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Diluted drinks are they good or bad for you?

  • 27-10-2008 2:30am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭


    Seriously, I'm very unclear on the subject. Some claim to have no added colours of sweeteners or whatever, does this mean they're alright to use as part of 8 Glasses a day.

    I really don't like drinking water on it's own.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Pol Pot


    Pol Pot suggests not.
    They're prob not the worst in the world but you need to watch out for what they put into the drinks as an alternative to the item they've taken out.

    For example
    When they claim to be "sugar free" they've 99% of the time just banged in aspartame - check diet coke, or any "sugar free" cordial for example.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

    So apart from the calorie saving - the benefits are pretty much zero.

    Pol Pot is sure something similar will exist for all other claims with food stuff.

    Look to the hoolap smarties made over bringing back blue smarties. It took them 2 years to source natural blue colouring. And they ran an ad campagn on the back of this.
    Very few companies would have the drive and effort to go to this lengths to replace "un-natural" indegrients.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Pol Pot wrote: »
    Pol Pot suggests not.
    They're prob not the worst in the world but you need to watch out for what they put into the drinks as an alternative to the item they've taken out.

    For example
    When they claim to be "sugar free" they've 99% of the time just banged in aspartame - check diet coke, or any "sugar free" cordial for example.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

    So apart from the calorie saving - the benefits are pretty much zero.

    Pol Pot is sure something similar will exist for all other claims with food stuff.

    Look to the hoolap smarties made over bringing back blue smarties. It took them 2 years to source natural blue colouring. And they ran an ad campagn on the back of this.
    Very few companies would have the drive and effort to go to this lengths to replace "un-natural" indegrients.

    Speaking of yourself in the third person = weak.

    I've been drinking Robinson's sugar free for the last 3 or 4 years and I'm still standing.... If it was a choice between;

    -no water, but lots of fizzy drinks
    -some water, but not really that much
    -a large amount of water w/ Robinson's sugar free

    I know which I'd choose!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭randomer


    Pol Pot wrote: »
    Pol Pot suggests not.
    They're prob not the worst in the world but you need to watch out for what they put into the drinks as an alternative to the item they've taken out.

    For example
    When they claim to be "sugar free" they've 99% of the time just banged in aspartame - check diet coke, or any "sugar free" cordial for example.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

    So apart from the calorie saving - the benefits are pretty much zero.

    Pol Pot is sure something similar will exist for all other claims with food stuff.

    Look to the hoolap smarties made over bringing back blue smarties. It took them 2 years to source natural blue colouring. And they ran an ad campagn on the back of this.
    Very few companies would have the drive and effort to go to this lengths to replace "un-natural" indegrients.

    Only The Rock and Barack Obama are allowed to refer to themself in the third person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭Al_Fernz


    Hanley wrote: »
    Speaking of yourself in the third person = weak

    +1

    On topic. I'm starting to think about this aspartame stuff. There is a lot of it in the whey I use and the literature/debates on the subject has made me unsure about the long term effects of excessive consumption.

    I'm thinking about just buying a huge tub of unflavored whey for my next batch.

    I also found this article on the aspartame debate:
    http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/329/7469/755


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Pol Pot


    Hanley wrote: »

    I've been drinking Robinson's sugar free for the last 3 or 4 years and I'm still standing....
    fair play to you!!
    You are blessed with seriously strong gene's.:rolleyes:
    a guy Pol Pot played ball with took heroin for 10 years and is still knocking about so - It's hardly a great argument.

    Hanley wrote: »

    If it was a choice between;

    -no water, but lots of fizzy drinks
    -some water, but not really that much
    -a large amount of water w/ Robinson's sugar free

    I know which I'd choose!

    The range of choices you provide are not the entire list of potential options. Given those choices Pol Pot would indeed choose the Robinsons option.
    There is the option of just chug it down. chill your water cos (imo) it's a lot more refreshing then.
    Or drink tea,,,there is a huge range of delicious flavoured teas out there.
    That can contribute to the water consumption of a person.

    It was never claimed that fruit cordial drinks you kill (as your "I'm still standing " argument would imply.) The point was just be aware what other ingredients were added. simple as.
    Pol Pot doesn't think aspartame is good for you , never said it was fatal.

    Hanley wrote: »
    Speaking of yourself in the third person = weak.
    why? what bearing has it on your existence that pol pot expresses himself like this? Or is it merely that you , hanley, are one of those empty vessels that make most sound (to paraphrase the old saying).
    randomer wrote: »
    Only The Rock and Barack Obama are allowed to refer to themself in the third person.
    why?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    Pol Pot wrote: »
    why? what bearing has it on your existence that pol pot expresses himself like this? Or is it merely that you , hanley, are one of those empty vessels that make most sound (to paraphrase the old saying).

    lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Come now, there's no need for this arguing. We are all siblings in iron, as brother number one might say?

    (however I'm not sure that title is the sort one should model oneself on).


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,588 Mod ✭✭✭✭BossArky


    *holds ROFLcopter at safe distance to observe the melee bound to ensue*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Pol Pot


    Come now, there's no need for this arguing. We are all siblings in iron,
    true
    as brother number one might say?
    a well read man!
    it's nice to know Pol Pot isn't the only one knocking about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    BossArky wrote: »
    *holds ROFLcopter at safe distance to observe the melee bound to ensue*

    Not tonight... I'm not in the mood to be banned :D:D

    A pseudo-intellectual argument is a waste of time when I've the Auditing Practice Boards Ethical Standards 1-5 to be reading. Maybe if it was something other than a verbal sparring match with the winner being the one who can construct their sentences so that the responder has no loopholes or un-conditioned statements to pick apart then I would play. But alas, it's not!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    Hanley wrote: »
    A pseudo-intellectual argument is a waste of time when I've the Auditing Practice Boards Ethical Standards 1-5 to be reading.

    Wait until you've to go through the ISA's:D;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 Pol Pot


    Hanley wrote: »
    Not tonight... I'm not in the mood to be banned :D:D

    A pseudo-intellectual argument is a waste of time when I've the Auditing Practice Boards Ethical Standards 1-5 to be reading. Maybe if it was something other than a verbal sparring match with the winner being the one who can construct their sentences so that the responder has no loopholes or un-conditioned statements to pick apart then I would play. But alas, it's not!!

    alas. till next time.
    Tally ho!! *


    * with that Pol pot rides into the sunset upon his trusty moral high horse


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Pol Pot wrote: »
    Pol Pot.....
    zzz

    Fail.


    Pighead does it better. He's actually funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Unless your diet and body were actually 100% honed to a fine point worrying about sugar free fruit drinks isn't exactly going to make or break you - there are probably dozens of other things in your daily diet infinitely worse by comparison that you don't even stop to think about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Seriously, I'm very unclear on the subject. Some claim to have no added colours of sweeteners or whatever, does this mean they're alright to use as part of 8 Glasses a day
    The real recommendation was for ingesting 8 glasses worth of water a day in your diet. This is not necessarily glasses of pure water. Somebody read that study/finding and wrongly concluded you need 8 glasses of water. Most food you eat already contains water. e.g. if you ate a load of watermelons you might get all your liquid needs from them.

    Some people drink loads of milk, in which case they would get water from that.

    I drink dilutable drinks since otherwise I would not take in as much water. If you were to boil off the water from them it would reduce to a small amount of sugars and flavouring, just like eating a few hard orange sweets with a pint of water really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    Hanley wrote: »
    Speaking of yourself in the third person = weak.

    Thanks you saved Gillo the job. Yeah, it's immature and annoying.

    My OP asked the dentist a while back and his recommendation was Robinsons Tooth Kid. Personally I don't like water by itself so find putting a bit of juice in get's me drinking a lot more of it, it's the lesser of two evils the way I see it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭Estella


    Marks and Spencer do a great tasting Mexican lime cordial, with all natural ingredients, tis lovely with a bit of sparkling mineral water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Estella wrote: »
    Marks and Spencer do a great tasting Mexican lime cordial, with all natural ingredients, tis lovely with a bit of sparkling mineral water.
    Most are a mix of flavouring, sugar/sweetener and citric acid.

    You can get pure citric acid cheap in Asian stores for making sweet & sour dishes, the same stuff is on those sour fizzy sweets.

    Lemon/lime works well since the flavour goes a long way, and already has citric acid so might not need any added. In winter I have pints of hot water with lemon & honey.


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