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Two arrested in Obama assassination plot

  • 27-10-2008 9:55pm
    #1
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1027/uselection.html
    An official from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said police found the men in the Jackson, Tennessee area with a number of guns, including a sawed-off shotgun, in their car.

    'They wanted to go to a place where they could shoot as many non-Caucasian as they could,' the official said, noting that the men first planned to rob a gun dealer.

    'They also had a plot to assassinate Senator Obama.'

    It is not yet known if the threat was credible.

    It is not yet known if the threat was credible. :rolleyes:

    I thought he was going to Hawaii.

    is this just sensationalism


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 113 ✭✭nehpets5555


    Authorities have arrested two men for threatening to launch a "killing spree" in the state of Tennessee.

    The agency said the alleged attack also threatened to either shoot or decapitate 102 black people.

    Agents said they broke up plans by two "neo-Nazi skinheads" to rob a gun store and threaten a predominantly African-American high school, unsealed court records have revealed.

    The records did not specify which school was alleged to be threatened.

    US correspondent Ian Woods, in Washington, said the youth's alleged threat following the release of court records "does not make it a credible threat" to Mr Obama's life.

    Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14.

    The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

    Cavanaugh said that the men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as their final target.

    Woods said: "It is not necessarily a credible threat to the senator's life. But eight days before an election, clearly something like this will be taken very seriously."

    The US government disrupted an unrelated alleged plot during the Democratic Party Convention in Denver, Colorado, in September.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Came across that a few minutes ago.
    I guess the rednecks are coming out on the woods now!

    A sad state of affairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    I thought he was going to Hawaii.

    is this just sensationalism

    He has gone to Hawaii and has come back already


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    I'd be surprised if people didn't try to kill him tbh, it shows he's doing his job right.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Mark200 wrote: »
    He has gone to Hawaii and has come back already
    sorry I keep forgetting we are all supposed to see who the next president of the "free world" is and I took my off the ball for a week or two


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    He went to Hawaii because his grandmother that raised him most of his life, is seriously ill.

    He lost his mother at a young age and when he was away from home so he returned to Hawaii recently to make sure that he didn't lose the chance to say his goodbyes if (as some sadly expect) she won't last till election day.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    It is not yet known if the threat was credible. :rolleyes:

    Credible means did they have both intent and capability to carry out their objective. You can have all the intent you want, but if you're dolts, you may not have a chance. The Denver plot apparently involved a long-distance shot in an environment which was completely indoors. Yeah, that's likely to succeed.

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,249 ✭✭✭✭Kinetic^


    Mark200 wrote: »
    He has gone to Hawaii and has come back already

    He was afraid of Dog the Bounty Hunter so he legged it!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Given that there is enough wackos in America, (as elsewhere) taking into account its size, it would only take one of them to eventually to sadly succeed.
    100 might try, but where 99 might fail, with persistence and ignorance 1 might (hopefully not) do some damage and that's all it would take to set the states back into the era of the 1950's/1960's and the turmoil of the yesteryear.

    That would be a shame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭Agamemnon


    I seriously doubt that any assassination attempt on Obama will succeed. The greatest threat to any U.S. public figures comes from Al-Qaeda, a far more organised and dangerous group than these gobshites. If Bin Laden and pals can't get at American leaders, then there's no way these inbred, pointy-headed, KKK retards will succeed.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Agamemnon wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that any assassination attempt on Obama will succeed. The greatest threat to any U.S. public figures comes from Al-Qaeda, a far more organised and dangerous group than these gobshites. If Bin Laden and pals can't get at American leaders, then there's no way these inbred, pointy-headed, KKK retards will succeed.

    I hope and pray your right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭Tony Broke


    Agamemnon wrote: »
    I seriously doubt that any assassination attempt on Obama will succeed. The greatest threat to any U.S. public figures comes from Al-Qaeda, a far more organised and dangerous group than these gobshites. If Bin Laden and pals can't get at American leaders, then there's no way these inbred, pointy-headed, KKK retards will succeed.

    Agree, Bush would have been killed years ago if that was the case.

    Still it's one thing to take out a polititian, but to try to kill an additional 100+ people? I don't get it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Wait, they were going to rob a gun shop? They were going to rob a shop in which the owners and clientele likely to have and be trained in the use of guns?! The threat was deemed credible?! What the hell!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,893 ✭✭✭Davidius


    Somebody tried to kill Osama? Good on them I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Yawn, tbh.

    Now if it were those clever sniper bastards from 2003, that would be something to worry about. These guys didnt even fire a shot off which makes them sound like the Peoples Front of Judea.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yawn, tbh.

    Now if it were those clever sniper bastards from 2003, that would be something to worry about.

    Remind me.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    He talking about the guys who had the car with a hole in the boot, and the kid driving them around picking people off randomly? VA, WV, around there I think. Hmmm, this one: http://edition.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/09/sniper/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Trojan wrote: »
    He talking about the guys who had the car with a hole in the boot, and the kid driving them around picking people off randomly? VA, WV, around there I think. Hmmm, this one: http://edition.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/09/sniper/
    the very same.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    so basicly the story is

    'DumbFvck Red necks talk**** about killin Black people'

    media sensationalise story.

    something like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Fozzie Bear


    For feck sake. So Billy Ray and Cletus got themselves all liquored up and planned on a shootin that there, muslim, commie, nigga boy, Obama? What the hell have they and their inbred, six toe brethren been doing for the last 8 years? George W Bush is just asking to be taken out. Americans! Like women I'll never understand them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Irishcrx


    More bloody scare tactics from the US. Anything thats officially released as information by them I would immediatly regard as bull**** and haven a hidden agenda.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,662 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    These red necks are the type who don't get involved in the pre election stuff and wouldn't vote for a black president for love nor money. McCain will win that election


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yawn, tbh.

    Now if it were those clever sniper bastards from 2003, that would be something to worry about. These guys didnt even fire a shot off which makes them sound like the Peoples Front of Judea.

    No, that's more like the Judean peoples front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Jim Cavanaugh, special agent in charge of the Nashville field office for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, said the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14.

    The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

    I thought 88 and 18 were symbolic for the Neo Nazis, 88 = HH (Heil Hitler) and 18 = AH (Adolf Hitler). What is 14 symbolic of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Charco wrote: »
    I thought 88 and 18 were symbolic for the Neo Nazis, 88 = HH (Heil Hitler) and 18 = AH (Adolf Hitler). What is 14 symbolic of?

    14 is the amount of words in some symbolic neo-nazi / white supremist sentence or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Mark200 wrote: »
    14 is the amount of words in some symbolic neo-nazi / white supremist sentence or something like that.

    Probably was suppose to be 18 but they could only count to 14 :D

    Did you hear how they were going to try and assassinate Obama, they were going to drive at speed in a car and shoot out the windows at him LOL!!!!

    The US Secret Service would have made swiss chess out of them before they even got within range of the intended target.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    gandalf wrote: »
    Probably was suppose to be 18 but they could only count to 14 :D

    Did you hear how they were going to try and assassinate Obama, they were going to drive at speed in a car and shoot out the windows at him LOL!!!!

    The US Secret Service would have made swiss chess out of them before they even got within range of the intended target.
    or they would have just shot themselves in the head with an uzi...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Naw that doesn't cover people who are 8 mentally :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    ... What the hell have they and their inbred, six toe brethren been doing for the last 8 years? George W Bush is just asking to be taken out...

    The rednecks, nazi's, etc love Mr Bush and Cheney, they are gun lovers and NRA fans to the hilt (hell, they have interests in Haliburton and Blackwater alone). Why shoot yourself in the foot by taking out the people that keeps the laws on the books, that allows you to have all the weapons you want!

    (One example: the NRA prior to the Democratic convention had sent their own lobbist group to the same city to pressurise Obama and co into thinking their way, inviting them along to a "private function". Obama declined.)

    Long story short, the not so stupid (there's not many of them) gun loving rednecks, etc know whats coming when Obama can arrange it.
    Someone in the NRA will be quietly hoping one of these nutters eventually, sadly succeeds.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No, that's more like the Judean peoples front.
    But they didnt kill themselves :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Bob1970


    sure if he is elected we all know its a matter of time,the red necks wont be answering to a black man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Bob1970 wrote: »
    sure if he is elected we all know its a matter of time,the red necks wont be answering to a white man

    You mean black? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Was listening to the radio this morning when this was getting reported and they said these guys planned to kill 88 black people, then behead 14 more. Suppose beheading isnt too bad, could be worse, they could kill you...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Bob1970


    Mark200 wrote: »
    You mean black? :P


    aw sh!t man cheers for that-all hot n bothered from checking out the wimmens pics threads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭thelordofcheese


    Overheal wrote: »
    But they didnt kill themselves :confused:

    The Syrian Suicide Squad were the only ones to kill themselves.

    And i'm pretty sure these boys weren't syrian.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,528 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    Mark200 wrote: »
    14 is the amount of words in some symbolic neo-nazi / white supremist sentence or something like that.

    "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

    And the lesser used...

    "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    dsmythy wrote: »
    "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

    And the lesser used...

    "Because the beauty of the White Aryan woman must not perish from the earth".

    I thought it was:

    "We are all just some racist pricks who must be wiped out fairly sharpish."

    Am I wrong?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    The Syrian Suicide Squad were the only ones to kill themselves.

    I'm pretty sure it was the Judean People's Front crack suicide squad.

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    I'm pretty sure it was the Judean People's Front crack suicide squad.

    NTM
    Wrong!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    no he's right. the PFJ was the one brian joined. the JPF squad commits suicide.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭brendansmith


    Right you are


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