate a pay rise having to deal with that crap. Just like a manager is paid well for dealing with crap from staff and customers. There is such a thing as a yearly gov increase.

Oh and by the way. tell me who increased the fares was is taxi man or the regulator.?

Oh and tell me this. It costs us money to transfer over to this new fare did you know that.

Also, I dont think you realise the daily let along yearly cost for keeping a taxi going on the road keeping our passengers safe. Theres always things needed to be bought for a cab. Most recently is the money we needs all to pay for the safety equip in the car.

If you feel we dont deserve the pay rise. dont use us. Because Your one necessary evil that Id rather not have in my cab. Get the bus simple as.Thats if you want to wait in the rain and take forever to get to a place.

Blah

Bless.

Ps think before you type

meathstevie

Saskia wrote: »

Annual increase? My sector hasnt had an increase in 3 years, I know others in different industries that havent had one in 5. So think before you type.

The bottom line is you're a despised sector and a necessary evil. You have increased your fares at a time when people are losing their jobs and yet you complain when you cant make a living.

Bless.

Do you work in a bank ? One of the compulsive gamblers who managed to screw up the world economy ?

AlmightyCushion

blahblah06 wrote: »

Reason: Saskia is a muppet

Banned.

oztots

blahblah06 wrote: »

Saskia,

First off. When did I complain that I cant make a living? I certainly can and delighted for a pay rise. As would you be if you got it.
If you dont like paying for taxis dont use them.

If we all pulled out of town on a Fri and Sat night what would use all do then. Struggle home locked and generally, Oh and the women of Dublin would be safe going home alright.

Also, I dont think you realise the daily let along yearly cost for keeping a taxi going on the road keeping our passengers safe. Theres always things needed to be bought for a cab. Most recently is the money we needs all to pay for the safety equip in the car.

If you feel we dont deserve the pay rise. dont use us. Because Your one necessary evil that Id rather not have in my cab. Get the bus simple as.Thats if you want to wait in the rain and take forever to get to a place.


Ps think before you type

Thought for a bit, decided that you calling us a necessary evil is like ibiza calling tourists that. you need us we need you, sometimes. Take a bus? a bus costs 1/10th of what your charging i cant see why people really need you.

Then again i can because busses dont go everywhere. But you take customers for granted.

And as far as not turning up some friday night. Thats your choice, you dont have to work that night. But theres money to be made so there you are. Dont pretend your doing everybodz a service by being there. Your there for money. Pure and simple.

SimpleSam06

blahblah06 wrote: »

If we all pulled out of town on a Fri and Sat night what would use all do then.

Probably take a taxi with one of the "new Irish" who would be only delighted if all the locals pulled out for the weekend.

CuLT

Get bus / learn to drive / cycle (new tax relief) / don't get hammered

Problem solved by CuLT. Next case.

Saskia

blahblah06 wrote: »

If we all pulled out of town on a Fri and Sat night what would use all do then. Struggle home locked and generally, Oh and the women of Dublin would be safe going home alright.


Ive highlighted in red for you what you need to work on in English. You speak English good yes?

You would appreciate a pay rise having to deal with that crap. Just like a manager is paid well for dealing with crap from staff and customers. There is such a thing as a yearly gov increase.


In all jobs? I dont think so. Many jobs have had wage freezes. And we're not all in Government jobs.




Oh and by the way. tell me who increased the fares was is taxi man or the regulator.?


More wonderful grammar. It was the regulator who, Im told, advertised that they were looking for feedback on the radio and press. Yet I didnt see or hear either.



Oh and tell me this. It costs us money to transfer over to this new fare did you know that.


You're moaning about changing over to a new system that will make you more money yes? Im just checking.



Also, I dont think you realise the daily let along yearly cost for keeping a taxi going on the road keeping our passengers safe. Theres always things needed to be bought for a cab. Most recently is the money we needs all to pay for the safety equip in the car.


Where did you go to school?




If you feel we dont deserve the pay rise. dont use us. Because Your one necessary evil that Id rather not have in my cab. Get the bus simple as.Thats if you want to wait in the rain and take forever to get to a place.


There are bus shelters, bus lanes and Nite Links. I think we'll be ok.


Ps think before you type


I did, and I would look forward to your reply except you're banned.


Bless

arybvtcw0eolkf

Saskia wrote: »

The bottom line is you're a despised sector and a necessary evil. You have increased your fares at a time when people are losing their jobs and yet you complain when you cant make a living.

Bless.

More ignorance.

THEY, the taxi driver's DIDN'T increase their fares, they've objected to the increase.

The Taxi Regulator had a look at the market conditions under which taxi driver's are operating, her office took the publics input into its (the T.R.'s) pricing campaign and based on they're (the T.R.'s office) findings decided that a fare increase was due.

As to the taxi industry being despised, yea fvck em' mostly.

Saskia

Mairt wrote: »

More ignorance.

THEY, the taxi driver's DIDN'T increase their fares, they've objected to the increase.

My peachy arse they did. You're trying to tell me they (you?) objected to making more money?! :pac:

i71jskz5xu42pb

Saskia wrote: »

My peachy arse they did. You're trying to tell me they (you?) objected to making more money?! :pac:

Don't you remember the protests? They had big go slows around town, placard wielding hoards outside Leinster House and you couldn't sit into a taxi without having the ear bored off you about how wrong it was.

No, wait, that was when the new licensing was being introduced.

Saskia

Zainab Muscular Starter wrote: »

Don't you remember the protests? They had big go slows around town, placard wielding hoards outside Leinster House and you couldn't sit into a taxi without having the ear bored off you about how wrong it was.

No, wait, that was when the new licensing was being introduced.

:pac: